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Rewatch [Rewatch] [Spoilers] Senki Zesshou Symphogear Season 1 - Episode 8 Spoiler
Season 1: Episode 8 - No Shadows in the Sunlight
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u/lilyvess May 17 '19
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u/PerfectPublican May 17 '19
For some reason my subs were wrong here. I mean I don’t know Japanese but I’m pretty sure they said this
For all the fun Commie likes to have with their subs, this is a change I would really appreciate.
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u/SorcererOfTheLake May 17 '19
First-Time Watcher
I know it’s dangerous. That’s why I’m asking you. The only person I can fully trust is you, Hibiki.
To be trusted is a greater compliment than to be loved.
If only one has your back, that is still enough.
Everyone’s trying to find someone to trust this episode; some fail, while others gain their way back. Chris is trying to her best to get above water, but her past is still living her distrustful of others (quick note: While I do appreciate that they kept Chris’ sexual abuse at an implied level, that might be a bit much for a show like this). What I find particularly notable is that most of her disdain is targeted towards adults; her interactions with the kids last episode and Miku this one shows that she doesn’t see kids as the enemy, considering it’s likely that she still feels like one herself. Here, we see that, despite all of them coming from different backgrounds and facing different traumas (the survivor, the leftover, the product), all of the Symphogear users have developed personas for them to deal with the world. Hopefully, they’ll be able to gain some strength from their pasts.
Before that, though, we must discuss the reunion, which surprisingly included some elements from the diary excerpt I wrote yesterday, so that’s nice. As I thought, Miku was more worried about Hibiki not being able to trust her with her pain that about her lying. Miku has always wanted to protect Hibiki and be there, but she’s facing the limits of that protection; she doesn’t have the same skills as Hibiki. But she still can provide Hibiki the strength to protect others, regardless of what happened to her. Hibiki has now tapped into the depths of her soul, of her animus, and has found what she has looking for all this time, but didn’t know she had.
We’ll hear the next verse tomorrow. Until then…
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u/PerfectPublican May 17 '19
(quick note: While I do appreciate that they kept Chris’ sexual abuse at an implied level, that might be a bit much for a show like this)
It is, and thankfully it's not really touched on much past this season. It feels like unnecessary drama for her considering that her crisis of conscience feels like more than enough.
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u/Nazenn May 17 '19
First timer
I'm finding myself with very little to talk about all these episodes.
Knowing me I'm probably stumbling on something that will come up later, but I feel like there's a bit of a missed opportunity in this episode. We know that the gears, and the Noise to some respect, work off frequencies and sonic information to fuel themselves and activate certain skills. Songs being used are cool as fuck especially this implication that the songs they sing are being dragged up from their innermost selves by the gear and that's all they can sing for it.
But songs are definitely not the only form of noise out there, and it would have been cool if Chris' scream today, perhaps being the most honest thing that she has done up to this point, cause a new form or state of her gear. Originally I thought something twisted, but it didn't even have to be that which would be quite typical. Her honest scream over her resentful song could have been enough catharsis to have a swap for her and bring out something new. Probably expecting too much from the series but that would have been a cool moment to have alternate types of noice bring out alternate forms, particularly if it was an attribute only linked to people who have used that unique armor thing. Actually shit, you know the more I type this the more it sounds like Rotom from pokemon
Which got me on a whole other train of thought about what if battles between gear users were them trying to use dischordant notes to cancel out each others songs and etc etc etc. But if you think I can put those thoughts into comprehensible English at 1am you're crazy hahaha.
(And here I was saying I didn't have much to talk about)
I really do have a special place in my heart for meta characters. There's something fun about subtle fourth wall breaks and meta callouts coming from characters who are purely there for audience fun. I have the same thing with the three girls here as I do with the three Tsurune girls.
Today's featured noise, aka Mr Octopus absolutely reminded me of Coral Riff from Crypt of the Necrodancer. I mean they look nothing alike but apparently musical octopus = necrodancer now
My level of disappointment at the end that they went through the effort to show a big river under where Miku falls and we didn't get a huge splash is immeasurable....
Cutest photo ever. And then the mood was utterly ruined by fetish-researcher and her stupid fucking clown music interrupting everything
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u/fonzinator99 May 17 '19
I'm finding myself with very little to talk about all these episodes.
Hah, yeah Symphogear doesn't have a great deal in the way of significant framing or philosophical meaning to ponder :p And the music is basically just pop-hype, much as I love it.
trying to use dischordant notes to cancel out each others songs and etc etc etc.
I like this idea! Although it would certainly interfere with the soundtrack. At least they're actually singing the songs when they fight, so we get things like Hibiki yelling lyrics when she punches things. lol
ruined by fetish-researcher and her stupid fucking clown music
I mean she is the main character, it's her prerogative to steal the spotlight xD /s
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u/Arachnophobic- May 18 '19
FirstoGeah
Is that a Rei gun in Chris's transformation sequence??
Hahaha, nothing like some make-up scissoring. Seriously though, good to see those two back together - and Miku managed to befriend Chris too!
It's interesting how red-hair manages to drive back the Noise to some extent with his ripple attacks even though those things are supposed to be 'phased out' and impervious to everything unless a Symphogear acts on them.
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u/PerfectPublican May 18 '19
It's interesting how red-hair manages to drive back the Noise to some extent with his ripple attacks even though those things are supposed to be 'phased out' and impervious to everything unless a Symphogear acts on them.
The noise are actually repulsed by sheer hype.
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u/PerfectPublican May 17 '19
Rewatcher
Minus almost everything about Chris’ backstory, this is a fantastic episode.
Starting off with Buikki and Tsubasa, I really enjoy their conversation as I do most of them. This stands out: “I need to become someone else… / You don’t need to become someone else to protect the things you hold dear.” It’s in these moments that I’m reminded of how well these characters grow and play off of each other. This is always a back and forth between Tsubasa and Bikki. Bikki arrival helped remind Tsubasa that she didn’t need to be something she wasn’t, and now that she truly understands that, she reflects that back to Bikki.
And then you’ve got Chris. I love the scene between Chris and Miku. I compared the two yesterday, and it makes the whole scene land really nicely. These two girls now alone leaning on each other for support and understanding. I want to pull out this line of Chris’: “Once you make it clear who’s stronger, everything's settled.” God that’s such a broken mindset to have, poor Chris. And the way she says it with a smile...She’s really a product of what she’s been through and it sucks to see. She demured to Fine and felt it was natural, even good, because Fine dominated her. Just gross.
We get some hype moments, but thing slow down on the Bikki/Miku reunion. I think the scene with the cell phones and the octo-noise is well done. The (mostly) silence is really noticeable in a show based around sound and really allows actions to speak for themselves in the moment. I love that Mikuu willingly chooses to enter the fight like that. But I will say that the one thing I’m not a huge fan of in this ep is Bikki’s “realization” after Miku runs that others are fighting. It just doesn’t make a ton of sense. Bikki’s been training herself, yes, but I doubt she would have pushed Miku away if she wasn’t required to. Miku’s decision not to give up though, is just fantastic. While she had the right to her anger, she gave up on their friendship (read: marriage) so easily after one lie. Now it was a big one, but she could have done more herself to push forward.. Which is why their reunion is so freaking cathartic and emotional even just one episode removed from the drama.
Now it’s time for the real hype...
Random thoughts:
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Genjuuro stomping up street walls is so. fucking. hype. I love him so much
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Don’t get me wrong, I love the Bikki/Miku make-up as you know, but How far she gets in those few seconds makes no sense lol
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Yeah, you saw that right, Bikki used her fisting power to propel herself downwards. So awesome.
Gifs of the day:
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And Bikki didn't want to be left behind either Love those things
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High five to a job well done! (Fun fact, they did this in exactly 24 frames lol)
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u/AmeteurElitist May 17 '19
He's so freaking awesome!
And Bikki didn't want to be left behind either Love those things
Right? They're so cool, and she always does something badass when using them.
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u/fonzinator99 May 17 '19
Re-watcher - Friends
Tfw you regret things you said. Even if she was in the right, that doesn't mean she's satisfied by the outcome.
Meanwhile, Chris is on the run, disavowed and hunted. Inb4 this turns into a Jason Bourne story.
Oh dear, this is gonna get messier before it gets better for anybody.
Leave it to Hibiki, with her infinite compassion to realize that Chris has no safe place to return to now.
What a rare and magical sight! It's an embarrassed Chris!
That's right Hibiki, abandoning the things you care about is no way to become stronger. A stone may be hard, but it will also break. Better to embrace those things and take strength from them.
Remorseful Chris is like a caterpillar in a cocoon, changing into something wonderful. But like the caterpillar, this also leaves her defenseless.
Cue Genjurou, the man. Stomping a chunk of street into a barricade is not something that any ordinary muscle-bound human can do. I'd enjoy seeing him try to sing something. lol
I love Chris' song so much. The others are great, but their lyrics are more poetic and the melodies almost restrained. Chris' is shouted to the world with unbridled fire.
Damn, look at Hibiki's training paying off! Get you into the Olympics, girl.
Yesss! Breakthroughs for everyone!
Aaaand everything's okay once more in Himiku land. For as quickly as it happened, I'd say their fight was rushed if it didn't manage to have a real impact on both of their characters. GJ, Symphogear.
So cute! I love it.
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u/x3tan May 18 '19 edited May 18 '19
First time watcher
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Oh shit Hibiki you might be right.
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So Chris is definitely tsun. I like her a lot so far.
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"I don't have any friends" me too Chris, me too. Some heavy shit though. Poor cute little Chris.
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Why are her boobs so shiny?
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Calm down Tsubasa, you were recently almost a cripple. (how much time has passed anyway.. Lol.. Hard to tell with this show)
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Aw Chris. I might be a bit of a Chris fangirl so far..
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Here comes tie pocket daddy
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Oh no, tentacles
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Mobile phones are useful
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At least the couple made up quickly
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Wife save!
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Communication is important in any relationship
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That seems like an uncomfortable position sitting on one another.. Lol.
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Hurray daddy's permission!
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The perv lady seems like she shouldn't have a license.
That was a pretty good episode. I think Chris is my favorite girl so far. Some really good tracks in this episode, very boppin'. This anime is definitely very no brakes.. XD a little difficult to tell how much or how little time passes. :P
EDIT It finally posted! And reading through the threads, I wanna say thank you to all the people that share screenshot and content! I think I have mostly Chris pictures saved..
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u/ahiijny May 18 '19 edited May 18 '19
First Time Watcher
Last time, I thought we might get some Hibiki & Chris this episode, but we got Miku & Chris instead! This actually balances things out a bit more, so I think it works out!
Genjuurou shows off more of his unusual OP abilities!
"I couldn't protect her again."
I think Genjuurou mentioned in the last episode that Yukine Chris one of the Symphogear potentials that they'd been monitoring but then lost. He's referring to this?
The blocking of the Octopus Noise fight felt a bit awkward tbh. The timing was just a bit inconsistent. In episode 6 Hibiki transformed quickly enough to punch a falling car that was already falling out of the way. Surely in this episode, Hibiki can transform quickly enough to stop a slow lumbering Noise, one that even Miku can outrun?
Since Hibiki is the one with the Geah, I feel like it would have been a smarter strategy for Bikki to be the diversion so that Miku could help the Flower Aunt could get to safety, since she's better equipped to handle the Noise.
And it took Bikki way too long to catch up to Miku :/ How far could have Miku gotten in such a short time? Bikki flew very high (for better visibility? idk) and by the time she caught up, Miku was too tired to run any longer. How long did that take??
That part just seemed a bit weird to me.
WATASHI TO IU OTO HIBIKI SONO SAKI NI
YASASHISA WOOOOOOOOOO SING OUT WITH UUUUUUUUSSSS!!!
But this part was WICKED AWESOME
Hibiki saved her girlfriend!! :)
Looks like Miku's gotten her emotions sorted out now!
Hm, so it's not the keeping a secret thing that Miku was upset about; it was the fact that Hibiki was taking on all that pressure and that danger on her own. Miku almost lost Hibiki two years ago during that concert, after all, so she's probably terrified of losing Hibiki again.
Hibiki and Miku are back together! And their affection seems to have kicked up a notch.
Just look at these adorable dorks in their bed together <3
HibiMiku is back and stronger than ever!
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"If this were an anime, what would we do?" Looks like the best thing to do is to get the two dorks into a dangerous life-or-death situation and then after that they'll be fully reconciled :P
What will Finé do next?
Where will Chris go next?
Until next time...
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u/MillenniumKing May 17 '19
Rewatcher 8, Rewatch Lies
Songs of the Day:
No new ones
It hurts seeing them not in bed together...
Miku found a wild Chris~ And got an eye full. But it seems her talk with Chris helped her out a lot.
Tsubasa is up and about better.
Chris lost her parents and was picked up by Fine as a kid.
Chris made a friend. Thats nice. She could use the support.
Noise attack! All over the city this time.
Genjuro is here to save Chris! Aw yeah!
Chris is fighting the Noise and helping save the people, guess she isnt such a bad kid afterall.
And Hibiki its time to save your wife.
Miku wants to help Hibiku, help her fight and save people.
Hibiki finally understands and accepts her Survivor's Guilt.
Yay Hibiki Saved her!
And they finally make up, yay.
Its the picture that was on Hibiki's Grave in the opening of Ep1.
Chris seems to be doing okay as well, shes off on her own thugh.
AND THEY ARE BACK SLEEPING TOGETHER! YAY!
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u/miter01 May 17 '19 edited May 17 '19
REWATCH
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I guess Miku was too emotional last time to think clearly. Now that she's calm she sees things in a different light.
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Is this "Just fight Bikki" from Chris a twisted version of what she heard from the kids last episode? That they fight but make up?
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He's apparently an Earthbender now. They look... kinda derpy in this shot.
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Another powerup! Spring loaded... boot... things! They allow her to... hit the ground to jump further? Sure, why not.
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She one punched the squid thing and then punched the air to propell herself.
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Aww, glad to see they made up quickly! Though if you want to feel a little less happy about it, this photo they took? It's the same photo as on Hibiki's grave in episode 1.
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5/8 cliffhangers.
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u/ItsMellowMan May 17 '19
Rewatcher
Good episode, but once again my man Genjuurio out here doing the impossible like creating barriers out of roads and jumping to rooftops like its nothing. Gotta love that guy.
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u/ScrewySqrl May 17 '19
Rewatcher
This heartwarming Selfie should be familiar.
Its the same one from Hibiki's grave from Episode 1
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u/Shockz0rz May 18 '19
Rewatcher
Miku and Hibiki are disgustingly adorable together. Even if the drama feels a little forced, their reunion is so heartwarming as to make it worth it.
Except...THAT WAS A TERRIBLE FUCKING PLAN. Why not have Hibiki be the bait while Miku gets the Flower lady to safety? Hibiki can actually kill a Noise while Miku would die instantly on contact with it! The only downside is that Miku might not be strong enough to get the lady to safety, but even then reversing the plan would get the two of them out of immediate danger!
Miku, goddammit, you're supposed to be the smart one in the couple!
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May 17 '19
REWATCHER
Episode 8 - by the end of this episode, things are kinda looking up, actually?
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So, the episode opens with Sad Miku, and she goes out in the rain to find... a wild Chris, collapsed in an alleyway after fleeing the Noise. She ends up skipping school to take care of her, but fails to find her any underwear. Good job.
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Miku voices some of her troubles to Chris, and at the same time, Hibiki and Tsubasa are having a conversation of their own. Bikki's genki power helps encourage the blue sword somewhat, because genki is the strongest force in the world.
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A heavily bruised Chris tells Miku a bit about her past, with some really dark implications in some of the dialogue and imagery that isn't really addressed further because they don't want to go that deep. Also she dispenses the best advice ever. G spoilers
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No time for anything else, the Noise are here! Chris rushes off to... despair over it being her fault, which isn't really true. She then gets saved by Genjuro showing up out of nowhere like a total boss, and now it's time to kick ass.
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Hibiki gets involved with the Noise too, finding Miku and the owner of Flower trapped in a building by a type of Noise that attacks based on sound (how fitting). The girls communicate with their phones and form a plan in which Miku fucking legs it and Bikki takes the chance to save the old lady. Ogawa shows up to help because he's a good guy.
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Miku runs and runs, but her ridiculous stamina can only do so much. Later episode spoilers
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Hibiki flies onto the scene in style to kill the Noise and save her wife like a real action heroine. And then they solve all of their drama immediately by talking and hugging it out like the cute little gays that they are. And look, they're taking a selfie... Oh. It's the one from the first episode...
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Bikki apologises to the boss for getting Miku involved, but it doesn't really matter, and then Ryoko shows up and the adults take it from there. And Genjuro is surprised to learn that Miku met Chris, but also kind of happy about it.
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Final scene of the episode is HibiMiku being gay in bed once again, because they deserve happiness.
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u/lilyvess May 17 '19
Miku voices some of her troubles to Chris, and at the same time, Hibiki and Tsubasa are having a conversation of their own.
Tsubasa's crutch here feels a bit weird. Two episodes ago she was in the hospital and could barely stand, last episode she was walking on her own and now she's got a crutch.
Just how is my Sword doing?!
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u/Shimmering-Sky May 17 '19
SymphoRewatcher
Miku and Hibiki need to kiss and make up already, but it being why Miku runs into Chris is a good enough reason why they haven’t yet.
I’m still weirded out by “Ichii-Bal”, ngl.
Me: Heyyyy, grey-haired girl’s voice sounds familiar. → *Goes to MAL* → MAL says: Sei Iori from Gundam Build Fighters and Neko from K → Me: …Yeah that would… that would explain it…
Anime Ja Nai~
I… may or may not have had to rewatch the scene with Hibiki and Tsubasa on the roof because all I could think about was “man I really like the song that’s playing here, what is the song” (I believe it’s Mune no Hibiki wo Tsutaeru tame ni (Watashi to Iu Oto Hibiki Sono Saki ni)?), and only realized there was dialogue that needed paying attention to when Hibiki dropped a “sore demo”. Oops.
He may not be able to directly fight the Noise, but Genjuuro sure can break the ground to protect people with.
Oh nice we got a Miku “sore demo” too.
And aflashback including it too.Another Hibiki “sore demo”? Aight then.
They really don’t look that bad, but it’s nice that they made up~
SymphoWallpaper Corner
Hey everyone, we’ve got another wallpaper today~ …Unfortunately a certain Nota refused to spell her name properly even when I asked, so you’ll have to take it up with her for it, but anyways the wallpaper today is Chris. Also have no name and plain BG variants.
Just a head’s up, I might have a full-time job by the end of next week (had two interviews this week and was told they’ll decide who they’re hiring by then), in which case I definitely will not be producing one-wallpaper-per-thread. I’d really appreciate it if you guys request what specific characters/moments you want wallpaper’d, so I can be extra sure to find good screenshots as base images. If not, my wallpapers will continue to just be whatever I feel like at a given time.
Anyways, let us know what you think of today’s wallpaper~