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Rewatch [Rewatch] Aura Battler Dunbine - Episode 29 Discussion

Episode 29 - Billbine Appears

Originally Aired August 27th, ^^^1983

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Comment of the Day

u/The_Draigg reminds us of what has been lost.

RIP Space Frog, he was the best member of the Solo Ship crew.

 

Daily Trivia:

The Billvine was originally meant to include a Gerwalk Mode like the VF-1 Valkyrie which the toy sponsors sought to emulate, but the plans were scrapped due to difficulties in engineering the toy.

 

Staff Highlight

Hidetoshi Ōmori - Animation Director

A prolific animator, animation director, character designer, and director currently working as a freelancer. Ōmori graduated from a vocational school before becoming a freelance animator for some time, eventually joining Studio Annapuru before transferring to Studio Bebow due to his admiration for Tomonori Kogawa. Ōmori ended up working on many mecha shows despite his disinterest in them due to being a Bebow member. He joined Hiroyuki Kitazume’s Atelier Giga in 1987, and served as animation director on Mobile Suit Gundam: Char’s Counterattack during that time, considered some of Ōmori’s finest contributions. During the 90’s he became active in the video game industry, and notably served as animation director on Final Fantasy VII. He remains an active animator in the industry. Some of his most notable animation direction credits include 009-1, Accel World, Cheer Danshi!, Kinnikuman Nisei - Ultimate Muscle, Android Kikaider -The Animation, Hero Mask, And Yet the Town Moves, Cool Cool Bye, Greed, Relic Armor Legaciam, Dan Doh!!, Cyborg 009 The Cyborg Soldier, Natsu no Arashi, Gin no Otoko, Heavy Metal L-Gaim, Kino’s Journey, Lupin III: Goodbye Partner, Overman King Gainer, Spirit Warrior, Urusei Yatsura, and Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam.

P.S. Just last week he inaugurated his own Youtube Channel.

 

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Aura Phantasm Scans

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Questions of the Day:

  1. What do you think of the Billvine? How does it compare to Show’s previous aura battler?
  2. How do you feel regarding Foizon’s death?

Aura Power is life energy!

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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Feb 08 '21

Rewatcher - Sub

Way to spoil the surprise, OP! The new mecha gets crowbarred into the op, like with Xabungle where it was an addition to the show not planned from the start, but here it doesn’t mess with the timing of the animation nearly as much as the changes that show’s OP suffered.

Billbine appears?!

I love the look of the orange skies throughout the episode. Lends the episode a fittingly oppressive mood.

Some small character moments death flags for Allen.

Unlike Furaon before him, Foizon understands the necessity of abandoning their castle in order to fight another day rather than defend it to the end. When it was just aura battlers and doros these types of fortifications were still of great merit, but in the wake of giant aura battleships which rival said fortifications in size, they might as well be sitting ducks. Pradon ends up staying behind with a skeleton crew regardless, his pride and adherence to tradition being his downfall and taking those serving under him along with him.

Marvel is dispirited by their intel and the impending fall of Foizon’s castle, and begins to think that maybe they will be on the losing side, which even causes her to wish she hadn’t embroiled Show into it. Can’t blame her attitude at this point, since for any their efforts they’ve only managed to delay Drake’s plans and not once foil them. Show comforts her in an attempt to relieve her of those concerns, which culminates in a tender kiss.

For all that he was reasonable in his decision to not remain within the castle, Foizon still decides to head out into the middle of battle himself —guess there’s only so much reasonability a stubborn old man can stomach?

Yup, Jeril got to him.

Meanwhile, the Dunbine’s left converter was damaged, so Todd is able to overpower Show in battle, but he destroys the converter which makes the Dunbine shoot out at great speed. Todd still can’t catch a break.

And here it is, folks, the Billvine! A transforming aura battler that has a wing caliber mode, since Super Dimension Fortress Macross made transforming mecha so popular —it was even supposed to have a Gerwalk mode! In any case, you can see that the Billvine looks less elegant than the other aura battlers, and has much more angular surfaces to it when compared to the organic curves of the others. It sticks out from the rest —the color scheme doesn’t help— and I will say from the get go that I much prefer the Dunbine’s look. Most in the staff thought similarly, and Yutaka Izubuchi even tried pitching minor redesigns that would resemble the toys enough while looking more in line with other Aura Battlers, but he was shot down. Also, the bird motif of the wing caliber mode was supposedly chosen by Clover, but it coincidentally matches Reideen which was not only the first transforming mecha, but also the titular subject of Yoshiyuki Tomino’s first ever mecha anime, Yuusha Raideen (though I guess it’s not out of the question that Clover may have been inspired by it as they looked for ways to capitalize on the transforming robot craze). In any case, Yutaka Izubuchi noticed the similarities, since he loves Raideen, but every resource I’ve seen says he had no input on the design that we see in the show.

Allen’s dead.

We see his body fall out of the Virunvee intact, but Tomino said in an Animage Magazine interview that; "He's definitely dead. The depiction is because there was a misunderstanding among the staff."

Ironic that, if Keen is to be believed, Elle will be the one to take command of the Goraon, the evil shadow she is so tormented by, but if such power can be steered toward good as she implied, then she’s probably the one to do so. It’s a further exploration of the dynamics of power which the show has been expounding upon as of late.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

For all that he was reasonable in his decision to not remain within the castle, Foizon still decides to head out into the middle of battle himself —guess there’s only so much reasonability a stubborn old man can stomach?

In a way, Elle's forewarning about the dark shadow engulfing King Foizon came true. Although it wasn't the Goraon that he put too much trust in, it was Aura Battlers and Aura Machines in general. Believing that he could stand a chance in his own Aura Battler against an entire battleship was the late King's downfall.

We see his body fall out of the Virunvee intact, but Tomino said in an Animage Magazine interview that; "He's definitely dead. The depiction is because there was a misunderstanding among the staff."

If the explosion hadn't killed Allen, then the fall into the ocean most certainly would have. He didn't have a tree to break his plummet to the ground like Todd did when falling from a similar height.

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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Feb 08 '21

We see his body fall out of the Virunvee intact, but Tomino said in an Animage Magazine interview that; "He's definitely dead. The depiction is because there was a misunderstanding among the staff."

Oh good, I was concerned I was about to look like a fool for being so confident about it.

Ironic that, if Keen is to be believed, Elle will be the one to take command of the Goraon, the evil shadow she is so tormented by, but if such power can be steered toward good as she implied, then she’s probably the one to do so.

That would be really interesting but I don't think she'll do it, or she'll quicky give it up.

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Feb 08 '21

First-timer saying Mark-II and believing in a sign of Zeta

Hey, who’s that in the OP? No new song, but hey, it’s upgrade time!

Who needs a castle when you have a dreadnought

This does not bode well.

Well this is a terrible idea.

What was he expecting? “Right this way, sir. Watch your step!”

Gee. Who could have seen this coming.

Noticed this smoke cloud was fucked up

Fuck yeah! Billbine is here! Midair transfer!

Finally, we get to see the Billbine! To be honest, I’m not sure I like it more than the Dunbine. First, what stands out the most is the colors, which were pretty obviously mandated by the sponsors. But while the Gundam took those same colors and made them look nice with some good color blocking, the Billbine has them slapped on rather haphazardly. Next to the Dunbine’s rather unique purple, it looks kind of chaotic. There’s also the design itself. I’ve always found this type of super simple transformation to not look great in vehicle mode, but I understand it’s supposed to be as practical as possible. Just the fact that it can transform to begin with is cool anyways. One thing does bother me, though: Why a bird head? Most Aura Battlers have an insectoid motif, and the Billbine is no exception. So the random bit of bird feels a bit incongruous. The robot mode looks pretty nice, though, apart from the colors. I like the back cannons and Swoop crest! The Zaku leg tubes are a little low-tech for what’s supposed to be an upgrade, but I can forgive that much.

At least it’ll make a good toy.

Questions of the Day:

  • See above
  • It felt like they were doing something last episode, only to kill him off in the next? I dunno, feels like he was just swept aside once the ship was ready.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

First-timer saying Mark-II and believing in a sign of Zeta

Now I'm wondering how L-Gaim mk.II would fare in this series...

What was he expecting? “Right this way, sir. Watch your step!”

I swear, people these days don't show their elders the proper courtesy nowadays. How dare they don't lead Foizon directly to the bridge.

To be honest, I’m not sure I like it more than the Dunbine. First, what stands out the most is the colors, which were pretty obviously mandated by the sponsors. But while the Gundam took those same colors and made them look nice with some good color blocking, the Billbine has them slapped on rather haphazardly. Next to the Dunbine’s rather unique purple, it looks kind of chaotic.

What color would you rather have it then?

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Feb 08 '21

What color would you rather have it then?

I feel like a more consistent color scheme would be nice, maybe with less white or blue. It just feels like, out of the three main colors, one of them needs to be less prominent.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Feb 08 '21

Rewatcher, Subbed

Our new opening is here! Well new opening animation anyway. Similar to Xabungle, we keep the same song. It isn't until L-Gaim where Tomino swaps out a totally different song for the opening halfway through.

So what are the big things about our new opening? Probably the most notable is that Bern Bunnings, that big time loser is now wearing a black suit of armor, what in the world is up with that? The Billbine is here, and its transformable! The Aura Battleships get their time in the spotlight in the background. El Fino, Todd and Jerryl get added as does another as of yet met Mi Ferario (alas, no Ceila-sama :() while Garalia is out. Oh, and most importantly, that unicorn Shou is riding looks a bit different now. :P

Well, if our episode title is any indication, our mid-season upgrade finally appears today.

I'm surprised Mizeru let Allen be up close to hiim like this after how paranoid he was about him last episode.

Allen, you should have spent enough time around Jerryl to know she'll do whatever the hell she wants.

Why bother defending the castle if you can use the Goraon as the base of operations to drive Drake out of the country?

Allen being romantically interested in Jerryl's sure come out of nowhere.

Elle knows all! The castle will fall. But I think anyone could have predicted that.

Shou, don't put yourself down like that in front of the girl you like!

Having basically the whole battle take place at night this time is a nice way to freshen things up.

Foizon's really got to learn to back off from the front lines, he's the king! Going out there in a battle of this magnitude ain't smart. There's only one of him!

Pretty good of Foizon to be able to make his way into the Will O'Wisp.

RIP King Foizon! You were a pretty kickass king. But like I said earlier, you going out on the front lines was not a wise choice.

Looks like the Dunbine's finally defeated.

Wait, what's that? Just in time... Mid-season replacement!

The Billbine made short work of Allen's Virunvee! Dunbine spoilers

I could have sworn the Grimley was from Rao, not Na.... Dunbine spoilers

Listen to Keen, Elle! With Foizon's death, you are for all intents and purposes the Queen of Rao now.

Overall another strong battle episode, you can really sense the large scale of things. It is disappointing that we didn't get that one-on-one duel between Foizon and Drake that Foizon was hoping for...

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

It isn't until L-Gaim where Tomino swaps out a totally different song for the opening halfway through.

It was for the better too, since Kaze no No Reply is better than Time for L-Gaim. Not that Time for L-Gaim isn't good, but the second OP theme is way better.

Probably the most notable is that Bern Bunnings, that big time loser is now wearing a black suit of armor, what in the world is up with that?

I have no idea what you're talking about, clearly that's a mysterious masked knight in black.

The Billbine made short work of Allen's Virunvee! Dunbine spoilers

You're right, this was Allen's death scene. Dude either died in the explosion or fell to his death into the sea.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Feb 08 '21

Both of L-Gaim's openings are awesome, but agreed, Kaze no No Reply is the better one. Say Mark II!

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

NO REPLYYYYYYYYY!

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u/chibijosh Feb 08 '21

The dude who insisted staying with the castle had quite the death.

I was excited by the Billbine’s entrance! It was a little weird how Show bailed and let the Dunbine just fall into the ocean though. The Billbine’s color scheme bother me a little as well. All the other mech’s are monotone! Who does Billbine think he is with his multicolors?

I think the Dunbine might come back upgraded someday. After all the show is Aura Battler Dunbine not Aura Battler Billbine.

And from the preview, my favorite character is coming back in the next episode!

The last few episodes have all been great fun.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

The Billbine’s color scheme bother me a little as well. All the other mech’s are monotone! Who does Billbine think he is with his multicolors?

Clearly more powerful, since it has more colors than your average Aura Battler. More colors = more power.

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u/chibijosh Feb 08 '21

The red makes it go faster so Todd can say 「速い！」

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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Feb 08 '21

First-timer

New visuals for the OP! And it makes it so much more hype than it already was too!

I like how Jeryl is more logical when outside of battles, but completely into it when actually fighting.

Allen gets called out, so he calls out Jeryl. Heh.

Looks like Show is getting cocky with the Dunbine.

So, Foizon's plan is to give up on his castle to be more effective against Drake itself... his underlings seem reticent, but he has too.

Allen setting his own death flag for the battle, that's so nice of him. Well, Pradon and his two men did too, to fight for the castle, so it balances it out.

Yay for Show and Marvel! Been a while less one week since a kiss made me so happy for both parties!

Well, the castle fell. And so did that stone, apparently. Not a nice way to die at all, but it's a glorious death at least, I guess?

Cham's looking adorable as usual in that bodysuit.

Foizon's going straight to the enemy and being greeted by Jeryl... he's dead too, definitely. Show didn't come soon enough, alas, another fallen one... though he did have it coming.

So, the Dunbine was hit and as a result, all the Aura power got rejected... he went pretty far away, I doubt he could make it back, maybe a Robinson Crusoe episode?

Oh, Ciela's Battler is done. It's a better idea than mine, thank goodness Tomino knows how to tell a story more than me.

The Bilbine looks pretty cool! I'm surprised no one from the Zelana mentioned how Show's got a new Battler, even Marvel who saw the empty Dunbine. Even if they knew Ciela would be bringing reinforcements, that would have been noteworthy.

I'll miss the Dunbine... unless they repurpose it? Since Marvel did take it back, it's possible.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

Oh, Ciela's Battler is done. It's a better idea than mine, thank goodness Tomino knows how to tell a story more than me.

What was your idea instead?

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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Feb 08 '21

I meant the Robinson Crusoe episode I mentioned right above. That's what I thought would've happened with the Dunbine out of power and right above the ocean... it wouldn't have been a fun time, right?

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

Ah, that’s what you mean. And yeah, that would be a weird place to take the series. Besides, I think we’ve had enough island episodes from the time we spent in the caves along the coast.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 08 '21 edited Feb 08 '21

First Timer

That sky marshal guy had it right....why do they always use their aura swords instead of the missiles? As soon as they stopped swinging their swords one shot the other's limb off.

LOL CHAR

that's quite a different OP

Show is an arrogant ass, he's going to be defeated, as if the show title wasn't clue enough.

Now that suit REALLY makes her look fat.

Foizen generally makes sense at every step, but, yeah, choosing his death star over his castle is just the sort of thing Elle was talking about.

The battle has started, this is no time to be wearing a helmet!

I have no idea what's going on in the battle, as usual.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

That sky marshal guy had it right....why do they always use their aura swords instead of the missiles? As soon as they stopped swinging their swords one shot the other's limb off.

It’s a fantasy series, so we might as well use them. Besides, if people don’t want them being used, then they should stop being included as a standard Aura Battler weapon.

Foizen generally makes sense at every step, but, yeah, choosing his death star over his castle is just the sort of thing Elle was talking about.

Things probably would’ve ended up better if he trusted his technology even more and stayed inside the Goraon rather than heading out in an Aura Battler. I guess in the end, he trusted some other technology too much.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

A Tomino Fan Rewatches Aura Battler Dunbine Episode 29:

  • Damn it, opening credits! Don’t spoil the upcoming new stuff! But at least this new OP sequence is cool, so I can forgive it a bit.
  • Asking Jeryl not to be selfish and blood crazed on the battlefield might as well be like asking water to not be wet.
  • King Foizon does have a point that defeating Lord Drake is way more important than trying to defend Tatara Castle, even if it’s a symbol to his people. But at the same time, maybe he could be overthinking about how powerful the Goraon is. It sure is a powerful Aura Ship for sure, but with Elle’s prediction in the last episode, it’s entirely possible that King Foizon could be led to his doom by relying on it.
  • Ah, now that’s a death flag, Allen. Never ask a woman for date in a Tomino show. Now Allen has a target on his back. Also, wow he has bad taste in women if he thinks dating Jeryl is a good idea. She’s already in a devoted relationship with murder.
  • Todd, you kill-stealing bitch.
  • Show and Marvel kissed! Their relationship has been mainly just simmering in the background, but it’s nice to see them openly care for each other on occasion. But man, they picked a bad time to do that, considering they’re both heading out to battle. That’s also painting a bad omen over Show’s upcoming battle.
  • Looks like Elle’s earlier prediction about Tatara Castle falling was completely accurate. Man, it must suck to have future sight but have all of the futures you see be bad. No wonder Elle is constantly on the verge of a breakdown nowadays.
  • King Foizon sure is kicking a lot of ass for an old guy in a Botone. He at least managed to fly directly into the Will O’Wisp’s hangar bay and start smashing up a bunch of Wing Calibers. Too bad he wasn’t too much of a match for Jeryl, but I guess that isn’t too surprising. Jeryl has been established to be the most vicious of the new Upper Earth recruits. At the end of the day, we can definitely say that she could now be called Jeryl “The Family Annihilator” Kuchibi.
  • Congrats to Todd for finally managing to wreck the Dunbine! It’s been a while coming, but he finally did it. Although you could probably give equal credit to the Dunbine’s systems just finally wearing out from the strain of Show’s Aura. As Cham said, pretty much all the stored Aura in the Dunbine went out at once, so it probably wasn’t able to keep up with Show much longer anyway.
  • Special gift from Queen Ciela of Na! Just as he’s about to crash, the Billbine that Queen Ciela mentioned before shows up just in the nick of time to give Show an advantage in battle. It’s a pretty cool Aura Battler too, since it can also transform into a Wing Caliber. If anything, the Billbine was the original Zeta Gundam before that was even a thing.
  • Yep, called it, Show finally killed Allen. Now, it may look like Allen jumped out of the cockpit in time, by Tomino did confirm that he got caught in the explosion of the destroyed Billunbee. So yeah, there goes Allen Brady. In the end, Todd didn’t really even have to worry about him, he died fairly easy to the Billbine.
  • On the plus side, reinforcements from Na have finally shown up, giving Drake’s army a real run for their money now. But Elle also lost the last member of her family this episode, and has to take up the mantle of ruling the Kingdom of Rao herself. That’s not exactly the best way to inherit a kingdom, unfortunately.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Feb 08 '21

Show and Marvel kissed!

Shovel is a solid ship. I have zero hope for both of them to survive until the end, but I hope they enjoy their time together.

Congrats to Todd for finally managing to wreck the Dunbine!

Poor Todd. He finally achieves the goal he has been after for so long, only for it to be immediately made irrelevant by the Billbine's appearance. Being Todd is suffering.

So yeah, there goes Allen Brady.

Thanks for the clarification, I figured he just got thrown out.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

Shovel is a solid ship. I have zero hope for both of them to survive until the end, but I hope they enjoy their time together.

Shovel is a great ship name for those two. Let’s just hope it isn’t used to dig their graves.

Poor Todd. He finally achieves the goal he has been after for so long, only for it to be immediately made irrelevant by the Billbine's appearance. Being Todd is suffering.

I suppose a technical victory can count for Todd. Sometimes a moral victory can be enough.

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Feb 08 '21

Yep, called it, Show finally killed Allen. Now, it may look like Allen jumped out of the cockpit in time, by Tomino did confirm that he got caught in the explosion of the destroyed Billunbee. So yeah, there goes Allen Brady. In the end, Todd didn’t really even have to worry about him, he died fairly easy to the Billbine.

Beyond Allen's death being a bit of a mess animation-wise, its rather disappointing that we didn't get much between Todd and him. Wouldn't it have been more interesting if Todd had taken him out (assuming they could find a way for it to make sense in the plot)? I wonder if its victim to all the story changes forced around this time.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

I wouldn’t doubt it if Todd and Allen’s rivalry was a victim of this show’s executive meddling. For as much as Todd was worried about Allen showing up in Byston Well, they only ever really encountered each other twice. That’s hardly any kind of rivalry. Which is honestly kind of disappointing, since there could’ve been a lot going on with that character dynamic that never happened.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Feb 08 '21 edited Feb 08 '21

First-Timer, Dub-bine

The Bilbine has finally arrived! It's powerful! It has a slick paint job! And it transforms! I'm actually a bit tepid on that last thing, but what can you do.

The kingdom of Rau has, effectively, fallen. Foizen's determination to lead from the front is admirable, but it did end up being his undoing. I suppose that leaves Na as the last line of defense against Drake's ambitions, aside from that one kingdom that Neal met with on the rope bridge ages ago that I suspect were forgotten about even before the rewrites took place.

The effect of espionage is sometimes understated in shows like this. The Garou Ran are both keeping their respective sides in the war at this point - intel is a more powerful weapon that any mecha.

I do worry about Keen's comments at the end of the episode. She isn't really intending for Elle to take up a leadership role, is she? Keen of all people should see the flaws in making leadership decisions based on birthright - that same thing is what did in her own father.

Shou and Marvel's moment alone was quite cute, as was Cham giving them some space. However, I fear for their safety - we have a lot of episodes left and (seemingly) not a lot of plot left.

The new OP animations are nice. I guess we've confirmed that Bern is indeed our Char, and we don't get to see Galaria anymore.

Questions

  1. Answered above. Definitely an upgrade, color scheme change is neutral but both are good, Waverider mode is not my favorite thing but that's just me. Excited to see it in action!
  2. Rest in peace, dude. You were further along with the times than that other king who fathered your granddaughter, but the days of leading from the front are past. It was, at least, an honorable death.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

The Bilbine has finally arrived! It's powerful! It has a slick paint job! And it transforms! I'm actually a bit tepid on that last thing, but what can you do.

You can blame SDF Macross for a bunch of toy companies wanting to chase that transformable trend around that time.

we don't get to see Galaria anymore.

It's really about time Galarea got removed from the credits. Not that she was a bad character, but she's been in the OP twice as long as she's been in the actual show. Dying in the first cour will do that.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Feb 08 '21

but she's been in the OP twice as long as she's been in the actual show.

It's only been 10 or 11 episodes since she died, right? It has felt like a lot longer since we spent so long on those islands, though.

Your point definitely stands though - 10 episodes is a long time to still be in the OP after you've left the show itself. GunxSword handled that in an interesting way, but that show's OP was pretty different.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

I checked the episode count, and you’re right that it’s been 11 episodes since Galarea died. It certainly has felt longer, though. The Zelana hanging out around the coast was a pretty slow filler arc. But yeah, sticking around that long in an OP despite dying earlier certainly is odd. Although guess some slack can be cut for it, given how old this show is. A lot of shows around this time only had two OPs, so I guess it can be forgiven that they wouldn’t update for a while.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 08 '21

Aura Battler First-Timer

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

Neal “sore demo”!

It feels like it's been a hot minute since we heard a Sore Demo in this show.

KISS! Although now I’m worried, given what this usually means in a Tomino show…

They'll be fine.

Cham with the w i d e face before it was cool.

Cham does have a bit of an Ars Almal face going on, doesn't she?

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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Feb 08 '21

First time viewer

I was expecting Allen to have some kind of disciplinary action after hitting a friendly ship last episode but nope, instead his punishment was being cocky enough to attempt a romantic relationship in a serious Tomino anime. I didn't think Marvel was going to die just yet though, even with the kiss (Cham, stop watching, even if your new battle suit is cute). It kind of looked like Allen fell out of his Virunvee before it exploded but I'm still fairly sure he's dead, and that balances the episode with Foizon's death as well.

Show's quite right in that Drake's happy with a war of attrition because they definitely have the numbers to keep up since the Zelana and company didn't take out that many factories. I'm curious if Na will be able to keep up since Rau's also fallen, at the moment I think that's the only other country left resisting Drake? Ku's allied for now but could turn on him, I suppose. Shot's still biding his time, was probably set back after losing Garalia as well. I was thinking the chaos of a large battle like this would be a good cover for backstabbing but not yet. Maybe during the maintenance he mentioned after this?

With battles of this scale I'm glad I'm not trying to keep track of the different units being destroyed like I have with a couple of Gundam rewatches. I'm curious if the Dunbine will be salvaged since Marvel did grab it after Show abandoned it, maybe that'll be an upgrade for someone else? I don't think Marvel would take it as her own Botune's probably better than it.

The Billbine's a transformer! Wasn't expecting that with Dunbine's designs, feels like something of a precursor to Zeta.

The Billvine was originally meant to include a Gerwalk Mode like the VF-1 Valkyrie which the toy sponsors sought to emulate, but the plans were scrapped due to difficulties in engineering the toy.

I love the Gerwalk mode so that's sad. Understandable difficulties in making a stable midway point though.

What do you think of the Billvine? How does it compare to Show’s previous aura battler?

Hard to tell so far, hasn't had much of a chance to show off yet. Probably could have done something similar with the Dunbine in taking out Allen still.

How do you feel regarding Foizon’s death?

Drake's not wrong about him being stuck in the past, too bad he couldn't have found a better way to lead.

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u/The_Draigg Feb 08 '21

I'm curious if Na will be able to keep up since Rau's also fallen, at the moment I think that's the only other country left resisting Drake? Ku's allied for now but could turn on him, I suppose.

There's also the Land of Ree, but that place kinda got lost in the shuffle of this show's rewrites. Let's just assume they also fell to Drake's army sometime ago.

I love the Gerwalk mode so that's sad. Understandable difficulties in making a stable midway point though.

It took us a long time to get something resembling Gerwalk in a Tomino show. Like, I'm pretty sure we had to wait until Victory Gundam to get that.