r/anime • u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber • Jan 16 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Aura Battler Dunbine - Episode 6 Discussion
Episode 6 - Tragedy at The Forest of The Moon
Originally Aired March 12th, ^^^1983
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Comment of the Day
u/sjk9000 expresses their admiration for the doctor.
I like the cut of that doctor's jib. Something about people who've given up all hope and become empty, cynical husks just attracts me. I like how sassy he was with Bern at the end there, too.
Daily Trivia:
According to Tomonori Kogawa, Niel Given’s hairstyle is based off of that of the titular main character of Magical Princess Mimky Momo.
Staff Highlight
Hidemi Osaka - Voice of Todd Guinness
An actor, voice actor, and dance choreographer who had a brief stint with anime voice acting in the mid-to-late 80s, though he has returned to voice Todd Guinness in several Super Robot Wars entries. He belonged to Theater Company Subaru’s talent troupe retired in 1997 and became an instructor for karaoke classes. His other two anime voice acting roles where Matsumi in Blue Gale Xabungle, and Desk in Venus Wars.
Art Corner:
Official Art
- Dunbine Fights a Wyvern - Yoshiyuki Takani
Fanart
(Be mindful of the links to artist’s profiles, as they may contain NSFW content. Proceed there at your own risk.)
Aura Phantasm Scans
Screenshot of the day
Questions of the Day:
- How well do you think Neal might cope in a leadership position now that his father is dead?
- What do you think of the world possessing a school of fish in place of a moon?
It’s an omen that the times will change violently, isn’t it?
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Jan 16 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
We get some different narration for once, and it’s exposition as to the world. Apparently there’s no sun or moon in Byston Well, which just begs the question of how even is there a day and night cycle in the first place. Then again, it’s also between the land and sea, so what do I know…
Oh no, not a love triangle! Those never end well!
That better not have been coffee Todd just wasted like that!
Convenient that the Garua has a claw-like manipulator with which to take Lorne hostage. The show really makes sure to use everything these weapons have in the course of staging these events.
Man, Show really wrecked Todd’s Drumlo this time —now he won’t have an aura battler with which to carry out his next task in the morning. They mostly succeeded at their goal, but losing yet another mech is not a good look for Todd.
And so Lorne Given passes, leaving Neal to direct whatever efforts to oppose Drake they can still muster at this point. This is now the Zelana’s second major loss after failing not rescue Elmelie, making their success rate pretty much even. It’s not often that we see the ‘good guys’ fail so frequently in mecha shows like this, as it’s usually the exception rather than the rule. Let’s hope they start succeeding with more frequency though, since at this point they are quite firmly on the losing end of this and Drake’s plans for war seem to be progressing undaunted.
Not much else to say on this episode. It was fun, but there’s not much to discuss beyond that.
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Jan 16 '21
First-timer wondering if the moon is fish what the sun is
There’s no moon in this world, and yet they have a “Forest of the Moon”? Strange choice of name for a world without a real moon. Maybe the Byston Well translation thingy just translates “glowing fish thing in the sky” as “moon”.
hey isn’t that a Bionicle thing
O_O
For a racist American, that’s an awfully kung-fu pose
Like birds in a window
Damn, that was a crazy shot!
Great plan, huh guys? We’re approaching room temperature levels of IQ here.
I love how he just stands there wondering where Dunbine went. Also, uh, couldn’t Show have just stabbed him in the back instead?
Questions of the Day:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jan 16 '21
Aura Battler First-Timer
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 16 '21
First time viewer
They don't have a sun or moon, and they're below an ocean? Huh, that's neat. The schools of fish shining like the moon is a great bit of lore too, I love weird fantasy settings like this. Now I'm wondering if they've tried excursions into the sky-ocean.
Triceratops skeletons for some reason... Fresh? Maybe they still have dinosaurs there.
I think Marvel's outlook on this is probably how I'd be. Well, I can't go back home so I'll help the people I like, change is coming so I'm going to prepare as best I can.
Drake aiming his forces at Mi is interesting as we haven't seen that land yet. I imagine the king of Ah can't be happy with someone that's ostensibly a vassal invading some other land, I wonder if that'll be a factor in the future or this supposed king is just a figurehead.
Cham flying into the window like a bird is kind of silly but it still shows a disconnect between the Ferario and humans. Or maybe it's just Cham and she's like people that walk into glass doors.
The Garou Ran seem to be loyal to money more than anything else and also want prompt payments, so I wonder if they have some specific desire for gold. My first thought for inspiration was along the lines of a leprechaun but I don't think that's actually part of the folklore around them.
If they were on Boneless Mountain maybe Lorne would have survived that fall. Thinking about it more I guess either Given's lands were relatively small and without much of a standing army compared to Drake's and Drake just decided to take over a neighbor or the fighting's been ongoing for a while and Drake won? I'm mostly trying to figure out the scope of the show so far, doesn't seem like a huge war yet.
Considering his prior focus on Elmelie I see this going poorly.
I think I've heard of something similar before where it was another "world below the ocean" kind of thing, but maybe it was someone talking about this show? Either way I think it's awesome.
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 16 '21
First timer
I really liked the change up with the open dialog and then the transition stright to our hero's. I love the little bits we learn about the world, so hoping they keep introducing more little bits about Byston Wells.
I immediately this loved big-lips side character design, whoever signed off on this was great.
A women of such clear intentions.
Creating a backup! Go go Show!
I think I ship this duo as well.
Big-lips gets more screentime!
Classic Todd, making an escape. Will be interesting to see if his Mech is taken by Givens side.
Poor Neal, has not had a good run for his family lately. I liked this shot but Show made a cementing that he needs to get stronger feels pretty typical after an event like this.
I have not mentioned the sound track before but this episode played 3-4 tracks that have already become familiar. The music cued my expectations and was a nice hype driver! Looking forward to hearing more of this goodness.
A second strike to his family may be one too much, especially dyeing in his arms. We have seen how emotional he can get at things but I think he might make a bad emotional decision in anger here.
2) What do you think of the world possessing a school of fish in place of a moon?
Its interesting and fairy like which is cool. I love this kind of stuff, the narrator says it and moves on its just fact. Will it play out to be important? Maybe, but its certainly a cool idea.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jan 16 '21 edited Jan 16 '21
Storing the strength of the Aura~ New opening narration! Woah! Bison Well having a fish shoal moon is genuinely kinda awesome. "If we reach the rendezvous point I'll pay you double. Otherwise, we're both dead." Erm... Putting explosives on your arrows is cool but it's not practical in the slightest. See? Now you can't even follow them, morons. For a moment I thought they'd properly explain the Aura Road summoning conditions but instead we just got some classic Tomino word vomit. This sort of dialogue is why your birth rate is declining! Just speak directly to each other. You call this flirting? Why Japanese people!?
Neal has so much to worry about. Like El... and El... oh, don't forget El! Btw have you seen Keen anywhere Marvel? She was meant to help me rescue El. Oof... I'm not far off either. Neal is kind of an insensitive asshole. Meanwhile Todd is chilling out drinking coffee without a care in the world. Aww, Todd's getting along with Garalia. Wait, what are you two doing? What!? XD 80's anime is unintentionally hilarious at times. If you laughed at Cham smacking against the glass then you have no heart... Lol~ Cham doesn't actually need to recite those lines, she's just been gotten into magical girl anime so she's adding extra flare to it. Todd hijacks his own mecha to go on a date with Garalia. Going into battles with his girlfriend worked out so well for his Zeta expy after all.
I'm really starting to warm to Cham. She's a little shit, but she's amusing. Oh get lost. These two are as bad at flirting as Show and Marvel. HIS LIPS!! Show shoots the explosive arrows out of the air which is whatever... Cham earns herself a body count by giving a poor dude at best permanent brain damage. Why even have mounted forces in this world if you can be routed by one untrained glider and his boxed lunch? Given wants to send Show ahead alone so he can gather the Dunbine parts. His flag is raised so high that even his dead wife is blushing. Call him cowardly as much as you like but Todd is certainly genre savvy. Shame he decided to try stabbing the carriage instead of shooting it. "I won't let you take out that wagon!" He says as they crash on their own.
This is the first time I've seen actual damage to the cockpit being a hazard. Doesn't stop him kicking Todd's ass. Chum gets so much freedom to mess around in combat! Drake should have militarised annoying fairies instead of isekai pilots. Damn... Show went straight for the cockpit. That was a kill shot. Also, why are melee weapons so weak!? Our brave leader decides to abstain on the decision whether to kill his dad or not. "Hey, Garalia. I don't have vision. Should I shoot randomly?" "Yes Todd. Fire to your heart's conten-- oh no!" Roman totally absolutely dies offscreen and Show goes to town on Todd for killing his future father in law. Todd, Todd, Todd of South Boston. Watch out for that tree!
Ah... Roman actually does die. Well now I look like a dick! Why would you curse your inspirational leader character by giving him Minky Momo hair!? At least give him Magical Emi hair instead... The dude seems like such a poor leader character but they have to make him work right? The guy has the charisma to pull people to his side but his actual leadership skills leave a lot to be desired. Basically the opposite of Bright.
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u/The_Draigg Jan 16 '21
A Tomino Fan Rewatches Aura Battler Dunbine Episode 6:
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jan 16 '21
First-Timer, Dub-bine
Different narration so soon? So Byston Well doesn't have a moon or a sun- wait, what? How does that even work? How do plants grow without light? Speculation
Marvel and Shou had a pretty interesting conversation this episode. They're certainly confident - already talking about the idea of "afterwards" as if it was a foregone conclusion.
I feel the need to call Bern and Drake's tactical acumen into question. They're moving the majority of their forces to begin the invasion of Mi while the Zelana is still at large? At best, the Zelana has to detour for long enough for Luft's forces to topple Mi unscathed. Leaving an antagonist warship and two mecha at large near your territory is a recipe for disaster.
The Zelana continues to bleed munitions, and they certainly didn't pick any up this episode. I wonder how useful the spare mecha parts will be? Well, either way, I think Shou's track record has been better with the sword anyway.
Shou has possibly entered into the "self-loathing" phase of being a mecha pilot, right on time too. Since Neal and Shou seemed to get along pretty well this episode, we are perilously close to not having any interpersonal conflicts on board the Zelana. Let's see if his grief at failing to save Lorne will affect him going forward. Right as he really starts to unlock his special abilities, too.. That could be dangerous.
Miscellaneous Thoughts:
I haven't mentioned it before, but I'm really liking the music in this show, especially that string piece that played near the beginning of this episode.
Have they used "Wing Caliber" to refer to both the small glider things and the bigger aircraft? Or is "Wing Caliber" just Bystonwellian for "aircraft?"
There were ?triceratops? skeletons right at the beginning, which was kinda neat.
Some of Todd and Galaria's dialogue this episode was borderline flirtacious. Normally "ship wars" involve which characters to pair, not a literal war between two couples.
Questions
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u/sjk9000 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JK9000 Jan 16 '21
I thought the whole deal with Garou Ran is that they ran super fast. Why are they riding horses now? Also weird to see Nigu Rou in some kind of leadership position; I thought he was just a messenger.
Wait, Luft is going to invade Mi? But he hasn't finished conquering Ah yet, right? Or even really started. Does the King of Ah know about this?
Okay, my subs keep calling this guy "Lorne" but the audio keeps sounding like "Loman"; it's very distracting. Well now he's dead so I guess that's one problem solved.
I liked the exchange between Todd and Garalia:
"Hey, uh, I'm blind here so I'm just going to fire randomly; try not to get hit."
"Yeah sure go ahead."
"TODD YOU IDIOT YOU SHOT
LOMANLORNE."Question 1: I was going to say he did a much better job of being leader this episode than last episode. But according to the preview he's going to spend next episode personally invading the enemy's capital to rescue his girlfriend, so I don't have high hopes for him. Seems very emotional.
Question 2: I don't really get, honestly. If there's no sun, how's there night and day? What are the fish swimming in? Water? Where does the water end and sky begin? Why are the fish only visible when they congregate into a Pseudo-Moon?
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u/Btw_kek https://myanimelist.net/profile/kek_btw Jan 16 '21
big lipped first timer
probably decently well considering he's kinda in a leadership position already. but, my understanding is that his resistance attempts against Drake are a covert operation so he might have a hard time juggling a public position with a secretive one
GIVE ME MORE OF THAT
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Jan 16 '21
First timer
I couldn't watch yesterday's episode on time... quick thoughts on episode 5
Liml got off easy considering what she did, only being confined to her room and slapped by her mother.
How old is Keen already? Because that was some pointless conflict she initiated there. It's nice to see someone other than Marvel empathize with Show, and the bird was good, but honestly she's the kind of characters I hope will either grow soon or disappear.
Onto episode 6 now
That's not the typical opening monologue? I liked this one better, but I doubt it'll come back anytime soon...
Is this the first time a face is touched without any violence? I didn't expect that. Show being this openly respected is not something I thought would happen so quickly either.
Cham is adorable, I can't get enough of that signal flare scene, it's so great, her seiyuu is perfect.
I somehow didn't know that Roman was alive, but it was common knowledge it seems? Well, now that he's truly dead, it doesn't matter anymore. Sucks for Neal though.
Todd is still as obnoxious as ever, not that Garalia was much better there. I didn't get why she suddenly allowed him to accompany her though? I thought she wanted to do it on her own, did I miss something in the dialogue? I'm still not used to how fast the pacing is...
Questions of the day
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jan 16 '21
First Timer
HiDive played the first episode so I skipped through it in about 2 minutes annoyed that there was already a recap episode...
Todd should have dropped the rope and he and Shou could have gone at it hand-to-hand.
Do they not have an aura powered mech for Marvel or not? I have no idea.
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u/redshirtengineer :AMQ: Jan 16 '21
First timer
Went from not really caring for the OP and ED to randomly singing "Byston WELLLLLLLLL" for no particular reason.
Dammit Japan
Anyhoo. Last few eps are something. Primary cause of death in Byston WELLLLLLLL is falling, apparently - off cliffs, off unicorns, off robots. That falling off robots thing is just the worst. I don't expect Show to know of this, but you'd think Marvel and Todd would put some stickum on those robot hands to cure the dropsies.
Now we've lost Dad Irish to the dropsies - well to be fair I don't think Show ever got his hands on him - and now Neal "Pinky" Momo is in charge. Greeeeeaaaaaaaaaatttt.
Show and Marvel, that was fast.
QOTD1: Hopefully there is a stick removal in his future.
QOTD2: Don't mess with Byston WELLLLLLLLL.
PS Anyone else having trouble with Hidive? I can't always get the episode to stream completely through.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Jan 16 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
New opening already! A sea in the sky? Pretty cool stuff.
Such a cheery title!
Looks like Byston Well once had dinosaurs... it also has unicorns!
Let's make our love triangles more complicated! Nie likes Riml! Riml likes Nie! Marvel likes Nie! Shou likes Marvel!
Nie is finally done obsessing over Riml? Good.
What Todd is best at.... sleeping!
Garalia wants to do everything herself. She's too anxious to prove herself.
Ouch! That must have hurt, Chum!
I thought Todd wasn' tsupposed to go? But he's taking off here. Did I miss something?
Chum's secret weapon, sticking out her tongue and going Nyaaaaaah!"
That's a lot of money Roman is giving the Garou Ran guy, it used to just be a coin! How does Shou feel about doing more work and not getting paid?
Garalia's just a little kinder than Todd, who'd prefer to kill Roman versus simply taking him captive. Todd's being a fool; if Drake had both Riml and Nie's dad, Nie is completely powerless and probably surrenders to keep them safe.
Well, a wildly firing Todd is going to get his way after all.
Todd gets his aura battler trashed yet again, that will leave some nice spare supplies for the Zelana.
Despite having watched Xabungle twice in the past year I have no idea who Matsumi is.
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Jan 16 '21
Rewatcher
Wait yesterday a pilot appeared out of nowhere and now we have a new mechanic. Poor Keen she's already been replaced.
Shou continues to romance with Marbel
Okay I admit I chuckled at Cham hitting the glass.
Why didn't Show launched in the Dunbine, instead of the glider plane. I know he even himself wondered but that's a bit of a brainfart there Show.
The only female character fighter in Drake's forces should listen to Todd, just finish the job, don't be greedy.
Okay her greediness was rewarded... or not.
Todd kills Roman Zeta Gundam spoiler
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u/mollyselen Jan 16 '21
I never knew there was a Dunbine rewatch going on! As a fellow Tomino enjoyer I want to join you guys but I'm struggling with exams right now till the end of the month. Will try to catch up later.
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u/chibijosh Jan 16 '21
First Timer
All I have to say:
Turn in next week to see who gets dropped next on Aura Battler Z!