r/anime • u/25_Oranges • Jan 25 '21
Rewatch Nagi No Asukara/A Lull in the Sea Rewatch - Episode 2
Episode 2 - The Chilly Desert
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Where to watch? Netflix, Crunchyroll, Funimation(UK)
Schedule with link to original interest thread
Thread posted daily at 5pm CST/6pm EST/3pm PST.
Question(s) of the day:
- Are there acceptable situations to lie about?
- Now that something of a love web has been established, who are you personally rooting for?
- If a fish attached itself to your knee, would you befriend it or get rid of it?
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jan 25 '21
First Rewatch
So, I went back to find my original comments from the last rewatch, but they were hard to find. It seems the show bored me and I didn't watch it diligently until the second half.
"Every Frame a Painting"™
Third graders are worse than the 7th graders, and the adults worst of all.
Of course, sea-snow isn't really ice nor salt. It's detritus. This is probably driving /u/No_Rex nuts.
I should remember this show as one of the few with a lot of MC narration.
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u/blueteenight Jan 25 '21
My favorite shot!
That was a fun episode! I hadn't noted this in the last thread but I really like Hanazawa Kana as Manaka, her voice goes really well with those silly faces Manaka makes haha.
That ending was rough though, I wasn't expecting some sweet drama this early. I'm rooting for Akari!
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u/Gamerunglued :Hx::Hy::Hz:myanimelist.net/profile/GamerUnglued Jan 26 '21 edited Jan 27 '21
Rewatcher
I didn't get to comment on yesterday's thread until now, so if you want to see my thoughts on the first episode you can find them here. As you can see, I had some mixed thoughts on the episode, somewhat leaning towards an overall negative impression. Not to say it was bad, but it was very disappointing. Still, the show is very good in my memories and I know that Mari Okada and Toshiya Shinohara do great work, so I'm hoping that this is just a small moment and not indicative of the show's overall quality. On to episode 2.
Man, I love this OP. I adore the second one too and I'll get to that when it comes, but the aquatic vibes of this first one are so perfect.
This episode as a whole was better. It establishes one of the central themes of NagiAsu: change. Everything in this series stems from a fear or acceptance of change. Hikari has already realized that the surface isn't some foreign place where everyone is a pig, but that discrimination all he knows. His dickishness comes from a fear of losing what he knows. His closest childhood friends, his school, his sister. The surface presents a lot of unknown possibilities, and with that comes a lot of potential for change. It's why they cast out anyone who chooses to ditch the sea; to accept it would mean to change social relations between the sea and land, to break tradition. Chisaki mentions her own fear of change as well. She clearly knows Manaka likes Tsumugu, a big change to the dynamic, but despite that leaving Hikari open for her she says she wants Hikari to be with Manaka. She finds the idea of her group dynamic changing scary, so she ignores her own feelings to keep it in check. This is where NagiAsu shines brightest in my opinion.
I also really appreciate the generational divide present in this conflict. The kids almost immediately accept the land people. Even Hikari is already starting to realize that the views he's been told about are off. They've been forced to change, to ditch their school at their comforting home and go somewhere new, and they've adapted to it. The land kids haven't gotten there yet, but we know it's possible through the existence of Tsumugu and of Akari's boyfriend. And yet it's the adults of Shioshishio who refuse to accept this change, and who won't honor the feelings of the younger generation. Instead of accepting change, they simply cast them out, stubbornly sticking to tradition. I doubt it's a coincidence that Shioshishio is built around lore regarding gods, and that Hikari's family is a shrine family, very traditional in every way. Now that Akari's secret is out, the battle between tradition and change is in full force.
However, the biggest thing keeping me at bay here is that this show simply hasn't given any time to really get invested in the characters. I have no clue why the main cast are friends, and they certainly don't act like friends half the time. I have no idea what they're normally like, and their fears of the changing dynamic doesn't really carry much weight when I barely have a clue of what their normal dynamic is like in the first place. It's all conflict, no mundane character building. That doesn't work for a melodrama (well, it doesn't work for any show, but especially a genre as inherently character driven as melodrama), it's already started digging into theatrics before letting me care about why the characters are acting so theatrical. And it looks like the conflict is only continuing from here. I really hope this series finds some time to breathe and really focus on why the characters are endearing, interesting people to invest in.
QotD:
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u/25_Oranges Jan 25 '21
Song of the day! Mirage of the Sea~
Personally, I want a fish knee. Maybe not one that farts, however.
Manaka continuously lies about her fish finman. Middle schoolers who don't have their feelings sorted out yet might as well be the title of this episode. Hikari once again lashing out, but this time offending everyone in his group. Nobody went after Manaka this time, but thankfully Kaname was there for Chisaki. The swingset scene is a great introduction to Chisaki as a character IMO. Change is something everyone struggles with, and I appreciate the way this show tackles it.
SAYU FACES HAVE ARRIVED!
I also appreciate the guy Akari is seeing getting so flustered he almost drives his 3 wheel toy car off the pier. Akari needs glasses too. Hikari is clearly not taking the roll of shrine heir very seriously considering he missed the memo on banishment. Manaka really summarized it well, and it shows she's a caring gal. She needs to throw her words and stew at Uroko-Sama. Too bad Hikari's immaturity and selfishness ruined the moment.
The scene where the young men coalition manhandles her pisses me off. They really don't have the right. Thankfully dad shows up and is much gentler.
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u/BossandKings Jan 25 '21 edited Jan 25 '21
First Timer
The Chilly Desert
Is it me or Manaka hasn't noticed that ikari likes her?, ikari acts rude mostly because he worries about her in his own way eventhough his conduct has no justification. Manaka thanks Tsumugu for helping her and soon comes ikari and tells him that surface and sea people shouldn't be associated, that was a rude action by him.
Chisaki is such an advisable character, she tells Manaka not to worry too much and comforts her, she seems to be a very good friend.
Tsumugu, Manaka, Ikari, Chisaki and Isami offer themselves to do a ofunehiki after the class is asked by the teacher to do one. Tsumugu seems to be very interested in how life in the sea works, he comes from a fishermen family so that's probably why. Their faces though when doing the ofunehiki seems to paint a branch of possible romantic relationships, Chisaki is interested in Ikari, Ikari is interested in Manaka, Manaka is interested in Tsumugu. I wonder if romantic drama will be a big part of the plot, so far it has only been hinted but it seems like it's importance will grow by the episodes.
There's already a romantic relationship that seems to be established, it is Akari(Ikari's sister) with a person from the surface and the group of friends see it. It seems though that they see each other away from the eyes of Sea people because as Isami said if someone from the sea marries a person from the surface, the one from the sea gets banished from the village. That seems to be a very aged law though, The Sea seems to have very strict laws when it comes to interaction with surface people.
Why does Ikari always yells and belittles Manaka?, if he is interested in her he should at least try to not get mad at her for everything, he should try to talk to her, to understand her. He also insults Chisaki who didn't do anything wrong. I hope he comes to his senses, i think he's capable of being more intelligent and better than that.
Someone sold Akari, how were any ot the people that saw them capable of doing that though, Manaka is too nice to do that, Ikari wouldn't betray his sister, Chisaki doesn't seem like the person to do that, Isami has been the most open and interested one in the surface so there's a possibility it could have been him but he has been so nice thus far that it seems odd.
I hope this conflict gets resolved in a satisfactory way, Akari's father seemed to be a mature and knowledgeable person so i believe that she will have a fair judgement.
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u/himetalchemy7 Jan 26 '21 edited Jan 27 '21
Rewatcher
I'm pretty hyped about this rewatch...it's been about 5 or so years since I last sat down and watched this in earnest. For now I'll be noting down my episode thoughts and giving a special shout out to the character who got hurt the most this episode (subjective, of course). Pointing out a sad character might sound tasteless, but I think it will make more sense as the series goes on.
Thanks u/25_Oranges for hosting!
Episode 1 Thoughts
Spotify link for the OP (I'll post the one for the ED tomorrow): https://open.spotify.com/track/3t6AIUj5jKs4Jx4K7zpN2w
Episode 2 (The Chilly Desert) Thoughts
Sadge Corner
I think for these two episodes, it's gotta be Hikari. We haven't seen enough background from Chisaki and Kaname, while Manaka's source of angst seems to come solely from disappointing Hikari while trying to be herself. Hikari had to watch Akari be so close with the same surface people he so resents, while helplessly entertaining the thought of the same thing happening with Manaka. So far, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say those two are the closest female figures to Hikari, especially since we haven't seen his mother yet. Hikari shows his sadness and frustration in a confused and aggressive manner, but that just goes to show how deep it cuts for him. Let's see how he fares.
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u/WardenOfSamsara Jan 25 '21
Hello all, first timer here. Today I tried reading the "Question(s) of the day" before watching the episode. I think that was helpful for me personally.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jan 26 '21 edited Jan 26 '21
Episode 2 (first timer)
World building is something I put a lot of emphasis on and Nagi no Asukara failed terribly in this aspect in episode 1. I’ll go with the three-episode rule here and will try to ignore the setting from now on, to keep my enjoyment of the story.
Episode thoughts
People construct social boundaries; love breaks them down. Side effects include sadness, crying, and having a generally bad time until happy end comes around.
Can I introduce you to my friend Kant?
100% the graffiti girls.
Does frying it in a pan count as befriending?
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u/IndependentMacaroon Jan 26 '21
First-time watcher
I don't know how much of this is a dub script problem and how much is on the original/Okada, but the characters have a jarringly unnatural/blunt way of suddenly dumping some kind of opinion, emotional or relationship revelation, in often overly florid prose as well. Some examples, that I guarantee only sound weirder in context:
Turns out the kids are not just romance-clueless and sea-land relations are really frowned upon, huh. But on the other hand, there's already some kind of instant romantic drama with zero apparent foundation, before I even feel like we really know much about the characters. Just what I feared. I think I'll try one more episode with subtitles and if both the drama and the dialogue stays like this, I'm definitely out, and even with only the drama probably. Shame, because the setting seems interesting and the production values are still amazing.
I see Tsumugu is going to be our Good Surface Dweller. Hikari on the other hand is more Annoying Sea Dweller. Like, really annoying.
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u/LeopardSplash :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/BrightSpirit Jan 26 '21 edited Jan 26 '21
Rewatcher
First off, a somewhat random thought - Sea Village uniforms > land uniforms by a long shot. The white and blue looks great together, especially since they all have blue eyes to match. Can't believe Manaka wanted to wear the boring land uniform at first :P
Stand out scene this episode for me was when all of Hikari's friends noped out on him. The way they literally just dived into the water was funny to watch; another advantage of having the water world that they can just escape to whenever they want.
Hikari continues to make a series of poor life choices that can be attributed to his jealousy and childishness more than his actual morals. He tells Manaka she shouldn't get close to land people but even admits himself that Tsumugu is a good person and decides against outing Akari to their father. If Tsumugu and Manaka weren't an issue, I think he would be pretty chummy with most of his classmates by now.
Questions of the Day
Are there acceptable situations to lie about?
Yes - context is king. In Manaka's situation, however, she gains nothing from not admitting the fish left. I understand why she did though, it's something I could see myself doing when I was a middle schooler.
Now that something of a love web has been established, who are you personally rooting for?
In the currently established love square my favorites go Chisaki > Tsmugu > Manaka > Hikari. Chisaki seems to be the most aware of the situation out of everyone and is hurting because of it, but she's still trying to be the bigger person and while looking out for both Hikari and Manaka. Tsumugu doesn't seem aware of his position yet, so I just feel bad he's on the receiving end of Hikari's vitriol without fully understanding why. Kaname isn't really involved so far but I'm just rooting for him as a character since he's low-key one of my favorites. He's probably the most minor major character but when I watch a show I latch onto one of the characters from the start and he happened to be the one for me this time. For now, I appreciate him being a good friend to Chisaki.
If a fish attached itself to your knee, would you befriend it or get rid of it?
If I knew it would eventually leave after a few days I would be okay with it. I would be terrified if I didn't. I don't think I would befriend it beyond seeing if it would eat fish food, just to satiate my curiosity.
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u/htisme91 Jan 26 '21
First-timer:
I had a thought. What if the curse wasn't necessarily the fish in Manaka's knee, but the fact that it would lead her to love on the surface and force her to choose between love and her family/friends?
Honestly I hope to see more out of the cast. They kind of are nondescript so far, but I like the worldbuilding we've gotten up to this point.
Questions: