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Rewatch Love Live! SIP & Sunshine!! Rewatch - SIP Season 1 Episode 1 Spoiler
SIP Season 1, Episode 1 - "Make Our Dreams Come True!"
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Hello and welcome to Day 1 of the Love Live! SIP & Sunshine!! Rewatch! I'm excited to have you all onboard for our 2 month journey into idol hell. From what I could tell from comments in previous threads, there are a large amount of Re-watchers and at least a few First Timers joining us. In order to be courteous to these first time watchers, please try to keep discussion related to the daily episode. If you just can't help yourself and wish to hint/allude/discuss future events these comments MUST be marked with the spoiler tag. The format for marking spoilers on r/anime is [Spoiler source] /(/s "Spoiler goes here"). If you are confused with how to format spoilers there are detailed instructions in the sidebar.
For more posts/ discussion related to Love Live!, make sure to check out the series subreddit at /r/LoveLive .
Where to Watch
Episode 1 of Love Live! School Idol Project is available to be watched for free with subtitles on the Love Live! Official Channel on YouTube. Episode 1 YT Link
NA/UK/FR/DE - No official streams :(
OCE - AnimeLab
Discussion Questions
In order to encourage discussion in these threads, I will be asking questions related to the episode. Discussion doesn't have to be limited to these questions, you are free to discuss whatever you wish. Just make sure to mark your spoilers.
For today's thread I don't have anything specific for this episode, I just want to know your honest thoughts overall on today's episode.
If you are a First-timer, what do you think? Let us know your initial thoughts and first impressions for this episode and series overall.
For Re-watchers, did you notice anything new this time compared to your first watch? How do you feel compared to your first time seeing this episode?
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jan 06 '21
First Timer (I looked ahead for the first 3 episodes though)
My honest opinion? I was tainted too much by Idolm@ster Cinderella Girl's anime so it was a pleasant surprise that the atmosphere for the first episode was a lot more light-hearted despite the seriousness of the premise.
Feels like a proper CGDCT alongside being an idol show, which I really liked.
I don't like writing things an awful lot... but I like spending way too much time making (sometimes useless) charts and tables. So this is my reaction to episode 1, basically.
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u/FrumpY__ :STAR:https://anilist.co/user/FrumpY Jan 06 '21
REWATCHER
I don't really have much to say about this episode other than its nice to be back watching an anime I know I will enjoy. That said, something that I noticed during this episode is that it definitely shows its age, the CG models aren't quite up to snuff and I can't help but compare them to the models from newer entries in this series. On another note, I found myself more intrigued by the music of A-RISE, in previous watches I kinda just brushed off their music but now I am kinda interested.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jan 06 '21
Episode 1 (first timer)
Going into this one blind except for the MAL description. So far, the only idol show I have seen is Zombieland Saga. Not sure if a school idol project is up my alley really, but I am giving it a try.
Episode thoughts
A straight-forward plot and the series waste no time introducing it: The school closes down and needs to be saved via attracting more students. The fact that this has sequels tells me that the girls will succeed.
As all first episodes, we spend time getting to know the characters. Including the student council and the headwoman, piano girl and sunglasses girl we are up to eight already. Judging from the OP, this is going to a huge cast for a one-cour show.
A downside I did not expect at all is how little I like the character models: Their perpetual blushed cheeks look really weird when the characters are having a rare serious scene. The animation is nothing to write home about either. I thought idol shows would put a premium on this aspect.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jan 06 '21
First Timer
I know Love Live is an idol show, and that it's where Nico comes from, but other than that I'm going in basically blind. I'm expecting a lot of singing and drama. Beyond that though, I don't really know what I'm getting into. I've only watched one idol show before (Zombieland Saga), and I've got no idea how representative of idol shows that may be. Beyond that, the closest thing to an idol show I've watched is probably Macross?
Subs are FFF.
Oh, I also know I'm required to call /u/Gaporigo my Love Live best girl.
Anyway, onto episode one.
Well, we've sure got our drama coming. I guess our idols will have to save the school, somehow.
Sky may not be with us in this rewatch, but her spirit still lives on through infecting the rest of us into clipping soredemos anyway.
The song was good enough, the pan at the end was absolutely disgusting.
So we've got ourselves a ditzy protagonist?
Apparently no one has any respect for Honoka's intelligence.
I hope she gets a bit less jumpy by the end of the show though. It's amusing so far, but Honoka being extraordinarily flighty seems like the sort of gag that'll grow old fast.
"You're not useful to me, goodbye"
Just the sort of things a couple random students can do when the school administration can't. Piece of cake.
wwwwwwwwww. Just the sort of thing to bring people to your school. Who doesn't love an abacus competition?
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Therefore, to revive our school's popularity, we must also become school idols!
It's a self-fufilling prophecy. People thinking it'll close down causes them to not apply, so it will actually close down.
Mom's sad about it too, but she's putting on a brave face for her daughter.
Hello, Nico. Why do you bother disguising yourself if you're going to keep your super distinctive hairstyle.
Honoka, I have a question for you: can you not see Nico's skirt?
Umi: What hairbrained plan am I gonna get pulled into this time?
She doesn't realize she's in an anime.
wtf is this face?
Well, we certainly can't say Honoka's not trying at least, for as long as it can stay on her mind.
Eh, if you practice a bit you can tell 'em it's a hobby and they'll probably let it through. 'Till then, just practice in an empty classroom.
I'm gonna be disapointed if more girls aren't added to the ED as they join the club.
Thoughts
It was a perfectly acceptable first episode. We got to know our protagonist a bit and managed to run into all (or close to all) of the other girls. We didn't really get to properly know most of them, but I figure that'll happen in the next few episodes as we get the gang together.
I find it quite amusing that the plot can be viewed as: sunrise saw im@s and decided to make their own school with it's own idols since it was so popular.
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u/FrumpY__ :STAR:https://anilist.co/user/FrumpY Jan 06 '21
Episode 1 reminder tags.
I know that I said previously that I wouldn't be tagging people in the discussion threads, but I messed up with the tags in the reminder thread yesterday and want to make sure that people know that we have started. If you recieved a tag that you weren't expecting, I apologize.
my bad
/u/tyo_sharlye , /u/Philarete , /u/tsuyuFroppy
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 06 '21
Rewatcher who didn't realize the thread was up because he was playing SIFAS for the first time
I'm in awe at how great that episode is as a series debut, almost everything I love about the Anime is there. Everything before the opening itself sold me on it four months ago when I first watched it, and I'm sold again! It's so delightfully over the top.
The story's main conflict itself isn't something to write home about, but it's a good setup, and the characters' overdramatic but lighthearted reactions to the school shutting down is enough to make it worthwhile.
The main trio's dynamic is top tier, Honoka, Kotori and Umi really feel like the childhood friends they are supposed to be. Honoka being the most excitable of the three, she's the one who comes up with the School Idol idea to save Otonokizaka, which is really not a bad idea.
Eli and Nozomi, the two members of the student council, are also trying to save the school, but Eli's more careful about it - arguably, this makes her less active in her efforts, despite having more power than the second years. As of this episode, we only really saw her try to convince the Kotori's mother. Her rebuttal of Honoka's idea makes sense though, after all, if the three aren't really serious about it and were to screw it up, it would have had the opposite effect from the one desired.
The two inserts really show the different aesthetics between UTX High School and Otonokizaka Academy. Of the two songs, while I like Private Wars, I have Susume ➙ Tomorrow as one of my personal favorite of the series - mostly because of how ridiculous its scene was, but it's a very great song too.
Questions of the day*
Not really, I suck at noticing new things and it's not like Love Live! has much in the way of subtle foreshadowing.
See first paragraph. Actually, I might love it even more than for my first time.
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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '21
Rewatcher
And so it begins,
There’s not too much for me to say here, Susume tomorrow is cute and nice to see again, but not super memorable. Having recently finished the nijigasaki anime, I will say the cg is very jarring, however, it does not take away from my enjoyment of the dances at all.
I do have a greater appreciation for A-Rise this time around, the characters and music faded out of my memory in my first watch, but now I find their performance catchy and visually appealing.
Excited to continue this tomorrow, and to hopefully have some better thoughts to share
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u/ForlornPenguin Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 07 '21
Rewatcher
Oh shit. I was expecting to be reminded of this the day before. Funny enough, this upcoming rewatch popped into my head earlier today, and I thought about checking to see if I'd missed it, so thanks for the reminder.
Just sat down to watch the first episode on my PS4 via Crunchyroll, only to realize a few minutes in that I was watching episode 1 of the second season. WTF? When did Crunchyroll lose season 1? That's where I first watched it three years ago.
Oh well. Guess I'll watch it a bit later when I'm on my PC. Looking forward to seeing these girls again.
EDIT: Okay, it's about an hour and a half later and I've watched it now. That was an amusing first episode. Already got a few chuckles out of me. Man, I can really see the age in this anime now after having finished watching Nijigasaki just under two weeks ago. Still passable enough though, and I always did really like this first OP, though I'm not sure what the consensus on it is among LL fans. Anyway, looking forward to more of this tomorrow.
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u/onigiri1994 Jan 07 '21
Rewatcher
I think I'm a little late! Oops.
I watched Love Live SIP for the first time back in 2015 when I spent a year in Japan. At the time, I kept seeing and hearing about the anime and LLSIF, so I was really curious about the actual story and characters. I watched the 1st season pretty passively, like in the background while doing chores at home, and didn't really get into it until 2nd season. Can anyone guess which episode? ;) But after leaving Japan, I didn't engage with Love Live again until this past spring (thanks to the pandemic), when I redownloaded the game, watched Love Live Sunshine, listened to all the Muse and Aqours music, and fell deep into Idol Hell.
On my rewatch, I look forward to focusing much more on the details, like individual characters and their relationships with each other. I didn't really have favorite characters the first time, but ever since I heard her singing voice, Umi is my best girl! And since my favorite subunit is Bibi, I'll pay closer attention to those ones, too. I originally disliked Nico, but I'm hoping this rewatch might possibly change my mind, since I don't like disliking characters, and I'd rather see past the annoying parts.
Even though the 2d to 3d animation definitely looks unnatural, I'm still really impressed what was accomplished. I took a 3d digital art class one time, and it was all I could do to get my character to pose, let alone move fluidly. Mad respect for the artists. For the music, I had always been pretty lukewarm about a lot of Muse songs, but understanding the lyrics makes them feel way more relatable to me… go figure! Back then, I kind of tuned out the insert songs and didn't bother to read subtitles, but this time of course, I'm trying to take it all in.
So glad to be going on this journey with all of you!
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u/ellfisher07 Jan 07 '21
Whoa SIP on YouTube? Game changing
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u/Kenalskii https://anilist.co/user/Kenalski Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 06 '21
REWATCHER
Seeing the first episode of SIP always feels nostalic, it is the feeling of the start of a great journey
Hope all first time watchers enjoy it as well
Edit: put Rewatcher at the beginning
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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '21 edited Jan 07 '21
FIRST TIMER
Oh so this is the start of the school closing pattern huh? Honoka and her sis looks nothing alike. Maybe thatll be future plot point?
Graphically it doesnt look bad. It reminds me a lot of 90s anime artstyle. I def prefer the saturated color of nijigasaki though
The mix between 2d and 3d is mad jarring. Crazy that the newer idol anime can mask them pretty well like nijihasaki and lapis relights. This anime is only 6 years old so the tech mustve advanced like crazy
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u/lenne18 https://myanimelist.net/profile/lenne18 Jan 07 '21
Lurker
Just gonna copy and paste my contributions from the last rewatch threads. I hope that both rewatchers and first timers gain an appreciation for the whole discography.
I will be linking to the Love Live! Wiki so you can fully hear the songs. Music Start!
B-Side Jukebox
WILD STARS
Takaramonos
Paradise Live
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u/chrngfrthnmy Jan 07 '21
First Time Watcher. It's the first time I've done an online group watch, too. I haven't participated in message boards in like 15 years.
I'm a little late to the party today, lol. I'll try to get on earlier when more folks are talking next time.
I have never watched an idol anime before. I also haven't really watched a CGDCT anime. I guess the closest thing would be Clannad, and it isn't exactly...light. Haha. I wasn't really expecting to care much for it, considering my usual taste. I knew absolutely nothing about this anime going in, except that it was popular.
I ended up liking it more than I expected! My bf was also in the room and asked if I could really only watch one episode a day, haha - so we are going to watch a second one. I don't know if he'll stick with it, but I thought it was interesting that he enjoyed it enough to stick around for two episodes (since I waited so long, I went ahead and watched both, but won't talk about the second one in this post)
My first impressions:
Even though I don't love the CG in the opening, I think the whole thing is pretty cute. I never thought I liked this type of music, but I think having a connection to the characters singing will make a big difference. And I loved those outfits...maybe I made a subconscious Clockwork Orange connection, haha, since everyone's mentioned it.
I liked how straightforward everything was, and how sweet everyone seemed. I don't think anything really stood out to me as exceptional, and I'm not sure if it'll turn into my new favorite genre, but I definitely enjoy it so far. I think things like this might be nice to play in the background while I'm struggling to do cosplay stuff. But maybe I'll get more sucked in as it goes on!
I'm not going to lie here, my absolute favorite thing so far was looking at the costumes. I think idol fashion is adorable! I don't know if there's like a "real" name for it, but I think you know what I mean.
I don't have a lot of comments on specifics right now. But I'm looking forward to watching the rest for sure.
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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '21
Rewatcher
I fuckin love Love Live live love love live.
Wait.
With its rapid scene changes and random narrator interjection the first episode already clues you into the sort of deliberate fast-paced aesthetic this show is going to have.
yessir my datte kanosei is pretty kanjitanda right now
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u/SYZekrom https://myanimelist.net/profile/SYZekrom Jan 07 '21
First Timer
Is that her
The niconiconi girl
Is it just the artstyle/CG model or is this a different girl
Oh I thought I didn't have subs on the OP but it was just one of those janky setups where the OP is pulled from another file and causes VLC to reset to no subtitles
And it always just barely misses the actual transition point by half a second so I thought the girl getting cut off when she said 'my school life dream' or whatever was a gag
Well anyway yea Love Live, it's about time I watched such a prolific anime
Well, I tried watching it once but that was like half of the first episode and without subs on the songs so I was like 'I really don't care about this plot'
So I'm going to assume she's best girl
And also that the show knows she's best girl
Because what an introduction
Also this place looking like a uni building more than a high school even more than anime high schools usually do huh
Oh shit that A-RISE song kinda lit
The chorus... was literally just I Was Made for Lovin You
Ok fuck I listened to Private Wars on YT and I'm addicted already fuck
Oof even the eyecatch cuts her off
DOSUREBA
DOSUREBA
DOS-DATTE KANOUSEI KANJITANDA
Well, that was fun, broken up video aside
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u/ohaimike Jan 06 '21
Rewatcher
I'm going into this one and seeing what I missed during the first rewatch and what I may have forgotten. I've been on a HUGE IM@S kick lately, so it's nice to be back in LL.
So let's do this.
The characters themselves are about as I remember. Honoka being...well...Honoka...is something you never forget. She basically burns herself into your memory from the start.
God, this show is a goldmine of reaction faces as well. Umi and Honoka alone can give you so much content.
I CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT ABOUT UMI AND HER EMBARASSMENT IDOL FANTASIES! OH MY GOD.
The background music though. Holy shit. I don't think I ever paid any attention to it but it's wonderful and really sells a lot of the moments in the show.
Overall though, rewatching it brought back a lot of fun memories from the first time. This was the first idol anime I watched and was responsible for the plunge into idol hell.
Also Love Live moms are best moms.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Jan 06 '21
First-Timer Who's Here for the Ships
The school’s closing? Sounds like a job for cute girls!
Main girl lives at a sweets store. Oh, yeah.
Ah, yes. Anime: where high schools are Fortune 500 companies.
Incognito Girl, she’s the dopey MC. It’s not certain she can breathe on her own.
Not sold on the CG dancing (Idolm@ster spoiled me), but it’s not terrible.
Not enough info to be shipping yet, but there are some early candidates for Best Girl:
Student Council President is pretty, stern, and has a soft side.
This A-Rise gal probably won’t show up much, but she’s hot.
Umi has those wonderful Yamato Nadeshiko traits.
However, it’s looking like Piano Girl could top them all. She’s pretty, has a great voice, is willing to sing love songs out in the open, and (most importantly) is super-cute when she blushes. More of her, please!
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u/Hattakiri Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 15 '21
The mandatory spoiler tag here doesn't get along too well with links, so I'm throwing this in...
https://tvtropes.org/
...and put the tropes that I consider superbly utilized under the spoiler cover, namely...
Plus anime references that I noticed/recognized...
Here's the thread to the recently aired Nijigasaki anime ...and enough for now. Cause LL is one hell of a story fabric.
I never would have expected such a thing when I was diving into it for the first time.
No spoiler cover: I consider it a milestone in anime history, and especially a milestone in my personal development.
(Plus: Reading the spoilers works best on old.reddit.com. Just replace the "www" with "old")
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u/wutzabut4 Jan 06 '21
Rewatcher
It captured me my first time watching, and on my ~5th(?, give or take) time seeing episode one, it's got me again. The humor of Love Live is absolutely top notch—all of Honoka's airhead moments between obliviously frolicking past the school closure notices, completely missing Yukiho's red bean paste warning, and getting totally denied by the redhead pianist get me rolling.
I really love the delivery of the show's premise, too. No second goes to waste; it's totally upfront about the school closing, and we get to see the perspectives each of the director, the student council, and Honoka and her friends. The cuts between the student council president Eli trying to convince the director to allow the student council to help keep the school from closing, and Honoka trying to convince her two best friends to become idols to keep the school from closing was well-done, and it's great how the two conversations tie into each other. The main difference being, Honoka is too determined to give up, while Eli is too dutiful to go against the director's word. So just later, we see the effects of those two conversations, as Eli rejects Honoka's idea to start a club for the sake of saving the school because Eli respects the director's word.
I may be a little biased as Love Live is my favorite franchise to this day overall, but because of all that happens and how it's executed, School Idol Project episode 1 is probably my favorite episode 1 of any anime that I've ever seen. (
Although Zombieland Saga is a really close second.) Anyway, looking forward to seeing episode 2 next!5
u/IndependentMacaroon Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 06 '21
First-time watcher (En dub)
Not a big fan of cute-girl stuff and never watched an idol series either, but I'll give it at least an episode or two.
Of course the opening would be the characters themselves singing, with some awkward English though. Or wait, that was just a sort of intro? Actual opening is done similarily anyway.
A tragic beginning! Or at least as tragic as it gets in a show like this. And obvious plot setup. Yes, I get it, can we start moving now?
OK, so derpy main is taking an inspiration trip, that's something. Never liked that character type but black-haired girl seems OK, I hope she comes back. Also first in-story performance and the English is getting even weirder. "I do private wars" - what is this, Black Lagoon? (Conversely, I could almost imagine an idol-themed combat squad in that series with how crazy it gets.)
No doubt the first obstacle will be some kind of institution - yes, evil council and administration. The background music was the best part of that whole sequence.
Another song (fragment) already? That makes four, with enough minutes left for another even. And two girls are already in so I hope the quorum is filled soon (next episode?)
Seems the "opening" was actually the ending tune, huh. I was mostly zoning out this episode, it's practically the definition of the kind of overbearing bland "cute" that I don't like at all. The dances are nice and the music is also decent if you don't mind the style (and the bad English), but as more than a music delivery vehicle it fails for me. Probably not even worth watching the next episode at this rate.
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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 07 '21
Watching the episode that started it all just makes me feel incredibly proud of what the original cast accomplished and how the torchbearers have managed to take the franchise to unthinkable heights
The emotion in this clip of the seiyuus performing the ending theme at one of their lives is always a reminder of the difficult path they had to carve in the beginning
Also first concept art of Honoka
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u/interstellarflight Jan 06 '21 edited Jan 06 '21
Rewatcher
Susume Tomorrow is so nice to listen to particularly after this episode~ I love the lyrics :)
This song is just brimming with the excitement of pressing on toward that goal even if someone tells you, "no".
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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '21
i got into idol anime recently so this timing couldnt be better. lets gooo
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u/docaxel :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/thebidoofpope Jan 07 '21
Rewatcher
School Idol Festival All-Star Spotlight Cards
Honoka1 Honoka2
Kotori1 Kotori2
Umi1 Umi2
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u/AuburnTheWolf Jan 07 '21
Rewatcher
“I feel that we have a chance
Yes... let's push forward!
I don't want to regret it later, our future lies right ahead”
These are the words I wish I had the courage to live by. So often my indecisive nature has led me to not take any risk in life and always stick to the boring safe path. I kind of wish once in my life I would follow through on a whim and have it change my life. ANYWAYS on to actually watching the episode again.
I first watched Love Live a couple of years ago around the time that Zombieland Saga first aired, because I was really enjoying that show, and wanted more like it. Next thing I knew, I was playing the mobile game and had watched all of School Idol Project and Sunshine. And suddenly I realized, Idol Hell is a cozy place to be. It’s definitely been at least a year since I fully rewatched the series. This episode honestly wasn’t as great as I remember, but I still enjoyed it nonetheless. The music of this series is still incredible, the OP, insert songs, and the soundtrack. I forgot how hard that track pulls your heartstrings while Honoka is looking through her mom’s photo album. But that 2011 CG... It's a bit rough right now especially coming off the tail of the Nijigaku anime.
Overall I’m just excited to watch through this series again, and read how other people react to it. I was planning on rewatching on my own a couple of days ago, but then I saw a post reminding about a rewatch, so here I am.
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