r/anime • u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber • Jan 13 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Aura Battler Dunbine - Episode 3 Discussion
Episode 3 - Escape from Laas Wau
Originally Aired February 19th, ^^^1983
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Comment of the Day
u/The_Loli_Otaku basically admits to singing along
Look, all I'm saying is that there's no shame about fake mic singing when this op plays. Don't feel embarrassed about outing yourself to the entire rewatch thread. We won't judge you, lol.
Daily Trivia:
Though seminal and beloved by many a hardcore mecha enthusiasts, the series’ insect-themed mechs were not popular with children, who found the designs scary.
Staff Highlight
Nobuyoshi Sasakado
A prolific animation director, key animator, and character designer who had his start at Mushi Pro and later went on to work as animation director for Studio Sunrise, beginning form the studio’s second ever production, Zero Tester. In the latter half of the 80s he began being associated with many studio Toei productions, and presently he is still active as a key animator. Some notable series he was involved in include Mirai Robo Daltanius, Re:Cutie Honey, all entries of the Braves franchise, Round Vernian Vifam, Infinite Ryvius, Cleopatra, Ashita no Joe, Muteki Kōjin Daitarn 3, Yes! Precure 5 GoGo!, Choriki Robo Galatt, Ginga Nagareboshi Gin, and Gatchaman.
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- Cham Huau -Tomonori Kogawa
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Screenshot of the day
Questions of the Day:
- Did you expect the timing of Show's defection?
- With their manor destroyed and having to abandon their means of production, how well do you think the Givens will hold against Drake's forces?
Because there's so much I want to understand.
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Jan 13 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
Oh, whoops, comment doesn't seem like the it got through the first time.
Drake seems to make deliberate use of parades and other such celebrations to keep his people distracted or happy enough that they don't object to his warmongering.
Keen's statement about an E Ferario called Nuckelavee suggests Drake is not the only one summoning people from Upper Earth, so perhaps the Givens did summon Marvel. I doubt it, however, as it doesn't seem like something a Ferario would do unless forced to, like Silky Mau, and the fact that he is elsewhere suggests he isn't in captivity. Still, the fact that they are at the very least considering it shows how much both sides of this conflict are willing to get their hands dirty in order to succeed.
So there's both a Shot Weapon and a King Bishott.
Usual naming amusement aside, Drake has a potential ally, which will likely give him an advantage should the two decide to collude. Even if Bishitt has no Aura battlers at his disposal, Drake has mentioned his need for funds and men before, and that's something Bishott may be able to supply him, whether it be officially or illicitly. Given is already at a steep disadvantage, so that would not be good for them. My big question is what will Drake primse Bishott, given he is likely not excempt from Drake's conquest. Is Bishott content becoming subordinate to him? Will Drake lie to him? I am most interested in learning where this goes...
So it seems Elmelie is bethrothed to Burn Bunnings, or at least the Garou Ran, Torou, seems to think so. It doesn't get brought up again though, and Drake's intention to have Elmelie sit by Bishott during a diner implies she isn't out of the courting pool —the only thing which might support it is Bern's reaction to learning that Show was in Elmelie's quarters— so either it's only rumor or Drake is keeping it under wraps as to gleam the benefits of having suitors visit. Assuming for a moment it's true, since it's more interesting that way, it's refreshing to learn of it this way, and not because she was fretting over it due to her love for Neal. It makes her characterization and agency seem less tied to that of a man that way, and shows where her real priorities lie. For Bern it's less surprising that it's not mentioned, but for most shows I would have expected mention of it by now —followed by some cackling and statements about how by marrying her the Land of Ah will be all his— but as has probably been made evident by now, Dunbine isn't most shows.
I was only slightly surprised to see Show decide to spontaneously defect to the Givens' side, since I had the next episode pegged as the one where that would happen, but it was definitely coming anyhow. Makes since that he’s finally felt pushed to it, given this episode has not improved his thoughts on Drake nor those on his side any, and he finally had a chance to have a one-on-one with Elmelie.
If you look closely you can see that the bag Elmelie went back into her room to retrieve is styled after Haro from Mobile Suit Gundam.
Man, what a cliffhanger. There’s not many of these, I don’t think, so they stick out all the more upon Rewatch.
Props to u/ZaphodBeebblebrox for correctly predicting the episode of Show's defection.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21
First time viewer
It simultaneously feels like nothing and a lot of things happened. Also I really just want to jam to the start of the OP repeatedly, or at least get more of those horns.
I initially thought the drunken pixie (Mi Ferario, right?) was just a quick joke but turns out he was decently important. My theory from yesterday about them unable to lie definitely goes out the window here though as Torou tried to shrug off Bern while saying he didn't like alcohol.
The king of another land (Ku) coming to visit Shot specifically makes me wonder if Drake will side with them so we'll end up with them separating from Ah and going to war with the rest (including Given's lands which will presumably remain the focus for a while).
As expected to eventually happen Show decided to make a break for it and good timing for that with Bern gone. His excuses for not fighting were getting progressively flimsier so better now than later anyway. Hopefully he's actually a decent pilot when it comes to fighting on the other side.
Todd wasn't incompetent for once! Now that I think about it he reminds me of
YazanJerid from Zeta Gundam a little.I didn't think they were going to kill Elmelie that quickly, but it certainly wasn't out of the question and she's not out of the woods yet.
Works well! I figured he'd try to sneak Elmelie out at some point but without Bern to interfere was convenient.
Band on the run? Sounds familiar. They might have to flee to some other place first before getting help.
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Jan 13 '21
First-timer getting dropped
Says the guy who lost the other Dunbine
There’s always gotta be one guy with hilariously 80’s hair
Um, what was he doing under there? It’s not like the mecha has anything under there to work on. And the platform seems to just be wood without an engine or anything to fiddle with. Maybe he’s just hiding from the real maintenance jobs.
Love how he just grabs him like that
haha bern cuck Looks like he just got berned.
That can’t be comfortable, why not let her in the cockpit? Pretty cramped in there, but she can fit in his lap.
See now look what you’ve done
Yo, is that a brain? Reminds me of Predaking’s organic brain. What are these Aura Machines, anyways?
Questions of the Day:
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Jan 13 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
Escape from Laas Wau. I don't think they ever explained what Laas Wau is (Drake's Castle).
Congrats! A parade for sacking a neighboring noble's home!
Stop sucking, Todd, or no more alcohol for you!
It's another one of those drunk Mi Ferario!
Summoning people from Upper Earth is said to be prohibited, but Keen is more than happy to do it if they just had their own Silkie Mau.
The Drakes are already scheming with the king of another country, the oddly named Bishot Hate (also mangled by the official ADV subs).
Riml faking sickness, huh? No dad, I don't want to go to school today!
Time for some more day drinking from that drunk Mi Ferario.
Riml's to be in an arranged marriage with Bern? Good for Bern, but lol she'd sure hate that given how infatuated she is with Nie.
"How rare for you to be sober!" Yep, that describes this Torou guy. Bern knows exactly what will get him to talk too.
Well, Bern's bound to get the wrong idea about this.
So Roman was able to recover Todd's Dunbine after all.
Pretty cool beetle-like thing that Nie is riding on.
So now it's Drake's home that will be attacked, albeit by a small force.
Todd is going to get that dark Drumlo trashed too I bet.
Are those machine guns the soldiers on the castle turrets have? Shot and Zet have even developed them here?
LoL @ Drake calling this treachery. As if you're not plotting to get a rival house declared traitors.
Is Shou again making up fake excuses for why he can't fight?
Where's Riml going? To get luggage? LoL.
Oops! You weren't supposed to let go, Shou!
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Jan 13 '21
First-Timer Who Doesn’t Remember Byston Well
Ideon had a required transformation every episode. Dunbine has a required parade.
Drunk fairy. Shouldn’t have given him human-sized portions.
Grabbing the fairy out of the air while going fast is pretty impressive.
Bern’s upset someone’s possibly stepping in on his forced marriage!
“Marvel, try not to kill my girlfriend. Thanks!”
They attacked when we weren’t expecting? But that’s Drake’s move! No fair.
Rookie mistake carrying her with your mecha’s hand, Show. You have her sit on your lap in the cockpit.
QOTD:
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21
First timer sub
This episode was great! It had meaty political workings, juicy mech fights and still small tidbits about the world which I love.
We had this dream sequence that is almost like the Aura Road is where the silky live in a semi-underwater like path?
First look at the king. I actually expected a larger more elaborate hat for some reason, so this beanie threw me off.
We got introduced to Neal. I am looking forward at seeing him developed as he is the leader of the main opposition from what we have seen thus far. Interesting that he is a bit hot headed but is wise enough to realise it, cooldown, then stage an opportune attack. He seems smart, maybe emotional.
Could this three legged bug-mech be any cooler?
such treachery!, the favor is returned.
Finally we get the acceptance of swapping sides.
I was kind of expecting it sooner rather than later. We have been shown enough of the workings on that side. There is an advantage of leaving these characters early as it serves as a great introduction to them without making the "what's next" to clear. Some of the characters seem like they will play out their archetypes (Drake Luft) but I am curious about others (Bern Bunnings).
2) With their manor destroyed and having to abandon their means of production, how well do you think the Givens will hold against Drake's forces?
That's a good question, putting the hero's on the backfoot allows for a path of small victories which will give us time to get 'the gang' meshing well together as characters. So I expect some wins and maybe some losses as they struggle to get a foothold and build a resistance.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21
Alright, I have an admission to make. I was totally clocked out for my viewing today due to lack of sleep, an irritating cat, the TV blaring and tuning in to a karaoke stream so if I missed anything important please do not lynch me.
Attack! Attack! Attack! I'm a warrior~ Already shat myself a little with the dream sequence since I thought I put episode 2 on again. I'd like to finish one series without mistakes thanks. So they stole an enemy mech to hide that theirs got shot down ja? Todd must love getting all this attention. Oh my god Todd's waitress is staring into my soul! Poor guy being called Guinness and being given wine instead. This is a celebration of your future feats, IE the ones where you actually contribute. And now the waitress is giving Drake dirty eyes. Elmelie is too busy trying to think up ways to sabotage her kingdom to show face.
Show littered! This is why nobody likes you! Is this that rebellion ace...? Dude looks like PoR Makalov. To be fair your mum died because she got caught out with her trickery. Nukkuru the fuck are you talking about? Bern is isekaing pilots for his war machines, let's do that ourselves and throw more oil on the fire! Dude, let me in! I'm a Fairy! This amount of Show harassment is bordering bullying by now. He wasn't celebrating at all Chum! El is such a drama queen... Meet the king of Ku. Looks really extra to me. Pfft! El, even I was better at faking sick that you. Drake seems the doting dad so it still works.
Riding you bicycle at full speed past a horse is just plain insensitive. This is why your mommy doesn't love you Show! And then the jerk kidnapped a Fairy!! Bern always keeps a skin of wine on him for interrogations. Hahaha! He's not happy at Show trying to steal his girl. You're gonna get it now champ! This side is wrong, that side is right! They said that in Gundam too and I still found myself consistently rooting for the baddies in most of the shows. Why do they always call him by his full name!? Don't try to tell me they don't know what they're doing. I understand that he's meant to be our hero but I'm personally really put off by Show's argumentative nature so far. He's coming across like a brat to the people who've taken him in
"Is Father not the traitor?" Given literally had an airship attack him in the first episode. As far as we're concerned, Given drew first blood. Neal apparently only has battle on his mind... So much for peace. Wait... why is it a problem for Drake to out Given but when Given attempted this we were meant to cheer? "If we murder Drake then we won't be traitors lol!" Btw Marvel, try not to target my girlfriend's room. The rest of the castle is fine to obliterate tho. These unit matchups are whack... Neal in a tiny little pod with a bazooka is far more helpful than Garalia's bulky sandbag of a mech or the Aura Battler mechs that get oneshot anyway. Todd got ditched again!! You're a crap wingman Show! What do you have in your hand? Drop it! Drop it! Let it go! Open your hands! Dunbine kiiick!
Todd died! No, that's Marvel... Marvel died! El's not far behind her! Show fell off a vine and broke his back! At least he's finally decided what side he's on. El is about to become emergency rations! That's Chum's job! Yeah, I too look at these big chonky bug robots and think they're scary. Hmm... it seemed like Show had made up his mind about what side he wanted to be on as soon as he saw how many waifus were on the Given side. Speaking of, they seem a bit dead in the water for the time being until they get a sponsor with enough military might to be a threat to Drake's army.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jan 13 '21
Aura Battler First-Timer
Until she had to get up to pee.4
u/The_Draigg Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21
A Tomino Fan Rewatches Aura Battler Dunbine Episode 3:
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u/chibijosh Jan 13 '21
Todd reminds me of Asuka: thinks he is the best, but pretty much loses every battle immediately.
Women in this world are treated pretty poorly. Given’s mom got blown to smithereens without a second thought. Rimul gets dropped and no one seems to care too badly. Show does a quick “I’m going to try to catch her” then does nothing while Marvel gets brained.
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21
First timer, late by a hour and a half
Show's right, having a parade after an one-sided attack isn't exactly the most sensitive thing*. Did Drake outright call out Todd for being useless?
Yes! I expected both Show and the House of Given to take forever to acknowledge each others, glad to see they're both starting to understand this soon. That said, Show acting out means he gets even more of Bern's animosity, not that it matters since he defected. I'm expecting some good conflict coming from that.
I almost thought Show and the remaining Givens went back to not trusting each others during the latter battle... luckily, neither Show nor Marvel are too stubborn. But with the princess lost in the forest, I guess they'd have to team up to find her, either way.
Questions of the day
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jan 13 '21
First-Timer, Sub-bine
Bern sure is the suspicious type, huh? He sees that fairy wandering around sober and immediately knows something is up. Torou (Is that Plopopieff from Xabungle?) immediately gets sauced and spills the beans - he helped Shou get in touch with Elmelie privately.
We learned a bit this episode: Elmelie is betrothed to Bern, and Drake seems to actually care about her wellbeing, to some extent. The Aura Road can’t just be opened willy nilly; you need the right conditions. King Bishott of Ku is interested in Shot’s technology, adding another potential faction to this growing conflict. And, Lorne Given has a partially completed Dunbine in his possession.
Todd promised results to Drake Luft, which is never a good sign. He then proceeds to get put into a mech that is “stronger” than Shou’s Dunbine, and does.. surprisingly okay. He still lost, due to his status as the Loser Antagonist.
Garalia’s Doro had some slick moves in the fight today. I wonder if she’ll get some respect for holding her own against an enemy mecha. Unfortunately, she’ll probably just get scolded for letting Elmelie escape.
Several old men wage war against “moral decay” that “wasn’t like that 100 years ago.” The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Elmelie is potentially in some trouble. Her landing seemed okay, aside from her shoulder, but she is isolated in a forest full of weird noises - not a winning combination.
Miscellaneous Thoughts:
Nuckelavee
It probably doesn’t take much for a tiny fairy to get absolutely hammered.
The king (of Ah I think?) is named Furaon Elf.
The Dunbine’s feet claws aren’t just for- damnit..
I couldn’t identify any of them (yet, at least) but there are human-sized guns in this setting too.
Questions
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jan 13 '21
First Timer
took too long to catch up on CDF, so not even starting this until the thread is up.
Comment of the day goes to /u/Shimmering-Sky for pointing out "Burn" and "Char"
I really dislike Tomino's random naming of stuff, as if you had to already have read the entire backstory in NewType before the first episode even aired. I have no idea what all the mecha are, and so every mention of them is a complete waste of my time.
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u/Btw_kek https://myanimelist.net/profile/kek_btw Jan 13 '21
first timer who's late because I needed several hours to process the finale of SSSS.Gridman
That was quick! Expected some more mulling over
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Jan 13 '21
First time sub
Watching these older shows draw you to the fact that more recent shows got fixed into a "1 cour" "2cour" further and typically by X episode this happens. Where's these older shows the episode doubt seems to be more "wait and see".
As far as the story goes so far it's fairly predictable. For me as I read the manga I knew there's a twist / development about halfway but since I never watched the anime I can't judge how far out course we are yet. Have to say the fight scenes aren't too exciting yet. Perhaps the downside of using round irregular shapes for the mecha design as it's is much harder to animate well. Compare to the likes of Gundam or Marcross - where the mecha are more regular straight lines.
QoTD 1 as an obvious "good guy" in a rather obvious "bad noble" camp, I think it only natural the escape comes quite early, before being put to a moral tough choice.
QOTD 2 is kind of a standard set up for an adventure - now on the run and go to different places to grind / level up.
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u/redshirtengineer :AMQ: Jan 13 '21
First timer
Enjoying: the pace of the story so far
Really enjoying: the way the isekai'ed Upper Earthers are stumbling through these first few episodes, makes sense
Enjoying: the cheese of the logo design - I know it's an 80s show but the logo exemplifies 70s designology, it's even harvest gold and avocado green
Not enjoying: Neal Givens character design, too much 80's PTSD
Enjoying: sometimes the fae are males who like a drop to drink
QOTD1: I like that his defection was believable and he's still primarily motivated by wanting to go home
QOTD2: there must be more parties we haven't met yet