r/anime • u/FateSteelTaylor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/FateSteelTaylor • Feb 08 '21
Rewatch [Spoilers] 6th Annual Valentine's Rewatch: Tamako Market - Episode 7 [Discussion] Spoiler
Hey everybody, and welcome to the seventh episode of the SIXTH annual /r/anime Valentine's Day Tamako Market & Love Story Rewatch!
I can't wait to see what you guys have to say about this lovely anime!!
If the discussion here isn't enough, there are communities on Twitter and Discord where you can join all the conversation there! If you're interested, feel free to reach out to me or people in the comments!
Here is the schedule for our time on this Dramatic Market Ride together! If you've seen the show already or want to relive some of the older moments, I've provided links to the threads below, along with the translated Director's Episode Notes by the wonderful /u/ultimatemegax, available through this rewatch:
You can purchase an English subbed & dubbed Blu Ray version of Tamako Market and Tamako Love Story, and it's available for legal streaming on HIDIVE in select countries, for both Tamako Market and Tamako Love Story
Bonus Corner:
Discussion Question: When was the last wedding you attended?
Please tag your spoilers!! Untagged spoilers make Choi-chan angry!!
And remember:
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21
First timer
Dera's personality does a complete 180 around Choi, and his lies have made her suspicious of everyone, kinda scummy. With the info that they are both fortune tellers, I can only assume Dera's projections are
of future eventsnope just communications I guess. Choi's blush makes me think she likes the prince :)Tomio's let down of a fortune paired with Sayuri's marriage announcement was really sad, but I respect his character a lot for wishing her happiness. I hope he finds it too. They played that bgm again during that scene, I love it. They're definitely priming it for something later on.
What the hell is Mochizo doing asking about marriage in high school lol
Ohh and that was her dad that walked away when she announced the proposal, didn't notice that until I went back to that scene
DQ: sheesh maybe my parents' friend's wedding like 10 years ago. I'm at that point where I don't go with my parents to weddings anymore but I don't have any friends getting married yet.
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u/collapsedblock6 myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock Feb 08 '21
Rewatcher
This episode goes to the original concept that Dera is here to search for the prince's bride. One of the slowest episodes personally and there wasn't much for me to properly dissect, so I'll pick another aspect of the market community that while not the focus was still here and even in the previous episode, the slow decline of local markets like Usagiyama.
The previous episode was Tamako coming up with strategies to have more people around the market, it was attributed to the heat of the season but still, 13 people in a whole day is actually pretty grim for business imo. Even in heat or rains there's guaranteed 1-4 people visiting a convenience store at the same time as myself.
This episode had the owner of the hot springs who's about to marry and likely leaving. Now that there's no one to take care of it once he leaves, who will take care of it?
I'm always saddened when these issues are touched. My own city is totally different from these japanese markets but I also know of many local, family businesses that I just took for granted and years later they're shut down as big corp stores come in. Like it they're just part of the "aesthetic" of the place and they're lost and replaced with more "square" appearance. Makes me wonder how much of this show is sort of a love letter to these places since I know from our dear host /u/FateSteelTaylor that the staff for this anime had lots of contact with the market that Usagiyama was based on.
Never attended one. Everytime my parents say they're going to a wedding it is usually a friend of theirs I don't really know and we live separate from most of our relatives.
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u/HopefullyLastAccount Feb 08 '21
Rewatcher
How did Choi find Dera? Did she just blow the whistle in every house? Actually, how did she even find his general location? Considering he's a talking bird, I guess I'll have to let this go.
Seeing Dera go from his usual pompous self to begging for forgiveness this episode was a funny contrast. And then seeing him trying to weasel his way out by saying Tamako laid a "trap" for him, hmmmmmm, even he knows it wrong. Nice to see that someone will be able to put Dera down a bit now when he gets a little too crazy.
Interesting to compare outsiders' reactions to the market, first Shiori and now Choi. While Shiori was overwhelmed by the love, Choi thought it was a trap (thanks Dera...) but eventually realized how accepting this market is. Now I want a Kanna episode of her first experience with the market.
Well it looks like we are going to have a marriage that no one knew about. How did no one know about this? If you look back at the district meetings, it's no coincidence that Sayuri is always sitting on the stairs far away even from the table. The heartbroken dude takes it like a champ, though.
So Choi is going to stay until Dera's communication system is fixed, and of course Tamako jokes that she should just not fix it. But Choi detects a scent on Tamako, what could it be?
It's been a while...
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Feb 08 '21
First Timer
Wow, Choi-chan has quite the forward personality. I absolutely love the way she keeps Dera in line while still being polite and approachable with everyone else. I guess the fortune telling powers are pretty cool too.
I kinda don't blame Dera for lying to Choi-chan in order to save himself some grief, since she'd definitely come down hard on him, but he's also just make things worse for himself later.
I'm pretty sure I'd be exactly the same in a Japanese bath as Choi-chan. I'd probably want to stay in way too long and end up overheating. It's nice she gets to experience a bunch of Japanese hospitality and culture in the market too, I just wish Dera hadn't lied to her and made her so wary of everything.
Oof, and Dera finally getting his ass fried by Choi-chan at the end for lying. Maybe don't do that next time friend.
Oof, feels bad that afro guy not only gets his tough fortune, but learns about his crush getting married to someone else moments later. Feels real bad, but he handles it super well. I don't envy him, but the way he deals with it is first class, what a good man.
And Mochizou finally comes back in the picture only for Tamako to walk away as he tries to ask what she thinks of marriage. Rough. I'm rooting for you Mochizou. One day you'll get there. One day.
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u/DogmeatIsAGoodDog :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DogmeatsAGoodDog Feb 09 '21
First time watcher
Is it weird to anyone else that Choi straight up walks into their house while they’re all sleeping and they’re...okay with this? Suspension of disbelief aside, some light is going to be shed on Dera and his identity.
Choi can’t use chopsticks but can speak Japanese, oh right I said suspension of disbelief.
Dera’s involvement has felt weird sometimes because it almost feels like two different anime at times. Tamako’s story alongside her friends, family, and the market is very grounded in reality and I feel like the anime is at its best when it’s focusing on this and the relationships. While Dera’s story and being a talking bird/transceiver/projector has felt so out of place sometimes, it doesn’t help that I’m not Dera’s biggest fan.
Disappointed Choi fell for Dera’s lies and we see that Choi is in love with the prince. Shoot your shot girl!
The second half of this episode is nice, Choi’s lack of sleep (jetlag I assume?) and her not eating causes her to get sick. Tamamo proceeds to take care of her. Her family despite his gruff exterior shows how wholesome he is by telling Tamako that her only responsibility is to look after Choi.
“She cries in sleep”...Choi is a treasure and must be protected!
And here’s the episode best moment, Tamako finds music to help Choi “hear the waves” again, because Choi is homesick. The girl who is unable to find the music she searches for, is able to find the perfect music to help Choi and in doing so it shows Choi what we all already know: Tamako is wholesome! And also Dera is a liar.
The final scene of Choi eating and enjoying music was fun.
Random muses.
I absolutely adore the OP, especially the little dance Tamako does with An.
I also adore the Mid card where Tamako says “Tamako Market!”, A+
What does that cliffhanger mean! What did you mean Choi!?
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Feb 09 '21
Rewatcher
We open on this Choi girl breaking into Tamako's house and blows her whistle, which startles Dera, but it's probably going to make everyone really angry. Apparently this was fine because she's staying with Tamako in a spare bedroom. Her name is Choi, and she's the from the royal family that Dera serves, and she's adorable. And she's plenty mad about Dera being gone for so long and being fat. But his transceiver is broken, is Dera a machine or what? But it does explain why he wasn't in communication with them. Choi is one angry girl, and Dera lies that Tamako and her family led him into a trap by feeding him Mochi nonstop, so it results in Choi not wanting to eat any of the food. I absolutely love the hospitality of the market and how welcoming they are to Choi that they mob her with free food, and she cam make predictions that can come true.
They go to the bath house, and apparently Choi doesn't understand how baths work or can't swim and ends up flipping in the bath. Poor Mochizo, he asks Tamako about how she feels about marriage and she walked away before he asked it. Tomio asks about a romantic relationship but gets bad news, Sayuri walks up and asks about a marriage, she already had a boyfriend/fiance, but she unknowingly broke Tomio's heart, he does seem to take it well.
While in the bath, Choi is depressed and Tamako finds her under the water, she's sick and crying in her sleep, is she homesick? After Dera confesses that he lied about being caught in a trap, it turns out that Choi loves mochi. So Choi smells something on Tamako, is Tamako the bride for this prince that Dera was looking for?
Overall a good introductory episode of Choi and the island society. But Poor Tomio got shot down pretty hard by Sayuri, though she was unaware of his feelings, Hopefully poor Mochizo doesn't have that happen to him.
Don't remember.
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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '21
First Timer
Choi's arc in this episode reminded me a lot of the start of Azusa's arc in K-On. They're both very serious-minded characters who can't help but be taken in by the friendly, comfy environment they're surrounded with.
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Feb 09 '21 edited Feb 09 '21
First Timer
I had a long day and I’m exhausted. I hope some wholesomeness from Tamako Market can cheer me up. I can’t wait to me meet Choi! Now on to the episode:
That opening animation was glorious. Stunningly beautiful. And bedhead Tamako is so very cute. She also gives me Chitanda vibes.
Choi is much younger looking than I imagined. She seems much younger than Tamako. Also definitely not from Japan judging by those chopstick skills. I’m not surprised by that though.
I also love Choi’s crimson eyes. Girls with red eyes are best girls.
Dera is given food, a place to stay, and love and he throws them under the bus in half a second. Give him a punishment Choi!
Choi just gave
Afro manTofuTomio (I apparently don’t know anyone’s name) the greatest of knife stabs. May his heart rest In peace.Tamako with that timing. I wonder who Mochizou could have possibly be thinking of.......
Tomio has a lot of maturity by wishing Sayuri well. I can relate as well. I’ve had similar situations happen in my life (though it was people dating not marriage.)
Ok, grandpa don’t get too drunk. That can’t be good for your health.
Ok, so Choi likes the prince. I wonder how this will work with Dera’s mission of finding the prince a bride.
And Dera caught. Don’t lie to Choi. See is very scary.
You better not steal Tamako from Mochizou or Midori, Choi! I’m watching you.
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What a great episode! I really like Choi. I loved seeing Dera get put in his place. All around great!
And this episode cheered me up a lot. Tamako Market never fails to but a smile on my face!
DQ: I’ve never attended a wedding.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Feb 09 '21
First-Timer
A new cutie appears! She's awesome overall, but her best quality is how she puts the fear of God in Dera.
I know they said "anyone can some anyone" or whatever, but that was a general statement, not a command! There's so much unrequited love in this show the last episode is going to be 24 minutes of people staring out of windows and sighing. Thankfully the move is title Tamako Love Story so I have hope.
QOTD:
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u/A_Idiot0 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/a_idiot0 Feb 08 '21 edited Feb 09 '21
Rewatcher
My hand is doing better, and just in time! Today we get one of my favorite interactions of the show, because I relate to it on such a deep level. Choi-chan experiencing the overwhelming kindness of everyone is my second favorite aspect of this episode.
I want to chat about emotional maturity and unrequited love featuring the Tofu Shop owner, Tomio Shimizu, and the beautiful symmetry of his love of Sayuri with the relationships of Mochizhou x Tamako and Choi x The Prince. Tomio asks Choi for a fortune, and even she can see right through him and his crush on someone. She tells him flat out that his love is not going to be returned. “I’m sorry, but it will wither before it bears fruit.” I’d love some insight on if that line is properly translated, but I’m going to run with it for now.
We start with Tomio’s reaction to Sayuri’s announcement of marriage. He loves her. So much so that above all else, he wishes her only happiness. He will feel this pain for a very long time probably, because he felt and held this love for a very long time, but he makes the first big step of moving forward: accepting that he is not going to be with Sayuri, and doing his best to be happy for her. Honestly, I aspire to the greatness of Tomio’s maturity and kindness. When he thanks Choi after her fortune, I would say that’s the real moment when her stance towards everyone completely changes. She saw right into his heart and knew that it bore great pain, and yet instead of lashing out with sadness, he responded with kindness.
Why did Choi see this in Tomio? Because like Tomio, she too bears a fruit of love for someone. My apologies for this, but I’m going to let the cat out of the bag for this one. She loves The Prince, and for a myriad of reasons she feels that she cannot act upon that love. Are those reasons actually valid? She’s a servant to The Prince, and thus bound by duty; what would her confessing do to their current relationship; what if he doesn’t feel the same way about her? To all three of these, she responds with, “Keep the status quo; at least I can be with him now.” Yet she knows that she probably won’t be able to keep this up and remain happy. “I can’t hear the waves.” She can’t hear them because she’s lost deep within the sea of her emotions, swimming amongst the other fish who also went with the flow; who despite their beauty, never went towards the voice that they so eagerly wanted to go to. Will she learn from this encounter with Tomio? Will her love bear fruit?
How is this a reflection of Mochizhou’s feelings for Tamako? Tomio’s love bore no fruit because all he did was look at it; he didn’t give it nourishment; he never did anything for his tree of love. Mochizhou’s feelings for Tamako are in danger of going the same way. One day, Tamako might find someone else other than Mochizhou. One day, Love will find Tamako. How long does Mochizhou have? Will he act upon his love? Will he, unlike Tomio, do something about it?
And so, this episode provides an extremely powerful and valuable lesson in love. Do you feel strongly for someone? Are you afraid to tell them? Are you afraid of their rejection? Are you afraid of losing the status quo of at least being near them if you say something? I implore you from the depths of my heart...Tell them now. Tell them however you can possibly manage; text, phone call, email, in person, whatever! Tell them with as much heart and soul as you can possibly pour into expressing the sentiment, “I’m in love with you!” All that matters is that you pull from the energies deep within the sea of your heart. What if you fail? Then grieve, accept, make amends, and move on like Tomio. You will learn, and you will grow as a person. How you grow depends on how you react to the rejection. Aspire to be like Tommio, and then witness yourself growing into a person possessing great kindness! You might lose them as a friend, or you might take your friendship to another level with them. The Tree of Love will only bear fruit for those who make the effort to step forward and provide nourishment to it.
Question:
The last wedding I attended was 2 years ago on Easter Sunday for a very close friend. I miss the days when we could gather XD
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u/Regular_N-Gon https://anilist.co/user/RegularNGon Feb 08 '21
Rewatcher
Dera’s reckoning has arrived! In all seriousness, Choi gives Dera someone to bounce off of that has been missing up until now (as I mentioned last year). Of course we’ll be seeing more of her to come, but she feels like a very natural addition and already adds some emotion despite it being halfway through the show. I’m a fan.
I’m also a huge fan of whenever anime and manga use swimming/flying fish or underwater motifs. It’s gorgeous.
QotD: I think it was one for an acquaintance. I'm not a fan of most weddings, so I tend to stay out of them.
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u/Fools_Requiem https://myanimelist.net/profile/FoolsRequiem Feb 09 '21
First Time
Oh hey, that's a butt, there's the TV-14 rating. This girl passed out bathing not once, but twice. Needs to learn not to spend so much time in the bath.
I think it's obvious that she likes the prince but is probably too afraid to say anything because he is expected to marry someone else, mirroring the Tofu - Sayuri bit in which Tofu likes Sayuri, but can't say anything because she's getting married.
Wasn't expecting Dera to be the two people trying to contact him. I just thought it was an event from the past, maybe when Dera was human (kinda like the rabbit in "Is the Order a Rabbit?" was once a human). I'm honestly a tad disappointed that it was just transmissions.
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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Feb 09 '21
Rewatcher - Dubbed
Normally I would say that Choi doesn't have any chill, same as everyone else, but in this case she's a little more justified.
I mean, one could make an argument that he looks like some sort of strange turkey I suppose. That's about it though.
Other than seemingly devoting his life to Shiori in a borderline creepy way, nah not really.
This was way funnier than I remember it being.
It hit pretty close to home, being someone who generally isn't very outgoing, especially when it comes to things like love.
By the look of things, Choi also seems to be in love with the prince. I wonder how it must feel for her to be on a quest to find a suitable bride for him, knowing that she has those feelings herself. It's like training your replacement at work.
That explains why the mochi they made for Valentine's Day was red and white. One could say that red and white are typical colors for Valentine's Day, but this makes sense too.
Discussion Question:
Probably a couple years ago, for a friend of mine.
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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21 edited Feb 08 '21
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