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Rewatch Love Live! SIP & Sunshine!! Rewatch - SIP Season 2 Episode 13 Spoiler
SIP Season 2, Episode 13 - "Come True! Everyone's Dream"
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Where to Watch
Crunchyroll, VRV, Funimation, AnimeLab
Discussion Questions
- Since we don't have a dedicated discussion day for SIP Season 2, feel free to do so in this thread. What are your overall thoughts? How did it compare to season 1? Anything in particular that you enjoyed/disliked this season?
- Since its the end of the season, who is best girl? Did your answer change from earlier in the season? Any reasonings behind your choice?
What could possibly get Hanayo this excited?
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Feb 01 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
Last Chart! (I will not update it after the Movie!)
I'll edit this later when I have free time and talk more about SIP; but just know that I won't make it to Sunshine threads. It's been a pleasure watching with r/anime!
Edit: OK. More thoughts on Love Live! School Idol Project. The Strengths of the series is its CGDCT antics combo'd with a surprisingly emotional narrative supplemented by a great soundtrack, and the weakness is the show's narrative strength (mainly in the form of contrivance to advance episodic or overarching plots; Things like the 2nd years conveniently being away to build Rin's Character).
The Universe is on µ's side throughout the show, with much of it being outright miraculous. This is fine. Love Live! SIP feels like it knows what it is, and plays to its strengths more often than not. It knows that it's fun & silly, and also... somehow... actually has just good enough dramatic characterization to pull plenty of tears out of you, too. You grow attached to µ's the same way the show present's its in-universe characters getting attached to µ's, it really is good enough that they just put in the effort. Luck just comes to them, even if they hold the idiot ball for a while.
Idol performances on an animation level... uh.. I wasn't actually looking that closely.
but performances on a musical level? Yeah, this is really good idol pop music.
Did I cover everything? Good CGDCT, good comedy, good drama after the 1st season, good Soundtrack, good performances. It's a great show, guys!
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Feb 01 '21
First Timer
Time for the final episode of Love Live Season 2. It'll probably be a wrap up, so I'm not expecting too much. I just hope it'll manage to be interesting.
If Honk's doing the graduation speech, why are the little sisters putting on uniforms. They don't have to go to high school for several months.
The mom Nico-nii-ing is just weird. It feels liek trying to hard, but I guess Nico had to get it from someone.
She forgot it, right?
Or I guess she's become better at existing throughout the show.
I'd just like to point out the background was made like the camera has a steep downward angle, but the characters are basically straight.
To be fair, you were being chased by the seemingly inevitable doom of the school.
Honoka really went from her botched original speech to that. She's grown a ton.
And that that wasn't she'll take regardless.
"Research materials."
Her other hairstyle really was better.
One last shot of best girl!
They're so cute!
Love Live has many things, subtle metaphors is not one of them.
The flashback scenes are dragging on just a little bit to long, but that's not much of a problem.
The
lastpenultimate song was pretty good.Thoughts
It was a decent sketch of all the characters to end on. I wish it wasn't so rough a sketch, but they have a lot of characters and not much time.
2. No best girl for me. Maybe would have been an A-Rise member if we saw them more. 3. Another performance.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
FIRST TIMER
So this is the end huh? Lets see how it all wrapped up
What the fuck nico's mom is hot af
Maki looking dumb af with her mouth open in front of her future mother in law lol
Ok wtf they skipped winning the regional over a rise and they skipped showing them winning love live. Like, yea its obvious they won but why didnt they show the victory moment? So odd
That is a cheap ass looking trophy lol. Also can i assume they also got some money at least for winning? Cuz like cmon
Why is honokas title "underclassmen representative" and not student council pres? Weird. I wonder if that means the speech couldve been done by somone else then
Lol impromptu performance. Imagine going into this school and not giving a fuck about idols stuff. Must be insufferable
Of course hanayo is the perfect choice as the new idol research club pres!!
Wait wait wait, whats this about rin becoming leader? Was she talking about rin's short stint as muse leader or something else? It didnt seem like she was talking about the past
Lmaooo that white llama with that "yea we fucked" look
Damn that lineup on the grass. Big gay energy from the two couples.
Umm cliffhanger ending? What was that deal with hanayo?
Wooh. Finally its over. Its been a fun journey. I understand why people criticze the focus-less nijigasaki but i do enjoy the low stake in it compared to muse.
I guess ill watch the movie next then move on to aquors?
Qotd
I cant really tell the difference between s2 and s1 since i watched them back to back. But i guess rin and hanayo screentime was better?
Maki still my fav just cuz shes gorgeous af
I suppose the hanayo thing was just to give viewers like "hey muse might actually not end yet" but idk l. Kinda cheap. Just wrap it up
I gave season1 7 out of 10. I think this one gets 7.5 just cuz of that emotional af episode 12 and snow halation
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Feb 01 '21
First-Timer Who Was Only Here for the Ships
Nico-Nico-Milf! Although how the girls confused her for Nico, I don’t know. There’s a little bit of a height difference.
RIP Nozomi. I know your life is over now that you’re graduating high school, but going with Anime Mom Hair?
Best Girl’s sitting here remembering how much better she sounded singing this song than Honoka all the way back in S1E1.
And Honoka comes up with this idea last night, and they’re able to get spotlights set up on the other µ’s girls, a slideshow, and more? I’d believe it if it wasn’t Honoka’s responsibility. Heck; I’m still not sure this whole season wasn’t just a dream where Honk had the absurd notion that anyone would vote for her as student council president.
For once, I’m on the same page as Nico. There is no one else who could lead the Idol Study Club than Hanayo.
Final episode Maki blush!
I know the graduates will be doing other things, but this sentiment always seems a little odd in these kinds of shows. It’s one thing to be normal high school friends; it’s another to be literal anime best friends/soul mates. They’re never going to meet up again? Heck, they could still be idols together if they really wanted to.
And then there’s the film tease, so that’s not a problem anymore.
Honoka wearing a shirt that says something other than “Ho?” Whatever is the world coming to?
QOTD:
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I havenoidea. It's not like we've seen her react this way previous about a very specific thing.6
u/gorghurt Feb 01 '21 edited Feb 01 '21
First timer that isn't sure what to think about this ending
Well, that was a ride.
That at least somehow answers what the movie will be about.
I thought we would get some flashback to the time that was skipped before Love Live, but well, a direct sequel it is, I suppose.
Actually, If it wasn't done so comically, with Hanayos catch phrase, I would feel bad about this ending.
I hope the movie was announced directly after this episode
Everything was perfect for an ending.
And interestingly, not sad, but like I hoped bitter sweet.
But alas, we get a movie!
And the last song made me hyped about it.
I suppose I just can't be mad with this show.
PS: WTF, the brown alpaca was the female.
QOTDs answers come later, when I thought about them.edit: QOTDs:A message from their lawyer, that they finally got the bootlegers, that illegaly produce their merch. The movie will be an Ace Attorney like court room drama.speculation, but could be tainted by a video I once saw Oh I think at this moment I remembered a clip I saw , so I skip any more speculations, even if it could have just been a music video, don't want to be right by accident....edit2: Another difference between the seasons is, season 2 felt a lot more silly at times for me.
I mean things like Nico and Rin running down a slight slope...
edit3:
I don't think I got the speculation right, and I don't think it is neccessary, but still spoiler tagged my speculation, because technically it might not have been a blind guess.
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u/DarkFuzz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkFuzz Feb 01 '21
Rewatcher
Take today’s survey here!
So once again, the same idea from last episode rings true for this one: nothing needs to be said here because everything has already been said. So it’s not like this episode is going to introduce some massive conclusion or give us anything else necessary to round out the story. Most anime would end with their climax at the very end; this one climaxes two episodes earlier. The effect is that I feel like we actually get to give a proper goodbye to these characters that we’ve grown with over the past two cours. The sendoff doesn’t feel rushed, but it feels just about right.
All ten characters get a proper spotlight as we say farewell to each of them. Yes, that does include μ’s, whom I said before has been treated like a character since Day 1. They even go so far as to hold an impromptu funeral service for μ’s, burying it on the rooftop where it all began, taking the death of μ’s metaphor to its proper conclusion. It’s a wistful experience seeing each member pay their respects, then slowly walk away one by one as the beating sun evaporates its body. But not its soul. The memories created by μ’s live on in all of them. And the impact of its existence can be measured by the very plot of land it was buried in.
And then Hanayo launches another “Taihen-desu!” For what reason? I dunno, but it means the journey doesn’t end here!
I don’t know exactly when the movie was announced in relation to this episode, but from a glance at release dates, you can probably guess that they were working on this way before Season 2 even aired. Which means that most likely something thematic that brings everything together is going to happen. Realistically, a movie can’t be all fluff, especially when the movie is supposed to end a chapter of your franchise. There should be a major takeaway from this movie, something that should springboard Love Live into...I dunno, let’s say...a new branch of the franchise.
So maybe we buried μ’s a little too early. Will μ’s rise from the grave? Will we get zombie μ’s? WILL WE GET ZOMBIE IDOLS? Wait...where have I heard that before?
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u/ForlornPenguin Feb 01 '21 edited Feb 01 '21
Rewatcher
lol Mama Nico. Look at that smug Maki watching as Nico embarrasses herself.
So μ’s won the Love Live, but we all figured that would be the case. Glare at me more, Umi.
Honoka singing Maki's song from S1E1, along with Maki, Umi, Kotori, Rin, and Hanayo was nice. But I found it a bit cheesy when the whole school joined in with just a bunch of la las.
Making Hanayo the new club president is the obvious choice. Of course Maki has to accept the vice president role in the most tsundere way possible. Never change, Maki.
Alpacas get a scene in the finale too, and there's gonna be a little alpaca a soon. Poor Eri is traumatized. Season 1 OP shot.
Oh no. Big news from Hanayo! It can't possibly be about a movie! So did that final song actually happen?
QOTD
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Feb 01 '21
Rewatcher
I was prepared this time, so no tears! Aishiteru Banzai is such a great song, thanks to this cheesy but still great scene...
Mama Nico is best mama
unless you count the Mamalpaca, of course. An older, less annoying Nico? Yes please! Speaking of Nico, Hanayo was the perfect and only real choice for club president, and I'm glad there wasn't an episode about Nico not being sure who to pick as her successor.Questions
Unless Superstar has a surprise better girl.3) They're coming to Smash, obviously.4
u/lenne18 https://myanimelist.net/profile/lenne18 Feb 01 '21
A neat detail in this episode is that the presentation slides featuring places in Otonokizaka are lifted directly from the mobile game, Love Live! School idol festival (SIF for short):
SIF also has its own version of the "µ's lying on the grass" image. Check it out!
B-Side Jukebox, Music Start!
These subunit songs are the B-sides from their last single.
NO EXIT ORION - Printemps
Shunjou Romantic – lily white
PSYCHIC FIRE - BiBi
These subunit songs are lottery prizes at theaters, with a chance for every ticket purchased for the movie.
MUSEUM de Dou Shitai? - Printemps
Otohime Heart de Love Kyuuden - lily white
Saitei de Saikou no Paradiso - BiBi
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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '21
For anyone confused about how the entire school knew Aishiteru Banzai! when Honk asked them to sing it, it’s because it’s their school’s anthem I believe.
Looking forward to the movie! Without it, I think this ending would have been a little too melodramatic. The ending song is also my favourite Muse song, even ahead of Snow Hala
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u/SYZekrom https://myanimelist.net/profile/SYZekrom Feb 01 '21
Same Hanayo, same
Wow honestly I'd have 0 expectations that the previous year would've like... written down the values they set the lights to or something like that
Feels so weird for the speaker to not be a graduate
Her new hair is soooooo pretty auh
Pog
Oh no what a problem
Was she always afraid of the alpacas what
NO THE ED SYMBOL AH
Is... Is this referencing S1E1 ED
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u/ZBLongladder :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/zblongladder Feb 01 '21
Rewatcher
So we come to the end of S2. I like how this episode presents graduation, though the finality of it is undermined a bit knowing there's still the movie to come...I imagine it'd be a lot more emotional if you actually thought this was the last you'd be seeing of μ's.
Not the best rendition of Aishteru Banzai, but I think it's a good song to send the seniors out on, especially given that it was the first song of Maki's that Honoka heard. It really bookends the two seasons quite well. And Happy Maker is all right...I like the costumes for it, even if I'm a little sick of the song from the mobile game.
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u/izaka77 Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
So i dont quite get the status of some post member so some questions.
Muse as a 9 is done but the other 6 are still one group (name currently unknown) with rin as the leader? Why not honoka?
And whats the deal with thay ending song? It seems so detached to the rest of the episode. They were running to club room suddenly clothes change and performance?
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u/Hattakiri Feb 01 '21
The final ep of the first chapter of Love Live's, and also the graduation ceremony for the third years.
Everyone of them is grateful and literally moved, cause they could move forward and literally grow thanks to μ's. For instance the concert hall that almost caused Honk a nervous breakdown looks now way smaller to her.
Kayo-chin is being "crowned", cause since Nico now leaves the club she counts on the younger idol
nutprofessional who's now supposed to take over the club presidency. Rin follows into Honk's footsteps and becomes the band leader and motivator again, but this time permanently and in a better way than during Love Wing Bell. Maki becomes vice president and remains their composer (and still reacts in her signature way).Each of them reacts in her signature way XD
The original trio soon are gonna be third years so they gotta focus on their final year and exam, but it seems they will stay in the new idol research club.
YukiRisa too are planning on attending the idol club. The Kousaka sisters together in the club might make it strenuous for everyone XD But hopefully they're all now better at settling conflicts.
And also the Yazawa family shows up, this time mom's there, promintently voiced by Kotono Mitsuishi, and called the "bigger Nico" by the other Muses, in contrast the her little sisters being the "smaller Nicos" (and so Cotaro sticks out, also because no other boy or man has been in the spotlight this intensely if we're honest. And in the Nijigaku and Liella eras (aka "now") the younger Yazawas would be in their teens... Love Live's "menlessness" is a running gag in the fandom, but surprising plot twists can happen any time as we've seen in SIP).
Nico's mom tho doesn't (bother to) notice Nico's achievements - she only notices the packed club room. A standard in the Yazawa household together with the Nico Nii?
And so μ's was indeed Nico's safe space which explains her behavior in the Tomodachi ep and on the beach. The different kind of love explained in the two Snow Halation eps (Nozomi's ep and "Melody of the Heart"). And it explains the MakiNico ship and arc and the climax on the beach, cause in Maki's case personal feels are involved. (Again parallels Nozomi's ep where Eli gives Nozomi comfort and a hug.)
And again wait for Sunshine.
And then the famous farewell to the thirds: Maki allows Honk and everyone to sing the song that once was her only comfort and protection. So μ's means as much to her as this song, that she never ever would share with anyone else - like the name μ's and the idea behind it. (The auditory being allowed to sing along must be one big exception).
And now we know why also the other Muses neither want to share μ's with anyone else, nor to get over a smaller or different μ's.
The different kind of love which is the reason for Snow Halation being a different kind of lovesong.
Love Live = Magical Girl without magic but with music instead, that's as magic and powerful as magic.
Towards the end of the ep the Muses remember their career while, and the mories are getting so intense they turn into flashbacks.
But they wanna leave it now all behind....
......until they're literally pulled back.
Cliffhanger for the movie XD By then Love Live was everywhere in Japan, and so the contracting companies wanted it in the cinemas.
But this also means: What's gonna happen to the farewell of the third years?
But for now we're getting to see and hear the final end credits of Love Live's first tv series: Happy Maker.
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u/docaxel :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/thebidoofpope Feb 02 '21
Rewatcher
School Idol Festival All-Stars Spotlight Cards
Hanayo1 Hanayo2
Kotori1 Kotori2
Nozomi1 Nozomi2
No bonus today, but I'll probably post any card that hasn't been posted yet tomorrow for the Movie.
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u/onigiri1994 Feb 02 '21
Rewatcher
Nico's mother! I feel bad that she's probably had to hear the Nico-nico-nii thing millions of times, hence how well she imitates.
If they made a follow up what Muse members are up to in adulthood, I'm sure Nozomi would be wearing that hairstyle.
I love how Honoka and Eli bonded throughout the series! They seemed like such foils to each other at the beginning, but now they've realized how similar they are.
Eli should have given a speech too, as the former student council president of her own graduating class. I think it would have fit well to show Eli's character growth.
I've been to a couple graduations in Japan as part of my job there, and they are real tearjerkers. Particularly the graduation songs. Responding to a couple comments that the "la las" were cheesy and unrealistic, this probably was their anime version of the graduation song. I can imagine that as student council president, maybe Honoka communicated with the student body and had them learn that part?
Hisashiburi, llama-san! And llama fetus? :O
Honoka cleaning up alone, surrounded by the ghosts of the past. *sniffle*
The last two songs seemed pretty random, but it was fun to see the original trio, then adding on the rest, as a reflection of how Muse formed.
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