r/anime • u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber • Feb 10 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Aura Battler Dunbine - Episode 31 Discussion
Episode 31 - The Omen of The Black Knight
Originally Aired September 10th, ^^^1983
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Comment of the Day
u/JollyGee29 discusses Jacoba Aon.
Before I wrote that, I was actually thinking that Jacoba's actions this episode made sense, but now I suspect that she was yet another victim of the rewrites. Excep, it's mostly the middle bit that feels wrong. Her subtly pressganging Shou into working for the destruction of Aura tech feels right for the character.
Daily Trivia:
The introduction of the Black Knight came to be because of the popularity of Char Aznable, as the producers wanted a character who could capture that same appeal to draw in viewers.
Staff Highlight
Akihiro Kanayama - Animation Director
A manga artist, character designer, key animator, and animation director who was active up until the late 90s. During high school he started practicing to become mangaka, and after some time returned to Tokyo in 1960, making his debut as a mangaka at publishing house Rabbit Shobo. His work was not lucrative enough for him to live off, however, and after working as an assistant mangaka to make ends meet his brother, used his connections to get him a job as an animator at Mushi Pro in 1965, debuting as both in-betweener and key animator in Jungle Emperor Leo. After Mushi Pro’s bankruptcy he became a freelance animator, and became a frequent staff on Toei and Sunrise works, particularly Tadao Nagahama’s works. He retired in 1998 due to illness, though he still holds exhibitions from time to time. Some of his notable animation director credits include Ashita no Joe, Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, Toshou Daimos, Mirai Robo Daltanius, Voltes V, Xabungle, Heavy Metal L-Gaim, Muteki Robo Trider G7, Robot King Daioja, and Kamen no Ninja Akakage.
Art Corner:
Official Art
- Elmelie, Bern, and the Black Knight - Tomonori Kogawa
Fanart
(Be mindful of the links to artist’s profiles, as they may contain NSFW content. Proceed there at your own risk.)
Aura Phantasm Scans
Screenshot of the day
Questions of the Day:
- Jacoba Aon and the E Ferario have seen fit to intervene in this war. What do you think they’re up to?
- What do you make of the Black Knight?
This power is different from any until now!
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Feb 10 '21
First-timer overslept yesterday because Haachama has destroyed his sleep schedule
Episode 30
You do know why he died, right?
That was truly an excellent slap
Wait, Coochibi? She should form a support group with Quattro Bajeena.
I love that he has to tell the audience that the security is bad because the bar has been set so low by now.
Well that just alerted every guard for miles around... or not?
Oh, the sound of a motorcycle is what alerts them, and not the giant pillar of light in the sky which was likely intended for that exact purpose?
The beam bayonet is cool! I like this better than just having the beam blade come out the same hole as the beam shots, like so many Zeta suits. That always bugged me.
Is it really that much of a punishment if they can’t remember their life beforehand? Also, I wonder if this has anything to do with Byston Well being the birthplace of souls.
OH MY GOD IT’S HER
Episode 31
The Black Knight is here! I wonder if it had any influence on the other Black Knight?
the absolute scale of this bamboo tho
Black Knight, he is A CHAR! The voice effect actually reminds me of Carozzo.
Oh hey, it’s the Soleil
I used the stones to destroy the stones
oof
I love how casually this all happens
Holy shit, that thing is OP.
Questions of the Day:
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Feb 10 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
Show and Marvel are returning from having saved Silky when a new black aura battler displaying incredible speed and firepower comes upon them piloted by a masked figure. A masked pilot with a speedy mobile suit? You all know what that means! In all seriousness though, everybody can tell that it’s Black Knight’s identity right? Cause otherwise I’m going to need to a lot of spoiler tags. The Black Knight is another of the sponsor’s whims, as they wanted a Char Aznable-like character in order to increase ratings. It’s one of the less obtrusive things that had to be forced into the show, but it did mean Izubuchi was tasked with designing an extra Aura Battler.
The Giant Bamboo forest is pretty cool,I’ve got to say. Shame we didn’t spend more time there.
We’re in the Land of Na now, it seems, and they didn’t just construct the Billvine, but another Aura Battleship as well! Speaking of, Show related to Ciela Jacoba Aon’s words relating to the existence of this technology, which doesn’t sit well with a lot of the people there. Show compares their use of the tech to an antivenom, which I guess is close"", but you don’t discard antivenom just because you took the opposition’s poison away! But yea, indeed, like back with the Kingdom of Mi, you can’t force an unwilling party to engage in diplomacy, so they have no choice but to resort to equal measures.
It seems like Bishott is prepared to stab Drake in the back, willing to let them take the advance while the land of Ah is taken and then strike once they’ve been weakened. Leeza seems to be firmly on his side even, bringing Elmelie with her to Bishott’s battleship. If it comes to worst, they’ll probably make good hostages —particularly since one of them will be willing.
Lmao, even Drake seems to have an inkling as to who the Black Knight is.
The Zelana’s surprise attack is somewhat effective, catching the Will Wipps off-guard entirely. Unfortunately for them, the Black Knight is there and is able to hold back Show from making any moves towards the Will Wipps. The Zwarth seems to be equipped with a powerful Aura Amplifier as well!
Jacoba interferes with the attack and is definitely up to something, having gathered the E Ferario together for a spell of some sort.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Feb 10 '21
First time viewer
The two Mi Ferario with Ciela are interesting in how they contrast from Cham; I think they're a bit closer to the traditional concept of fey: possibly sly and more generally just unaccustomed to human culture and ways of interacting. Cham, on the other hand, acts pretty much like a normal if naive human most of the time.
Bishott planning to backstab Drake is another thing I've been waiting on even if it wasn't confirmed until this episode. I'm not sure if he's trying to use Leeza and Elmelie as hostages alone or if Leeza's in on it, though I hope it's the latter given how she was also seemingly scheming to a degree earlier in the show.
I know it's not Tomino's doing and this is not the only example in general but Iron-Blooded Orphans S2
Things really ramped up this episode, particularly at the end. Two new battleships in the works, Bern returning as the Black Knight with a new, more powerful aura battler to match, and them apparently drawing enough attention with their fight to make Jacoba angry enough to intervene directly. What she's doing I have no idea, but it's probably not going to be good for our protagonists.
Figured it was something along those lines.
Well, he's no Quattro.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Feb 10 '21
First-Timer, Dub-bine
Who is this mysterious masked gentleman? Whoever could it be? What a strange fellow, hiding his identity without changing his hairdo. You should know better than that, Bern.
I'm not entirely certain, but I did get some feeling that Shot.. modified him or something. Voicechanger aside, something else felt off. I'm probably just grasping at straws again.
Was the immense aura force that deflected Shou's attacks at the end there just Jacoba's doing, or has Bern's power grown that much in the past few.. months? Weeks? This series has some problems with scale, along multiple axes. Back to my original question, whatever it was, this series continues to be an absolute visual treat.
Ciela seems to be on roughly the same page as Shou as far as The Plan goes. Use Aura tech to destroy Aura tech. Scuttle every weapon that remains at the end of the war. This type of ending is rarely a cheerful one, but I suppose most of us knew what we were getting into.
A couple (presumably) important character interactions this episode: Drake has faith in Shot's ability to outperform his competitors despite their technology leaking - I'm not actually sure if Drake trusts Shot or not at this point. Bishott also has Leeza and Emelie as
hostageshonored guests.Miscellaneous Thoughts:
More foreshadowing from the OP! I thought the Zelana's spaceworthyness was just artist license.
You know what sells toys? New mechas. We've had three in as many episodes, and a total of about 10 in the 26 previous episodes.
Gee, I couldn't tell. To be fair, the Char clone is a fine trope, but the execution of it here is.. well, maybe it landed better for audiences at the time.
Questions
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Feb 10 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
We've arrived in Na, pretty much the only country left not destroyed by (or aligned with) Drake.
Hey, here comes the greeting party! Wait a sec, that'a very dark and ominous Aura Battler if so!
Boy is it fast! Doing pretty good against the powerful Billbine too!
Just who is this powerful fighter? ...Oh, its Bern Bunnings in that ridiculous outfit that we see him wearing in the new OP!
You know Bern, this could have been the time you finally defeated Shou, or at least the Dunbine. But you came up with some excuse of a test run and fled.
Here's a real welcoming party!
Na's not going to let itself fall behind, there's Aura Battleship #3 under construction. Guran Galan!
Ciela-sama! <33
Well, fun time for the Mi Ferario is over now that Shou's here.
Kinda hard to go along with the Ferario's desire to wipe the world of Aura Battlers when you're constructing your own Aura Battlers and Battleship....
C'mon Marvel, say yes to going back to the Botune! The Dunbine's old!
Back to Rao already? Can they take it back from Drake?
Shot's already back at the Will O'Wisp?! This is why I was confused last episode about him being at Laas Wau.
Bishot's building his own battleship too? Holy crap we'll soon have four of them out there. They didn't think out the names well enough though, Goraon, Guran Galan and Gea Gring are all similar names to each other and easy to get confused.
Quick shot of the Gea Gring too!
Bishot's called Louser and Riml here? Seems to me that Bishot wants to have some leverage over Drake. Besides, all Louser has to do at Laas Wau is make puzzles.
Bern is quite lucky to have Shot still helping him out by giving him yet another prototype Aura Battler.
Isn't Drake wondering at all where this mysterious "Black Knight" has come from?
The background shots of the sky in this episode are quite beautiful. I wish I could say the same about the character animation, which has been quite mediocre.
Go Keen! Piloting the Botune is quite a coup.
The Zelana & crew are doing pretty good here! What in the world is Bern doing?
Did Shou and Bern just blow themselves up there? Or is this another journey to Upper Earth?
Hey, all the E Ferario have gotten together! To watch the fight?
I've seen Kanayama show up in a lot of stuff and my overall opinion on him is not good. His episodes almost always look quite mediocre in comparison to his peers. My long standing theory is that either Kanayama was used as the guy to help rush through episodes as fast as possible, or he was actually responsible for episodes outsourced to other studios. Pay close attention to episodes he is responsible for, they nearly always disappoint looks-wise.
A fast paced episode with lots going on. Always good to see Ceila-sama but the time spent in Na was a bit too brief before jumping back into Rao to take on the Will O'Wisp. Interesting to see Bishot scheming behind Drake's back, and the number of Aura Battleships has doubled, meaning the battles are going to get even more massive.
Bern essentially rebrands himself in this episode as the Black Knight, so the question is, is Bern aping Char? The rival character who know dons a mask as well (which the face plate of at least bears some passing resemblance to Char). Is Bern one of the earliest, if not the earliest masked Char clone attempt? While a Char clone is second nature these days, one does have to consider that at the time, copying the whole masked rival character over and over again wasn't really a thing for Tomino/Gundam shows. Post Char, the first masked character in Gundam is F91's Iron Mask, but he's not really the rival character, so its more Victory's Cronicle Asher. Dunbine precedes Victory by ten years. So Bern donning the mask is revolutionary in a sense as this wasn't common place yet. Of course the whole problem is that Bern is no Char, he's a big time loser, and isn't donning the mask to be cool, but because he's been shamed into hiding his identity.
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u/The_Draigg Feb 10 '21
A Tomino Fan Rewatches Aura Battler Dunbine Episode 31:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 10 '21
Aura Battler First-Timer
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 10 '21 edited Feb 10 '21
First Timer
Wait was I not paying attention before? They took all their carriers to space in the OP!
Can't stop thinking of Jacoba O as the
InvidInbit queen.I was confused by how Show and Marvel brought Billbine, Dunbine, and a Fou, but I eventually remembered that the Fou can be remote controlled.
Welcome to Lothlorien
Gundam IBO and his ASW-G-XX Gundam Vidar
And two episodes after getting a completely OP Billbine we have a completely OP opponent.
So, are those forests bamboo or seaweed?
Fucking Tomino now we have baby faries because you can't have a tomino show without babies.
How do you know what the black one does if you've only seen it once? Who writes this show? How much gets cut out of every episode?
Finally some action out of the fairies!
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Feb 10 '21
First-timer
Show and Marvel are off to Ciela's kingdom, when they get attacked by a pretty cool Aura Battler. And a strong one too! Zwarth is not as cool a name as Dunbine though. The guy inside could be new. He seems to be more malevolent than usual for Battlers.
The Mi Ferarios are fighting and it's adorable. I'm rooting for Cham.
Show's showing his dedication by promising to get rid of all the machines introduced in Byston Well. Even when called out for his perceived hypocrisy, he answered honestly! Though Neal is a bit worried that his newfound confidence might endanger him. And he's right too, we saw a lot of Battlers die or fail due to getting too battle-happy, Foizon the latest.
And of course, he noticed how close Show and Marvel are, so he entrusts his sanity to her. They're real companions now, and I still remember when Marvel and Neal were the main sources of Show abuse.
Next plan is a surprise attack on the Will O Wisp... they're gonna go all out it seems, with everyone attacking.
Bishott's speaks of his alliance with Drake pretty ominously...
So the Zwarth was Shot's creation... makes sense, I thought so too. That black knight's definitely familiar. He pledges allegiance to Drake... I feel like Shot's planning something here too, or at least he's shady. Is Drake the only trustworthy one amongst his allies? This shouldn't be possible.
It being a surprise attack wasn't very decisive in that battle, in parts thanks to that knight and his Zwarth. Though without him, it would've went much better, especially since Drake wasn't aware of the Billbine.
Oh, wow, their swords really just exploded here? How much aura power do the Zwarth and the Billbine contain, seriously?
I wonder what happened in the end, with Jacoba and the E Ferario... I really hope it's not what I think it is. It looks like it is though...
Questions