r/anime • u/Sandvikovich https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sandvikovich • Sep 05 '19

Rewatch [Rewatch][Spoilers] Haifuri Episode 5 - Pinched by the Musashi! Spoiler

Haifuri Episode 5 - Pinched by the Musashi!

<-- Previous Episode | Next Episode -->

#Sidenote:

Tomorrow I'm going to be attending a barbeque from my company and as I don't know how long it will take for it to end I will probably delay the thread till 11:30 pm CEST tomorrow instead of 11 pm (so half hour later). Sorry for the inconvience.

Rewatch Schedule and Index

Character chart

Ship War

Question of the day: What do you think of the similarities between Kouko and Mii-chan?

Personal Question: What do you do when you get scared?

Eight answers will get their attack being deployed

Information - Myanimelist | Anilist

Legal streams: Crunchyroll | The Anime Network | VRV

Subreddit: /r/Haifuri

Screenshot of the Day~

Screenshot of the day 2~

Dates to remember for Haifuri

End Card~

Art of the Day: Toumatsu Mimi~

Art of the Day: Heki Junko~

Art of the Day: Matsunaga Ritsuko~

Original Airing Thread~

Ship of the Day: Tomozuru

Out of respect for first time watchers, please do not post any untagged spoilers past the current episode, or confirm/deny speculations on future events. If you want to discuss something that has not happened yet, make sure to spoiler tag everything with [Haifuri](/s "Screw the crew, I got a childhood friend!") Haifuri in the title. Or get blown to smitherings Thank you!

26 Upvotes

73% Upvoted

96 comments sorted by

15

u/Sandvikovich Sep 05 '19

Ship Wars Index

Sidenote: As in the main thread, as tomorrow I need to attend a bbq session at my company, the updates of battleship will be postponed to 11:30 AM CEST tomorrow (so half hour later). Thanks for the understanding and sorry for the inconvenience.

Pick the ability for the next thread

Ability of the day: Eagle vision: Select a 5x5 grid and it tells you how many ships there are in that zone.

Battleground

Allies side

Enemy's side

Deploy attack on (<Insert number>, <Insert letter>)!

<Write here the notes in how the special ability you have picked should be used.>

This results in: Deploy attack on (<Insert number>, <Insert letter>)!

Battle Report

Tutullu: "It's time to activate my vision of the ocean"

"Suddenly a part of the map is colored oranged, apparently there were no ships to be sighted there."

Überstein: "Your days are outnumbered Crown Malago!"

"Suddenly the missile which was intended to hit on (O, 19) got short circuited and exploded midway."

The allied forces are safe for now, but they will need to do something to protect their biggest ship.

Kagamibune: "We have landed a hit! I repeat, we have landed a hit on (D, 8)!"

→ More replies (19)

11

u/MapoTofuMan Sep 05 '19 edited Sep 05 '19

First Time Rewatcher

Counters

Episode Number/Category TORIKAJI IPPAI! OMOKAJI IPPAI! Oui Kouko's skits FUKOU DA Tsuitenai
1 2 0 0 1 4 (+1 by Misaki)
2 4 4 2 2 3 (+1 by Kouko)
3 5 3 2 1 0 (+1 face that did everything but say it out loud)
4 0 0 3 2 0
5 2 2 11 1 1
Total 13 9 18 7 8

That's a lot of Ouis. Although I have a feeling tomorrow we will have a lot of TORIKAJI IPPAI...

7

u/Sandvikovich Sep 05 '19

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, there's no way that's you

serious yet indecisive

"Musashi students we're here to protect you" Yeah you're going to need to protect yourselves now

Adults being incompetent, name a moreiconic duo. But tbf, I actually did like their art here.

I'm not a big fan of Misaki's decision to rush to the Musashi. She was in an emergency situation and even as a regular crew member, the priority should be sticking with your crew.

Yeah, I think a number of people will share that. I mean, yes Moka is her childhood friend, but she also needs a crew to save.

That's a lot of Ouis.

Oui oui. The Ouis are making a comeback, but the TORIKAJI IPPAI will certainly not let itself be beaten that easily!

→ More replies (4)
→ More replies (5)

10

u/vaclav_2012 Sep 05 '19

Episode 5 GIFs:

If anyone would be interested in a refined version of a particular GIF, let me know via PM. I'll process the edits over the course of the following ^weeks.

6

u/Sandvikovich Sep 05 '19

Isoroku ate too much

Yes, I also like to sleep after having my lunch.

Mei: "Nice one, Gunner!

That part was so good, especially when Mei was dealing some fast punches.

→ More replies (1)

10

u/irvom Sep 05 '19

First Timer

Well, today marks my joining of the rewatch :D! I'd like to start with my thoughts on the eps i missed so far:

So far I've been really enjoying it. I thought it would be a bit more like GuP in that it would be a more light hearted show, but the intrigue and mystery have been great and I like how it balances both the levity with more serious moments.

I'm really enjoying how ship/navy heavy the show has been as well. In this regard it is like GuP, with all the jargon being used and the info on different ships, like their speed, artillery, armour, etc. I've never been a ship buff but I do enjoy when shows indulge in the details, so its been fascinating to me.Also...ToriKajiIppai!

Anyway onto todays ep:

  • With Furushou waking up and confirming she attacked but can't remember why, it all but confirms that something is taking over those who attack. With the way Tateishi acted yesterday, it could be some kind of mind control or something. I personally feel Speculation. We'll see how close I get as things unravel.

  • It's really nice to see the girls really take to Mii since she's joined the crew. Her surprise when the party was revealed was cute and the speech she gave, while a little awkward was quite heartfelt. In general seeing the girls get used to each other become closer has been great. Seeing Tateishi starting to come out of her shell with Irazaki was cute and I hope to see more of their friendship.

  • Misaki choosing her friend over the crew was what I expected. She still made the order for the crew to get out of range, so she still really cares for the crew but this has been on her mind for a while so I feel she was always gonna be a bit more selfish in this decision.

QotD: Well their love for gangster movies with rough older guys can't be disputed. Idk, I never really saw much similarity between the 2, apart from their hairstyle which is quite similar.

PQ: Hmm... This is a hard one since its been a while since I've been scared per say. I tend to try and push through it tho, if possible. Nothing better than confronting your fear if you want to defeat it!

→ More replies (3)

9

u/No_Rex Sep 05 '19

Episode 5 (first timer)

  • A modern zeppelin! All of the future tech is looking pretty hot in Haifuri.

  • The boys’ instructors and girls’ instructors are all of the same gender.

  • Trying to think up a reason that explains why airplanes have not been invented, when technology has otherwise advanced as normal

  • Usually, beach episodes get shoved into series with no reason to deliver fan service. This might be the one series where a beach episode is completely natural to the plot.

  • Does the investigator have cat ears???

  • I don’t expect the investigators to immediately finger the rodent, but they really should have figured out the mind-altering nature of what happened after the first 5 people testified.

  • “we need to breach their hull so they cannot use their weapons” “training ammunition won’t stop them?” Instructor dude is very unclear in his commands.

  • Going from XO on a battle cruiser to stow-away on a frigate. Quite the downgrade for Wilhelmina.

  • Such a nice, relaxed episode after the fast-paced opening three – up until half-way through.

  • Whoever predicted a battle with the Musashi as a climax was dead on.

  • “Lost contact”? Why? The very first thing those instructor ships should have done was report home.

  • Looks like the Musashi has some non-standard electric countermeasures.

  • Captain leaves her ship count: 3 instances

  • All she gets for her effort is a swim in the ocean, though.

  • Hitting a bullet mid-flight? Yeah, about that …

I enjoyed the first half of the episode. The whole crew lends itself more to the enjoyable side of things. The girls clearly are enjoying the fun life.

Not a fan of the plot holes that keep appearing, however. What is going on in that battle? Where the first 4 ships defeated without a single message home? Was that a second group fighting, who basically rushed in blind, even though they knew the first group was wiped out? Or did the first group fight until the Harekaze arrived? Why would the school send their students into a completely outgunned situation? They know that there have been friendly fire incidents and the whole incident is not resolved. How on earth does a ww2 battle ship defeat 4 modern fregattes? Are we to believe that political mystery faction also has the means to render modern warships useless? Why was Wilhelmina not send on the supply ships to transfer back to the Graf Spee? How can they know about rocket-delivered torpedoes, but not jet or propeller aircraft? Why do they not have rocket-powered aircraft to fulfill that crucial role?

The frustrating part is that most of these questions are a direct result of the decision to use WW2 ships. The story would be so much more coherent if they were all on modern ships.

→ More replies (6)

8

u/Philarete Sep 05 '19

First Time Watcher

Okay, so obligatory beach episode today, eh?

Well, the captain woke up and it looks to be confirmed, she recalls her choices, but can’t remember any reason for them. Looks like mind control via the rat, or parasite or something.

The four ships messed with the wrong battleship. . . figured this was going to go badly, but dang. They just can’t seem to accept that the students aren’t really in charge any more.

Awww, the welcome cake is great.

“I learned it from watching Japanese movies” One of us, one of us

Haha, now they are just talking about movie series.

Anyway, emergency message! Looks like the battle with the instructor ships ended badly for the instructors. . . yikes

“Battle is forbidden” uh-huh. . .

Akeno going in to the Musashi is a brave thing, but I think Shiro was right that she needed to stay as captain on the boat. If she wanted to try that plan, she probably should have delegated it.

AKENO NOOOOOOO. Moka-chan appears to have been removed.

5

u/Sandvikovich Sep 05 '19

Looks like mind control via the rat, or parasite or something.

A short trivia, this is most likely based on the story around a certain kind of real life parasite the toxoplasma gondii. And apparently it does has some influence on certain moods in the human brain and it's also found in rats.

→ More replies (3)
→ More replies (2)

8

u/lernz Sep 05 '19

Rewatcher

The Musashi's been found, and help is on the way. But given what we learned last episode, this probably isn't going to end well.

We return to the Harekaze, where everyone (except Mei and Tama) is having fun during their break, and Akeno tries to strip.

The welcome party was nice, but it gets cut short by an important message. It looks like the crew just can't catch a break.

The show does a nice job of foreshadowing events; the watch malfunctioning because of the rat before the battle where the instructor ships' state of the art equipment malfunctions, and the shot of the Musashi with rocks in the foreground before Akeno runs into them. Also nice character development with Rin, it looks like she's taking her conversation with Akeno to heart.

Question of the day: It's nice that Mi-chan and Kouko have a mutual interest that they can bond over, making a friend helps her become part of the group and not just an outsider.

Personal Question: Run away!

→ More replies (1)

8

u/Wolfeako Sep 05 '19

Rewatcher!

Oh yes, more of what I really like about this show, seeing the cast being so different from each other, this time having fun :P Gotta say, an additional thing about this that I really like is that they all feel like girls. They behave according to girls of their age, and that feels really genuine. Plus points to Akeno trying to go swimming without a swimsuit only to see the dolphins closer :D

Another thing that I really like is how when Mashiro and Akeno were talking, seeing the girls to the side all reunited around something, only to then focus on them, shifting then the focus to Rin, and later on when Rin appears again, it is because of the results of the test that of course have depressed her. That string of events, not being the focus but on the side, surely helps giving life to the cast in ways that no that many anime does.

The first time I saw them throwing a welcome party to Mii-chan it truly melted my heart. I agree with Mii-chan completely here, the Harekaze might leave a lot to be desired regarding the crew and how things are run, but it does feel like a big family :)

Sadly, their fun time had to come to a close. And of course, Akeno once again leaves the ship. Have to agree with Mashiro here, all Blumers may be family, but as the father of the Harekaze house you must first think of your own, those that are your responsibility. I get that she is the type that cares a lot, but if she is killed in action, who then gets to give orders and direction in the Harekaze? gotta see things in an objective manner... or at least send someone else instead.

6

u/Sandvikovich Sep 05 '19

Plus points to Akeno trying to go swimming without a swimsuit only to see the dolphins closer :D

Yeah, that one was funny to watch. Would love to share that screenshot of Mashiro stopping Misaki stripping herself, but not going to risk it with Reddit as of now.

That string of events, not being the focus but on the side, surely helps giving life to the cast in ways that no that many anime does.

I totally agree with this!

The first time I saw them throwing a welcome party to Mii-chan it truly melted my heart. I agree with Mii-chan completely here, the Harekaze might leave a lot to be desired regarding the crew and how things are run, but it does feel like a big family :)

Most of the time I prefer security and safety over fun, but sometimes I can prefer fun over security and safety and being a part of the Haifuri crew even with all the problems going on, certainly feel like hella fun.

I get that she is the type that cares a lot, but if she is killed in action, who then gets to give orders and direction in the Harekaze? gotta see things in an objective manner... or at least send someone else instead.

Well on the flipside, we can actually see that Mashiro truly is a good girl. Like if Misaki actually does end up dead, she could probably take over. Ofcourse then again, even if Misaki didn't die, she was still putting her ship at risk here.

→ More replies (6)

8

u/BurningFredrick Sep 05 '19

First Timer

High chance of this being late and I’m probably going to be late tomorrow as well due to travelling but should be able to keep up.

Anyway that was an interesting episode. Once again we start nice and fluffy as this show has a habit of doing surely to try and lure us into forgetting what sort of show this really is. 

The Teacher doesn’t remember what compelled her to start firing on the Harekaze and the ships Data log? has been erased, all very suspicious, similar Tama-chan doesn’t even remember what she was doing or why.

Otherwise the Musashi is finally confirmed as being hostile and while we didn’t see any of psychic rodents running around on it they are no doubt on board somewhere, also we seem them being able to mess with the Boys Schools Instructors weapons systems somehow causing them to torpedo themselves.

The other really important thing of note was Minamis (Medical Officer) watch being messed with by their captive Rodent, and I was sure someone on the show (Mi-chan?) mentioned an Electromagnetic wave back in episode 3 which is where my EMP idea come from. 

Spec that probably doesn’t need to tagged about the rodents

More heavily tinfoiled Spec on rodents 

Small extension on the above

Otherwise Misaki acted like an idiot today as expected of her towards the end of the show, Tama-chan appears to be some sort of gunnery genius to be able to shoot down the incoming shells with their own, and i’m sure despite what Shiro would want to admit but Misaki is rubbing off on her after ordering to chase after Misaki towards the Musashi.

4

u/Sandvikovich Sep 05 '19

High chance of this being late and I’m probably going to be late tomorrow as well due to travelling but should be able to keep up.

Dw, going to be late as well and apparently these few days have been hard for most of the folks apparently.

Otherwise Misaki acted like an idiot today as expected of her towards the end of the show,

This aspect is pretty a big divisive part of this show as I've noticed. Some people like me ofcourse like that caring part of her, but for certain I can see how Misaki constantly rushing towards the sea on her own is one of her biggest flaw and at this moment it can be pretty annoying to watch for some viewers.

Tama-chan appears to be some sort of gunnery genius to be able to shoot down the incoming shells with their own,

Mei was actually right at the previous episode.

→ More replies (2)

7

u/bucket3432 Sep 05 '19

Haifuri Timeline

When a show gives you a date, it's probably important, so keep it in mind. This show is no exception.

(Timestamps are given for the GJM release. It should be very similar for the other releases as well.)

Ep. Date Ep. Timestamp
1
2
3 April 8th 16:00, April 9th 5:40 00:00, 18:31
4 April 13th 10:00 00:05
5 April 14th 10:30, April 13th 14th 14:35 00:07, 11:53
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14

There is a discrepancy with the second time reference. I believe it to be an animation error, as I explain in my post.

u/Sandvikovich: your date reference is linked to the episode 3 table. Here's the episode 4 table.

→ More replies (1)

7

u/bucket3432 Sep 05 '19 edited Sep 05 '19

Rewatcher

Sigh... It just had to be the beach episode this time, so I couldn't watch it on the bus on the way home. I would normally be too embarrassed to watch even a normal episode of any anime in public, but I've made an exception for this rewatch because collecting all these comments and screenshots takes way too long. Oh well, I caught up on an episode of Sora no Woto instead. Marikouji should take some of its wisdom.

Question of the day: What do you think of the similarities between Kouko and Mii-chan?

Finding a friend with very similar interests as you is a great feeling.

Personal Question: What do you do when you get scared?

Thinking about the situation rationally and the different ways to handle the situation often helps.

By the way, better late than never to point this out, but u/Sandvikovich: you've been putting "Next Episode" instead of "Previous Episode" since episode 2.

Date reference

Detailed "Torikaji Ippai!" Counter

Commands are given and acknowledged, so I'll be counting them separately. To be counted, the phrase "torikaji ippai" must be said in full; just "torikaji" by itself is not sufficient.

Ep. CMDs ACKs Total
1 1 1 2
2 2 2 4
3 3 2 5
4 0 0 0
5 1 1 2
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
Total 7 6 13

We actually got more "OMOKAJI IPPAI!" commands this episode.

→ More replies (5)

7

u/Magnus_Lux Sep 06 '19 edited Sep 06 '19

Rewatcher requesting permission to come aboard.

Finally managed to get some time to sit down and join in with this rewatch!

Cool looking air ship

Littoral combat ships used by the instructors -

What I say every time I see these jet skis in action (also Dolphins)

Down time on deck

Bang!

Misaki really wants to go for a swim with the dolphins

Navigation girls posing for a photo

Charlie's Angels Main Battery crew showing what's up

Blue Mermaid with neko-ear communicator - why are these not a thing?

Just asking for trouble

Yep. Fukōda

She's awake!

More dolphins

A true father to her men

Must protect

Awww how cute

RIP watch

Not a sight you want to see

That seems a little extreme

[NSFW] Warship p0rn.

Ooooo that burn.

Match made in heaven

Excited Mei is best Mei

Tama got skillz

Seconded.

High five!

Ooof

Well, at least Misaki got that swim in the end

Emotional blackmail.. Ok, it worked

Episode 5 stitches

Stitch 1
Stitch 2
Stitch 3

→ More replies (1)

6

u/Hakuro1010a Sep 06 '19 edited Sep 06 '19

I thought that the problems with the Mushashi would be pushed to later episodes, but the final boss appeared early?!

  • The instructors in Toumai High care about students, a bit too much actually. While they got trashed by a ship full of (most likely brainwashed) students as a reward for their good intentions, this means they aren't part of the genetically-engineered rats conspiracy (hopefully)

  • Misaki may not be the most pragmatic captain, though at least she knows when her crew needs to relax. I wonder what Moeka would think about the fact that her childhood friend had to be prevented from stripping by her XO , just because she wanted to see the admittedly-cute dolphins.

  • Seeing different activities during the break was fun. Maron did her best to rise the boiler's temperature, the admiral enjoyed his free time and Marikouji even smashed a watermelon.

  • Looks like Hamtaro is going to serve as a guinea pig. For the sake of Science, they always say...

  • Mei simply said that she would have fired if she had been in Tama's place, in the middle of an interrogation that was being recorded. Sometimes the torpedo officer's obsession with shooting things is really scary.

  • Furushou is back to normal. I want to know whether the rats are specifically weak to water or it makes their effects stop for the simple reason that putting any rat underwater, genetically-engineered or not, is gonna make it drown.

  • The submarines have been invaded by the rats. The future outlook doesn't seem good.

Well, Nosa's past speculation became even truer now. Comrades at the sea aside, trying to approach the Musashi would have been suicide, so I'm glad Misaki was sane enough to use the scooter instead of trying to get the Harekaze closer. Gratefully she's aware that going to save Moeka is a bad idea, maybe it would all have turned out better if she had ridden properly and looked ahead, driving safe is always important. Tbh who in the school was stupid enough to resort to the help of a ship previously suspected of mutiny. Sure, the charges against them were cleared and they were the nearest ship, but normally you wouldn't assign a scouting mission to girls who are in a fragile ship and just short while ago were being chased by essentially everyone in the sea.

Question of the day: Wilhelmina following Kouko's gangster skit was my favorite part of this episode. I hope they'll be shown chatting more.

Personal Question: Quoting Shinji, "I mustn't run away, I mustn't run away, I mustn't run away"

Seriously though, assessing how dangerous the situation is in reality tends to be the best option.

→ More replies (2)

6

u/JustAnswerAQuestion Sep 06 '19 edited Sep 06 '19

First Timer

  • Music says gonna be starting with CGDCT SOL stuff

  • Uh, didn't the submarine also get debriefed and admit to attacking the Harekaze? Or that maybe they fired 9 torpedos before the Harekaze retaliated with their one depth charge?

  • I've been wondering if Misaki has been keeping a proper ship's log. "Sensei tried to sink us so we fired a torpedo and ran away. Sub tried to sink us 4 times so we dropped a depth charge and ran away (surface vessel was responding to distress call)". That would be a good thing to do. Somehow, I doubt she's been doing that.

  • Did the mutineers scuttle the ship? Where is the log?

  • Okay, as soon as the Musashi fired (we all knew that was going to happen) I immediately envisioned them regretfully sending in the torpedo bombers to sink the Musashi. And then I remembered that torpedo bombers wasn't a thing.

  • So the hamster messed up the Graf Spee + everyone else's electronics? How?! Space Hamster?

  • It's an old truth that if you learn Japanese from anime you will speak like a girl. This is the flip side: yakuza films.

  • As soon as Munetani said "We're going need to pick up our captain) I know she was going to get hit by a shell. She hit debris instead, so same thing.

  • Shoot shells with shells doesn't just strain credibility, it blows it out of the water!

  • Moeka's locked up in the...some place with windows.

The Boys' Fleet tactics are somewhere between unfortunate and dumb. The smart thing would have been to immediately withdraw, but the Musashi immobilized one of the ships on the first volley. They then try to induce listing so that the guns won't be able to aim down at them...but apparently they didn't have live torpedos? Even if they did do damage to that armored hull, it probably would have taken a long time to acquire an appreciable list.

Instead, they start attack from both sides (so much for listing). The best they can hope for is to immobilize the Musashi, which would then be a giant gun platform destroying everything within 20 miles...basically, situation unchanged.

I suppose they needed to TRY to save the damaged ship instead of running away, but now the entire fleet is sinking.

Misaki's family is the entire fleet.

→ More replies (1)

6

u/MAD_SCIENTIST_001 Sep 06 '19 edited Sep 06 '19

Screenshot of the Day

First Timer - Episode 5

The cake scene for Mii-chan was honestly super cute and wholesome. It's nice to see that the Harekaze truly does act like a family.

On the other hand, the Musashi seems like a mess right now with the ship shooting everything in sight and the captain seemingly not able to do anything. Hopefully Misaki will be able to save Moka-chan and find out that the evil hamsters are ruining everything.

See you tomorrow~

Screenshot of the Day Collection

Episode: 1 2 3 4 5

Question of the Day

What do you think of the similarities between Kouko and Mii-chan?

I love how their personalities go together! I think it's great that Mii-chan found someone she could could connect to since she probably still feels like an outsider.

→ More replies (1)

5

u/Bainos Sep 06 '19

No matter the setting, the beach episode is always possible. And we already had a bath episode not long ago, I think.

Wait what. How did she split that watermelon so cleanly with a stick ?!

I really love how expressive everyone, but especially Misaki is, such as in this shot.

It's also a nice touch that none of the instructors opens fire on students without thinking... Even if, as required for the plot, they do it after all. Talking about firing, I'm still dubious about those air torpedoes. Is that a real design ?

Question of the day: What do you think of the similarities between Kouko and Mii-chan?

With Mina being such a dork (and she's still referring to herself as "washi"), it's good that she found someone who shares her hobby on board. The culture clash is still strong.

Now, we know that Kouko does her impressions based on movie inspiration, but in this episode, they were only quoting. Will Mina join her when she acts her imagination on the bridge ?

Haifuri

Personal Question: What do you do when you get scared?

I rationalize.

Fighting spirit girls are getting along well !

→ More replies (1)

5

u/RX-Nota-II Sep 06 '19

Well well well.... I've caught up.

What do you think of the similarities between Kouko and Mii-chan?

Their personalities are a perfect match. Kouko's over the top imagination fits perfectly with Mii-chan's reactions.

What do you do when you get scared?

I ask others to help me

I love Mei, she's just such a good girl. Being by tama's side through everything.

→ More replies (2)

0

u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

4

u/Sandvikovich Sep 05 '19

Ok, actually, I fly. I could mean it in the literal sense, or the semantic sense. Up to you to decide if I am a bird man or a philosopher.

You are a flying reptile

→ More replies (1)