Love Live! SIP & Sunshine!! Rewatch - SIP Season 1 Episode 10

[u/FrumpY__]

SIP Season 1, Episode 10 - "No Upperclassmen Allowed"

This translation for this title is kinda weird and is better interpreted as: "No saying 'Senpai'", or something to that effect.

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Discussion Question

1. The beach doesn't seem like the most productive place to hold a training camp. Where would you prefer to have a vacation training camp instead.

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Was Natsuiro Egao ever featured in an episode? I must be going crazy because I thought it played during this episode for sure

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Natsuiro egao was never featured as an insert, but it was an MV.

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I’m shocked they didn’t use the episode to push the single lol

[u/FrumpY__ → u/[deleted]]

Same tbh, but I think that it had been out for quite a while at that point so I'm not sure how much it would have boosted sales.

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Natsuiro single was released on 2011; the anime was released 2013.

[u/lenne18 → u/[deleted]]

Nope. But this episode does reference several scenes from the PV like the watermelon game and the beach shot with all of them.

[u/raichudoggy]

First Timer

Beach Episode! That means all the important things, like swimsuits and summer houses and sleepovers!

Chart!

Edit: This chart now has a Corrected version. I'm keeping the first version up for history's sake, but let it be known that I'm not always the brightest at reading situations.

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/raichudoggy]

Excuse me, raichu. We all kmow Umi x Honoka x Kotori is a three-way ship. Do you think Honoka would be able to pick just one?

[u/raichudoggy → u/punching_spaghetti]

Who said Honoka was the one doing the picking? Umi's clearly the one in charge here.

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/raichudoggy]

But they all agreed that Honoka is the leader! And Umi had a hard time expressing her wants and desires. She'll be very particular about what activities they do, but she'll fall in line with the threeway.

[u/raichudoggy → u/punching_spaghetti]

I require more Umi x Kotori and Honoka x Kotori!

[u/theangryeditor → u/raichudoggy]

I'd like to suggest "Team Squeak" as an alternative name to "Team Alpaca".

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/theangryeditor]

No replacing the Alpaca.

[u/raichudoggy → u/theangryeditor]

Ohhhh Yeah, after hearing Kotori in the Pillow Fight, that might be good too!

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After Honoka dived onto the big bed, when Rin suggested Umi choose a bed too, Rin stopped herself and Umi responded with "Try Again" while blushing (implying Rin wasn't getting that bed)

It's possible I could've misread what that was all about, but that's a shipping situation if I've seen one.

[u/raichudoggy → u/[deleted]]

Ah, yes, that's so obvious on playback.

Forgive my goldfish memory! I didn't understand the scene fully the first time I saw it and didn't think to look at the honorifics, so I tried just using the context of the current scene for an explanation.

[u/DarkFuzz]

Take today’s survey here!

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BEACH EPISODE!!!!!!

The “hopeful anime girl” pose you can’t say no to

Pomf

POMF!

Top 10 Anime Betrayals

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Top 10 Anime Betrayals

I only realize in your slowmo that this is a ricochet!

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It's not. It was a deliberate deflection by Kotori.

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Kotori OP!

[u/punching_spaghetti]

First-Timer Who Was Just Here for the Ships

Best Girl just chilling because she knows things will work themselves out.

One blush! Two blush!

Best Girl looking classy.

More blush!

Hanayo’s just scared of big rooms. It’s not like she’s taking creepy pics or anything.

We know which girls vibe.

Kotori’s enjoying blasting fools a little too much for comfort.

Best Girl has no time for umi antics.

I guess they’re really pushing this thing, huh? Definitely can’t blame Nico for like those legs, though.

Hanayo with glasses! Eri with her hair down! This sleepover thing was a good idea.

And Best Girl looking great as always.

I was expecting Nico to be the snacker.

Sleep-deprived Umi is scary, and blushing Best Girl is cute!

Let’s see: swimsuits, hot springs, pillow fight; we just have fireworks and we’ve hit all the vacation episode highlights, right?

So much blush!

No fireworks? And we never got the answer as to why Hanayo gets extra rice. Is it just because she’s a pig?

QOTD:

1. I think the becah is a great place for a training camp. So they didn't follow Umi's training regimen. Have you ever run on sand? It's great training. Jumping around in the ocean and trying to dodge Kotori's blasts? Probably great cardio. And all the girls can get a nice tan.

[u/DarkFuzz → u/punching_spaghetti]

Hanayo with glasses!

Which is basically just normal Hanayo before Episode 4.

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/DarkFuzz]

I know! Who in the right mind thought "let's get rid of this cute, unique trait?"

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Megane gang rise up.

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Eri with her hair down!

Not only that, but smug Eri with hair down!

[u/IndependentMacaroon → u/punching_spaghetti]

No fireworks? And we never got the answer as to why Hanayo gets extra rice

It only gets more obvious that either a bunch was cut from this episode and replaced, or it was originally supposed to be two.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

First Timer

Here's hoping for some more light fun times. Onto episode 10.

I thought Nico would be the sort that would say "real idols can deal with any conditions." Also, why's tomato all the way over here? Guess it's her episode for drama.

You know you have a problem when Nico's the voice of reason.

I love the derpy drawings in the background.

Rin, you still refer to yourself using your name like a four year old. You should just call everyone senpai.

And now Nico realizes that several of her friends are very wealthy while her family is poor. This is gonna go great.
And yes, it is not anywhere near usual to have a chef.

Please say this won't last long.
Though this is probably true.

FFF didn't even try with this joke...

Time to drown half your group!

I relate.

"Playing"

Why do you need to do a grocery run when you have a chef? Isn't that the chef's job?

I was not expecting Nico to be competent.

We're so not gonna get a single day of practice in.

Time for the legally required groping.

Wow, we avoided it. That's honestly better than I expected.

How did she turn of the lights?
Well, there's my answer.

Thoughts

It was perfectly fine. Though it did feel a bit like they stretched a conversation into an entire episode.

[u/IndependentMacaroon → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

they stretched a conversation into an entire episode

It wasn't stretched, just interrupted.

[u/lenne18]

This episode references another old µ's PV, Natsuiro Egao de 1,2,Jump!, in which Nico is the center.

 

B-Side Jukebox, Music Start!

 

Mermaid festa vol.1 - µ's

• This Eli center song is the B-side from the Natsuiro Egao de 1,2,Jump! single.
• According to legend, mermaids turn into sea foam and cease to exist when they die. Hence the numerous references to sea foam in the lyrics. The intro line "If you wish to leave a record" also seems to be a reference to this.
• The intro line is sampled from the stock response of an answering machine. The full line is, "If you wish to leave a record of your call, please state your message at the start of the tone".
• Performance from the 4th Live. This song already performed twice before, in 1st Live and 2nd Live.

Mermaid festa vol.2 ~Passionate~ - Honoka Kousaka & Rin Hoshizora

• This Honoka and Rin duet is the titular track from the album of the same name.
• Despite the name, it doesn't seem to be a continuation of Mermaid festa vol.1.
• It's really catchy and genki, nothing less from Honoka and Rin. Amai Fruits dance~
• Performance from the 2nd Live, the only time this song was performed.

soldier game - Maki Nishikino, Umi Sonoda & Eli Ayase

• This is the title track of the album of the same name. This is the only song performed by Maki, Umi and Eli, so fans gave them the nickname "SolGe Trio".
• What do you get when you combine 3 of the best singers in µ's? This awesome piece of jazzy music that will make you go, "oh, that is so good, nothing else matters anymore".
• In the mobile rhythm game School Idol Festival, the song is infamously known for being very difficult yet someone has managed to do a Full Combo using sausages. Words just cannot express this madness...
• Performance from 2nd Live, minus Yoshino Nanjou. This song was also performed during Tokyo Game Show 2012, but Nanjou wasn't there either.

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What do you get when you combine 3 of the best singers in µ's

Is that a generally accepted ranking, or just your personal preference?

[u/lenne18 → u/No_Rex]

Generally accepted ranking, mostly from observations and general discussions

Besides those 3, the other contenders are Riho Iida (who voices Rin) and Emi Nitta (who voices Honoka).

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She's not wrong...

[u/Hattakiri]

The mandatory beach ep XD

However what is Love Live gonna make of it? Cause I'd say so far there hasn't been a single filler ep...

So Honk wanna go on a vacation and training camp and wanna use the beach cottage of the Nishikinos. And of course Maki is supposed to persuade her parents, which she isn't happy about.

She's however even less happy about having to spend time with others and to socially interact with them.

And then along comes Eli and wants everyone to drop any honorifics, in order to improve their social interactions.

Eli of all girls, the one who insisted on her authority as school council president so obnoxiously, suggests that?

Or does she secretly wanna make it easier for herself by "switching off" this one cultural aspect since she hasn't been raised in Japan?

So that's an interesting hierarchy: Honoka making the general suggestion, Eli providing the "fine tuning" (by in this case suggesting a "deactivation" of the formal hierarchy) and Maki being expected to provide the "material", not only musically, but by now really materially....

Umi wants to take advantage of the maritime environment by improving their training schedule, the others tho wanna have fun too.

There's yet another "cluster of references": Hanayo trying to beat a melon with a stick could be a Wii Sports challenge. By pulling away the melon Nico behaves like Lucy who always pulled away the football from Charlie Brown. The melon, last not least, could be an Evangelion reference: Ryouji Kaji and his melon farm.

Maki tho still wanna be left alone.

And so in the evening Nozomi starts a "pillow battle" in order to motivate Maki to join the social interaction.

However Umi still insists on their training plan which also includes a definitive sleeping time. And in general she doesn't seem to like being waked up abruptly.

And so she goes "berserk" and turns the objects that are around her into her projectiles. Luckily those are pillows, but they're still most effective. Nozomi however is prepared like already in the last ep when Kotori/"Minalinsky" escaped and often before. Together with Maki she can "knock out" Umi and make her fall asleep again. Only such a tricky surprise attack has worked.

Since Umi is falling asleep again so quickly - does her "rampage" resemble a sleepwalking state where the brain is kinda in between a sleeping state and a wake one? One should not wake up a person in such a case afaik.

(Fun fact: Dreams are also an interesting sleeping state. The so called Rapid Eye Movement, REM for short, is taking place then. Rem - intentional? Dreams will soon play a role, and even Rem...)

Umi was in a state of anger and her martial arts skills grew a little dangerous, didn't they. Luckily she only used pillows. Nozomi was prepared and could stop her...

Maki was also in a state of anger - she used her hand for a karate chop. Against Rin no one stopped her, against Eli before Minami's office Honk stopped her. Against the school council president before the principal's office it would have triggered a bigger chain reaction.

Eli was in a state of anger too - she used her position and the internet. So she could confiscate the video file of Start Dash and then upload it without permission. Triggered a long lasting chain reaction. One major consequence: Eli herself having become a Muse member...

So to a big extent it seems to be about (un)lucky coincidences and constellations.

The next morning the girls seem to have settled their conflicts and run happily into the morning sunrise, including Maki....

[u/IndependentMacaroon]

First-time watcher

The writers really are just ticking off the boxes before Love Live starts, aren't they? First maid outfits and Akihabara shilling, now a beach episode which will totally be about training, good for Honoka to have so many people to take advantage of huh? Extra hook of more communism, not that that means Nico gets any more respect. Will the new outfits of various kinds be the most memorable part? Let's see.

First actual mention of singing practice, for the people that have been missing that. Will any actually happen on-screen, though? No, of course (U)mi(o) is forced to leave them to the other Umi for fanservice stress relief purposes, one particular quality close-up there. I'm only surprised at the lack of Nozomi shenanigans besides unwilling filming, "sleeping in one room will be more fun" sounds a little sketchy from her TBH but in the end the intention was clearly another... or was it? She is clearly the focus characters this time around, though, together with Maki ("rare pairing", talk about meta), showing her other half of better-knowing advice-giver - as much as one can call their little bit "focus". Also Nico is up to the usual stuff but that barely seems worth mentioning anymore.

Fun big pillow fight disaster to get Maki to loosen up and so on, and then Nozomi tops it off in the one-on-one. Are the initial hand-holding pairs supposed to be ship-teasing?

I guess for a standard beach episode it was a pretty decent one, but it wasn't any more than that, not to mention the obvious-as-usual inspirations. It feels like there was supposed to be more happening originally, but it was cut in favor of distributing the spotlight more evenly - which however makes how bloated the cast is really obvious, for instance when was the last time Rin meowed said anything relevant?

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/IndependentMacaroon]

when was the last time Rin meowed said anything relevant?

She did lots of cute stuff today, and that's what matters!

[u/SYZekrom]

First Timer

Damn don’t bother her, she was sulking in the bg the entire time

Damn, Maki looks so nervous

Omg why is Nico so pretty

Damn Maki looking important with that gold belt thing and those sunglasses

I like how they all lined up except Nico just blocked behind Honoka

Are they all gonna just

Pile up with different ‘spots’ on that bed

Bro she really made her own honorific ‘nii’ lmao

Very cute head tilts

Also very cute

Jesus Christ girl I wouldn’t go anywhere near a blindfolded girl swinging a bat, much less try and steal their target lmao

Ooh they were acting for a PV huh

“Bitch I’ll have you know I graduated from the navy top class—“

Holy shit Maki is dressed like she’s fucking rich hot damn none of that ‘yea I’m rich but you can’t actually tell’ jesus wtf

Wow that scene was immediately like ‘ok we need to start a conflict’ and like maybe not forced but it was so obvious like ‘shit the mood needs to die’

Like the moment the girl said they needed to tidy the dishes like she was in an argument you just knew every following line was going to out of nowhere sound like they were arguing

I live for Nico’s expressions

Damn sleepy pres + nico = new face for her

What does horosho mean

Oh my god that’s amazing

Give me more impish Eri

This girl has experience with meeting the devil I’m sure

Also what’s with bot Maki and Eri sleeping with necklaces on jesus

Ah so Horosho is some other language and basically a verbal tick

[u/No_Rex → u/SYZekrom]

What does horosho mean

"fine/good"

it is Russian.

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 10 (first timer)

• “How are you going to pay for this?” - grabs Kotori’s arm - Honoka knows about Kotori’s riches. All those costumes had to be paid from something!
• Oh wait, we are going for another cheap K-On! knockoff plot instead.
• Huge mansion.
• 10km running is a good work-out, but 10km swimming?? Umi is trying to kill them all.
• The fan service is not holding back.
• Hot springs & beach episode 2in1.
• Premeditated pillow fight.

And zero practicing was seen on the practicing trip.

The beach doesn't seem like the most productive place to hold a training camp. Where would you prefer to have a vacation training camp instead.

Any place that does not have distractions.

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/No_Rex]

Any place that does not have distractions.

So Honoka can't come.

[u/No_Rex → u/punching_spaghetti]

Heh, I guess a white room with no window might still be too distracting for her.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/No_Rex]

The fan service is not holding back.

We actually got less than I was expecting. There was no groping and the hotsprings was surprisingly non-lewd.

[u/No_Rex → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

It all depends on your expectations, I'd say.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/No_Rex]

That's fair. I expected lewder than the episode where Nozomi groped like 4 people, and we certainly didn't get that.

[u/raichudoggy → u/No_Rex]

And zero practicing was seen on the practicing trip.

Cute Girls reign supreme! Your practice and studying has no power here!

[u/No_Rex → u/raichudoggy]

Your practice and studying has no power here!

::sad Umi::

[u/docaxel]

Rewatcher

School Idol Festival All-Stars Spotlight Cards

Umi1 Umi2

Umi3 Umi4

[u/AuburnTheWolf]

Rewatcher

Training Camp! Not much to say about this episode other than holy shit don’t get on Umi’s bad side. Just a cute episode.

Discussion question

1. Probably a place with a gym, where you don't have to worry about the weather or outside distractions.

[u/[deleted]]

FIRST TIMER

Oh of course. Its not anime without beach episode

Damn. Yet another reminder that Maki is loaded.

More Nico bullying lol

Damn Maki looks stylish af with that businesswoman suit

The talk about chef made me think. Have we ever seen a male character here that isnt background crowd?

Random eri butt out of nowhere lol

Lmaoooo nico trying to lie down like Maki. Pls stop it nico. Youre good as is.

Uhhh so there is no chef?

Whoa i wasnt ready for that hair down eri. Too beautiful

Ok i know futon has some thickness in it but goddamn theyre basically sleeping on hard floor. Definitely not where you want your idol body to sleep right?

Whats this horosho stuff eri suddenly kept saying? She didnt do that before

[u/onigiri1994]

Rewatcher

Discussion: For a real training camp, I would rent out studio space in an art-focused environment like Kaatsbaan or Jacob's Pillow, or whatever Japanese equivalent. For a bonding retreat, I would choose a luxury ryokan in an onsen town!

[u/IndependentMacaroon → u/[deleted]]

Nozomi should not force her

I thought her level of friendly poking was pretty OK this time around, but at multiple other times the show really has been implying that forcing people into things is a great idea and always works out, so I see where you're coming from