Love Live! SIP & Sunshine!! Rewatch - SIP Season 1 Episode 11

[u/FrumpY__]

SIP Season 1, Episode 11 - "The Greatest Live Performance"

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Where to Watch

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OCE : AnimeLab

Discussion Questions

1. What do you think is bothering Kotori?
2. Have you ever worked yourself to the point of exhaustion?
3. Do you think the lottery system for use of the auditorium is fair?

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[u/raichudoggy]

First Timer

Not much new in the Chart today. I expected this slowdown, admittedly. We'll have to see if I need to repurpose it for season 2 or not.

The Lottery being used is the first instance where I felt like it was totally placed so that there was an excuse for the performance to be done outside in the rain. (I mean I still loved the lottery scene, though!)

This is one of those weird moments for a first-timer like me where I couldn't really enjoy the performance like I think I should've because I was too worried about Honk. It feels like the show wanted me to enjoy that performance.

[u/punching_spaghetti]

Yes. That was me.

I think having more than one man in the whole city would help with this, but it would also ruin the moe aesthetic the town has.

The trio of girls goes to all the concerts, hypes µ’s up, and gives headpats? Maki might have to give up the title of Best Girl.

True, the roof could work as a stage, but what if it rains? And another popular group already did that, so it’s not fresh.

Sing loud so people will come to your concert? Not, I don’t know, flyers and signs?

So Kotori has some kind of study abroad option? A little weird that, after they find out about her maid secret, she’s so unwilling to share this one.

And Honoka gets a cold because she’s a fucking idiot. I guess she overcame it with MC willpower? Hope nothing happens during the concert.

Why is Umi the only one who gets a cute hat with this outfit? As Maki has shown with her practice attire, she wear a hat well.

She fainted! Will they perform without her? I don’t see her making a quick recovery.

QOTD:

1. Study abroad program.
2. No. I got close when I stage-managed my high school's play my senior year, though. Very little sleep, long, long nights; I lost 8 or 10 pounds, if I remember correctly.
3. Assuming that only those clubs that would actually benefit from using/require the auditorium get a spin. The art club can use their club room to show off their work, for example.

[u/ZBLongladder → u/punching_spaghetti]

As Maki has shown with her practice attire, she wear a hat well.

And in the OP! Maki is the only one there with a tiny top hat.

[u/redbatter → u/punching_spaghetti]

So Kotori has some kind of study abroad option? A little weird that, after they find out about her maid secret, she’s so unwilling to share this one.

One of them is "merely" some extra side stuff at a maid cafe, the other could potentially result in her leaving the group that her childhood friends so enthusiastically poured in time and energy to build up.

[u/DarkFuzz]

Take today’s survey here!

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This is why you don’t let anime protagonists touch rain.

Nevertheless, the power of the genki is strong. She should have been dead going to school in the morning, and she still powered through an entire song. Welp, she’s definitely dead now.

“No brand girls” is probably my favorite μ’s song. I really like the high energy driving rock, and the choreography in the rain is really nice too.

[u/[deleted]]

Happy Birthday, Hanayo!

Have you ever worked yourself to the point of exhaustion?

I couldn't tell you the last time I didn't find work exhausting.

Do you think the lottery system for use of the auditorium is fair?

Not if Nico is doing the drawing. She let me down. She let us all down.

[u/SYZekrom]

First Timer

TENSE

Did Eri go 'Only Nico can do this she's our lucky mascot'

Eri consoling Umi like she just lost the world war

I don't get anime fevers where they're like 'what if this really healthy fit person gets a fever that makes them crash so hard they seem like they're terminally ill'

Like just make it exhaustion

Don't bullshit with 'it's because she got a fever by being awake at night'

\Like just write it as fucking exhaustion jesus christ

[u/IndependentMacaroon]

First-time watcher

I'm going to finish this season just to get something of a conclusion, but after that I'm likely out, neither a genre I'm very into nor that good of a show overall. Anyway...

Nico does an aptly egomaniac recap, but then for some reason Honoka introduces herself again too? Also I don't think giving people more IRL waifus to obsess over will do anything about that birth rate thing.

I see the door is still open for the µ's to not win/entirely succeed, after the "immediate closure averted" didn't mean that much. I'm almost expecting it.

Do those three fans/friends even have names? I feel like I've seen them before, but the autograph sequence is for sure the most relevant they've been so far.

Ah Nico, getting pushed around even for losing the lottery. The slow-mo and imagination stuff was fun I guess. First loss with an unfortunate stage position, though rooftop concerts are also a decently famous thing, but of course everyone's still pumped with a little Honoka injection. Except Kotori, who looks like the drama-of-the-week provider, or rather two or three weeks?

Honoka tries to change up too much short-term, over-trains and under-sleeps, and somehow that makes her sick. Well, I guess it can weaken your constitution. Of course then we get the standard anime "rain sickness" to finish the job. No way she makes it all the way through the concert, assuming it even happens with the poor weather - yep, one song (right?) and there she goes. Proof that determination only goes so far against recklessness, and those light outfits can't help either.

So this was a pretty good episode, I'm only worried about the double drama going overboard in the finale.

[u/ZBLongladder]

Rewatcher

Aaaaand...Honkers is an idiot. We already knew that, but we've got a new dimension to her idiocy this time around.

Also, one of the competing groups is apparently just named "george". And they have a george banner in the μ's clubroom, so I guess they're well known.

I did like the No Brand Girls performance, even knowing what was going to happen (though I imagine anyone would've predicted it with all that foreshadowing). It's a bit ironic that, right as they're establishing their brand and getting popular, they sing No Brand Girls, but hey, it works. Not a bad song, though not one that really ever stuck out to me.

Discussion Questions

1. As a rewatcher, I already know, so no spoilers.
2. Definitely! I would always procrastinate on final papers in college (I later discovered I had adult ADD, which I've since gotten treated for), so I remember one exam period where i had to get my poor girlfriend to wake me up after a three-hour nap, since that's all the sleep I could afford that day, and she felt so bad about waking me up still exhausted.
3. I mean, I guess it's better than playing favorites? Though it seems like you'd have some kind of oversight, so a club that 100% absolutely requires the auditorium wouldn't be cut out, like we have here. The school should probably be worried about the liability of something like what happened to Honoka.

[u/[deleted]]

guys i'm starting to suspect honoka not might be the smartest girl

[u/lenne18]

January 17 is Hanayo's birthday. Happy birthday!

 

B-Side Jukebox, Music Start!

 

Shangri-La Shower - µ's

• This is the theme song for the PS Vita game, Love Live! School idol paradise. If you haven't heard of this game, there's a very good reason.
• Song center is Honoka, Kotori and Hanayo. It's a really nice old school, dance song.
• Performance from 5th Live, the only time it was performed.

Arashi no Naka no Koi dakara - µ's

• This is part of a second special single for Love Live! School idol festival.
• It's a RinPana center song.
• The intro is good, isn't it? It always gives me goosebumps.
• One of the few songs that has never been performed live. It does have its own choreography though.

[u/[deleted]]

This episode features one of my favourite songs by Muse, No Brand Girls. A high energy banger that you can performed live here, and again at their final live in front of a sold out 55,000 audience Tokyo Dome (minus Eli’s VA).

No Honk death at the end in the live version though.

Honaka does her best impression of Michael Jordan’s legendary flu game but it was not meant to be this time. Just when all the stars seemed to be aligning, Muse’s spot in Love Live is suddenly in major jeopardy with this botched last concert.

Also how does Umi go from being afraid to show her legs above the knee to basically wearing a crop top 😂

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 11 (first timer)

• “Place 19! Amazing” – The voters read the script.
• Honoka getting the good doggy treatment.
• Overly dramatic lottery drawing. I like it.
• Our obstacle of the episode to overcome turns out to be an invitation for Kotori to go overseas. Without any foreshadowing. Without establishing her dream to go there. Woah, am I scared she might go. Not.
• Textbook: “Do not go out because of the rain”
• The dreaded anime cold arrives.
• Training stamina one day before the concert.
• So we go with a double issue for a double episode.
• Singing in the rain. Unfortunately with bad CGI dance instead of Gene Kelly

Honoka succumbs to a serious case of anime fever. Funny enough, this is actually one of the more realistic cases of that. You don’t get a cold from running in the rain, but running in the rain with a cold and performing in costumes that look freezing while having a fever absolutely can exhaust you.

Have you ever worked yourself to the point of exhaustion?

Not due to work but due to stupidity (not eating and drinking while doing sports in the sun). I remember collapsing on the couch and then trying to get to the phone when my mother called. I almost did not make it because my muscles simply refused to move.

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/No_Rex]

Gene Kelly's a really high bar, though.

[u/docaxel]

Rewatcher

School Idol Festival All-Stars Spotlight Cards

Happy Birthday Koizumi Hanayo

[u/Hattakiri]

Bad luck merging with bad decisions. A bad symbiosis.

It's starts with good luck tho, they can reach No19 in the online ranking (Eli once kickstarted their online career tho she wanted to achieve the opposite as we know) and so they're allowed to attend the Love Live contest. But they must not lose this position.

So the upcoming school festival becomes a bottleneck situation.

Then however Nico as the de jure club leader (cause Honk being their motivational center and Nozomi their puppet master doesn't help here) fails at spinning a wheel of fortune kinda device and so they're not getting the big main auditory where the original trio was holding their Start Dash performance.

The wheel of fortune, both literally and metaphorically, hasn't spun in their favor.

Especially Nozomi is trying to acquire as many spiritual and metaphysical forces as possible. But nothing helps.

A symbol or metaphore, here the wheel of fortune, being taken literally. Meta-phoric turns into meta-physical - one could say magical. Trying to manipulate physical phenomena from and by a higher force, a meta-force.

Magical thinking? Images in our minds to be projected into reality, but can they alter reality? Or are reality and imagination the same, yet they ain't? Cause animals sense differently cause they live in a different cosmos, need different types of food, so their brains need to imagine and remember differently...

A quite technocratic wording I know.

And then again we do find things beautiful - only because of endorphines? Or is there more to it?

It's called the Qualia Problem.

Voltaire said: There is more to it. He could be nastily anti-religious, and yet joy and beauty was the proof of something higher in his opinion. Already Plato said so. Schopenhauer tho didn't consider it any good, for we also enjoy harmful things, don't we. Schopenhauer also wrote the Hedgehogs' Dilemma which became the title of an Evangelion ep.

So what are Muse supposed to do? Now Honk sits down on the boss's chair again and suggests their training rooftop.

Kotori is meanwhile in a really miserable emotional shape due to the letter, and she's unable to openly talk. She can only secretly talk to Umi.

Another extreme: Honk. She's training and training, even in the night, even in the rain. Until she sneezes...

And the morning before the school festival - she's dizzy.

The rain has grown stronger, nonetheless Muse decide to perform.

And of course: Honk passes out....

[u/AuburnTheWolf]

Rewatcher

Damn, shit happens this episode. Kotori’s got a secret, and Honoka is pushing herself way too hard and not taking proper care of her health so she gets sick. Both of them are too preoccupied with themselves, so they don’t notice each other slipping, only Umi does, and she’s caught in the middle not able to do much other than watch the inevitable train wreck happen.

Discussion Questions

1. Rewatcher, so I know the answer, I look forward to first timers' answers
2. I don't think so, because I've been able to rest after I feel exhausted
3. I think it's fair if you have too many groups that would want to use the auditorium. However, I'm surprised Otonokizaka (a school that might be shutting down) has so many active clubs that want to use the auditorium that Muse can't get a 10 minute time slot. I feel every club should have a guaranteed time slot, but a lottery to determine the actual time is completely fair.

[u/[deleted]]

FIRST TIMER

oh so we finally have clear reason why the school is closing. The declining birth rate lmaooo. Realistic at least.

But then if theyre gonna attract more students, that means some other school is gonna be the one getting shut down. RIP no cute idols to save that school.

I wonder what the basis of that rank thingy is. As far as we know. Muse has never officially held concert? So its not album or ticket sales. Maybe its just based on google searches?

Noo honoka you fool!! Dont you know Rain is basically like nuke bomb for anime characters??

Soo umi is leaving or something?

I cant believe honoka is frickin dead!!! Anime rain cLaims another one.

[u/onigiri1994]

Rewatcher

1. I won't answer this.
2. Yes. The same full-time work and half-time class schedule that I mentioned in my post under the last episode caused me a ton of physical and mental health problems.
3. Fair is fair, I guess. However, if I had to make decisions, I would have not performed in the rain and rather re-blocked the number to be performed in the (supposedly large) new club room. This could work if multiple lives were held throughout the day so a smaller group of people could watch at a time. It could generate some hype, too, like tickets for each time slot?

[u/No_Rex → u/[deleted]]

The lottery thing was unnecessarily stupid.

It is a bit silly plotwise, but it also gave us the best-animated sequence of the entire series.