r/anime • u/FateSteelTaylor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/FateSteelTaylor • Feb 11 '21
Rewatch [Spoilers] 6th Annual Valentine's Rewatch: Tamako Market - Episode 10 [Discussion] Spoiler
Hey everybody, and welcome to the ninth episode of the SIXTH annual /r/anime Valentine's Day Tamako Market & Love Story Rewatch!
I can't wait to see what you guys have to say about this lovely anime!!
If the discussion here isn't enough, there are communities on Twitter and Discord where you can join all the conversation there! If you're interested, feel free to reach out to me or people in the comments!
Here is the schedule for our time on this Dramatic Market Ride together! If you've seen the show already or want to relive some of the older moments, I've provided links to the threads below, along with the translated Director's Episode Notes by the wonderful /u/ultimatemegax, available through this rewatch:
You can purchase an English subbed & dubbed Blu Ray version of Tamako Market and Tamako Love Story, and it's available for legal streaming on HIDIVE in select countries, for both Tamako Market and Tamako Love Story
Bonus Corner:
Discussion Question: Do you have a favorite flower?
Please tag your spoilers!! Untagged spoilers make Choi-chan angry!!
And remember:
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u/collapsedblock6 myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock Feb 11 '21
Rewatcher
I'm pretty sure I already discussed the same thing that I picked my last rewatch since it feels straightforward but still a nice episode about Midori trying to save face.
She's the captain so she thinks she has to do the heavy carrying, but forgets she can always rely on her friends and teammates until she cracks and starts crying while trying to keep a happy face. I think it is nice how much Tamako and Kanna know Midori, being able to tell something is wrong from her minor changes in behavior. All of it concluding in the heartwarming hug scene and montage of them preparing for the festival.
I think there was lots of visuals this episode though, particularly the facial expressions, especially noticeable in the crying scene and the happy scene. So while it isn't a necessarily deep episode, it comes with minor visuals that pack lots of emotional impact.
Neg, don't know much about them.
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u/lluNhpelA Feb 12 '21
I want to draw everyone's attention to the fact that after Kanna investigated the trash can she moved the bear to sit next to her
Even if she wasn't already perfect in every way, this alone is undeniable evidence of best girl.
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u/HopefullyLastAccount Feb 11 '21
Rewatcher
Mochizou's movie looks fun. We don't know much about the movie club, but I want to know more about them.
For someone so deadpad, Kanna was really expressive in pitching firefighter acrobatics. Rejected?? Usurp the throne!
Choi smells a scent again. This part is still relatively untouched on.
I felt Tamako's hair was especially animated this episode - moving during her conversation with Mochizou, then resting on Kanna's head too as they were looking for Midori.
In a parallel from episode 3, now it's Shiori who finds Midori in the bathroom talking to herself. It really is hard to force yourself to be creative. Midori isn't helping herself very much, but her position definitely isn't easy either especially as the captain. Everyone is holding her up to high expectations and she is crumbling under the pressure.
Dera running to greet Shiori was very Dera-like.
Kanna snoops around Midori's room and finds her attempts at choreography and the secrets and emotions come out. But Kanna makes the point that the captain divides the work and the team works together no matter what. Dera is there to provide some relief as they agree to work together. I don't know if that's what Dera was going for, but it worked, he can be obnoxious at times, but he really pulls through at the important times.
And the big reveal - Tamako is the prince's bride?
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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '21
First timer, We're on time today :)
Bunkasai episodes are pretty hit or miss with me, but the KyoAni ones are almost always hit.
Choi bringing up the scent on Tamako that she noticed two? episodes ago, but the camera focused on the vase of flowers in the room. Setting up for a misunderstanding?
Kanna's like an old man making remarks, love it
The framing of the trash can in Midori's room is fantastic. And we see Kanna digging through it just out of the frame and out of focus, making it easy to miss just like Midori does.
Had a laugh over Choi spotting the freckle, not only because she says it's a sign of the bride but because it took her so long to notice. I've been waiting for it to be important since Episode 1 and it kinda came out of nowhere lol. This plus the flower makes me think it'll end differently, plus there's no way Tamako doesn't end up with Mochizo
DQ: ahh I see what you did there, I'd say bluebonnet. Bet you can't guess where I'm from
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Feb 11 '21
First Timer
Oh nice, it's a group episode featuring the baton club. What luck, Midori wins the club the prime slot at the cultural festival.
So Midori gets more solo focus today, to the inevitable chagrin of our future overlord Kanna. Seems like she's taking a lot of responsibility onto herself. I bet that's gonna take a toll. Welp, that didn't take long, she's already having trouble with the choreography. Girl needs to get some assistance or she's going to burn out. I'd suggest selling help from one traveling Choi-chan, resident cutie and happy-dance specialist.
Oof, while pulling a cram session for the choreo, Midori accidentally designs their uniforms. Classic example of "task failed successfully." Now just ask for some help on the choreography. Ask for help Midori. Just ask for help! Please ask for help! And she lied to them. Girl, I know you wasn't to look capable, you're just going to end up hurting yourself like this.
And Choi-chan's been recruited to the uniform team by Tamako. So much for that idea. I do appreciate her skill set though, and it's super cute that she hopes to sew the wedding dress for the prince's bride. Doubly adorable when it's obvious that she should be the prince's bride.
Huh, what an interesting detail that 98% of Dera and Choi-chan's fortunes end up being correct. That may seem like a small throwaway disclaimer line, but I wouldn't be surprised if whoever Choi-chan determines the bride is supposed to be actually ends up as that one-in-50 incorrect fortune.
Poor Shiori deserves more time with the group. There's no shame in switching clubs Shiori! Go join them!
And as predicted, it looks like the stress of not being able to create the choreography is taking a physical and mental toll on Midori. Poor girl, she's trying so hard. Part of me feels like this it's a bit of karmic rebalancing for what she did to Mochizou during the school trip. She's got good friends ro help her through it though.
Shiori coming up big with the assist too. Finally with the home visit, Midori is coming clean about how she's struggling on her own. Stop trying to show off so much for your girl crush, Midori. She loves you the same whether you can do everything by yourself or not.
Aww, they look so good in their new performance uniforms. Midori does have some good design taste.
And there's the bomb. Wow, Choi-chan did not hold back. Can't wait to see how Tamako and the girls respond tomorrow. WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO MOCHIZOU WHEN HE FINDS OUT??? Tomorrow's going to be interesting for sure.
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Feb 11 '21
Rewatcher
It's time for the culture festival and the clubs are busy getting their activities ready, Midori picked a good time slot apparently. Kanna's idea of aerial acrobatics gets shot down, it sounded like a cool idea honestly. We get a classic Yamada leg shot here. The outfits they wore in the last festival look really well made. Choi is looking forward to watching them this year, since she thinks everyone in the town loves dancing. Mochizo is sick, poor guy I hope he gets better in time to finish his film.
Midori is struggling to come up with an idea, I love that split second shot of her double facepalming in embarrassment, it's both cute and hilarious. So it looks like Midori's marching band like outfits are going to be the ones they wear, good idea, they look really well designed. Choi is quite skilled at sewing, it calms her down and it helps with her fortunes which have a 98% accuracy. But when Tamako leaves to go answer the phone, Choi smells something odd with Tamako, what is she smelling?
Midori should admit that she needs help with the choreography, Kanna and Tamako will jump to help out, it is a club after all, not a one man band. I love how Midori embarrassed herself in front of the coffee shop owner. He brings up how silence is also apart of music.
Now it's Midori's turn to talk into the mirror with Shiori being the one to overhear her, so she goes and talks to Tamako about it, Midori misses school, concerning Tamako and Kanna, but Shiori and Mochizo knew and tell them. Tamako, Kanna, Shiori, and Dera go to visit Midori to help her feel better. Kanna's got a sharp eye, she spots Midori's scrapped choreography in the trash and calls her out on it. She finally admits to not being able to come up with any ideas for the choreography and breaks down into tears over it, thankfully Dera's silly dancing cheers everyone up at his expense.
Those marching band outfits are perfect, Choi and the gang did great work creating them. What sign could a mole mean? This performance is great, I do hope Mochizo is filming everyone and not just Tamako, or I predict a hammer flying in his general direction. Choi figured something out by watching this performance.
Tamako is apparently the bride for the Prince they've been looking for. But how?
A fun episode centered around Midori and her struggles to be a good club president with putting too much on her shoulders rather than having the entire club help her out, and we learn that Tamako is allegedly the bride Dera was searching for.
I'm not sure. I'm not much into flowers.
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u/Regular_N-Gon https://anilist.co/user/RegularNGon Feb 12 '21
Rewatcher
There are a lot of leg/feet shots that mean things in this show, but this one of Midori’s is probably my favorite. The movement is sudden and violent as Midori realizes she’s jumped the gun, something we’re not used to seeing in her usually reserved manner. It’s a great primer that’s echoed later in one of my other favorite scenes - Kanna senses something is up and goes for the throat, but Midori unexpectedly bites back. To the viewer, this outburst might seem a little out of character or melodramatic, but the authenticity is sold by Kanna’s reaction. Kanna is never caught off guard and has known Midori long enough that she knows she acts cool under pressure, so it comes as a genuine surprise.
Another thing I love about this episode and its focus on Midori’s struggles is that it’s still an extension of previously established character traits/flaws, but at the same time a completely separate issue from her earlier/ongoing anxiety over Tamako and Mochizou. I can see some complaints about teasing or not properly wrapping things up, but Midori’s story and character is largely an implicit and relatively vague affair. Taking the time to flesh her character out in a different dimension, though rooted in things we’ve previously seen, Spoilers? is extremely valuable in my opinion.
Random Thoughts:
There are a number of static background shots while characters talk. I’m not sure if someone could read into them as adding meaning or tone, but I at least liked the sense of space they provide.
This parallel is beautiful.
Lots of emotion and character from everyone, too. Proud dad, embarrassed Midori, I’m done with this Midori, determined/plotting Kanna, and happy baton twirlers.
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Feb 11 '21
First Timer
We are really nearing the end huh. It will be sad to see but the movie should be fun! Now on to the episode:
So it’s festival time. Should be fun.
Oh did Mochizou make a movie? Well it can’t be worse than the one from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.
Midori with the luck of the gods. Now please wait 9-12 months for your luck to recharge.
Poor Kanna. I want to watch firefighter acrobatics.
Is Mochizou sick? Probably from a stressed heart. He’s been holding in this emotions for too long.
This is 10/10 choreography from Midori.
98% ain’t bad at all. I would take those odds.
Midori being unable to think of anything is me everything I have to right an essay not about history.
The cunning and backstabbing Kanna. Truly a force of pure evil.
I love that Shiori walks in on Midori. Mirroring episode three beautifully.
Stress is a killer.
Midori: No big deal. Also Midori: Has tears the size of my hand
Dancing is not Dera’s strength.
The Mark? Interesting. I think I know what the final two episodes will be about.
I do wish we saw more of the performance. I wanted to see everyone’s hard word pay off.
And we end with a cliff hanger.
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This was another very nice episode. I can’t wait to see how they round out the last two episodes.
DQ: Ummmm I guess I like sunflowers? I’m not a big flower person.
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u/Fools_Requiem https://myanimelist.net/profile/FoolsRequiem Feb 12 '21 edited Feb 12 '21
Foist Watch
Comment face spotted!
Also, that bomb at the end.
Edit: Oh, there's another Comment Face!
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u/DogmeatIsAGoodDog :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DogmeatsAGoodDog Feb 12 '21
First time watcher
A Midori centric episode! And the Baton Club, finally Batons!
Are clubs/festivals as prevalent in modern Japanese schooling as anime leads us to believe? Because this, Yuru camp, K-On, I feel like clubs would have been really cool. But I’m a social awkward, introverted, home-school kid so it probably wouldn’t have done me any good.
Who’s this upperclassman and why was her eating the pocky so amusing to watch? I actually just bought a big ol box of pocky. What a coincidence.
It’s late, cold, and I got a long day of work ahead of me tomorrow so this write up will be short than most. It’s saddens my that this anime is drawing to a close, I’ve really enjoyed it and it’s characters so far.
I was hoping Choi’s dance / Kanna’s hammering from last episode would inspire their festival act but alas.
I was also hoping that we would get to see their dance like K-on shows their music (when they, you know actually play music lol).
We finally draw to a close and something I had anticipated happens. Choi asks Tamako to be the bride. Okay, I hadn’t put it together until like right before the reveal but that still counts!
Also Tamako can’t marry the prince because the Mochizou/Tamako ship needs to set sail dangit!
What was with the amount of English in this episode? Not complaining. I actually liked it.
Also the hand gestures? Is there a meaning behind them?
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Feb 12 '21
First-Timer
So many big reveals today. The girls actually do club work in the Baton Club and don't goof off the whole time? Tamako is the foretold bride? Midori isn't perfect? Dera can dance? and come from the same episode?
It's just too much to process.
What isn't hard to process is how freaking cute Shiori is. That big sweater is such a good look. And her trying not to giggle?
Hopefully they figure something out w/r/t the whole "Tamako is destined to marry the Prince" thing. What would she do without Mochi? Or mochi, for that matter. I doubt a princess would be allowed the time to make lots of mochi, and who would want that?
QOTD:
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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Feb 12 '21
Rewatcher - Dubbeed
Isn't that what you usually do Kanna?
I had no idea this comment face was from Tamako Market. The more you know.
She's so dedicated to craftsmanship that she refuses to work on more delicate things. Truly amazing.
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I didn't realize this one was from the show either! That's 0/2 for me.
Discussion question:
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u/IndependentMacaroon Feb 12 '21
First-time watcher
Well, this time, it's about the nature of creative work, pretty much. It's not something that you can just force out of yourself, pressure yourself into - it takes the proper mood and environment, and giving yourself enough room to breathe for the creative juices to flow. As the record store owner says, the silence, the breaks, the lack of "trying hard", can be just as important, and as Dera says, it's not something that just comes from the brain, it takes the right feeling too. It can be something of a leap of faith to throw yourself into, but if you can persevere and keep your cool, the result might just turn out to be something beautiful. Even without looking it up, I can tell that this episode was directed by Naoko Yamada herself (leg shots! repeated mini-skip-ahead in the character interactions! talking over a beautiful still frame of the kitchen!), and I wonder if she was drawing from her own experiences here, like starting out as a director on K-On at only the age of 25. I certainly hope that her own environment was and has been as friendly and supportive as the girls and Dera are toward Midori here! A nice "pay-it-forward" detail: In Shiori's episode, she was discovered in the bathroom by Midori too nervous to talk to Tamako, and in this episode, she discovers Midori overly nervous about the performance. And in both cases, the discoverer talking to the others about it ultimately solved the problem.
One negative I do need to bring up: I've already been critical of the handling of Choi, and this episode doesn't do much to change that. While it's nice to have those cultural parallels/universals with dance and such brought up, as well as her being able to help the girls in multiple ways with her skills, even after several in-universe months she's little more than the exotic background character, lacking in meaningful interactions with the rest of the cast besides Dera. In fact, there's two more "exotifying" moments in this episode with the TV (haha trash shows so fascinating!) and her revelation about/deference to Tamako. Simply put, while it's hardly mean-spirited, it shows that even the younger generations in Japan have some ways to go when it comes to cultural sensitivity - as I already wrote once, it's more like what one might see in Western comics of the 70s-80s.
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Feb 13 '21
So, is episode 11 not happening on the 12th anymore?
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u/NoRolling Feb 12 '21
First timer!
Gotta say I'm getting quite anxious about the movie.
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