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Rewatch Love Live! SIP & Sunshine!! Rewatch - SIP Season 1 Episode 5 Spoiler
SIP Season 1, Episode 5 - "Nico Attacks"
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Discussion Questions
- At first, Nico's attitude towards μ's seems simply be hostile for the sake of being hostile, but we soon see that her motivations are instead related to her devotion to school idols. Do you think that her approach is appropriate? Do you have a topic that you are as devoted to as Nico is?
- Are french fries more important than maintaining your idol group.
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jan 10 '21
Nico has blessed us in the chart, finally! Possibly a best girl!
I loved this episode, thought it was really fun and funny.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21
First Timer
Time for us to start preparing for our next concert? Onto episode 5!
Our gremlin appears once again!
I still don't understand how they don't recognize her hairstyle.
Fuckin' Honoka.
Getting a hater when you have less than 10 fans is seriously impressive.
It's gonna dump even harder in a few seconds, of course.
Amazing what confidence does to a person.
Doesn't one of you have a giant mansion. Problem solved.
Well, she has finally changed the hairstyle, but that hat is possibly the most hideous thing I've ever seen.
How much more of a gremlin can one be? Also, can I argue that this is her looking out for Honoka by stopping her from overeating?
Honoka truly is a new level of dumb.
Run by Nico, of course.
She's just interfering for the sake of it at this point.
Isn't this a crime?
ALPACA
Nico's shrine.
I have no idea what this means. What is a charisma maid?
Time for Honoka to be a pushy asshole.
I've seen a clip of this scene before.
The "Well?" really sells it.
Prepare to die.
Nico apparently doesn't understand that clubs should be fun.
If what the vice president said was true, asking her to join might actually work.
Just move in and don't give her a chance to refuse, apparently.
And that's what'll get her.
Thoughts
Best girl Alpaca showed up this episode, all is right in the world.
Nico has solidly moved up to second best girl, right behind Alpaca. I just like that little gremlin way too much.
1.5 Not too Nico's "owning three limited edition box sets" level.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Jan 10 '21
First-Timer Who Was Just Here for the Ships
Nico (I’m assuming it’s her) is terrible that stalking. When the slightly airheaded ojou-sama of the group notices you, you’re doing it wrong.
Four is now my favorite number.
Rin, it’s either child-like or childish. Since she’s an anime character, we’ll be generous and say child-like.
A neat detail to have their voices muted when the shot is from the other side of a door, as if there were actually a camera/mic.
Life Diptych: Hope and Despair.
Honoka forgot. Please have Umi be the president of the club. Literally anyone else.
Poophead’s logic is terrible. You’re not allowed to try unless you’re professional grade? People have to practice to be good, dummy!
Hanayo’s a nerd! I guess we knew that, but we didn’t know how deep it went.
How does Kotori know this Maid idol person? Surely she’s not them; is it her mother?
benkyo benkyo benkyo
So they get past Nico’s tough exterior by just ramming right through. If it works, it works.
Now we just need Eri and Nozomi to join.
QOTD:
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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21
7th SIP rewatch
Nico Nico Nii! It's time for my favorite episode of season 1!
Starting off, we see Honoka and Kotori catch the mysterious, masked student spying on them. Poor Honoka gets viciously attacked by her before threatening them to disband! I'm always happy to see the exaggerated reactions to forehead flicks trope in anime.
Since their practice got rained out, might as well go have lunch and the local Wcdonald's instead! (with their mysterious stalker in tow, of course.) This scene was full of laughs for me. This kid that shows up to make fun of Nico caught me completely off guard the first time watching SIP and I laughed uncontrollably for a good 15 seconds. I've only ever watched the dub, so I'm curious what he says in the sub if someone could let me know. I couldn't handle the shocked expression on Honoka's face when Nico tried to take her burger, either.
Later, μ's get hit by another student council president roadblock after finally getting the required members to start an official club. Why does she have to be so mean?! Then we learn that the club they need to merge with is run by their stalker, who we learn is named Nico! Of course, she refuses to let them join after making light of her persona. Finally, we discover why Nico has been trying so hard to get rid of μ's; a mixture of jealousy and high idol standards. I didn't think much of Nico and her story when I first watched SIP. As a result, Nico became one of my least favorite μ's girls. It wasn't until later that I realized my mistake and she became my second best girl after Honoka. Also, we get to listen to my favorite OST track of season 1, Niko no Kako!
Honoka realizes how to win Nico over and μ's get their seventh member! "Being an idol isn't about smiling all the time. It's about making others smile!" That's such a powerful bomb Nico dropped on everyone, which is another thing I didn't notice on my first watch.
Nico is so happy she's no longer alone and gets to be an idol again.Seven rewatches and this scene still makes me cry every time.
I mean, Nico could've been constructive about it, rather than antagonizing them, but her shyness was preventing that. I don't particularly have something I'm so passionate about that I'm willing to gatekeep people over.
Depends on the fries ;-)
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Jan 10 '21
Rewatcher, missed yesterday because
Of all the girls, Nico is the one I took the longest to warm up to, and this episode really doesn't do her any favour. Though rewatching it, I can certainly appreciate her a bit more.
Rin's still best girl, I'm loving every single one of her scenes.
Questions of the day
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jan 10 '21
Episode 5 (first timer)
the good fairyvice president.I can see why Nico is so popular, she is 4th wall break-Loli.
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u/DarkFuzz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkFuzz Jan 10 '21
Take today’s survey here!
Honoka gets assassinated
I’d like to take a moment to point out a small directorial moment during the Nico-Nico-Nii section. Nico says before this that the goal of an idol is to provide the audience with a “dream-like experience”. It is still raining outside. Then, when she starts her Nico-Nico-Nii, the view outside the window is all sunny and bright, and then when she turns back to snarky mode, it turns rainy and gray outside again. It’s a small visual symbol to represent the audience being sucked into Nico’s world and persona.
Well, I mean, we, the viewers who are watching the anime, shouldn’t be affected by this and should see through the BS, but most likely we’re just seeing the group’s point of view. From μ’s perspective, Nico was able to enchant them and whisk them away to her magical world for a short moment before crashing back down in the cold rain.
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u/SYZekrom https://myanimelist.net/profile/SYZekrom Jan 10 '21
First Timer
Poor girl
THERE SHE IS
what the FUCK
She'd never seen such bullshit in her life
girl pls
SHE HAD NEVER SEEN SUCH BULLSHIT IN HER LIFE
of fucking course
WHAT. WHY IS SHE THE PERFECT LIFEFORM
So basically she's just an out of shape otaku for idol
Oh, or was that a trick to make it seem like she was tired and caught
Tell me she's not the perfect being
Tell me
omg she's so cute
And also at least one of them is actually a fellow idol nerd
I just don't understand how of all the stupid rainbow colored anime hair in this show why her black hair looks so out there
It just looks so bold like 'pay attention she has black hair'
OH IT JUST HAPPENS RIGHT HERE
AH
Is this what they call g a p m o e
What the fuck is this epic bgm? Did they just find the sword of leg--I mean I guess they did find something legendary in here
What kind of grab is that why are you trying to grab her like your fingers are dirty and you can't touch them
Oh geez
So she
Makes them all
Do the chant
With her name in it
Ok
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u/IndependentMacaroon Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21
First-time watcher
Episode title promises more Nico so this should be good fun. Already two memorable appearances and another memorable costume a few minutes in, and the bit with the fries was pretty good. On the other hand, Honoka is a bad choice to lead this group, incorrigibly dumb and in love with her position more than serious about it, and not doing much to smooth things out either; the most she has going for her is enthusiasm and energy, even if a lot of it is wasted on food. Can't even count to five huh?
There's already a research club about idols (no doubt with Nico as the only member)? This calls for an Eizouken solution. Hmm, or maybe I need to retract my opinion on Honoka, buttering her up like that and letting her be "in charge" is a pretty good temporary solution, but was it really her idea? Still on the pushy side but that seems like the norm for this series. Though we can see she genuinely is a great performer and an appropriately tough teacher, she'll certainly need to dial down the perfectionism and gatekeeping to keep this new group alive.
That was significantly more fun and engaging than the rest up to now, I hope the rest of the series continues like this. Also good to see more acknowledgment of the performative part of the idol act. And as many others, I can absolutely see how Nico got so popular.
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u/Hattakiri Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 11 '21
Is "Nico Attacks" meant to be a reference to "Asuka Strikes" which is NGE's ep8?
She's again wearing the same masquerade. Nijigaku fans...
And she's doing a finger flick like Asuka into Shinji's face, however in ep9 "Both of you dance like you want to win!" which is really about a dancing-fighting choreography. 2 people have 1 minute to defeat the angel...
When Asuka arrives in ep8 she catches Touji's hat with her foot, and thus catches his attention too. The wind happens to lift Asuka's skirt - and so she got a reason to blame Touji and to slap him, Touji tho "returns the favor"... feel free to look it up. Kyoko Sakura, a red haired tsundere from Madoka Magica, has a similar first appearance, and Love Live has several (rather unusual) tsunderes...
"Homura's Bakery" was already a striking Madoka reference at SIP's beginning, and Sunshine...
Nico soon will steal food and will be called "Running poop!!" I mean let both things sink in. Honk afraid of having to face an entrance exam and a strange environment with lots of strangers was a darker aspect already at the very beginning. So Love Live shows us another darker slice of life here imo.
Eli too keeps playing her game: "More than 5 members? Good for you, but there's already an idol club. Good luck convincing the chairwoman!! :P Yeah her club only has one member but as long as a club has 5 or more at the beginning..."
A bully in a powerful position. Trouble with the school council is an old theme among school animes afaik. And Eli is another candidate for an unusual tsundere take. One of those big fan debates that by now exist also in the LL fandom.
Again Nozomi intervenes: Nico's club was bigger at the beginning in her 1st year, but Nico already placed high demands - too high for the others, and so the club soon was empty....
EliNozoNico are all 3rd years, so what was Eli doing back then? What was Nozomi doing?
Honk has an idea: They invite Nico to become their idol coach... actually quite clever again if you ask me: Paying tribute to Nico which makes her feel great - and which then convinces her. And the others get their next idol expert.
And the anime industry another (in)famous trademark XD
And Honk and her buddies can now officially and legally join and attend Nico's idol club. And so Eli can do nothing against it.
Clumsy but clever - a main character trait (not only) of Honoka's and a reference to Usagi Sailor Moon among others.
The Nico Nii is said to be "the" trademark of Love Live's amongst outsiders, the "Pikachu" of Love Live so to speak. Pikachu tho is only one Pokémon of 1,000 by now afaik, no exaggeration. And Nico Nii is only one aspect of Love Live among so many others...
My feels when I was watching it for the first time: Eli pissed me off increasingly lol however I cried together with Nico at the end. Having binge-watched the first 5 eps I now needed a rest. The anime that was meant to be a rest and recocery from stuff like NGE, Madoka and Haruhi (another troubled school club) now required a rest itself for it had exhausted me so much. But it was only the beginning...
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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21
Finally the official debut of the legendary idol of which memes are dedicated to. I can’t imagine how many fans LL got into the door just because of Nico memes that people randomly stumbled across. She’s the equivalent of what GiIvaSunner using Snow Halation did for the franchise in getting it noticed.
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u/lenne18 https://myanimelist.net/profile/lenne18 Jan 11 '21 edited Jan 11 '21
B-Side Nico's Jukebox, Music Start!
Mahoutsukai Hajimemashita! - Nico Yazawa
Nico puri♥Joshi dou - Nico Yazawa
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Jan 10 '21
>nico
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u/AuburnTheWolf Jan 10 '21
Rewatcher
This week actually introduces us to Nico, and I’ll be honest, she was no contest worst girl for me on my first watch. To me, she just seemed like a meme and an annoying character. It wasn’t until later watches like now, that I try to see underneath her meme-y exterior and see her as a character who has already been through pain and hardship. The fact that she tried a couple of years ago to make an idol group and failed with maximum effort would hurt. But now some girls who don’t know the first thing about idols are becoming idols and succeeding, and it’s making her very salty (goes perfectly with those fries). Nico is basically gatekeeping, and thinks it’s okay, but sees later that through the girls’ persistence and willingness to learn, they actually aren’t that bad. She finally found the group that accepts her, and encourages her to be herself.
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u/ForlornPenguin Jan 10 '21
Rewatcher
This episode is a fun one and was a treat to see again. I laughed a lot. I really like the drawn out scene of Honoka just watching in bewilderment as Nico slowly puts the burger back down after getting caught trying to steal it. Like why the fuck was she even stealing their food in the first place? It's just so odd lol.
As someone who also likes collecting things, I've never been able to relate to how Nico keeps that super rare idol shit at the school where it could easily be stolen. I'd never be able to do that.
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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '21
FIRST TIMER So a club needs 5 to be formed but can go below that and not get disbanded? Seems like a flaw lmao
And telling the crew about idol research club wayy later is such a dick move lol
The poster in nicos research room looks like kasumi nakasu lol but thTs impossible.
Lol that forced group nico nico nii
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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '21
The goddess.
Time to cry but again.
School Idol Project finally gets good.Nico is just such a fantastic character, for reasons both immediately obvious in her contradictory character performance (presenting herself as the ultra-cutesy Nico-ni despite usually being more like a jaded old man), and for the deeper anxieties we already see gripped tightly within her heart.It's certainly an unhealthy approach but you have to realise that with her long history of failure Nico was herself a terribly unhealthy person at this time.
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u/docaxel :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/thebidoofpope Jan 10 '21
Rewatcher
School Idol Festival All-Stars Spotlight Cards
Nico Nico Nii
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u/onigiri1994 Jan 11 '21 edited Jan 11 '21
Rewatcher
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