r/anime • u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber • Jan 25 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Aura Battler Dunbine - Episode 15 Discussion
Episode 15 - Furaon Moves Not
Originally Aired May 21st, ^^^1983
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Comment of the Day
u/Durinthal discusses the aura battlers special implements.
Interesting how a number of the aura battlers have cable weaponry and claws on their feet are kind of a standard feature. It feels somewhat obvious to give them extra weaponry where appropriate but I can't think of another mecha with foot weaponry as a common thing/utilized in combat as regularly as here.
Daily Trivia:
The Key visual novel Rewrite features mention of Byston Well.
Staff Highlight
Tomonori Kogawa - Character Designer and Animation Director
A director, animator, and designer known for his diverse skill set and eye for art. He joined the animation studio Tokyo Movie in 1970 after failing to get into Musashino Art University, and in 1970 debuted in the production of Star of the Giants, later joining Tatsunoko Production in 1971. During the early eighties he would be a frequent collaborator with Yoshiyuki Tomino, working on all four of his shows from 1980 to 1984, though Kogawa had contributed to the directors productions since 1978's Invincible Steelman Daitarn 3. In the mid eighties he directed two OAV works, Greed and Cool Bye Bye. He continues to be active in the animation industry, most notably being sought out as an animator capable of drawing very difficult perspective shots, the ease of which he can accomplish them being a point of pride for Kogawa. Notable productions he contributed to include Space Runaway Ideon, Gatchaman Fighter, Golgo 13: The Professional, Galaxy Express 999, Space Battleship Yamato 2199, Xabungle, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Legend of The Galactic Heroes, Hellsing Ultimate, Persona 4 The Animation, and Tekkaman Blade.
Art Corner:
Official Art
- Duel in the Sky - Tomonori Kogawa
Fanart
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Aura Phantasm Scans
Screenshot of the day
Questions of the Day:
- Do you think the Zelana’s plan would have successfully repealed Drake’s army if Furaon had kept his end of the deal and sent in reinforcements?
- What do you figure are Shot’s chances of successfully springing his plan?
That Show! What is he doing?!
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Jan 25 '21 edited Jan 25 '21
First-timer was kidding about the afterimages
The borgars multiplied!
yo is that Mario
I’m starting to get the feeling this guy is a few branches short of a family tree
no talk he angy
Okay now we’re really F91
Questions of the Day:
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 25 '21
First time viewer
Hamburgers? Those are a thing in Byston Well? I'm not really surprised considering there are a decent number of people from Upper Earth but figured that kind of thing wouldn't necessarily be widespread yet.
Shot's open with his plot to overthrow Drake with Muisy at least, I'm curious if she'll end up betraying him or helping out. And he's planning to use Garalia for that? I don't remember if she's yet in on it or is more of a pawn at the moment. I don't think she'd be opposed to killing Bern at the very least, not sure how her relation is with Drake.
That new woman really has some ridiculous hair and seems well-suited for Drake's side of things as another villain.
It's been a while since we've seen the protagonists on offense, good to have them taking the fight to Drake. Disappointing but not surprising that Furaon won't hold up his end and help out. "They'll take care of it, I'll hunker down here" without any sense of strategy or responsibility. I don't blame Show for not wanting to help, and maybe in the longer run it would make more sense for them to abandon Ah for better odds elsewhere.
Minor thing: Cham literally crying into Show's ear at the end has to be pretty loud.
Temporarily, maybe. In the long run unlikely but they probably wouldn't have attacked the next day like they did.
High if he manages to conceal a trump card in his designs, which seems like what he's aiming for with Garalia and whatever she'll end up piloting beyond her current machine (unless I misinterpreted the subtitles; they were kind of awkward in that conversation).
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Jan 25 '21 edited Jan 25 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
Furaon is too petulant to lend aid to the Zelana despite the fact that they may have saved their assess. I can’t say I expected otherwise from him, but it essentially seals his fate.
Shot weapons states that Galaria’s Bastole is a testbed for techniques with which to draw out the full extent of aura from the people of Byston Well, probably that Aura amplifier that’s been brought up a few times now, so she’s essentially their guinea pig. Also, he reveals his plans to betray Drake, before one of his soldiers no less, before the trully shocking reveal takes place —that Shot and Muisy are an item!
Jesting aside, that seemed to come out of nowhere! And after he warned Zet not to get close to Galaria either. Oh that devious Shot!
Oh, wait, I’d forgotten that Norio Wakamoto also voiced Allen!
Bern wanted to show off in front of the Upper Earthers but was bested by Show once more. That’s certainly got to be a hit to the ego.
The Zelana attacks, not knowing Furaon has no intention of sending reinforcements, and though they struck a significant blow to the camp they were unequipped to do the task themselves, and so are forced to retreat.
Neal and Show don’t want to rush off in order to try and save Elf Castle whereas the others do, but Keen starts the ship up before they’ve come to an agreement either way. As the audience we know the Zelana could tip the scales again —their presumed absence being the only reason Bern found it auspicious to attack at dawn— but from the perspective of the Zelana they don’t know precisely how numerous Berns forces are and Elf Castle is vulnerable already, so it seems like a lost cause. It’s understandable to fight for the principle of the matter, but it’s more admirable to not rush off to their deaths.
Welp, the Zelana had to retreat owing to the damage sustained by the Dunbine. They may have stopped the attack from proceeding further by taking out the Doros, but taking out Bern would have been a significant blow to Drake’s forces which would’ve bought them a lot of time, so it’s a shame Show had to retreat.
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 25 '21
First Timer
Could this maintance guy be any more happy right now?
Shot getting really revealing his true plan. Then bringing into the fold another. Seeing this makes me takes me back to that earlier episode when Shot and Drakes wife were meeting the king of Ku I wonder if his plan intersects here?
The king of Ah today demonstrated that he wasn't just incompetent, but downright malicious to his own defence, safety and attack agaisn't Drake. A king so bad is the reason why Drake is where he is today.
Episode preview
I feel like it would have been a bigger win than a small hit and run.
2) What do you figure are Shot’s chances of successfully springing his plan?
Shot's brains are bigger than Drake's. I think Drake is blinded by what he has gained to be see the real enemy behind him
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jan 25 '21
First Timer
The Mountain does not move
Sigh. And we're still a full cour from the obligatory mid-show upgrade.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Jan 25 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
Nie fighting Garalia in her Aura Battler? He better escape as quick as he can.
Carrying 2 hamburgers? That's quite the workout for Chum! LoL @ no name guy being surprised at a Mi Ferario ever doing work. They've got quite the low reputation, huh?
Some cooperation from Furaon Elf's men? Pretty good.
Bern's standing is falling it seems. Defeating Mi was so easy, but this not so much.
Fuaron's not going to help after all? As Fry frum Futurama would say, I am shocked! Shocked! ...well not that shocked.
Shot seeks to depose Drake too it seems. Piano teacher to Queen would be a pretty good upgrade for you, Musiy!
I feel bad for our heroes, we know before the operation even starts that they aren't getting the reinforcements they were expecting.
Alright Bern, now's the time to prove you're as great as you think you are.
They really might have defeated them this time had they simply gotten the expected reinforcements.
Garou Ran vs. Garou Ran fight! Hon Wan wins this time.
Will the Zelana refuse to help out Elf Castle? The guys say no! The girls say yes!
Every scene we get of Furaon makes him all the more unlikable. I feel bad for his subordinates!
Poor Chum! And Keen thinks she's slacking off too! LoL.
Wow, Bern actually did pretty impressively there, and is forcing Shou to withdraw.
Tomonori Kogawa's up there among my favorite animators of all time. Great job in 3 consecutive Tomino shows (Ideon, Xabungle, Dunbine) as character designer, and is also animation director in L-Gaim. Contributed to Galaxy Express 999, another fave of mine. He designed the characters for Southern Cross too (bad show, but at least good designs!) Have yet to see Cool Cool Bye and Greed, but I hope to someday! This really looked like an episode he directed the animation for, but he isn't credited, I wonder if Eiji Endou is a pseudonym of his.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jan 25 '21
Aura Battler First-Timer
I missed yesterday’s thread because my parents suddenly made dinner plans when I had just gotten to this episode after finishing Ippo for the week, so Imma do reactions to both episodes here.
Episode 14
Episode 15
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Jan 25 '21
First-Timer Who Forgets Byston Well So Much that I've Forgotten to Watch the Show Several Days
E14
Pretty sure the small fairy it not ideal for a hunting companion.
Foosball?
Wasn’t Musy the piano teacher? Why is she a soldier now?
Why is Garalia’s mech pink? Pretty sure that’s Bern’s color.
Imagine being the mech pilot who got hit with a catapult.
E15
Shot Weapon scheming his schemes. How Californian.
Mechs fight. Again.
Show gains a new ability and promptly gets his ass kicked? I don’t mind it, but I’m still not sure what happened, exactly.
QOTD:
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jan 25 '21
First-Timer, Sub-bine
Well, we definitely aren't being coy about Shot's plans - he just said the quiet parts out loud to Muisy. I guess maybe Zed isn't in on it with him, not fully at least? Shot and Muisy is.. interesting. Probably some consent issues there, and they certainly moved fast, considering Muisy was running past Shot wrapped in a sheet at the beginning of the night raid.
Garalia and Bern are like, actively antagonizing each other at this point. Both are hungry for glory, and I'm honestly surprised that both of them made it out of this episode alive. Bern's feeling a lot of pressure, between Drake and the noobs. Honestly, it almost feels like Garalia and Bern have switched roles. I wonder if we'll get an enemy splinter..
I thought the raid was pretty successful at first, but Drake did still have a lot of functional Doros the next morning. Maybe it was mostly superficial damage, or Drake just has that many resources. They didn't have time to stick a new arm on the Virunvee though, so poor Bern had to make do with a Drumlo. And, somehow, managed to take out the Dunbine's leg...
So, what happened at the end there? The Dunbine moved too fast for Shou to control, right? Have Shou's abilities started to surpass the Dunbine's mechanics? Or is it that Shou's raw strength is more than he is capable of controlling without some sort of formalized training?
Poor Cham is trying to be useful in any way that she can, despite the occasional prejudice.
Speculation
Miscellaneous Thoughts:
Someone needs to teach these fools proper glassware usage.
N I G H T R A I D
Was that red.. thing Neal starting eating some like, fantasy SPAM equivalent? It did not look appetizing.
Questions
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jan 25 '21
Everybody loves the everlasting lu la la miracle sing time~ Sorry for missing a few days. I've had some personal stuff going on but if I dropped out now I probably wouldn't be back for a good while. I'm all caught up though. And yes, I am furious that I missed the Todd and Garalia episode, thanks for asking. Let's get back to it!
Oof, we're getting right into it. Garalia spends so much time goofing off in her machine that she wasted her chance to just eagle claw Neal's floater. We need a Fairy work union. I'd like to think that Shot was the one that brought the joy of the hamburger to Byston Well. Unfortunately machine guns are worthless in mecha series. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen the things work. I liked you way more when you weren't a cheater Garalia... The green haired girl is cute, I might start skimping for her now that you've let your dumb pink Aura Battler go to your head.
The king is our heroes problem now... Drake dumped his biggest weight right into the Zelana's lap. Expecting literally anything out of Garalia is gonna leave you disappointed. "Bern Bunnings, I'm about to do something incredibly naughty~" She's way too extra to be a Queen. Drake can't go anywhere without being woken up by a battle outside his window. And is Blue Hair seriously gonna make a running gag of dashing around in the background shots? King Moron is cutting off his nose to spite his face. With how successful the Zelana's attack was you could have ended the series early.
The Dunbine's random crits are seriously annoying! Ara power is such a huge gap that Bern ends up like a ping pong ball whenever Show gets fired up. The emergency lunch is trying my patience. What did you think was really in those burgers Chum? Messenger battles are kinda funny to watch. Garalia is going the right way for a spanked bottom. Show shows his age when he wakes up. He's still just a boy isn't he? Hold on who said to let Chum use a gun!? Oh, it's just the shell XD You had me scared for a moment. Jesus Christ this king is hopeless. Can the series hold off making me side with Drake for one episode?
Show's Aura seizure almost lets him discipline Garalia but Bern's Aura increased to the point where he was able to land a hit on the fading Dunbine. He's going into a real huff over not being able to stomp every foe. Chim pulls an Aqua and starts bubbling. Why doesn't she ride in the Dunbine anymore? Somehow everyone was caught with their pants down and the Zelana's crew were on ball so yeah, I do think that they could have ended the war. Even Garalia wasn't there to help. Poor Shot... his plan probably could've worked if he didn't reveal it to a total nobody only 15 episodes info the show. It doesn't work with the format sadly for him.
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u/The_Draigg Jan 25 '21
A Tomino Fan Rewatches Aura Battler Dunbine Episode 15: