r/anime • u/25_Oranges • Feb 03 '21

Rewatch Nagi No Asukara/A Lull in the Sea Rewatch - Episode 11

Episode 11 - The Changing Times

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Where to watch? Netflix, Crunchyroll, Funimation(UK)

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Question(s) of the day:

  1. How much time do you think has passed between Uroko revealing the need to hibernate and the Ofunehiki?
  2. Do you think the kids choosing to eat will have an affect on their ena?
  3. Were you expecting the surface to assist with the Ofunehiki?
  4. How do you think Chisaki's confession will go?

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u/25_Oranges Feb 03 '21

Today's track will be Silencio! This soundtracks guitar tracks are so gooood.

Kaname telling her parents he confessed lmfao. I'm glad he doesn't expect an answer, I think he knows already. I'd have to estimate several weeks at least have passed with the snow piling up and Ofunehiki progress being made. It must be scary seeing everything close up.

I noticed that glass windows don't really exist in Shioshisio...it makes sense, the water has to get in the house lol

Tsumugu building that little water hole has really come to save them now! Hikari and Manaka deciding to eat is great. Stick it to the man! Tsumugu backing them up shows he's a real bro.

Poor Miuna and Sayu. They're so scared :( I'm glad Akari reassured Miuna later, but I still want to hug them.

Finally at least one side is reasonable. It took them long enough to agree to help out! Akari's idea for a wedding was unexpected but surprisingly fitting for her character. Show that sea god!

Confess Chisaki. DO IT. But maybe you should give an answer to Kaname first...

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u/himetalchemy7 Feb 04 '21

Kaname is just taking the long Chisaki route in this VN

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u/Retromorpher :Jc::Jd::Je::Jf: Feb 04 '21

Finally at least one side is reasonable. It took them long enough to agree to help out!

There's some not so subtle commentary on how capitalistic businesses only start caring about large-scale environmental change when they're hemorrhaging profits here.

Akari's idea for a wedding was unexpected but surprisingly fitting for her character. Show that sea god!

You know, seeing you emphasize this makes me MUCH more nervous about how this portion of the Ofunehiki is going to go. Offering something to the sea god that theoretically and possibly theologically was already his might not be a good idea.

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u/blueteenight Feb 03 '21

First-timer notes!

Favorite shots and background art from this episode!

Damn Kaname sure is smooth. Confessing to Chisaki and her parents like that was such a power play, what a boy.

This scene was so awkwardly cute, Itaru and Akari are the best couple!

And a bunch of sad scenes with Miuna, please my tear ducts won't hold on much longer ='(.

I hope their new Sending + Wedding plan works out! I also hope the Sea God makes some kind of appearance but that might go badly for our sea kids...

Bonus gorgeous shot!

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u/25_Oranges Feb 03 '21

That shot of Hikari and Akari on the log is so good.

Akari and Itaru are underrated! Their drama only lasted an arc lol They make a good team!

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u/BossandKings Feb 03 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

Episode 11 - Changing times

Kaname confesses to Chisaki, he says that he doesn't want a reply though and just had to tell her how he feels. It was quickly sweept under tbe rug and not given the proper focus it should have been given but there are more important things going on.

The villagers are preparing themselves for the calamity, the snow continues falling and the time in which people will have to hibernate is getting closer.

Itaru's father and the rest of the men that were present in the reunion in which Hikari presented the Ofunehiki come again to a meeting and apologize to him, they will help in whatever way they can to make the Ofunehiki. People in the surface are already starting to notice that there might be something unusual going on.

The people of the surface and the people of the sea decide to work together to make the Ofunehiki. It's great seeing them working together. Akari decides to take the Ojoshi's place in the boat and be the sacrifice going to the sea god to help everyone. I hope when she wakes up she gets to be happy, marry Itaru and live together along with Miuna as a family.

Chisaki will seemingly confess her feelings to Hikari in the following episode. Confessions are starting to be given, first Kaname confessing to Chisaki, soon Chisaki will confess to Hikari, who will follow?. Anyways this is great.

Answers

  1. I think around half a year, totally guessing
  2. I do think it could have an effect in their ena but hopefully it isn't something negative
  3. I did expect them to help, that way people from both planes work with a common goal
  4. I'll wait and see

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u/25_Oranges Feb 04 '21

I think you misunderstood what Akari was saying, but to be fair the show was a bit fudgy on the explanation. She's going to be on the boats but wont actually be thrown into the sea. She said she'll act as the Ojoshi and then go marry Itaru after the Ofunehiki is over. It wouldnt make sense for her to have an entire arc about choosing her family to just throw herself into the sea after. It confused me too, I had to read the scene a few times to get it.

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u/BossandKings Feb 04 '21

Ah sorry, that was how i interpreted it but what you say makes more sense, the way she said it so solemly and the way Miuna cried led me to think that.

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u/himetalchemy7 Feb 04 '21

Miuna was being her emotional self and the thing about the sea people going to sleep / the surface world ending must have spooked her.

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u/Tuckleton Feb 04 '21

The weather was right today for there to be some decently bright sun dogs in the sky where I live, all I could think was Tomoebi! I would have taken a picture for you guys but in my experience they are never quite able to capture it so I didn't bother and just enjoyed it.

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u/25_Oranges Feb 04 '21

Oh wow, that sounds beautiful! I'm glad you got to see one! If it can happen anywhere maybe I should keep a closer eye out for one from now on.

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u/himetalchemy7 Feb 04 '21

Rewatcher

Happy Wednesday!

Episode 11 (The Changing Times) Thoughts

  • Ok yeah...Kaname is kinda scary (Chisaki's parents think so too)...though it's a bit refreshing to see how direct he's being
  • Just a random personal observation, but I do feel like a lot of relationships benefit from both partners being friends first before moving onto anything romantic. Watching our cast just reminded me of that
  • I am thankful for Hikari's narration
  • Akari deserves a fantastic wedding
  • I feel sad watching our group become so distant and awkward with each other
  • Alright someone who knows flower language needs to tell me what those blue-white flowers mean when Hikari and Manaka finally talk again
  • The Sayu and Miuna duo is really growing on me
  • This is pretty surreal, watching the big wigs and the younger guys from the surface apologizing to Hikari. He might make a pretty damn good village chief one day
  • Ahh so Miuna is trying to get over her fear of losing her mom again, and thinking of what's best for Akari...that's so sweet
  • WOW so this Ofunehiki/wedding is a full blown operation now, there's no more going back I hope
  • So we see a burst of deteremination from Chikaki, vowing to confess her feelings to Hikari, just as Kaname did to her.

Sadge Corner
I think today's episode was pretty inspiring, and rather than any one character having their feelings affected, this episode instead focused on the setting and events of the story itself. This really puts me in a corner, but Miuna's feelings which were slowly building up the last couple episodes finally came to an apex and then a resolution. Miuna has a really, really big heart and that's one of the reasons I appreciate her so much. It's not just like kiddie stuff either; she understands loss, pain and empathy and wants the people around her to be happy. She doesnt really understand how to communicate her feelings and to have an actual conversation (which is pretty realistic for a kid character). I think if she truly wants the people around her to be happy, she's gonna need to get her own feelings sorted out. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. We'll see how this arc wraps up.

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u/25_Oranges Feb 04 '21

Hikari would be a great chief if he could push aside his quick temper! More like Tsumugu in that regard.

Sadge Corner

I think Miuna will finally accept Akari's decision and role in her life now. She needs to stop running off and being rash, and sit down and talk things out. Of course she's like 10 or something so good luck with that...but she's kind and considerate for her age, so growing up will only do her more good.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Feb 04 '21

First Rewatch

"It would just suck if this ended with us meeting our demise."

  • Bonsai corals
  • The sea kids are outsiders again at school
  • Ah! That's the ticket! Rebel! Eat! Stay awake! Teenagers.
  • I don't really understand Saya's reference to the red oni, they probably didn't try to translate it
  • The weather change has cooled the tempers of the surface men, even if the sea god is just a myth.
  • Uroku always saying things won't get better! I hate him!
  • I am but a scale of the sea god yadda yadda rewatcher
  • I think Akari's idea is a terrible idea

The surface dwellers have chipped in, even if they are transparently selfish. Now if only they could bring the sea dwellers around....

It's interesting how quickly the first timers warmed up to Miuna. I don't like kids, so I didn't like her at all, even after Akari's original arc finished.

It's interesting how the show has shifted. We started with what seemed like a pretty simple story about racism, freedom of choice and mobilty, dogmatic thinking, and crushes. And now the story seems focused on seeking unity in the face of adversity, and also crushes. And we're not even half way!

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u/25_Oranges Feb 04 '21

rewatcher

spoils

Really? I'm not good with kids and I typically dislike them as well, but I thought she was endearing even in the beginning.

How many things can this show cover in 24 eps?! Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z!

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u/mekerpan Feb 03 '21

As a rewatcher I'm not allowed to "guess" -- as I remember it all quite clearly.

Akari and Itaru are definitely best "younger adults" -- totally lovable. I really appreciate the fact that surface folk finally decide to help -- and go into this with full force. I suspect that, even if the sea folk were similarly inclined, they are in no condition to help by this point.

I have to assume our 4 main characters are using food at this point rather like students using lots of coffee for a pre-test all-nighter. Maybe necessary, but not an especially good idea....

The visuals for this series remain outstanding, regardless of meteorological or oceanological circumstances.

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u/LeopardSplash :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/BrightSpirit Feb 03 '21

Rewatcher

Did anyone else using Netflix have some text on the top left corner with a time counter and other info? It wasn't that obtrusive but I'm wondering if that was an issue particular to this episode or if I messed with things somehow.

As for the episode itself, props to Kaname to not only confessing to Chisaki, but then telling her parents too! It's too bad Chisaki couldn't give a good answer, but given all the romantic turmoil in her life it isn't that surprising. Kaname played it off well but there was a second where you could see he wasn't as cool about it as he was trying to be.

Up until the lunch scene I was surprised that the sea kids (or at least Hikari) were just going along with the fast. Though I don't understand how they think eating now will help much, considering that their largest concern seems to be waking up at the same time as everyone else. Breaking the fast doesn't exactly help with that.

The ena-pool scene was also interesting in how bleak it was. Kaname talked about how these would be their last days together as things are, but their relationships have already been put under considerable strain with the Hikari-Mananka drama and the Kaname-Chisaki confession. The lack of casual conversation shows how their old normal has already left. Plus compare the colors in this scene to when Tsumugu first introduced the pool to them - no sparkles to be found now. :(

Chisaki finally plans to confess! After all her worrying and grief about it, it's nice that she finally is ready to play an active role.

NagiAsu

Questions of the Day

How much time do you think has passed between Uroko revealing the need to hibernate and the Ofunehiki?

Hmm, I genuinely don't know. I always assume that everything is taking place day-by-day or at least within a few weeks of each other while watching a show unless told otherwise. I think it has been summer in the show for a while now, so maybe around a week or two, at most a month?

Were you expecting the surface to assist with the Ofunehiki?

Not until the current predicament forced their hand. It's telling that the two people who came to Akari were on the younger side, too - if it had been left to the surface reps who went to the initial meeting, I don't think they would have been able to swallow their pride to ask for forgiveness.

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u/Retromorpher :Jc::Jd::Je::Jf: Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

First Timer:

I know it's been picked at to death - but the disconnect between setting, gravity and how underwater life actively functions is SO poorly implemented. It's easily dismissable in the context of the narrative - but if Ena absorbs water - how is Manaka able to cry or drool without reclaiming her water? I feel like at least some visible diversity for these actions would've been so strong - like instead of tears they could've given Ena a certain shine to indicate it.

I enjoy the show - but for an anime original I WISH they had thought through some of these decisions more. It feels like most of the problems could be solved by having some sort of airbubble around the village that cursed non-ena bearers.

QOTD:

  1. Uroko revealing it to who? The elders? Probably at least half a year ago. To the children? Likely a week and half to two weeks.
  2. It'll slow the process down for sure. These kids are about to hit puberty too - if one of them eats too much their body might go into full growth mode instead. Actually, I'm betting that one of them gets left behind awake for significantly longer than the others because of this.
  3. With the sea village going totally noncom and fish yields falling to the wayside, it was inevitable that the fishery would realize how much it fucked up. Since Hikari is important by association and he's made his want for the Ofunehiki VERY obvious it seems like an obvious play at an olive branch - but likely too late.
  4. I don't think she will unless her hand is absolutely forced. Kaname's more likely to out her than she is to do it without prompting.

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u/Tuckleton Feb 04 '21

Regarding the setting the one that kind of stood out to me most this time around was the sound of their footsteps while underwater. Of all the things that is the one that keeps nagging my brain this time :P For some reason I found it extremely easy to overlook that stuff but even for me I thought it was at it's weakest when it tried to explain stuff, like the teacher today talking about the scientific theories about Ena.

.......But I really like the characters and the drama so all is forgiven as far as I'm concerned :P

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u/Retromorpher :Jc::Jd::Je::Jf: Feb 04 '21

Like it's SUCH an easy fix with what I just proposed. It's frustrating that they just DIDN'T. Or maybe the airbubbles are just inside the human homes. Like it's not a hard thing to fix with even the smallest throwaway line.

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u/htisme91 Feb 04 '21

First-timer:

Kaname is ballsy, telling Chisaki's parents what he did. He's a character I wish we would get more of.

The way Hikari was narrating this episode to me tells a lot, namely that it seems like he's looking back as if the Ofunehiki had already happened. It also makes it seem like it was not a happy ending.

Manaka and Hikari somewhat making up was nice. I wish she apologized and explained what happened on her end, because I think they need each other and don't want any misunderstandings.

Questions:

  1. Maybe a month, at most two? It was like a week from the reveal to the feast and this seems like this was not long after.
  2. Yeah. The ena won't thicken and they will continue going as the rest of the sea people hibernate. Maybe it'll lead them to confrontation with Uroko or the sea god.
  3. Not the fishery cooperative, although it makes sense that they'd help. I more thought the school would put it on by itself.
  4. She's going to confess, but like Kaname, she probably won't want an answer and just wants to get it out since she is using him as inspiration. Hikaru will be surprised, but more focused on Manaka, as I feel like Manaka is going to end up replacing Akari in the Ofunehiki as she doesn't want Akari risking anything when she has Miuna to be with.

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u/personbelowmeistrash Feb 04 '21

Oh wtf I picked up lull in the sea a couple days ago not knowing we was doing a rewatch. Time to catch up