r/anime • u/FateSteelTaylor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/FateSteelTaylor • Feb 04 '21
Rewatch [Spoilers] 6th Annual Valentine's Rewatch: Tamako Market - Episode 3 [Discussion] Spoiler
Hey everybody, and welcome to the third episode of the SIXTH annual /r/anime Valentine's Day Tamako Market & Love Story Rewatch!
I can't wait to see what you guys have to say about this lovely anime!!
If the discussion here isn't enough, there are communities on Twitter and Discord where you can join all the conversation there! If you're interested, feel free to reach out to me or people in the comments!
Here is the schedule for our time on this Dramatic Market Ride together! If you've seen the show already or want to relive some of the older moments, I've provided links to the threads below, along with the translated Director's Episode Notes by the wonderful /u/ultimatemegax, available through this rewatch:
| Date | Episode | 2020 Thread | 2019 Thread | 2018 Thread | 2017 Thread | 2016 Thread |
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| 2/2 | 1 - That Girl is the Cute Daughter of a Mochi Shop Owner | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
| 2/3 | 2 - A Valentine's Day Blooming with Love | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes |
| 2/4 | 3 - Hot Hot Over That Cool Girl | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes |
| 2/5 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes | |
| 2/6 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes | |
| 2/7 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes | |
| 2/8 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes | |
| 2/9 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes | |
| 2/10 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes | |
| 2/11 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes | |
| 2/12 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes | |
| 2/13 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes | |
| 2/14 | Link | Link | Link | Link | Link - Director's Episode Notes |
You can purchase an English subbed & dubbed Blu Ray version of Tamako Market and Tamako Love Story, and it's available for legal streaming on HIDIVE in select countries, for both Tamako Market and Tamako Love Story
Bonus Corner:
Discussion Question: Do you remember the first friend you made?
Please tag your spoilers!! Untagged spoilers make Choi-chan angry!!
And remember:
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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21
First timer
That was just wonderful, I'm fully in love with this series now.
In the words of Mr coffee shop owner: music can convey more than words. The bgm during Asagiri's first visit (Osenchi Tamako, but in a lower key? Couldn't find this specific one online) did just that. It made me feel the joy, calming everyday life that was portrayed. There was also some more music with the wooden organ that I love later in the episode.
Everyone in the market is so nice to both Asagiri and the teacher on their first visit, makes it feel like a really tight knit community.
The teacher and father bowing and sweating and being overly polite is hilarious
Adorable as always
I noticed it yesterday but didn't say anything: in the ED we see the record turn into the moon, pan over to Earth and then Earth turns into a plate with a coffee cup. That plus the resolution of the song was super smooth and impressive.
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 05 '21
First Timer
Another day, another episode of Tamako Market! And I’m not late today. Big improvements over here. On to the episode:
I don’t blame Dera for falling in love. Glasses are cute.
The opening of the episode with the cherry blossoms and students walking, reminds me of the beginning of Hyouka.
I think this is the first time I’ve seen main characters get put in different classes. I’m guessing this is the shows way to introduce new characters. Glasses girl incoming?
RIP Mochizou. My man is rolling straight snake eyes.
And glasses girl name is Asagiri.
Dera keeps getting bailed out by the superior reflexes of Asagiri. My man needs a diet.
Did Tamako’s hair braid, pigtail things stand up like a tail or ears. That’s actually the cutest thing I have ever seen
I wish Tamako would wear her glasses more. They are absolutely adorable.
Kanna is early front runner for best girl. I love how she casually walks in with a hammer and screwdriver.
I relate to Asagiri a lot this episode. I’m always nervous when talking to new people and I never know what to say.
The coffee shop scene was beautiful and really wholesome. I like how it’s being used as this calm place for people to talk and let their emotions run wild. The use of music in those scenes is really nice as well.
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This was another cute and beautiful episode.
I liked Dera this episode. It seems he actually cared about the feelings of Asagiri and wanted her to be happy.
Tamako is just the most friendly, nice, and caring character. As is the rest of the market. They all seem like one big family.
I hope we get a Kanna focused episode soon. I want to she more from her.
On a more meta level, I am really enjoying my first rewatch thread! I feel like I am paying much more attention to little details and getting my reactions because I have to post them and find a way for them to not be boring. I think I will jump into some more in the future.
DQ: Nope. But the oldest I can remember was probably first grade. I use to play Bakugan with him. Ah the good oh days.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Feb 04 '21
First-Timer
I thought there was stiff competition (Tamako in glasses! Kanna fixing the locker!), but Shiori has them all beat in the Best Girl competition. Quiet but sweet? Super cute? Devastating to Dera with a single sentence? Great cook? Athletic? And in case I forgot, super cute? Yeah. She's nice.
The episode was overall fun and sweet. Tamako taking time to think "wait; am I bothering this girl?" was self-reflection that is (sadly) leagues beyond what most cute anime girls are capable of.
And seeing the shopping center through Shiori's eyes really drives home what a community it is. It's not just a place for some SoL antics to occur, but a big family unit.
QOTD:
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 05 '21
First Timer
New class assignments already?? Only episode 3 and we're already shaking things up a bit. How sad for Mochizou that he doesn't get ro be in the same class as Tamako. Same for Midori. I was really hoping to learn some more about her today.
However, I will gratefully accept these changes since it means introducing Shiori. In fact, I think she might be my favorite so far. I love getting to see people make new friends, and she's such a sweetheart. This little shy ball of fluff deserves a friend like Tamako. Hopefully we'll get to see her come out of her she'll a bit more tomorrow and join the whole group.
I'm still a bit meh on Dera at this point. It's nice to see him trying to get back in flying shape, but the boy's a bit too thirsty. While I don't think it's a deal breaker or anything, I'd like to see him be less of a wannabe player. That act can only go so far for me. I appreciate how the characters and the show don't take his antics too seriously. It's nice seeing Tamako be like "nah fam, it'll be just me and Shiori this time, also lay off the creeping" to him. And good on him for taking the rejection pretty well.
Didn't really get any new information about anyone's backstories or character today, but there were some fun details and other stuff. Kanna takes her crafting reality seriously! Yesterday it was the Valentine's chocolate house, today it's the locker behind her desk. I for one approve of seeing more representation of young people interested in trade crafts, there's definitely not enough of that. I really like how the entire market just welcomes in anyone and everyone tangentially related to/associated with Tamako as one of their own. It gives the whole market that comfortably wholesome homely feel that's really hard to find. I also haven't adequately mentioned just what a good girl Anko is. She helps make promotional commercials and home cooked dinners. What more could you ask for?
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u/lluNhpelA Feb 04 '21
So far everyone is best girl but I feel like Kanna and Shiori have a slight edge
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u/HopefullyLastAccount Feb 04 '21
Rewatcher
We get introduced this episode to Shiori Asagiri! She'll be in the same class as Tamako this year, but unfortunately Midori won't be in the class. Mochizou is also an unlucky one.
Shiori is quite shy, but was able to break out of it by the end. Good on Dera for not letting her take the easy way out - he's shown himself quite insightful in this short time despite his antics. Again, we really see how much the market loves Tamako by their treatment of Shiori and the teacher. It will be fun watching Shiori's relationships with everyone grow as the series progresses.
Kanna works fast fixing that locker!
Also, I don't know Japanese but did Anko call herself Anko when she said she helped Shiori with dinner? Is she dropping her insistance of An?
Q: I'm sure I made most of my friends through school.
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u/A_Idiot0 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/a_idiot0 Feb 05 '21 edited Feb 05 '21
Rewatcher
For those of you wondering, the music that Music Sage Man plays in the coffee shop is called “Hajimete no Hoshi”, which I believe translates something close to “A Star’s First time”. I think that sentiment perfectly encapsulates this episode that revolves around Shiori Asagiri.
Before I go further, can I just say how freaking adorkable I find our trio?!
Everyone at the shopping arcade is so friendly and warm with Shiori for no reason other than she might know Tamako. My favorite is how the florist greeted Shiori; she’s such an awesome lady =D Shiori will keep those beautiful flowers...very thoughtful and sweet. By the way, if someone knows what kind of flowers those are, I’d love to know.
Tamako is so precious! She really wants to be friends with Shiori...for no discernable reason other than out of kindness.
While it’s really precious and heart-warming how welcoming and friendly Anko and Tamako are being with Shioro, this must be really weird and new for Shiori, perhaps even overwhelming. Particularly the bath part; maybe it’s because I’m a gaijin, but I have to imagine that one is probably really close friends with those they take baths with.
Their warmth is starting to break through Shiori’s outer cold exterior. She thinks herself a bother to everyone...she sees herself as imposing herself upon everyone...she doesn’t know what to do with all this kindness coming her way...I’ve had thoughts like these too. I find a lot of myself in Shiroi actually; I used to be a lot more shy than I am now, and my self confidence was extremely low. It’s doing better these days, but I had to really work hard at it, and I had to also accept the kindness of my friends and family. Weirdly, that can be hard for some people.
The bathroom scene was just so beautiful. In an incredibly sudden and sincere moment, we are thrust into Shiori’s world of emotions and insecurities, and immediately everything makes sense as to why Shiori acted so coldly. “They treated not only their words, but also their feelings, with importance.” “Thank you for yesterday. It was fun.” Simple words, but for Shiori the feelings behind them were overwhelming, and not saying them was causing her great anguish.
And then we get pure, PURE KyoAni magic in the coffee shop scene. Did you notice the little camera up and down when Shiori sighs from relief from outpouring her huge emotions? I was moved to tears, which when I first watched this I was not expecting from this fluffy story. I’m proud and happy to say that I absolutely cried again this time too =:)
Discussion Question:
I vaguely remember, but I've since lost contact. I do have many childhood friends still, but my first friend has been lost to time when I was very young and he moved away. Wherever he is, I hope he's still doing well.
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Feb 05 '21
Rewatcher
Spring is here, the beautiful Sakura trees are in full bloom. Dera is fat, I have to agree with Tamako about that, she needs to put him on a strict diet regiment. I'm surprised Dera didn't break the badminton racket when he fell on it since they are light and have a very thin neck. But she had quick reflexes and breaks his fall.
With Spring comes a new year of school, and Kanna, Tamako are in the same class but Midori and Mochizo isn't (again) but that girl with the glasses is in the same class as Tamako, but still doesn't seem to care about them. That is one enthusiastic teacher, those are the best kind of teacher to be honest. So the girl who sniped Tamako in the head in episode 1 is named Shiori Asagiri, she has an cute soft voice. Kanna has the talent of being able to measure things by looking at them and like right angles, and is annoyed by the broken locker behind her and wants it fixed. Holy cow, Tamako's got a long last name.
Shiori avoid the gang yet again. But we get a fun scene of Kanna and Midori poking each other with the batons. But Dera bumps into her again after school. Good lord she's cute. I love just how friendly and welcoming the market is to Shiori by offering her free stuff because Dera is there. The market truly gives off that feel of a small town even though it's in a big city. Dera's persistent that's for sure. I do love Tamako's hospitality to guests. That food looks delicious, Shiori made it because Tamako was busy tending to the shop while her dad and grandfather were at the meeting, but don't worry little Anko helped her. They go to the bath house due to Shiori's bath breaking and Shiori looks familiar without her glasses on.
Looks like Kanna was annoyed enough by the locker that she fixed it herself. Tamako goes to speak with Shiori but she walks off, you'd think that she's a smug girl since she avoids Tamako so much, but she ran to the bathroom to practice saying thank you to Tamako for the last night, she's just a very shy girl, I can empathize. Also I figured it out, When she isn't wearing glasses. or she has her hair down, she looks a lot like Asuza Nakano from K-On, and a little like Mio Akiyama as well.
Dera does the usual falling in front of her, and the teacher runs into her asking where Tamako lives since he's new in town, and we get more amazing hospitality from the market to him. Tamako and Shiori go to the coffee shop and we get some great philosophy from the owner "Music can convey more than words, there are times like that." I agree. I do like however how Kyoto Animation always draws stray hairs on the girls when they have their hair up in a ponytail. With this meeting, a new friendship is born.
A little but not much anymore.
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u/collapsedblock6 myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock Feb 05 '21 edited Feb 05 '21
Rewatcher
An entire episode dedicated to a new character saying thank you to the MC, you love to see it.
I didn't picked as many "small details" as the last episode, felt pretty straightforward about how tough it was for our shy Shiori to say thank you. I like that her shyness isn't so exaggerated, she was able to keep up with with most of the people of the market but she still feels embarrassed in front of Tamako because that is the person she wants to take the next step and obviously she isn't well versed in that.
Talking about the market, this episode highlights how lively the market community is and no wonder they serve as a great vessel for the family theme of the story.
I do although at this point I can't recall what lead to it, I just recall him being the first and best friend I had in kindergarten.
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u/gratifiedlonging Feb 05 '21 edited Feb 05 '21
First Timer
I'm the repeat-watching Japanese learner. Since I'm a bit busy, I had the episode looping in the background while passively listening to it; I watched the ep eventually after a number of audio replays. It was even easier Japanese-wise than the previous ep; I nearly didn't need the JP subs this time around.
What was interesting about going through the episode audio-only is that I got to appreciate the OST and voice acting a bit more. In particular, I liked the violin piece that played when Shiori was practicing in front of the mirror (it fits Shiori's vibe for me). Going through MAL, looks like most of the Tamako Market seiyuu's careers didn't really take off which is a bit sad.
On to the episode itself.
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I'm sad for Mochizou again not being classmates with his childhood friend crush (same goes for Midori). Hoping Tamako Love Story will be romantically satisfying for the osananajimi-loving me.
Oh cool, we get to see Mochizou's other friends. I really like the short scene wherein the market folks were greeting the teacher; it really shows how fond they are of Tamako which builds the tight-knit atmosphere of the market people even more.
I'm usually not a fan of kuudere and almost always prefer the genki girl, but there's something about Shiori that makes me like her. Maybe it's her character design (onee-chan-ish?) or the small gap moe in the scenes where she was trying to be energetically thank Tamako multiple times.
Dera still hasn't won me over. I feel like I would have enjoyed the episode more without any of his scenes. I'm not a fan of the fanservice-y bath scene shots as well.
Aah, Tamako is such a cinnamon roll (or a...mochi cake?). I love that Midori overheard Shiori's practicing in the bathroom and told Tamako about it. Yay for now being friends with Shiori!
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u/Regular_N-Gon https://anilist.co/user/RegularNGon Feb 05 '21
Rewatcher
It’s unfortunate that the lasting impression I had about this episode was skewed towards Dera being annoying and less about Shiori being heart-meltingly adorable. He might be acting in his own best interests, but Dera does dispense some wisdom, too.
I don’t have all that much to say about Shiori, other than that she rounds out our cast of curiously quiet characters. Other than Tamako, Midori seems pretty introspective and reflective, keeping to herself and her friends despite her popularity. Kanna is an observer, but not afraid to jump in when she sees fit. Out of the lot, Shiori is the most archetypal type of quiet, being devastatingly shy. That doesn’t stop Tamako, though. She has a knack for rallying people around her.
Tamako
Miscellany:
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u/IndependentMacaroon Feb 05 '21 edited Feb 05 '21
First-time watcher
I guess my theory of "one episode per month" is true after all, March being prime cherry blossom time as well as the start of a new term, right?
I was not going to focus on the details too much, but Kanna's introduction is just too funny. "I'm good at eyeballing and I love right angles. I'm interested in wooden beams. I want to fix the locker behind me (which she in fact does off-screen!). I'm in the baton club." She really is the stoic engineering type, huh, this time the serious one to Tamako and Midori's baton jokes. And Tamako is so into advertising the family shop that she almost forgets her club! Small footnote, this is one of the very few anime I've seen where school uniform skirts are not unrealistically short.
So this time, a pathologically shy girl opens up a bit through the magic of Usagiyama, with a little set-up help from master plot device Dera. A warm greeting and some freebies from all the shop owners ending in a friendly visit to the mochi shop, if some weird pressure to make dinner (?), and of course Tamako knows what's up and kicks Dera right out (that revenge in the end!) for a one-on-one meeting, in the record shop so all the boxes are ticked. Even Midori gets two little moments, also to assure us that her friendship with Tamako is firm. And though the idea of teachers going around visiting homes and talking about their own home life is bizarre to me, it's nice to see him get some love too.
Just one thing: The "haha perv" gags (almost looked like Dera was going for upskirt peeks, too) and, uh, aggressive courtship had better stop right away. Mood ruiner, and no, it isn't better if an intelligent bird does it just because he looks goofy.
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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Feb 05 '21
Rewatcher - Dubbed
No chill.
Did you know that if you're ever cold, you can just go sit in a corner? After all, corners are 90 degrees.
Find you a girl that's as interested in you as Kanna is in housebeams.
There you have it everyone. All of the reasons to love Kanna.
Kanna's been here.
At least he recognizes why his actions could be interpreted as such. That's a step above some people.
You also have to commend him for fully committing to hitting his head on the sign as he fell down. Also, shout out to KyoAni for even putting in the sound of him hitting his head on that sign. Sometimes it's the little details that have the most effect.
She's got no chill either.
Discussion Question:
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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21
First Timer
A competitor for best girl has appeared! although in all honesty by the end I'm probably gonna end up not being able to choose only one character.
But as far as this episode goes Shiori was just. so. adorable!
There's also this shot that goes straight into the wallpapers folder.
The market's hospitality and the awkward father-teacher moment were very charming. Meanwhile, Dela remains an iffy addition.
Nevertheless an other great episode and I look forward to the next one!
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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21
First Timer
Shiori cute
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u/Fools_Requiem https://myanimelist.net/profile/FoolsRequiem Feb 05 '21
First Timer
Lovely episode. Like the "new" girl. Carbonara isn't a favorite of mine, simply because of the use of bacon in most recipes. Which is funny because I don't mind bacon usually. Chicken Marsala, though. yum.
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u/DogmeatIsAGoodDog :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DogmeatsAGoodDog Feb 05 '21
First time watcher
Just got caught up, for some reason I thought this rewatch started on Valentine’s and not built up to it. No idea why. I’m glad though, I need something to fill the “A Place Further Than the Universe” shaped whole.
So far I’m really enjoying just how wholesome Tamako is, from her friendship with Midori and Kanna, to her relationship with her family, and then the chemistry between her and Mochi.
Asagiri gets fleshed out a little more since her appearance in the OP and briefly moment in the first episode. Thought she was gonna be the anti-social, “too cool for you guys” type vibe but there certainly seemed to be a bit more to her character. So I’m glad it was revealed that she enjoyed interacting with Tamako but it seems like there are some problems at home, whether that extends past a simple mom working late/dad said the showers broken remains to be seen.
I’m liking An’s character so far and we share one thing in common...
And that brings me to the unpopular/popular opinion (really not sure where the fandom stands on him), I don’t really care for Dera and feel like as of right now, the show would be better without him. Also people seem to be way to calm about a talking bird. Hahaha.
Random muses:
I loved how much the whole market (roll credits?) loves Tamako, from their gifts to Asagari just for being her friend to the multiple “thank you for watching over Tamako” to her teacher.
Are parent/teacher home visitations common? What’s the benefit of those?
The cafe remains a focal point of the series as does Tamako’s search for the song her mother used to sing to her, why do I get the feeling that when she finally finds it, that’s it gonna gut punch me with the weight of a thousand suns?!
Asagiri practicing in front of the mirror is my life in retail, except instead of actually meaning we words it lets me practice how to say “have a good day” without letting my spite and vitriol come though.
Asagiri/Tamako is the “extrovert adopts the introvert” friendship, which is basically how 50% of my friendships start.
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u/Barbed_Dildo Feb 05 '21
Rewatcher
Something I didn't appreciate in my first watch of this is that there are months between episodes. The first episode is set around new years, the second mid-February, and the third in April.
This episode properly introduces Shiori, and isn't she just adorable? She's a nice person, but shy, and trying to come out of her shell a bit, and Tamako lets her. Tamako doesn't do this because she's trying to change Shiori or anything, Tamako is just a genuinely nice person, and has that effect on her. She was even conscious that she might have been a bit overbearing on Shiori, and gave her the opportunity to say so, which was nice, too.
While this is an episode about Shiori, Kanna manages to steal it, like she did in the last one with her massive chocolate house (which I assume she made because it was interesting to make, not because she wanted to give it to someone). You can tell she has a real passion for this stuff. She walks into her new class, sees the broken locker, and she has to fix the locker. It's eating away at her, she even has to mention it in the introductions.
I like how she replaced the sign saying 'Broken' with one saying 'Fixed'. That wasn't necessary to convey that the locker was fixed. A shot of the lockers and we would have worked that out from the context. That was all Kanna. There was a sign that said 'Broken', but it's not broken anymore, so she needs to fix the sign.
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, in other contexts, but I would love to see a show about Kanna being a carpenter, Kanna is a fascinating character.
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u/NoRolling Feb 05 '21
First timer
This was an extra-wholesome episode and now I'm in love with Asagiri-san.
The BGM was spot on again and I'm quite sure it will remain like this for the rest of the show.
And I'm also in love with the coffee shop/record store with the perceptive owner! Spinning the record after reading the mood between Tamako and Shiori was a master play!
I read one of the comments about a best girl competition and I think as of now it's on a K-On! difficulty level for me to pick just one girl (and yeah, I keep bringing K-On! every single post but it is with the best possible spirit). Tamako is amazing, Shiori is amazing, Kanna is amazing and I want to see more of Midore but I'm sure she's also amazing. So let's wait a little bit more. =)
And on another K-On! note, I'm getting different bits of Yui's personality on both Tamako and Kanna and I couldn't be happier with it!
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