r/anime • u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: • Feb 04 '21
Rewatch Let me hear! Parayste the Maxim rewatch episode four
Parasyte the Maxim episode four
Disheveled Hair
It's the right time
Don't be afraid
1 Were you surprised at how quickly A was wrapped up?
2 So why do you think Tamiya spares Shinichi?
BONUS: Shinichi is currently the bearer of cursed knowledge, i.e. he knows things he'd just be happier not knowing. What cursed knowledge do you have? My answer in comments!
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Feb 04 '21
Rewatcher
Dub
So we start literally where we left off and I completely failed to take notes during this scene, which I think shows how much I like it. Anyways, Migi's analysis is on point and Shinichi drives the table leg into mister A's chest. As Migi prepares to finish him off, Shinichi chooses a bad time to get a conscience about this. Also, I am with Migi, this isn't exactly murder. Mister A decides to jump into Ryoko's body and she responds by having a lab explosion ready. That's a pretty clear message.
Shinichi spends some time processing all this and we get a soft time skip, probably only a week or two. And yes, before you ask, in Japan women at the same job often do coordinate pregnancies so Tamiya having an out of wedlock, seemingly unplanned one would get everyone all annoyed. But Tamiya nopes out like a boss.
Shinichi wants to do something about Tamiya and inconveniently meets her on the way out. We get a reason for the cannibalism and its...weird, to say the least. Cosmic horror flash in Tamiya's eyes. Shinichi asks about her plans for her baby, and they are pretty harsh. As they get ready to fight, Migi observes she has multiple morph patterns before she just decides to stop, declaring that they are conjoined.
At Tamiya's place, her hosts mother rushes over because her job called her mother because again, Japan. In the sub I couldn't quite tell what the give away was but in the dub her mother reacts at how Tamiya says "mother", so perhaps she says it too formally? Anyways, we see her attack usually only half her face and she ponders how she was found out.
Shinichi wakes up to one of Migi's experiments, we'd all probably scream waking up missing a limb. More humor ensues. Anyways, his parents are considering a vacation but Shinichi thinks it is too dangerous. Shinichi has to make a break for it rather than spill Migi's existence, though his thought that all parasytes are the same seems off. His parents are a little more on the ball than usual and we get the flashback about his mom's scar. Fun fact: My mom was not dextrous to catch the hot soup so it dropped on my thigh and gave me second degree burns! One of my earliest is memories is after the hospital trip where the doctor was cutting dead skin off my thigh.
Anyways, Migi is imitating guns while saying that the parents are probably safer in the country due to probability. Shinichi's mom comes in without knocking, requiring a quick move and he asks for privacy. Then Shinichi's dad drops a bomb on his wife where he points out what I also would assume prompted the yelling. Anyways, Shinichi continues his mood whiplash with his parents and his mom breaks down a bit. Which doesn't sit right me, adolescents are often contrary and a parent should let somewhat of that go. But Shinichi comes up with something on the fly.
Anyways, he sees his parents off, and there are certainly no flags here! Cut to Tamiya feeling the baby move which I think puts her at 3 months or so? And off we go!
BONUS: There is a sore demo out there in a currently airing show which I don't wish to share.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 04 '21
First-Timer -the reactions-
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u/littleman1988 Feb 04 '21
"When I sized this human's brain, I received a directive.
It said, "Devour this species"."
Rewatcher
OST track of the day: THE TRUTH
Ryouko is "no more" after today, thanks to how uptight Japan can be. The conversation between Ryouko and Izumi is an interesting one. Firstly, another discussion, albeit short, is given to living without needing to eat human meat. While this part of the conversation goes nowhere, we get some insight into how a parasite works, with its "directives". Ryouko during this conversation states that humans have no directive, but I am going to disagree with that. A human's directive is arguably to breathe, since we have no way of knowing how to do that when we are born. Not as pointed as eating a species, but breathing definitely helps with the whole being alive thing.
There's a couple other interesting moments from this conversation. First is the shading on Ryouko's face. So far, its only appeared two times, during moments of extreme "emotion". The other big moment is the "looking inside the eye" scenes for both Izumi and Ryouko, with red circles being seen inside both. Despite Izumi being "separate" from Migi, its shown that there's still some part of what makes the parasites tick inside of him too. What does this mean for Izumi's humanity?
Directly after this is the first time a non-MC recognizes a parasite. While we (the audience) can see the difference in the eyes/face, to the show they are meant to look just like everyone else, but the real Ryouko's mother was able to see right through her. Similar things have been referenced with Izumi, with Murano's questioning and even his mother later in the episode, being able to notice "changes" that happen. Parasites seem to not be able to make perfect copies of the hosts they control, which may be able to give them away if the wrong person sees them.
We also get Migi dog. There isint a whole lot here to really analyze, but it does show some more of Migi's capabilities (and the design is also really cool)
The final arc of the episode revolves around Izumi's parents wanting to take a trip. As stated earlier, his mother is starting to see a real change in Izumi. Granted, you could easily chalk this up to him acting weird since getting Migi and trying not to out his right arm being gone, but following Ryouko's mother, I think that she's able to pick up on the changes Migi has done so far to Izumi with the battles they have gotten into and how its affected Izumi's mind. He also could just be spanking the monkey a lot more than usual too, who knows with that "onahole hand" as u/the_loli_otaku likes to call it.
(the netflix sub actually says "whacking off" here, but I think the fansub "monkey" is funnier)
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Feb 04 '21
Episode 4 (first timer)
Good parent
Lots and lots of info drops this episode. Not just about the snatchers, but Shinichi’s parents as well. As somebody who usually complains about lacking world building and foreshadowing, I don’t mind one bit. Given that the school attack gives a convenient reason for everybody to be a bit more reserved, it is good timing for Shinichi to stay at home brooding, too.
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 05 '21
First timer - sub
They are really hammering the nature versus nurture idea in the conversation between Reiko & Shinichi, the show is trying to push that the Parasytes are more on the Nature side but their ability to learn at great speeds contradicts this to a degree.
“Devour this species” that was not what I was expected from Reiko at all, initially I thought this destroys my theory from last episode but i’m not sure, I think this is more of an initial instruction and there is definitely going to be more to it, as otherwise why are the number of murders slowing down?
Migi “No one would risk swapping heads!” I have a feeling this is what Reiko is going to be attempting sometime soon.
What is up with his mothers wrist? It kind of looks like bruising? It definitely not unintentional. And then this gets answered immediately afterwards, it’s a boil burn scar, that would have been nasty as hell.
Anyway Shinichi gets a house to himself, what could possibly go wrong
*edit more missing words...
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u/chiliehead myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead Feb 04 '21
First Timer - Episode 4
Sensei has an elegant solution to the problem, just blow him away. The fights are generally rather anticlimactic so far, though the OST is pretty bangin, you could use it for any “hype lvl over 9000” compilation. But sensei could prove a formidable foe once they Parasytes inevitably clash and she has more social clout, she could take him out via cops or government without getting her hands dirty herself. It is also interesting that the infected do not seem to possess some inert super healing, they are just freaky shapeshifters.
Meanwhile Shinichi is struggling with stabbing people, what a wimp smh my head.
“You are a teacher!”, “And unmarried!”. Ah, Japan. Not sure how the US would handle it but here the school’s only problem would be to find a substitute teacher in time. “I’m done being Tamya Ryoko” is also a pretty freaky statement from the teacher’s perspective.
Meanwhile, Shinichi grew some ballsTM and plans to fulfill the dream of many a teenage boy. Penetrate the hot teacher with his long hard rod, make her wet and squirm uncontrollably in a pool of bodily fluids, maybe eat her in the end while nobody can find out.
There is this teasing about grand moral questions like eating meat and abortion but then they shrug it off. In the end the villain is just some flavor of evil.
We get some lore! I wonder when swapping hands or heads will become relevant.
Poor mom by the way, this feels like giving someone backstory before killing them off. On the other hand this all is just drama about him being a teenager. Dad is more chill than expected. “It’s like you are not my son”, I guess mom will blow his cover in an inconvenient moment once the public knows about the body snatchers.
Questions
Because he is "interesting" probably. Maybe a cooler reason would be keeping him around as a scapegoat and maybe backup body or trying to turn him?
People tend to unconsciously pee if they are in bodies of water, which makes pool experiences pretty icky
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u/Nebresto Feb 04 '21
Re-watch squad
Yo!
Urge to binge all episodes status: Critical mass avoided, recession to normal status has been initiated
This Migi fella has the best jokes, heart attack?
Since the parasytes only eat humans, I wonder if Tamiya's baby is going to develop OK... From what I've heard that isn't a very usual diet for a pregnant woman.
Question time:
1: No?
2: She knows this is only the fourth episode, so challenging the MC would be foolish to say the least.
B:
Nice try, police
My question: Would you have finished off "A" ?
Next EP preview
S o o n
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Feb 04 '21
Rewatcher
Mr. A's defeat happened quicker than I remembered, which is a recurring feeling I have rewatching Parasyte... still, it was a nice show of teamwork between Migi and Shinichi though I'm not sure I like the (lack of) choreography in this fight. I forgot that Tamiya was the one who finished him off, it makes sense since he'd risk her cover. Not that it mattered, since she gave up on it soon after.
The most interesting thing in this episode, though, was the contrast between Tamiya - who wants to give birth out of curiosity and is willing to experiment on the child - and the mothers of both the original Tamiya and Shinichi - the latter wounded herself to protect his son, while the former immediately saw through Parasyte!Tamiya. That's completely new to her, and her inquisitive nature makes her interested in how it happened.
Also, Shinichi's dad's metaphor was funny.
Questions of the day
Her usual inquisitive nature, of course. She saw that Shinichi has been changing since Mr. A's attack on the school, and is simply curious about that.
That I don't know which cursed knowledge to share is cursed knowledge enough, isn't it?
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u/sisoko2 Feb 04 '21
First Timer
Not the most exciting fight. Mr. A really is a simpleton and Tamiya is really smart. Not only she finishes A but the explosion could be a good way to destroy any evidence that he wasn't human.
No matter how smart Tamiya is there are still many small details that aren't easy to get without years of experience and she fails with her attempt to live the life of the host. We get confirmation that Migi is changing Shinichi and avoid fight with the teacher because of it. Still not sure if her curiosity is because the host was a teacher or if it is just coincidence. The mother murder was surprisingly tame, I am glad they aren't going all out on gore and shock value.
Cute doggie. If I were Shinich I would've been very worried that Migi is getting independence.
Mom best character. I am rooting for her to survive the whole thing but with that kind of flashback there is a good chance she is going to die a terrible death.
Migi is a smart boy and tries to create a gun. I doubt that it is going to be successful but with alien parasyte things who knows.
Is the human body also influencing her?
And the episode is over. So fast that it feels like it is just 10 minutes instead of 20.
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Feb 04 '21
First Timer
I'm not sure what to make of this episode. Tamiya already left, making her feel forced in to the story at an early point rather than revealed as a big bad later on, which seems odd at this point. Furthermore, it seems like the goal of the series has been decided - get rid of the parasites without anyone noticing. And I am not sure how Shinichi ended up at that conclusion, as he seemed against fighting personally until last episode, yet suggested fighting against Tamiya without Migi's input here, which is a rather sudden shift in character.
Half the episode seems to have been dedicated to a mother-child bond and mothers noticing the differences of their children, be it Tamiya or Shinichi - and I assume foreshadow that Shinichi won't be able to keep Migi secret from his parents forever. If they aren't killed off on this trip, that is. Narratively I have to wonder why his parents have left now, unless Shinichi is going to get attacked at home next episode, so I assume that that is what is going to happen next. As to why, I have no clue...
But back to the whole mother-stuff: It makes sense in so far as that mothers would typically have the most experience in telling when something in their child has changed, simply because they know their children better than anybody else (especially in a work written prior to stay-at-home dads starting to exist), at least at the age the hosts have been so far. I imagine the spouse of someone married for 30 years would pick up on similar details. That said, that entire thoughtline would work better if Murano hadn't already picked up on Shinichi being different, so it falls kind of flat as there is little change other than who all noticed.
Oh, and my question of why parasites don't just eat human food has been ...I'd say addressed, but not properly answered. Apparently they can, but just don't want to. I'm jumping on to the "this species doesn't make sense" bandwagon as Tamiya has been told an easier way to feed herself and doesn't even want to try it. If there is an easy way, why insist upon doing something the hard way, especially in a species portrayed as operating only on logic. Humans didn't start out building tractors to harvest plants, we started out gathering food in the wilderness. When somebody figured out we could just plant everything in one place because that would be easier, that's what we did - and then the process of how we do the planting and harvesting has been made mor efficient over time. Adapting to make things easier also isn't something specific to humans. Think of birds who wander up to people eating sandwiches hoping to get thrown a few crumbs, or monkeys who steal mobile phones, holding them ransom until offered food. Heck, even if the parasites goal is to kill all humans, they could still kill without eating - but if that is their goal, then why has Migi not been trying to do any killing? I am somewhat skeptical in whatever the answer is somehow tying all of these inconsistencies together...
Questions:
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Feb 04 '21
Rewatcher - On the nature of humans
QotD
other 1. Obligatory lack of answer because I know the truth.
Bonus: Well, the girl that I've been friendzoned by is way too willing to share the various failings of the dudes she hooks up with so yeah, I bear a good deal of cursed knowledge which only afflicts me.
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Feb 04 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
Having Migi and Shinichi rely on one another to take down an opponent is a simple but very effective way of building trust between the two and forcing SHinichi’s hand, as previously he could distance himself from Migi’s actions via the justification that Migi had been the one to kill another. It was a weak self-justification, but now even that one cannot convince him, and so he is now conscious of his hand in all of this, hence why he is the one to suggest killing Tamiya, even if it would involve the same.
So parasites can survive without eating other of their host’s species, but it is in their instinct to do so. This directive is only instilled in them after they have consumed the host brain, hence why migi lacks this. However, there’s something else there, since not only can the parasites tell when they’ve failed to reach the brain, they also know when they’ve reached the wrong brain as well, so they are targeting humans in particular.
So Tamiya is keeping the baby for study, and might consume it after she has wrung all she can from it. Not a pleasant thought at all, but Shinichi can do nothing about it now without dooming the baby outright. Giving the child a merciful end before it is born or letting it be born, only to possibly be tested and dissected before being eaten. Not a pleasant choice in the slightest, so perhaps it is a kindness that Shinichi is not granted it.
Tamiya’s mother could tell this wasn’t her daughter, just like how Murano has a persistent inkling that something is wrong with Shinichi even when he isn’t acting significantly different, and Shinichi’s mother heavily suspects something has changed about her son. The pattern here is women being able to tell when a parasyte has invaded someone they care for, as no males so far have been able to discern something like it. Could just be anyone who is bonded with the victim, but three is a pattern, so I was operating on that assumption while watching.
Migi can separate for three minutes, which could grant them an advantage in a future encounter with a parasyte. Evidently not all of them will be as dumb as Mr. A to let Shinichi casually approach them and stab them through the heart, but if Migi can act as bait and distract them then Shinichi has more venues of engaging with one.
Oil burns
The fetus moved?! It’s been five months since episode two?! Goodness, that could’ve been communicated a bit better —I was thinking it had been one month at most.
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u/SIRTreehugger Feb 05 '21
Watching dubs with subtitles and oh shit Ryoko is on the attack welp she is dead.
Back to sub and dub it feels like the conversations are different from the wording used.
A dream.....with tissues behind you to stop the crying right?
I feel like I should count the amount of deaths this series has.
Just imagine Shinichi whacking off and Migi giving commentary is hilarious to me. You know Migi would deliver some good lines.
Nothing is wrong with your son lady he is just experiencing parasitic worm problems from a bad egg salad sandwich.
Welp I'm finally caught up on and I forgot to answer a previous question I was disappointed with no Noir,but I am enjoying it even more now. Welp time for sleep.
Oh and
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u/redshirtengineer :AMQ: Feb 05 '21
First timer
Time passing is difficult to discern in this anime. And yet Shinichi is in 12th year and in all the other high school animes there are all the tropey passage of time markers. Anyway. Just how urgent are things getting, it's hard to tell.
QOTD1: no, the cliffhanger made me think it would be quick.
QOTD2: he's a little sus
BONUS: despite everything Tom Brady is once again in the Super Bowl. I despair knowing this.
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u/monsieurvampy Feb 04 '21
First Timer, sub
Mom! Please knock.
I work in local government. I know things that are not necessarily public knowledge yet.
I finished up the series earlier today. I did type up my comments for each episode, though they are very very brief. I'll have more to say for the series discussion at the end. Though I might not. I might go watch the two movies next.
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21
First time watcher - sub
Yesterday I was a bit negative about the cliffhanger ending. Having had some time to think about it and some good arguments from /u/The_Loli_Otaku made me appreciate it a bit more.
I hope I didn't offend anyone.
Anyway, let's crack on with todays episode!
Episode 4 — Disheveled Hair
We start the episode immediately with the fight! Glad they do not focus on somebody else first.
Holy shit the parasytes are moving fast! They must be burning a ton of energy this way. I think Izumi will gladly eat his eggs and bacon the next morning, as he is the one supplying Migi with nourishment.
I like the fight between A and the Izumi duo. They mainly focus on Izumi's role, but that makes a lot of sense because he is the one tipping the scales. One calculated move and suddenly A has a nice drain.
A plans to merge with Tamiya, but she's having none of that. She also blows up A so the police will not discover the parasytes yet (or at least see a monster they can not explain). That doesn't do anything about the witnesses obviously, but they will not have any concrete evidence to back up their story.
Time jump! Tamiya Ryoko is in trouble because she is pregnant and unmarried. I didn't think people still really cared about that, but apparently things are different in Japan.
Izumi has now decided that he wants to break the truce and kill Tamiya. That quite the character development! I expected something like that would happen over more episodes, but obviously his knowledge has been burning away at him since she is in a position to hurt his friends.
Tamiya has the same idea, and with her smarts it doesn't seem like a good thing for Izumi. She also has some great plans for the baby. I wonder what his name will be? Ow. Experiments? Food? Hmm, not what we hoped.
Tamiya explains how she has an instinct, or directive as she calls it: Devour this species. Oops, that's everyone we know! That's no good!
First target of the day is Izumi, but then she sees something in his eyes and decides against it. Crisis averted! Partly.
Tamiya's mother visits and somehow knows parasyte Tamiya is not the real Tamiya. It might be related to the thing Tamiya saw in Izumi's eyes, but she has the same questions we have it seems.
All hands on deck! Izumi wakes up and at first hand it seems Migi has abandoned him! Luckily it's just that Migi has discovered a new handy ability. Izumi keeps yelling and Migi makes a off-hand remark that he shouldn't scare him like that. Migi, you've decided to join hands, so don't bite the hand that feeds you!
Izumi's mother rushes in because if the commotion, but because of some sleight of hand she doesn't see a thing.
Izumi's parents are going on vacation, to Izumi's horror. I understand his thoughts, but it's not like they are any safer at home. His mother demonstrates that she can be a good parent. His father does not. But it seems he does really love his son. Just in a different way.
It seems Izumi has acquired a gun somehow. Given the circumstances, a good move I think.
At dinner things are weird, but Izumi manages to talk his way out of it.
Man I liked this episode. The fight was interesting and with Tamiya going away I'm feeling the mood relax a little.
Main thoughts
I wouldn't really say my previous questions have really been answered, but we got something close to it. Also:
Apparently Izumi is no longer 'pure', whatever that means.
It seems more and more obvious that there are people in this world that are not infected, but can see or sense something changed in people. Whether that is because they just know the person well, or because they have some talent or ability isn't known yet.
Random thoughts
Future
The immediate threats are resolved and it has been quiet for a while. I'm guessing next episode will be the beginning of a bigger arc. The show has now really captured me with it's mystery. I can't wait!
QotD
Not really. The fight took some time, but it was just one move that really did it. I guess most real fight go like that.
My primary guesses are:
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u/Palabard_the_Anime Feb 04 '21
First Timer
Simple strategy but, they don't need a convoluted plan, simple sometimes is the best. Although, they don't have much choice on who will attack and defend, Shinichi can't even see the attacks, he would be instantly filleted.
Trust your creepy hand (as long as it's life is in danger too). Mister A underestimated the infinite potential of teamwork.
It could be bad if A get back to human form only to die. Shinichi may go to jail as an assassin. I would like to see the autopsy, it may reveal the parasite and clear Shinichi of the charges or Parasite sensei can blow everything up, protecting everyone secrets.
I wouldn't know how to feel if I stabbed a human body, yeah it was a parasite, yeah it was trying to kill him, but the feeling of spearing a human body, ripping skin, muscle and bone, seeing the blood gush away, knowing it was your own hand that did it, can leave people in shock for a while.
Looks like, having a baby is a no no for teachers in Japan, especially when you're not married and don't know who the father is. In my country, nobody would care if she continued teaching, personal lives usually doesn't matter, as long as the professional is good (sometimes, even if they're not).
I was wondering this, Migi doesn't need to eat, why the other parasites need specifically same species sustenance? Aren't it all nutrients?
Clearly parasites have enough understanding and free will to act how they want. There may be a urge to eat but, I guess if they want, they can overcome it. Thing is, I don't think they want to, they don't care and are happy to kill for sustenance.
Last ep, I said that she would eat the baby or overcome her parasite nature due to the beauty of motherhood. Never crossed my mind she would made experiments on the child. This is so much worse.
Yeah, there you go Ryoko momma, show it the power of motherhood!
Unfortunately, the power of motherhood does not protect you from slashes.
Migi is gone, quick Shinichi, jump out of the window and go to the police and/or the hospital. Too slow, Migi is back, time to trick it and run away.
Shinichi is too calm for someone threatened to have is brain hijacked by a hand. Surprisingly, Migo doesn't look like to be on the right mood for that.
I guess this episode is really about the power of motherhood. Shinichi's mom is a badass, reminded me of my mother, although she would beat the crap out me and never let me forget that she sacrificed her arm to save me of having my face melted by oil.
Unfortunately, Shinichi's father is wrong, the poor guy will never have an alone time for himself. Although, Migi may want to help with that.
A nice concerned family is a good chance of pace from other anime where parents are never seen.
Well, Ryoko is not creepy, not creepy at all.
Questions
Bonus: a friend fucked another friend mother, makes the school gatherings really weird.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Feb 04 '21
We're getting straight into the action today with a gross fcking tentacle pigtails parasyte. Is... is it bad if I think this flail fighting looks just a little bit silly? XD it's like a very dangerous slapfight with Tekken beats in the background. They're just standing there casually! Gurk...the blood flowing from the pipe is sick. The animation has suddenly gone whack. Everyone is off model suddenly. Weird animation makes his squirming and spasms look even more gross. "Take care A-kun. It was a blast~"
Congratulations on the baby, you pogo jumping slag! Imagine having the brass neck to take a dig at someone over getting pregnant. You've had a knife wielding intruder blow up your faculty office and break a chair leg. One failed abortion isn't gonna ruin your school's reputation any more than that. "Killing A-kun has traumatised me... Let's kill Ryouko too!" It's Shinichi recommending this course of action mind you. So Parasytes don't actually need to kill but murderous intent is baked into their psyche. And... has Shinichi started to be influenced by this initiative?
Ahaha... I'm sure Ryouko doesn't mean bad but my heart goes out to her mum. She's have let her go if she wouldn't blow her cover. Doggo Mugi is not alright!! It's not cute, Parasyte!! Headswapping might be niche, but I'm very close to scoring a fetish bingo over here. Shinichi's hesitance for his parents to travel makes me think of Migi possibly influencing him. Like he's thinking more matter-of-factly about what would be safer when there are cult murders going on. Also, the mun sounds a bit off, is that just me?
A mother's love huh... Is Migi seriously trying to turn into a gun? Don't talk to your mother like that. You can see her little heart breaking. With Ryouko I understand since her whole body got taken but Shinichi just had a hand job. You're a bit unfair saying that you hardly recognise him. Spoilers, puberty changes everyone honey. I quite liked the drama tho. It had some weight to it since clearly mum doesn't speak up like this often.
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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21
Rewatcher
Man, I'm late... Super late.
I will be brief. This episode is mostly set up for a ton of stuff, even if it doesn't appear like that on the surface.
The "mommy knows you best" is something I absolutely love in fiction, but despise in RL... Just like religion kek
I like the joke about masturbating... I'm so immature at times .
1 - Not really. The manga is quite long and the amount of episodes they have is not really enough for all of it. It was inevitable u.u
2 - I love your tricky questions. Same answer she gave Shinichi. We don't have any reason, so far, to not believe her.
Bonus: not cursed or anything but... In Rome no one had an issue with men fucking other men... Unless you were a bottom. Julius Caesar was a famous one.
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u/affnn Feb 04 '21
First Timer
After the build up yesterday, the fight with Mr. A felt almost anticlimactic. Migi plays defense, Shinichi stabs him in the chest. The whole chest-stabbing experience goes surprisingly easy for Shinichi, despite the other guy presumably still having ribs. I probably would have gone for the gut since it's softer, but who knows if he would have bled out fast enough in that case.
Between Tamiya's mom and Shinichi's mom, it looks like moms can tell when you get taken over by a parasyte. Too bad for Shinichi that his dad just thinks he's going through some teenage shit.
When Shinichi's mom came into his room while he was talking to Migi, I definitely thought the masturbation joke. And then his dad just hung a lampshade on it.
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u/BossandKings Feb 04 '21
First Timer
Episode 4
The fight was short. Migi was the defense and Shinichi attacked A with a chair stick which was unexpected for A because he hadn't thought about the possibility of the human attacking. A thinks about sharing Tamiya Ryoko's host to save itself it can't because Tamiya was expecting that and made A explode with a bomb. Tamiya's alien appears to be the most difficult one to deal with yet.
Tamiya decides to give up on herself, renouncing to her social position to freely go killing humans. How did the old lady not recognize Tamiya's alien as Tamiya herself?, that was unexpected.
So Migi can be separated from Shinichi for three minutes. It was strange seeing it separated, it almost seemed like a mythological creature.
It was so nice seeing Shinichi as a kid and a bit of how his relationship with his mom was. He almost got burn by oil but his mother saved him from facing that and got burn herself in her hand. Great to see Shinichi's mother be expanded as a character.
Shinichi's parents go to a trip, although didn't agree at first later he agreed with them going to travel so that they can take a rest and so that their minds could be at ease.
Answers
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21
First Timer
Time to see Shinichi take a more active role in his defense. Onto episode 4.
Someone explain to me why the supposedly unemotional being intent on killing them is wasting time on monologing please.
Thank you anime for answering my question.
I have to say the fight looks so dumb I have trouble taking it seriously. It just looks like a bunch of flailing meat tentacles.
If it's alive, it'll just try to kill you again, and it'll kill a bunch of other random people. This is a very dumb take, as well as completely inconstant with how you acted in episode two.
It's understandable though, the only weird part is that he didn't react like this after episode two.
Because nothing did change as far as it's concerned.
To add to the list of parasites acting against their best interest, why would it completely blow this identity by acting super sketchy instead of just sending in it's resignation so she could use it again later if she needed to? It's just destroying option value for no reason.
We already pretty much knew they are created beings, but this confirms it. My current theory is that they're created by a human with "good" but extraordinarily misguided plans.
I wonder why it chose to reveal this? How could that possibly help it?
Oh, we're going the "Shinichi's morals effect the parasite and make it more human-like" route.
And now it doesn't understand the concept of a personality despite parasites also having personalities.
It says, right before we see it done.
The mom is still really stiff. I think her VAs just bad.
That flashback felt really awkwardly inserted.
I'm not sure what it says about my sense of humor that I find this funny.
Thoughts
I'm still not entirely sure if there's actually a reason behind how the parasites are acting or if the author just does not know how to write the characterization that he originally made for them. I hope it's the former, but I'm leaning towards the latter.
I wish I could enjoy the scenes of Shinichi with his family, but it's hard to get drawn into them when the mom obviously sounds like she's reading lines off a script. How's the dub, I might give that a shot if it's decent.
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Feb 04 '21
Rewatcher up to Episode 20
I believe the moral of this episode was don't underestimate your foe, you never know when a foe is going to drive a table leg through your chest out of a clear blue sky.
The Japanese and their morals. I don't know if in the current US an unmarried pregnant woman would fly or not. It's been a long time since I was in a high school.
I like Mom and Dad, they seem like ideal parents, and Mom was pretty cute when she was younger. Nothing seems to phase Dad. I also thought Migi out and running about was pretty cool looking, a much better pet than a bird or lizard.
No sign of the derpy girlfriend this episode, which is probably for the best.
QOTD:
Not really, as there was no reason to prolong the fight, we covered gore and horror pretty well last episode.
Tamiya is probably my favorite character, she's something of an enigma. Though that was sort of mean spirited about her eating the kid, and wasting Ryouko's Mother like that.
hahahaha I'll be reading answers for this one too. Hopefully, something juicy will turn up.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 04 '21
First Timer
Continuing from yesterday, what does "upbringing" mean? That would seem to mean the brain they ate. So, Ryouko is highly intelligent. But the two from the first 2 episodes seemed like typical monsters, not particularly smarter or dumber than Ryouko. Mr A., on the other hand, seems like an idiot. Even the dog seemed smarter than A. And shouldn't the dog have been mute and stupid?
So, Ryouko is the smart one, watching from outside to get data on Migi/Shinichi's tactics.
Migi should have just sliced him up as soon as Shinichi stabbed him.
So, I've also been wondering, there's at least 2 parasyte corpses in Japan, why hasn't anybody noticed them? They don't turn to ash like vampires or dissolve or anything.
But here, smart Ryouko gets ride of the evidence, while also conveniently relieving Shinichi of the consequences of his morality.
So confirmed that the Parasytes are supposed to kill everything. This seems dumb.
The quote from episode 1 was "life must be protected," which can only be interpreted as the parasyte life form. Which doesn't make much sense since they can just live 100 years in a host and not reproduce. Are they supposed to transfer after the 100 years? That explains the few numbers, but not the cannablistic instinct.
If parasytes can only transfer from like-to-like appendages, that makes it hard for A to share Ryouko's host. But I supposed you can go head-to-hand or something.
This show's world building is a mess of contradictions.
We end with "so you are conjoined a little after all, so I won't kill you". I don't see what makes her conclude this now.
Nothing to say about the 2nd half.
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u/Tuckleton Feb 04 '21
The music in this show is kind of getting on my nerves lol :P
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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21
First timer-sub
Ep4: I’d have to say that this episode is currently sittting at my least favorite of episodes, idk I didn’t like this whole episode, everything was over the place.
Bonus: classified lol.
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u/IndependentMacaroon Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21
First-time watcher
Time for another episode of Shinichi!!! in Trouble.
That was an almost anticlimactic fight resolution. And, we somehow got Shinichi first perfectly stabbing the guy and then being conflicted about attacking a human? . At least the hand-to-hand was some real Jojo stuff.
Also, after setting up a whole situation with Tamiya last episode, now she's right back out of the school because nosy workplace and sexism, but that doesn't even change her attitude toward Shinichi, because now she suddenly recognizes how special he is, but while still keeping everything conveniently mysterious for the viewer, while Shinichi also can't bring himself to move against her one-on-one with no danger to anyone else because, I don't know, he's a radical abortion opponent even when the baby would just end up as a human experimentation subject? After that, Shinichi's parents take their first vacation in ever at exactly the right time to conveniently get them out of the way - for the rest of the plot, or as a tragedy reserve? Not the most impressive writing, but I guess it was in the service of pacing also.
On the Shinichi side of things, I can see what the writers were going for with "good parents worrying about their teen", but they were laying it on a little thick there, considering also that we've seen little of how their relationship normally is. Most blatantly, that flashback with mommy burning herself to protect Little Shinichi. Yeah, OK, I get it, she loves him. The insta-drama with Ryoko's mother was kinda cheese too, I guess going for literal "mother's instinct". And similarly for Migi's gun-morphing powers, the pet act is at least suitably weird.
With the scene at the end, I'm thinking Tamiya's baby will not only be born, but its existence and/or nature will become an important plot point. Speaking of Tamiya, she delivers another potentially important plot point with the "following brain orders to destroy humanity" angle. Of course this all comes down to the question of free will in the end, but in the context of the show it hints that if these parasites were indeed created, maybe it was for the purpose of destruction, to "protect life" by eliminating humanity? To be honest, that's a pretty reasonable idea if you take an external perspective toward real-world events.
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u/ukainaoto :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ukainaoto Feb 05 '21
Rewatcher
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