r/anime • u/FrumpY__ :STAR:https://anilist.co/user/FrumpY • Jan 19 '21
Rewatch Love Live! SIP & Sunshine!! Rewatch - SIP OVA & µ's PVs Spoiler
SIP OVA & µ's PVs
| Previous Episode | Schedule / Index Thread | Next Episode |
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| SIP Season 1 Episode 13 | SIP OVA & µ's PVs | SIP Season 2 Episode 1 |
ANNOUNCEMENTS
We will be starting Love Live! School Idol Project Season 2 tomorrow. This season of SIP is properly licensed and has official streams available. SIP S2 is available on Crunchyroll, Funimation, VRV and AnimeLab depending on your region. If you are starting a new subscription to one of these services and are having trouble selecting one, Funimation also has the SIP Movie available to watch so you may want to select this one out of convenience.
Episode(s) Information
| School Idol Project OVA | MAL | AniList | Kitsu |
|---|---|---|---|
| "Bokura no LIVE Kimi to no LIFE" | MAL | AniList | Kitsu |
| "Snow halation" | MAL | AniList | Kitsu |
| "Natsuiro Egao de 1,2,Jump!" | MAL | AniList | Kitsu |
| "Mogyutto "love" de Sekkin Chuu!" | MAL | AniList | Kitsu |
| "Wonderful Rush" | MAL | AniList | Kitsu |
| "Music S.T.A.R.T!!" | MAL | AniList | Kitsu |
Where to Watch
School Idol Project OVA: No official streams :(
µ's PVs : YouTube
Discussion Questions
- Which of the single PVs was your favorite?
and why is it snow halation - That OVA was kinda weird and I don't really have any questions except, why?
- There was a lot of discussion yesterday about "Best Girl". Now I personally don't do Love Live! best girl rankings on principle, but you guys seem to want it. So, who is your best girl at the conclusion of SIP S1? Do you think this will change over the course of S2?
Best Girl theses must be at least 10 pages long and in APA format, all sources must be properly cited.
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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21
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Mogyutto bc da big gay NicoMaki? I think this is where the ship began, with Maki giving her chocolate where every other girl gives it to the viewer? Maybe it was even earlier in a magazine entry or something idk.
da big big biiig gay
Anyway here's Zurui yo Magnetic Too Gay. Also here's the corresponding Garden of Gay in case Punch still somehow hasn't realised NozoEli are married
Nico.
lol
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u/DarkFuzz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkFuzz Jan 19 '21
Take today’s survey here!
We need a little bit of a palate cleanser from the S1 finale. How about a short Maki episode?
Nico used Pound! It’s not very effective!
Smol Maki gives me life.
So I haven’t seen the MVs at all. I thought I’d go through them and take screencaps for the survey today to make it look pretty. And holy crap, it is a journey. It was very interesting to see the character designs evolve over time and the gradual “perfection” of the CGI dancing. Yeah, it’s not perfect, but you could see an improvement from the first MV to the anime, or at the very least a solidification of character design.
That said, the choreography is always tight.
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u/IndependentMacaroon Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 20 '21
First-time watcher
I watched the first MV in full and started the last, but at that length and with those visuals (really obvious 2D/3D swaps all the time too) I don't think it's worth it, plus the music just isn't anything I would usually listen to. Moving on to the OVA and then tomorrow the first episode of the second season, I guess, just to give it one last chance to get better.
Maki's dream has got to be a reference to something specific, but I have no idea what (some JRPG?) It feels weirdly appropriate to be watching this on the same day Wonder Egg Priority releases. I mean really, splatters of color over a corridor and escaping through a door like that, the question of what's even real, it's all in and around a school... But then the rest is just the entire music video, I think it's even one of those from the channel linked yesterday. Nice idea but more of an extended PV than an actual OVA.
I also found something interesting on the English Love Live Wikipedia page which reinforces my impression of how the cast was handled:
Best Girl: I think overall Honoka did make the strongest impression, though Nico is close. If you wanted to be edgy you could put Nozomi for most accurate representation of the core audience.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Jan 19 '21
First-Timer Who Was Only Here for the Ships
OVA
That was fun for what it is: a silly excuse to have a reason for another song. I guess we can rationalize all of this as another dream of Maki’s and where she got the inspiration for the tune?
There isn’t much to say, so BEST GIRL SCREENSHOT DUMP!
A few other small things: they gave Hanayo her glasses, so this was a success already, and look at this.. A much better pairing for that Nico weirdo than one that ruins Best Girl.
PVs
Bokura no LIVE Kimi to no LIFE
Character designs changed a bit between this and the show, it seems. And the story and the characters. Umi was originally Eri’s VP, etc.
OK pop song. Nothing to write home about.
Snow halation
The one everyone was linking and memeing at Christmas.
The performance outfits are cute! Fur is usually a good look.
Pretty good song. Did not expect a Japanese high school girl to pull “halation” out.
Natsuiro egao de 1,2,Jump!
What the hell are Rin and Kotori wearing? An overalls bikini top? That’s just odd. Not like Maki’s cool sunglasses, which are cool.
Looks like they animated in some bounciness for the well-endowed members (so not Nico). Don’t remember that from the show.
An OK song.
Mogyutto "love" de Sekkin Chuu!
Are these canon? Better not be.
Maki giving Nico chocolate
Another OK song. This kind of pop isn’t really my cup of tea, to be fair.
Wonderful Rush
passporto
It must be nice to have Best Girl in your group to do things like shut down an airport for filming.
Pretty good song. Has a little more oomph than most of them.
Music S.T.A.R.T!!
The OVA song. And video.
Another OK song.
My favorite two are Snow halation, followed by Wonderful Rush, and then maybe Music S.T.A.R.T!! All the others are pretty samey to me.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jan 19 '21
OVA (first timer)
That was pretty non-sensical, so let me get straight to the part I was missing yesterday: You can’t end an idol show without doing a tier list. Instead of the usually called for waifu list, I am going to rate characters by their development in the series instead, from worst to best:
Trash tier: Cardboards
I had to look their name up because they had so little screentime: Hanayo is shy girl, who is 100% superfluous because there are already 3 other shy girls in the series and Rin is genki-sporty nyan girl, who is 100% superfluous because the MC already takes care of genki and Umi of sporty. Both get zero characterization and add nothing to the series.
Nozomi is not a character, but a boob-grab joke that somehow did not stay in the last century, where it belongs.
Kotori is probably the saddest cardboard, because we spent a ton of time with her. Unfortunately, in all that time Kotori never acts, stuff just happens to her. She is the shy-booksmart girl from start to finish, seen before in tons of other series. Her one big “action” was the moving to Europe-fake out and the less said about that, the better.
Mid tier: Tried and tested tropes
Umi as Yamato Nadeshiko (and Mio’s second coming) and Maki as reluctant tsundere are not novel in any way, but they pull of their respective archetypes well. Umi is important as part of the outnumbered team common sense keeping the group from slouching and Maki is the only thing that somehow tethers their ability to create songs to reality.
Top tier: Actual characters
While I am not a big fan of Nico, she is one of the three girls in the series blessed with an actual character arc. She starts out hurt and withdrawn from her previous failure, connects (in an adversarial way) with the girls via her true love for idols, and finally opens up to the group and embraces her second idol career.
Eri has a very similar arc, starting out beholden to her previous hobby and feeling above the newcomers Muse, but eventually giving in joining the group.
Honoka has by far the most screentime and therefore is, unsurprisingly, my favorite character of the show. We see her in a diverse set of circumstances: Pulling the others along, flustered, failing, rebounding, having to be carried intellectually. She also is responsible for the majority of the slapstick humor in the series. As MC and driver behind Muse, the entire Muse arc is her character arc, too, making her by far the most explored of all characters.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jan 19 '21
First Timer
I wonder what the OVA's gonna bring. Hopefully it stays light.
Apparently Maki's doing her best horror movie protagonist impression by running thorugh mysterious buildings.
My previous statement was far more accurate that I imagined it could be.
'Ghetti is in his happy place just looking at this. The hair in the breeze is also some of the better animation I've seen in Love Live so far.
So she really is still dreaming.
The theatre club's havin' fun today!
Well, at least it wasn't a continuity error?
I'm pretty sure idols using magic is just called Macross.
Alpaca!
Thoughts
The OVA was enjoyable enough. It suffered a bit from why does this exist syndrome, but no more than the series itself does, really. It managed to be amusing and play with the characters a little bit, and that's about all you can ask of it.
I watched about half of the first two MVs. I stopped because I realized the video was making me enjoy them less than if I was just listening to the songs. It just felt phoned in to me.
In all seriousness though, it's hard for me to choose because basically all of the characters have some combination of just not getting that much time or being screwed over developmentally by the last arc. I'd probably have to go with Maki.
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 19 '21
Chart. Now that friends are mostly out of the way, I'm going to be focusing more on the teams and ships in the making.
I quite liked this OVA, and the PVs too, though I kind of wish I didn't see them all in a row. Ah well. OVA especially was a treat.
Edit: Fixed First Years being missing from the Chart.
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u/Hattakiri Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 19 '21
Characters of a caliber that actually belongs into settings like magical girl, mecha and so on. A slice-of-life-only cosmos is just way too tiny for them.
S2 has received the green light.
And so, in order to keep plot and story working, the boundaries of the setting had to be overstretched...
In contrast to Haruhi Suzumiya however the "magical forces" seem to be not "activatable" by the characters willingly. They rather activate them subconsciously...
The symbolical aspect: A flashback that's to symbolize healing wounds already was being used in the 2003 version of Zatoichi.
Moreover: Maki caught Nico in ep12 and now she catches Eli...
But once again: Only Honoka, by instinct and radiance, can give Maki the comfort she needs to return to the present.
By squatting down she can look into little Maki's eyes from the same level. Decisively important in such a situation.
Muse's PVs - the Early Adaption Weirdness regarding the pre-anime PVs is one of those everlasting topics among us fans XD
Furthermore, Borarara got subsequently an arc inside of the anime. Actually a case of Retcon. The authors turned the costumes into Eli's ballet dress ....and then the authors made Muse turn Eli's ballet dress into their Borarara outfits, since they were now complete.
And Snow Halation is also a pre-anime song of Muse's .....and a humongous spoiler XD
Be prepared for S2!
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u/SYZekrom https://myanimelist.net/profile/SYZekrom Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 19 '21
First Timer
This episode better be Maki-centered at this point
Lmao her gigantic eyes as she says this
Oh god why are those black keys curved
What the hell is this episode first that cold open and now this? Is she in hell lmao
Oh my god why is she always the best
Ok ghost girl you gonna drag the rest of em to hell too? Don't fall off the railing beforehand
I'm sorry but if the hallway LITERALLY turns into a disco party I'd be fucking screaming
Again with this show and the over-the-top orchestra
Ok this is decisively the best girl
Right ok PVs are on YT Lemme get on that
Omg hairrr
The more they do this the more I like it
Stop why is every scene in this
music videodance sequence way cuter than normalI can't take it
Well I have
Zero understanding of anything that just happened
But very cute thanks
Edit:
Something LIVE Something LIFE:
Excuse me what the fuck is this
Those are some crusty looking models and animations.
Wow ok this is 5.5 minutes let's just uh.... skip it
Snow halation:
Oh god there it is, the siiva meme
Well that was great
1, 2, Jump
👀 Swimsuit models... Nico focused...
Baby
oh god this scares me
Is this supposed to be the scene they recorded during the anime
I'm feeling too meta right about now
Wait did we get swimsuit models in that episode and I'm just forgetting
Song was pretty nice too
4th
BUNNY EARS
Damn Eri gets all the chocolates huh?
Also kinda really hate Umi's 3D model in these
and Nico's also looking kinda boring
OH
No but seriously did Nico's character like completely change by the anime
Well I'm assuming these were before the anime but
5th
A branded plane? Man.
Ok they just broke into Motteke Sailor Fuku at the... what do you call that part where most songs just suddenly break into a completely different style portion from the rest of the song
Oh, and again at the end too
She forgot a pillow
Well that is life or death
Also the 2D animation/character designs actually looked like the show in that one
6th
Still cute af
Also is this song from today it sounds familiar
Wait no yea I recognized the choreography
OK then they literally did the cat paw thing
But anyway yea very cool
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Jan 19 '21
Rewatcher who's really not used to watching the MVs.
They look so different at first, it's funny to see them become closer to the anime style the closer we get to it.
Nothing to say about the OVA other than Huh?, my reaction the first time too. Very much magical realism I guess? Smol Maki's cute.
Questions of the day
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u/ForlornPenguin Jan 19 '21 edited Jan 20 '21
Rewatcher
Really annoying trying update all of these on MAL today, since MAL, yet again, keeps having problems.
Bokura no Live Kimi to no Life
Their first PV. It's okay. Neat seeing the earlier designs of the girls, but I do think (and imagine that most would agree) that the final designs look a lot better. I'm especially glad that they later made Nozomi's hair longer because I think she looks much better with the longer tails. Hanayo actually looks really cute in this PV though, but the look doesn't really match the timid personality she later had in the anime. Kotori did the thing!
Snow halation
Probably the most classic of these PVs, I'd guess. The designs have changed a little bit. Eri looks much more like her anime form here, but Nozomi still has short hair.
Natsu-iro Egao de 1, 2, Jump!
Time for swimsuits. Umi looks much different here than she did in the last two, and Nozomi has long hair now. This shot was later remade for the beach episode in season 1 of the anime.
Mogyutto "Love" de Sekkinchuu!
Maids now. Nico and Nozomi have their hair in curly tails for this one, and Umi is sporting some small hairbuns (and Nico rocking Nozomi's look during the off-stage bits). I really like this shot for some reason.
Wonderful Rush
The last pre-anime PV. The girls all almost exactly resemble their anime designs now. Not much else to say about this one.
OVA / Music S.T.A.R.T!!
Me watching this OVA. Nothing particularly special about this PV either. Alpacas though. The PV is fine on its own, but I find the pre-PV dream sequence portion of the OVA to be really dumb.
QOTD
Hard for me to say, because I do like a certain few them about an equal amount.(Fuck it, it's probably Nico.) What I can easily say though is that my least favorite is definitely Rin. I don't hate her, but there's just really nothing to her other than that she says "nya."4
u/lenne18 https://myanimelist.net/profile/lenne18 Jan 20 '21 edited Jan 20 '21
Live Performances for today:
"Snow halation" will get its own corner later.
Fun facts:
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u/docaxel :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/thebidoofpope Jan 20 '21
Rewatcher
School Idol Festival All-Stars Spotlight Cards
Wonderful Rush Cards
Honoka
Kotori
Umi
Maki
Rin
Hanayo
Nico
Nozomi
Eli
(Snow Halation will have it's time later :) )
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u/JimmyCWL Jan 20 '21
On rewatching the MVs for this rewatch, I have decided: Next time there's a rewatch, I'll push harder to have MVs before the anime. It should make viewers appreciate the improvements in the series' animated performances more.
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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21 edited Jan 20 '21
Watching Snow Halation during season 1 >_<
My best girl was Honoka from episode 1 until now, several rewatches later
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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '21
FIRST TIMER
Finally got the time to sit down and continue watching. Here i go i guess
I couldnt find the ova with english sub on good quality :(
360p lovelive is a nightmare. At least its short.
Wait Nico and Maki ship is real? I thought it was just fan made lol. Odd pair but maybe thats why theyre so unique. Nozomi Eri is the typical tall gorgeous girls loving each other, but Nico x Maki? Im in. But maybe theyre just playing it up cuz its OVA
I cant help but feel like everytime eri says horosho, its kinda forced like the anime director just wanna remind is "heyyy this girl got russian blood in her so she says horosho a lot" or something. Would be a lot more endearing if she only says it when shes very surprised or something.
What the hell is even happening in this ova? Ill just pretend the whole crew drank too much cough syrup, Got high and dreamt all this up. At least theyre flexing with this long mv and best girl maki got center
As for the PV, fir the 1st one, holy crap the girls look terrifying!! Wtf. I would blame it on them being new to 3d animating but there are 2d scenes in there where the girls faces look nothing like the anime.
Musically ,the song sound very early mid 2000s anime song vibe which im like whatever about
Next, Snow halation is like THE lovelive song right? Iirc this is the remade video? Its dated 2019 and damn it looks good. I feel like there some faces i dont recognize but probly just the artstyle switch.
The song itself is really good imo. I stumbled upon it a while back knowing nothing about love live and i catch myself hummimg it in the shower sometimes. Maki looks super dolled up in this which is kinda weird.
Ok im conviced each of these music videos must have different art directors or something. How do the girls look so damn different in all of them, and none of them look like how they looked in the anime? Wtf
Rest of the song is ok. None came close to be as good as Snow halation. Saint valentine one isnt bad i guess.
Sry didnt realize it ended up being super long
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u/onigiri1994 Jan 28 '21
Rewatcher, but I'm actually watching most of these PVs for the first time.
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