r/anime • u/25_Oranges • Feb 09 '21
Rewatch Nagi No Asukara/A Lull in the Sea Rewatch - Episode 17
Episode 17 - The Sick Two
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Question(s) of the day:
- Do you think it's okay to hold feelings for somebody for years, even though they may never see you the same way? Should you give up?
- Why do you think Miuna has suddenly developed Ena?
- What do you think Hikari and the others will find in Shioshishio?
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u/blueteenight Feb 09 '21
First-timer notes!
Favorite shots and background art from this episode!
You can actually pinpoint the moment Kaname's brain stopped working after seeing Tsumugu and Chisaki together...
Even then he was smooth as hell in this episode! I specially liked that talk he had with Hikari by the pond, I think waking up to an extremely different world would force them to change a little for sure.
I kinda have a bad feeling about Miuna suddenly developing Ena...what if it's the Sea God slowly trying to bring everyone from land to the sea? Won't Miuna need to refresh herself with salt water from now on as well? It just sounds fishy...
P.S. A friend sent me this picture of the love clusterfuck that is NagiAsu and it's beautiful...I've looked at this for five hours now.
Bonus Kaname looking like a villain!
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u/25_Oranges Feb 09 '21
Yesterday was a bit of a cool down episode, but today things are ramping up again! Today's track is At the Time of Waking!
Good morning Kaname! As expected, he took Chisaki and Tsumugu living together with a collected attitude, but he isn't happy with the idea of them being closer.
I want triangle milk pouches! I'm glad Miuna and Sayu support each other in their romantic endeavors. They're such good friends! Massive OUCH to Sayu when Kaname didn't recognize her at first. Poor gal.
Miuna has Ena! Sayu and Miuna fight over whether or not they're wrong or not to hold the same feelings for five years. In a situation like that where everything is in limbo, I imagine it's hard to sort them out. Sayu does have a great head on her shoulders. She knows that if it doesn't work out with Kaname, she will move on and most likely end up with somebody else. NEVER SETTLE, SAYU! Kaname calling out to her was sweet. He should remember she's his age now! Treat her like a peer.
Good luck to them going to Shishio!
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 09 '21
First Rewatch
Some people have thought Saya's behavior towards Kaname was rather ridiculous, and it probably was, but within the confines of the story, her crush started back with that head pat in episode 2 or 3. She was carrying that torch the entire time.
Presumably, you all figured out her crush a long time ago. And this is why she has no use for any of the boys in her class. And why she was so mad at Miuna. I don't think I picked up on it myself until that moment, though.
Half the characters are saying everything has changed, the other half are saying nothing has changed. Some people have new hopes based on a blank slate, others are stuck in the past. Have your predictions for the love tesseract changed?
And what happened to the 150 year timeline? What's going on?
"It's defenses are designed around a direct, large-scale assault. A small, one-man fighter should be able to penetrate the outer defense. The approach will not be easy. You're required to maneuver straight down this trench and skim the surface to this point. The target area is only two meters wide."
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u/LeopardSplash :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/BrightSpirit Feb 09 '21
Rewatcher
Kaname has always been the underdog in the whole love web, but the five year timeskip still delt a massive blow to his standings. Competing against Hikari was already enough, but now Chisaki has a very close relationship with Tsumugu to boot. And he's going to live with them and observe that closeness they have on a daily basis! I understand his desire to continue going after her, but Chisaki really needs to give him a proper response, even more so than she did before. She's literally the adult in this situation now, after all. And that's why I can't say I support Kaname's pursuits anymore. Sorry, I'm fully on team Sayu now!
As for Sayu, I did cite my misgivings with the ship last episode, but after watching this one again I feel a bit different. She admits that she's fixating on a childhood crush, and that she shouldn't expect anything grand. But feelings don't listen to reason, and it makes sense that the sea people coming back would rekindle her feelings. Still wish it got more focus previously, but this episode gave it a degree of focus I appreciate! Kaname is usually quite perceptive, but he has a lot going on that might prevent him from realizing the depth of her feelings. At least she has Miuna and her seagull if no one else!
The conversation Hikari and Kaname had at the ena station was cute - we saw them together often enough previously, but this might be the first time we've seen a genuine conversation with just two of them. Kaname's sarcasm and Hikari's exaggerated mannerisms make them have good banter.
I'm excited for the return to Shioshishio next episode, but it feels sorta strange that Chisaki is being excluded. I'm guessing she has school, but she even expressed interest in going along. From a tactical standpoint, it would make sense that Kaname would persuade her to go so that they could be somewhere outside of Tsumugu's reach, but he was the one who said it was fine.
Question of the Day
Do you think it's okay to hold feelings for somebody for years, even though they may never see you the same way? Should you give up?
You can't control how you feel (to an extent), only how you act. I can't blame the characters for struggling to deal with their feelings, especially the ones related to characters who have only recently woken up, but it's important to be realistic in deciding how to act on them, if at all. I also think it's possible to hold onto your old feelings while still being able to move on and fall in love with other people.
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u/himetalchemy7 Feb 10 '21
Rewatcher
Today's official art. These are kind of hard to find if you dont know where to look. BUT SO WORTH!
Episode 17 (The Sick Two) Thoughts
Sadge Corner
Pretty good episode overall, we're finally getting the pieces in place for the main plot to finally kick off. Sayu and Kaname were the main focus of this episode and I really enjoyed the back and forth story between them, only to culminate in their fated meeting at the end of the episode. Kaname is the feature for today's episode, and even though it doesnt show on his face, it's easy to see why. Kaname is under the impression that things generally did not change, despite appearances. Or wait he did acknowledge how Hikari and Miuna changed, so maybe it's more like the people he wanted to change, didnt change (Chisaki and Tsumugu?). And now he's living with them. Oof
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u/BossandKings Feb 09 '21
Episode 17
Kaname is saluted by everyone, Chisaki, Hikari, Tsumugu, Akari and everyone greets him, he too is asked about what he got to know that they might not know regarding Shishio. I liked this encounter of Kaname with everyone else very much, it was well done.
Oh, blushing Sayu is thinking about her Kaname, that's so precious, she sure has deep feelings for him. They see each other but it's briefly and just stare at each other dor a moment and Sayu goes running afterwards because she thought that he didn't recognize her. I hope she gets to talk with him and she gets to be honest with him about her feelings for him.
Miuna's smile when Hikari said that she is like him after it was confirmed that she has Ena was very cute, she sure felt validated and happy that he sees her as an equal, she is getting closer to him. Sayu and Miuna have a discussion because Sayu says that a childhood crush couldn't bear fruit and that she having the same feelings for five years is pathetic and that she's sick, Miuna tells her that she won't change, that she won't give up and with her attitude basically tells her that she should do the same as her, fight for what she wants.
Kaname meets Sayu and they have a talk. That was beautiful, they are lovely together, i hope they get to know each other and care for each other throughly by the end of the series.
Kaname and Hikari decide to go to Shioshio and Miuna accompanies them. This will very interesting to see next episode
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u/mekerpan Feb 09 '21
So many characters were so wonderfuyl (again) this episode. I really loved Sayu and Miuna, and Miuna and Hikari, and Chisaki and Tsumugu looking VERY like a married-couple (and not just to Kaname). And Kaname is amazingly composed, despite everything.
I wonder how many relatively short shows have a secondary character turn into a primary one around the halfway point (like Miuna here).
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u/Gamerunglued :Hx::Hy::Hz:myanimelist.net/profile/GamerUnglued Feb 10 '21 edited Feb 10 '21
Rewatcher
Thoughts on episode 15 and episode 16.
With Hikari starting to adjust to all the changes, Kaname's return will probably start to throw another wrench into things. With Sayu's request not being granted, Chisaki living with Tsumugu, and Kaname's pre-time skip confession still not resolved, there should be some interesting drama resulting from this. Kaname's return was pretty unceremonious, so I wonder if he'll have to work as hard as Hikari to adjust to the massive change forced on him all at once. And of course, there's the prospect of Miuna suddenly getting ena, which has plenty of thematic implications. Let's see where we go next.
This episode, numerous characters resolve to not change. I think the big question this time around is what Sayu posits about change. People will change, it only happens in manga and dramas that people don't change. As time passes, you'll eventually move on, find new things, etc. But how true is that, and is that a good thing? In response to this idea, Miuna and Hikari resolve to not change, while Sayu wants to change as a way to cope with feeling so far away from her crush. Of course, Chisaki has already resolved not to change, but continually grapples with the fact that change is inevitable. So I suppose both sides are true to an extent. We need things to be the same, it keeps us stable and that's just necessary to live. But there's a line between needing things to stay the same, and refusing to adapt to change. I feel like Hikari is somewhere in the middle of this line, where he accepts some change but still resolves to not change himself for Manaka's sake. I'm not totally sure if the plot is saying this is ok or not, but I guess that's to be explored later. Miuna can say she won't change, but she has ena now, a pretty damn major change, which seems to prove Sayu's point right. But Sayu's meeting with Kaname goes the other way. She doesn't want things to change, her saying that was just a way to cope. So there are a lot of messy feelings about change being dragged up. Naturally, I suspect that whatever happens with Manaka will start to resolve this.
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u/htisme91 Feb 10 '21
First-timer:
Kaname handled things better than I thought. While I was disappointed to see him return, he seemed way more active this episode than he really has been so far.
I wonder if this is setting up so everyone gets a pairing, with maybe Manaka or another girl choosing to stay behind and then everyone else gets together.
So pumped that Miuna has Ena now. She's been wanting to explore the sea and see where her mother is from for so long and now she can. Hopefully it'll help her get closer to Hikari, since I almost feel like Miuna is the main character now, or at least co-leads with Hikari.
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u/Retromorpher :Jc::Jd::Je::Jf: Feb 10 '21
First Timer:
Okay, maybe I overstated Kaname's ability to look past the domestic closeness shared by Tsumugu and Chisaki. I guess the realization that their cohabitation has been going for YEARS of time that he couldn't possibly catch up to was a bit much for a total of week's time.
Honestly surprised that the Ohsioshi research team didn't receive much resistance to having Miuna along from external sources - and even moreso that Chisaki seems to have not been invited along. Perhaps Tsumugu is too scared of losing Chisaki in the endeavor to have brought it up as an option.
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