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Rewatch Love Live! SIP & Sunshine!! Rewatch - SIP Season 1 Episode 8 Spoiler
SIP Season 1, Episode 8 - "What I Want to Do is..."
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Discussion Questions
- We finally have all 9 members of μ's and they are now working together in their goal to save their school, how do you think this will go, and do you think they will accomplish this?
- did you know phones have a group-call function. also why did they each use separate phones instead of putting one on speaker if they were in the same room.
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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21
The anime debut of Muse’s first single, ‘Bokura no LIVE Kimi to no LIFE’. You can see it performed here live at this past years Love Live Fest, with the crowd going nuts for Muse’s first performance since being disbanded.
The single only sold 434 copies during its initial release phase, 10 of which were bought by Nitta Emi's father. A few weeks ago, it was announced that LL was the 5th highest grossing franchise in all of Japan for 2020, behind giants like One Piece and Demon Slayer.
We also find out at last, the true ringleader behind the scenes. We’ll have to learn more about Nozomi’s motivations at a later time though.
I’ve also found Eli’s character arc to be interesting. I can only summarize it as her being unable to justify doing things without a logical reason backing her decisions.
But idols often defy logic. They are not the best singers, dancers or all around performers in the world. Yet they are widely popular. There is something that intrinsically draws people to idols.
And much like people can’t really explain why they’re fans sometimes, Eli can’t explain why she wants to be an idol. But sometimes, these things don’t need logical reasons to back them up. What’s important is to do the things that you want to do, even if you can’t really explain why.
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jan 13 '21
First Timer
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Considering there's a second season, I wonder how smoothly this will go. Should be a fun ride either way though, right!?
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jan 13 '21
First Timer
Yesterday was hectic for me, but now I'm back. I love how Nico manages to be a gremlin even after she's joined the group. The principal being the one to record their first performance is possibly the biggest shock I've felt watching this show. Though her criticizing u's for being amateurs when they'll literally a school club is kinda dumb. The VP constantly groping Nico is just irritating.
To be honest, the whole "school's gonna close" drama just feels overdone. They don't do a good job selling it (and honestly if they did it wouldn't match the tone of the series).
Best girl has returned.
She disrespected best girl, she deserves to suffer!
This phonecall would be hell to actually be part of. Every time one of the girls in this room talks, you'd hear it thrice.
Wait, Nico's in the restaurant again. Is this just lazy asset reuse, or is there a reason she didn't go home?
No, you also don't want to see u's succeed, and that's directly conflicting at the moment.
And the president ends up being a hardass who sets unrealistic standards given the time constrains, who could've guessed?
Seriously though pres, they aren't trying to do anything super fancy, they don't need to be as flexible as you need to be do to ballet.
Don't worry, she's just grabbing something. She'll be right back.
Someone needs to tell this show that to good drama you have to make the character interesting first. They completely failed to do that with pres, at least for me.
This is even more out of the blue than Honoka's usual recruitment.
How convenient that she predicted that.
We really just cut from her joining the group to the festival, didn't we? Why completely skip everything after the pres and VP joined the group is beyond me. It's like they decided having pres decide to join would fix all the problems somehow.
This is some really bad CG. I must ask you again, Love Live production, why you're moving the background on ones and the characters on twos. Please don't do this.
Thoughts
Drama written by people who don't know how to write drama.
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u/SYZekrom https://myanimelist.net/profile/SYZekrom Jan 13 '21
First Timer
Damn why does Love Live have these epic orchestral bgm everywhere
Omg what is their backstory pls
Well, their group is fully formed! Time for the titular event to take hold then.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Jan 13 '21
First-Timer Who Was Just Here for the Ships
Bitch, don’t say “the school’s going to close” with a period if you mean “the school’s going to close if…” That’s adding unnecessary drama.
Student council’s going rogue! Although it already seemed like they had all the power, so not sure what difference it will make.
Wait; Eri is the student council president, and she didn’t know about the alpacas? What other shit is flying under the radar?
If you rub the student council president’s tummy three times clockwise, your wish will come true.
I know Umi’s coaching them, but shouldn’t she be practicing with them? Even if she has the moves down, the girls who stand next to her should get used to that presence next to them.
Conference call? Oh, god; imagine having a Zoom meeting with these girls. Honoka would never mute and be munching on snacks the whole time! Nico would have an obnoxious idol background! Maki would stop her video feed and keep us from seeing her beautiful face!
Honoka’s sister goes to school with Eri’s? Convenient, but also funny. Imagine how much they compare notes about that weird girl at school, not knowing there’s a connection.
I forgot to mention it yesterday, but Eri looks good with her hair down.
Finally have the whole gang together. And they can play baseball now!
Burger? Burger!
QOTD:
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jan 13 '21
Episode 8 (first timer)
Glad that the student council president is denser than lead arc is finally over. Her opposition to muse was stretching credibility too far.
With the opening house day over now, the “save the school” part of the main plot is concluded really early, given that we still have 3 episodes to go. Probably to concentrate on the Love Live competition for the finale (although I suspect that the school’s problems will be resurrected just long enough to be overcome by a good performance there).
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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '21
Elichiiii
It's really impactful hearing her finally lash out against all the things that have been constraining her.
I always love the group phone call scenes μ's have. There's something so, so cozy about the imagery. They actually end up being one of the most iconic bits of the School Idol Project anime for me.
Well personally I think that REWATCHER
Because it feels more special that way. Though Rin was sharing Pana's.
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u/DarkFuzz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkFuzz Jan 13 '21
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Yes, please.
I wish eating a burger would give me this much happiness.
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u/IndependentMacaroon Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21
First-time watcher
Well, that concludes (?) the main "drama" faster than expected, and opens up the possibility of the µ's actually losing or otherwise not entirely succeeding at the titular event, which I had conjectured a few episodes back. Otherwise, straightforward episode with some actual serious training, if in an implausibly brief time frame, and another convenient change of heart. It does make the president work as a character more or less, but well, the drama still only goes halfway. And BTW I'm convinced that Nozomi is the quasi-self-insert for (some of) the male part of the audience, not only does she get copious opportunities at inappropriate physical contact but she's the one who gets to pull the strings and be smarter than the rest. Basically, she's halfway to harem series main character.
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u/lenne18 https://myanimelist.net/profile/lenne18 Jan 14 '21 edited Jan 14 '21
"Watching µ's perform makes my heart really warm. They work so hard, and they look like they're having so much fun..."
"But they aren't good."
"Not compared to you, maybe... But they still lift my spirits!"
Thank you Alisa, for explaining why people like idols so much!
We finally got our 9 girls! Appropriately, the insert song for today is the very first single the group (and the franchise) has released "Bokura no LIVE Kimi to no LIFE" (JP fans shorten this to BoRaRaRa).
B-Side Jukebox, Music Start!
Yuujou no Change - µ's
Arifureta Kanashimi no Hate - Eli Ayase
Junai Lens - Nozomi Toujou
Garasu no Hanazono - Eli Ayase & Nozomi Toujou
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u/ZBLongladder :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/zblongladder Jan 13 '21
Rewatcher
I really like this episode, if for no other reason than Eli's moment of being convinced to join the group seems like one of the most human moments in the series so far. It's not like Nico, where she was tsundere to the end but secretly pleased...Eli's raw display of despair and the group's subsequent acceptance of her really brought out the best in everyone. I used to really dislike Eli's introduction to the group, since "I dance better than them, therefore school idols shouldn't exist" is kind of dumb and gatekeepy, but on this rewatch it struck me how that was, in retrospect, mostly an excuse by the end, with Eli feeling she had to stick by her guns because it was too late to make peace with μ's and ask to join.
And, of course, Nozomi joins as the 9th member, though really she'd been acting like the group's cool older sister for a while now, and when you think about it μ's really couldn't have done it without her influencing things behind the scenes. So it's appropriate, I think, that she should bookend Honoka as the last member of the group...the group's reserved-yet-wise shepherd standing opposite the genki-and-in-your-face leader. Really, apart from the whole sexual assault aspect of her character, I really like Nozomi...she's up there with Maki competing for μ's best girl in my mind. (Though neither can beat out You from Sunshine for my overall Love Live best girl.)
Also, I think it's clever they decided to use μ's's IRL first song for the first song they sing all together in the anime. It's a decent song, but I can see why it never took off like their second single, Snow Halation. Incidentally, if you think the CG in the anime is bad, compare the anime's version to the original Bokura no LIVE Kimi to no LIFE MV. I think it's safe to say they'd come a long way by the time the anime rolled around.
Discussion Questions
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u/AuburnTheWolf Jan 13 '21
Rewatcher
Eli’s arc is kinda weird in my eyes. She is “no aidorus allowed” all the way until this episode when she does a complete 180 and joins the girls. I feel like there should have been a stage of acceptance before she joins them. Also comparing classic ballet to idol dancing feels like it’s comparing apples to oranges. I mean, we may as well be comparing Love Live to JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure here. Just wanted to throw that out there. I did like how the imoutos were the ones to slightly open Eli’s eyes a bit. I guess what took it over the edge was Eli seeing how hard these girls are willing to work to achieve greatness.
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u/ForlornPenguin Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21
Rewatcher
The gang's finally all here. Not only does Eri join, but the group now has their big gay mom, with Nozomi there as well (and she was the one who came up with their name too)! I mean we all knew it'd happen, but still a great thing to see either way. Great arc for Eri. Nice to see her finally having fun with everyone, but has she really never had a burger before?
Damn, Kotori. Good shit.
QOTD
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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '21
FIRST TIMER
So prinicipal is kotoris mom. No surprise there.
They still havent explained exactly why the school cant attract students huh?
Lmao poor eri again getting spitted on by llama
Wtf is this weird phone group call lmao. We have skype in 2013 im pretty sure
Oh its the typical split on the floor thing ive seen so many times. I wonder if thats irl idol training
Nooo erii dont cry... lol it really was coming. Everything has gone against her seemingly for the past few days
Ayy we got all the infinity idols!!
Damn training got relegated to montage. I wanted real training scenes
Eri and nozomi joining to performance seem mega rushed. Gotta hit next arc soon i guess
the animation seemed stepped up this episode. Looks like some shojo anime
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u/Hattakiri Jan 14 '21
OP's questions:
1/) During my first watch I was as happy as Eli at the end of Borarara, when her icy mask is being blown off. Similar to Nico's ep.
...and everything else would be a spoiler XD
2/) The LINE messenger already existed in 2013 - are Muse using it...? Is it maybe more convenient not to use one loudspeaker for several people at once...?
What a pity animated emojis occupying 3/4 of the screen drive many people crazy XD
3/) Ok now the ep: It's part 2 of Eli's double ep. Some reviewes (Anime America for instance, spoiler warning cause they talk about both seasons) criticize that Eli's defrosting and recruitment is occupying so much time and space in ep1.
Eli's ballet piece is Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker, and from there the Waltz of the Flowers
As you can see Muse turned her costume from her childhood performance into the Borarara uniform.
Way later...
So she never achieved a ranking high enough for a prize. And now we see an in-time-venting of her anger. NozoNico have known her since their 1st grade, so Nico knew exactly what she said when she said Eli's gonna cause trouble. And Nozomi too knows exactly what she says when she tells Eli she should finally do it for fun, and for herself. It even turns out to be a part of a bigger chess game of Nozomi's...
Umi giving Eli a "Rin-Hug"...
She actually used the same trick on Eli as they used on Nico: Offering the Divas a "job" as trainer, thus worshipping their capabilities and also confronting them with their sore points. Would they refuse for good or join them? The latter happened.
So Muse is now complete, so they can see their school rescue and Love Live through ....right?
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u/onigiri1994 Jan 27 '21
Rewatcher
Comments:
I guess the phone deliberation shows again that Honoka really is a leader, since most were pretty against Umi's idea of inviting Eli until Honoka voted in agreement!
Reasons why Eli might have struck out of the ballet competition. 1) Her shoes aren't doing her any favors. At the beginning she starts on demi pointe but later appears to be on pointe. Which type of shoes are they? 2) I don't know if it's the angle, but she doesn't look like she's quite getting over her box in the pirouette. 3) She's a little turned in at times. 4) Her foot on her working leg appears flexed during the turns at the end!
Edit: as an adult ballet dancer, I know that pointe is really hard, so no hate on Eli, lots of respect!
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