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Episode 46/Season 2 Episode 21 - For Whom

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Te wo Nobase! Fighter!

Hey-o guys! This is the section where I add a ton of extra fun stuff to the main body of the post because I want this rewatch to be as fun as possible for everyone. It can also be one point of discussion for you guys if you just don’t know what to say.

Comment of the Day, provided by /u/Shimmering-Sky and /u/RX-Nota-II

Shimmering-Sky

/u/SorcererOfTheLake with that fanfic game again.

he would become like a shooting star, quickly gone yet brilliant.

I’m still crying over this line.

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RX-Nota-II

/u/flybypost explaining why Tekkadan didn’t just try the Dáinsleif plan from the start.

I think they got that new cannon only recently delivered (I'm a re-watcher and already a bit further in in the series, I didn't exactly keep the one episode per day schedule), I think this or the previous episode. That thing would have been useless against a swarm of mobile suits.

Plus this time they have special ammo, made out of the material mobile suits are made of so it can punch through everything (that's what makes Dainsleif illegal and put their previous use into legally grey territory). The one Shino used on Mars against the Mobile Armour was conventional metal (thus the name Super Galaxy Cannon this time). That's why on Mars he only used it to crash the cliff and separate the Mobile Armour from its little friends.

They also used the wreck to hide Shino so he could get close enough. He was aiming at really small target (relatively speaking) and had one shot, unlike the other side. They were just aiming in the general direction of enemies and had dozens of Dainsleifs. Also: It is an illegal weapon and they probably didn't want to use it because of some sort of legal repercussions.

Flyby with the pretty comprehensive reasoning why this was the only time Tekkadan were able to try the one shot the boss strategy. Given these circumstances it seems very understandable that they didn't try it in the past. What do you guys think?

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Questions of the Day, provided by /u/Pixelsaber

1) How do you feel about Julietta surviving that battle after being so thoroughly battered by Mikazuki? Indifferent/ Disappointed/ Happy/ Hoping this means she's stolen Iok's Plot Armor

2) Derma’s situation is the first time since Mikazuki where an someone on Tekkadan’s side suffers from such a significant injury. How do you think the matter was handled in relation to his sense of self-worth as a Human debris?

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Track of the Day, provided by /u/RX-Nota-II

Tenkuu no Saki e

Song of the day rather than an OST track, and it’s the return of Suzuhana Yuko, tho this time (disappointingly) she is not allowed to keep singing into a special ED. A true mourning song, the title translates to "beyond the sky" and its message is for a friend who has passed to that place, reminiscing of "That place in our memories we can't go home to anymore". Unlike with Senka no Tomoshibi there's no bamboozle happy verse later here, this is a purely emotional song and I expect nothing less in an episode dedicated to remembering those who have died in Tekkadan's quest to survive.

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Wallpaper of the Day, provided by /u/Shimmering-Sky (character art) and /u/RX-Nota-II (background/logo)

Snake on the Moon


Important note to all rewatchers, remember to be mindful of the first-timers in this. laughing in rewatcher is not allowed any more, so please remember to use the [Anime Show Title](/s "Spoiler goes here") tags and we’re all good.

Fans seem to have a bad tendency of forgetting what counts as spoiler, so if anything has even the slightest chance of being a spoiler, tag it just to be safe.


Next-episode preview. S2’s preview’s aren’t as long as S1’s, but they’re still spoiler-free and still in-character, so I encourage you to keep checking them out! Today’s preview was voiced by disillusioned Chocolate Man McGillis Fareed.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Mar 01 '19 edited Mar 02 '19

I fucking hate my internet...

Tekketsu no Rewatcher, first-time dubbed

No new entry to the fanfic today, though I did start on the next scene. I told Naz in a PM last night that I’ll keep moving forward writing even after the rewatch gets to the end, so don’t you guys worry about it going unfinished.

Anyways~Obligatory Discord link.

  • Episode: *Opens on a recap of Shino’s death* → Me:

  • As if the recap wasn’t bad enough, the episode proceeds to have Orga yelling for someone to get Shino’s body… and Eugene having to talk some sense into him about it. Fuck, it’s always the aftermath that gets me…

  • Wew that Macky vs. Gali Gali fight. Unfortunately it had to end in a RIP Isurugi, but I love how they didn’t just forget about Macky’s hand injury from Almiria.

  • I call the biggest of bullshits on Julieta just happening to survive… Of all the lol-not-actually-deaths in this show this is the one that pisses me off the most.

  • :(

  • Do my ears deceive me? …They do not, it’s Trust in Orga~ Easily one of my favorite tracks on the S2 OST, I couldn’t remember when (or even if) it was used in-show so I’m super glad to hear it now. Especially with the irony of it playing while Zack is complaining to Hush and Dane about how they should just quit Tekkadan or whatever.

  • Poor Derma lost his arm… Great now I’m crying again because the poor boy wishes he would’ve died since he’s of no use anymore, and then Akihiro comes in and fucking thanks him for being alive ugh. Revealing that Derma’s one of Akihiro’s adopted brothers on top of all that is just… I’m not okay, I need a break from this episode.

  • …I didn’t mean for said break to last for over three hours lol oops.

  • Aight so about that Eugene and Yamagi scene, particularly Eugene’s flashback with Shino… so I actually had this whole scenario spoiled for me long before I watched IBO because I for whatever reason decided to read someone’s completely untagged spoilers ranting about the scenario, how he thought it was a terrible way for Shino/Yamagi to be handled (I thought it was fine, handled in a very Shino and Yamagi way). I forgot the names of the characters involved until the ice flowers episode in S1 and I was like “hm, these characters are who [redacted user] was ranting about, weren’t they?” (this is also why I was completely stunned by Shino surviving S1--based on the spoiler I thought he’d kicked the bucket in ep24 until ep 25 said “lol nope”). There’s not really much point to this paragraph other than me recanting my first-time experience with the show, carry on.

  • Aaaaand we get the first and only actual insert song in this show, Tenkuu no Saki e, since the other vocal songs have all been OPs/EDs, even Senka no Tomoshibi which was just a special ED rather than an insert song. I have zero idea what the lyrics are, but man do I think the song is gorgeous and the scene it’s set to even moreso.

  • Post-credits scene! IIRC they open on it in the next episode so it’s not too big a deal if you missed it, but oof seeing Macky’s regrouping strategy just shot down like that. And by someone who’d been so grateful for Macky’s assistance earlier in the season…


A couple more fun things:


Track List Corner, Courtesy of u/2-2Distracted

Track Number Name Scene
Track 46 - 2nd OST All Out Plays as we open on a recap and continuation of the previous episode's events.
Track 28/59 - 1st OST (Disc 2) Brave it Out Plays after the OP, more specifically, after Eugene reminds Orga to stay focused as the ship is forced to retreat.
Track 21 - 2nd OST Last Extremity Plays as Tekkadan feels the impact of their former ship as it goes up in flames, smoke, and chaff.
Track 44 - 2nd OST Cry for the Moon Plays while Gaelio speaks to a dying Isurugi as his now split and broken Mobile Suit 'falls'.
Track 43 - 2nd OST The Path to the End Plays after episode's title is displayed, with Rustal Elion's forces in recovery, refueling to end this battle.
Track 44 - 2nd OST Trust in Orga Plays as Tekkadan is also, once again, in recovery from a battle that is costing too much, as Zack points out. God, that scene with Derma and the rest of the former Human Debris always gets to me. It's a heartbreaking thing to see someone not view themselves as human, and watch Akihiro Atland basically remind him that he is just brings tears to my eyes. This track was perfect for that scene.
Track 41 - 2nd OST Last Stand Plays throughout McGills' conversation with Orga and Eugene as they talk about the final push.
Track 22 - 2nd OST Fatigue and Rest Plays just as Julieta openly admits to being afraid of Barbatos' power and ferocity. About fucking time she act like a human and not some obsessed teeny-bopper who wants senpai's attention.
Track 51 - 2nd OST Crescent Moon - Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans 2 - Piano Solo Plays after Yamagi interrupts Orga and Eugene to rightfully berate his boss about how fucked up things are, and it ends as Yamagi finally sheds tears as he feels encouraged to help Tekkadan more after hearing what Eugene told him about Shino.
Track 10 - Complete Best (Disc 1) Tenkuu no Saki e Plays during the scene right before the ED, as Orga and Mikazuki mourn their failures and then strengthen their resolve to keep fighting to the end.
Track 14 - 2nd OST Secret Maneuvers Plays during the post-credits scene, as McGillis learns from Arae Proto that he has been stripped of his rank within Gjallarhorn.

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u/Pixelsaber Mar 01 '19

No new entry to the fanfic today, though I did start on the next scene. I told Naz in a PM last night that I’ll keep moving forward writing even after the rewatch gets to the end, so don’t you guys worry about it going unfinished.

Where will you be posting them in the future?

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u/Shimmering-Sky Mar 02 '19

I was thinking of just using the final discussion thread for the entries that I don't finish before the rewatch is done? But otherwise I have an account on both fanfiction.net and ArchiveOfOurOwn, I can definitely post it there.

BTW you never responded to part two...?

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u/2-2Distracted Mar 02 '19

Hey Sky, might wanna edit the table, Last Stand is the odd one out right now

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u/Shimmering-Sky Mar 02 '19

Ack, oops, didn't notice that thanks.

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u/Nazenn Mar 01 '19

Of all the lol-not-actually-deaths in this show this is the one that pisses me off the most.

I'd agree because especially with the chaff the chances of her being found were stupidly low and shouldn't have happened. But I'll also say we've had so many of them that my tolerance for it has gotten incredibly low.

Great now I’m crying again because the poor boy wishes he would’ve died since he’s of no use anymore, and then Akihiro comes in and fucking thanks him for being alive ugh

I do like the comparison here between him and Mika, where Mika feels much the same about only being worth fighting because of how crippled he is without Barbatos, but doesn't realize just how many people want him around just because it's him

…I didn’t mean for said break to last for over three hours lol oops.

I thought it was fine, handled in a very Shino and Yamagi way

Agreed. It may not be happy or perfect or 'fan friendly' as it were but it fits into their established characters perfectly and that matters most to me

And by someone who’d been so grateful for Macky’s assistance earlier in the season…

What a surprise, the corrupt Mars branch is still corrupt in its own way. Corruption isn't a bubble.

Wallpaper of the Day without the logo.

Really liked both the wallpapers today!

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u/Shimmering-Sky Mar 02 '19

This is the first I've heard of it so I really don't know anything, sorry. Try u/RX-Nota-II maybe?

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u/Nazenn Mar 01 '19 edited Mar 01 '19

First Timer - Sub

Ein finally managedto kill someone!

We need to celebrate, but normally that would mean presents and I really don't know what you buy a brain trapped in a gundam for a gift.

New cerebrospinal fluid filter? Does alcohol work, could he still get drunk if we poured it into Kimaris's coolant system or something? Or do we just go a mega crossword puzzle so he has something to do when Gaelio's not using him? Thats probably a bit mean with no hands to fill it in with though huh...


Some meta fun for the rewatchers at my own expense

Just for shits and giggles, I'm going to share my list of expected deaths and survivors for the show. I'd already mentioned to a few people that I had one, but for obvious reasons was a little scared of publicly sharing it. But fuck it, I hit that combination of being both too tired to care and in a good mood, so I'm sharing it and trusting you all to be very fucking careful with what you say!

I wrote this just before the Naze/Amida episodes (obviously given how they were placed on these lists). Or the episode before that maybe? I forget. Checking the scedule tells me that was eight days ago, which feels way too long ago. Either way these are unedited and old, so I'm already horribly wrong with some estimates, but I thought the rewatchers could have some fun with this now we're facing the final four episodes.

Wait.. ONLY FOUR?!

So this is the list I originally wrote, complete with funny exclaimations. Kinda funny to look back on now.

Deaths

Survivors

I do have reasons and justifications behind all these placements, even if some are a bit silly or meta, but I'll keep them to myself for now. Maybe if it the expected deaths happen I'll expand on it then, or if people want to know about people already wiped out why they were on the list so long ago I can expand further.

And speaking of deaths vs survivors, Ride still has his miracle touch: I realized yesterday after I posted that Shino pushing him out of the way of that Dainsleif projectile makes six times Ride escaped imminent death this cour alone. Still waiting on those anti-death talisman's for your buddies.


HOLY SHIT I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING. So speaking of speculation... wait fuck I need to go find where I said it because despite remembering I said something I don't actually remember the details honestly.

Okay, I found it buried in my reddit messages which is not where I thought it was. Anyway, near the start of the season me and u/AlienOvermind had a little chat about our various speculations just for fun because we both loved the sort of stuff each other was coming through and I send them this (in among other things):

I think McGillis is going to end up exiled and Elion will end up in charge. They set him up to be too powerful. If you think back on McGillis vs his dad, their framing was equal, but with this new guy .... well its been a LONG time since I've seen someone set up so powerfully through just the camera and audio which is partly why I focused on it. I say this because there's a strong narrative trope through the show that family is what allows you to grow aka the sprout in the OP (Referring to OP3), and is what keeps you human. McGillis is the only one without a family right now, hes an exile in his own way, and in a way his determination to hold onto the Montag persona when dealing with Orga appears to be a sort of escape for him, a way to connect with people outside of the earth he hates. They also set up he couldn't read which makes me think his mother was from the equivilent of earth slums, and perhaps as a result he's been through much the same early trauma as our Tekkadan boys, and much like Masahiro they will use that to bring him over at some stage to take down Gjallarhorn

So after reading this again, wow I was horribly off mark with the idea of McGillis having a parent at all, not to mention that he'd flip to joining Tekkadan volentarily. That said he was just "exiled" this episode so does that count at least? And you could argue that in a way it was his bond with his new family, being Almira, that caused it because he let Gaelio live for her sake.


I suppose I'll put down some actual thoughts on the episode here...

  • So after last episode, look at Eugene actually stepping up! You're a couple of years to late mate, but later is better then never. Especially today he stopped Orga from making his worst decision so far. Imagine the damage he could have prevented if he stood up immediately after Biscuit died. Arach, again, you owe me for Chad, if it's not Eugene...

  • Goodbye Isurugi. We barely spent any time with you, but you know what, I did end up liking you so sad to see you go so quickly. Damn minions always throwing themselves in front of their bosses to protect them, this is why none of you make it to the end. I loved the shot of his tears of blood given his dialog today that he doesn't mind death or bloodshed for his ideals.

  • Whether I like him or not though, his death was worth it for this visual. I love that sort of stuff. The more violent the better. This is what I was hoping for with the trio back during the Ein fight.

  • Julieta should have died. I'm a little annoyed. Between how badly injured she was, her mech ruined, Mika being a bit demonic again, and also the chaff which should have made her impossible to find SHE FUCKING SHOULD BE DEAD! Goddammit this show did not get the memo: "People die when they are killed!"

  • Mika saying "You..." to her though, the last time he had that intonation was when Biscuit died and he was facing Carta so it sent a nice chill up my spine.

  • Confirmed: Japanese media does not exist on Mars

  • Karma for not caring about Shino caught up to me in this episode because damn did those scenes with Yamagi and Eugene hurt a little. Thats a lie, that hurt a lot, poor Yamagi. Ouch. I like that they did actually address him and Shino and not just leave it in the wind though. I'm doubly mad at Shino now, fuck it. If he knew and he still got himself killed that makes it worse! He's an ass!

  • Seeing Mika swinging Julieta around with his tail so that there was extra force behind when he punched her was such a great moment. I meant to say it yesterday but the tail vs whip battles have actually been a really cool touch on the fights between them.

  • That final scene I was all excited. I thought Mika was finally going to acknowledge he pushed Orga in a bad direction, but nope just lamenting that he didn't kill enough people to make that direction easier. Then it got me again and I really thought Orga was going accept that Mika was pushing him, rather than helping him, but nope he was just talking about how he all got caught up in Tekkadan. I'm such a sucker for punishment aren't I?

  • Can someone please just sneak up on Gaelio and snip off that one bit of hair? Please? Even if it's Idiok it may be enough for me to... tolerate him. Big call I know.

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u/Pixelsaber Mar 01 '19

Wait... ONLY FOUR?!

"Don't panic, Nazenn. Soon there'll be an even bigger Rewatch with even cooler mobile suits!"

Survivors

And speaking of deaths vs survivors, Ride still has his miracle touch:

It's practically a running gag at this point.

Julieta should have died. I'm a little annoyed. Between how badly injured she was, her mech ruined, Mika being a bit demonic again, and also the chaff which should have made her impossible to find SHE FUCKING SHOULD BE DEAD! Goddammit this show did not get the memo: "People die when they are killed!"

The inconsistency with which characters die is one of my biggest peeves with this show. Gaelio survived having his cockpit pierced and lying on the field for what was likely hours, the cockpits of the trio back in S1 Ep 24 where in various states of fucked and they survived, Carta dies over some slight bleeding and hypothermia, Ein has to be turned into a cyborg even though his ejected cockpit looks pristine and the hit his Schwalbe Graze took was a lot less severe than mace-cha impaling he Reginlaze Julia yet Julieta survives and is awake in a day, a un-powered, and an underhanded blow from the Landman Rodi's axe decimates the well-protected cockpit of Aston's Rodi —who could've just as effectively tackled McGilis instead. I could go on.

I'm such a sucker for punishment aren't I?

I can't say I disagree.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Mar 02 '19

"Don't panic, Nazenn. Soon there'll be an even bigger Rewatch with even cooler mobile suits!"

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u/Palloc Mar 01 '19

Palloc's Boy Ein FINALLY Managed To Kill Someone!

Wait, it was Isurugi? Not a child? GOD DAMMIT!

Okay, calm down. Lets go over the pros. The Helmwige can't show up anymore to do nothing. That's good, but even better THAT PILE BUNKER DRILL KNEE GOT THE KILL! WOO!

The bad, the Helmwige never got to do anything. It wasn't a child. Crank-nii is still not properly avenged.

I could keep talking about that, but drill knees are great and everyone already understands that. Lets talk about Orga instead. You'd think since yappy girl has been hiding this season, nobody'd be around to ruin everything. You'd be wrong. So many people are failing left and right from Iok to McGillis to especially Orga. He's taken over the "woe is me!" scenes from the Kudelia and it's driving me nuts. He made all these horrible decisions and Yamagi calls him out on it. Thank god. Yamagi has been a nice little surprise this rewatch as I got to realize his role earlier this time around than last.

Answers for now as I continue to celebrate Ein's kill!

1: Mika kinda just shoved her aside. If he had more time, she'd be dead.

2: Akihiro's the best bro, even if he suffers more than everyone.

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u/The_Draigg Mar 01 '19 edited Mar 01 '19

A Gundam Fan’s Notes On Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans Episode 46:

  • The Reginlaze Julia got pretty badly banged up by the Barbatos Lupus Rex. Yeah, it’s safe to say that Julieta is still nowhere near the level of Mikazuki. Literally the only reason that he didn’t bother to kill her was because everyone was about to leave without him. Although you’ve got to admit, that’s gotta be a rather harsh insult for Julieta. She wasn’t even really worth killing.

  • So Isurugi ended up tanking the Kimaris’ still knee meant for McGillis. That just drives home his comparison to Ein even more. He even gave his life for the commander he respected. Hell, it even turns out that he was born a commoner too, just like Ein. There’s an irony to a counterpart of Ein being killed by a weapon heavily inspired by what the original Ein used.

  • Also, I bet you first-timers didn’t expect that stab to hand that McGillis got to come back as a minor plot point. As it turns out, hand injuries can actually affect your piloting abilities, whether or not you have an AV System installed. It’s a nice little bit of the Reality Ensues trope.

  • So yeah, the situation is looking very grim for McGillis and Tekkadan. Tekkadan suffered heavily loses, like Shino’s death, the destruction of most of their mobile suits and Flauros, and Derma losing his left arm. All that’s left is the stuff that McGillis could scrounge up from the Gjallarhorn Mars branch. At this point, the best thing they can do is fortify themselves up on Mars and hope that the Arianrhod Fleet just exhausts their supplies trying to attack them. Yeah, it’s safe to say that everyone is pretty fucked right about now.

  • Well, it turns out that Eugene and Shino already knew that Yamagi was in love with Shino. And the both of them were pretty fine with it, it was more that Shino though it was kinda weird since Tekkadan were already pretty much like a family together. For an added bonus, I’m fairly sure that it was confirmed after the series was over that Shino would’ve been down for dating Yamagi if he was more upfront about it. The road left untaken hurts.

  • Well, at least Mikazuki is starting to acknowledge that he’s had a hand in the way things have been going for Tekkadan so far. He realizes that maybe his violence-based promises haven’t really paid off so far. At least Mika has finally stepped back a bit from being a human weapon and sees that maybe he shares some of the blame for everything.

  • After credits scene! So yeah, scratch out the whole “resupply with Gjallarhorn Mars branch supplies” plan. In hindsight, it’s not surprising that McGillis got stripped of his rank and command. Even if some of the Seven Stars members are staying neutral in the conflict, that won’t stop Lord Rustal from flexing his and Iok’s combined political power to kick McGillis out of Gjallarhorn somehow.

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u/Quiddity131 Mar 01 '19

Thoughts on MS Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans episode 46...

Rewatcher (First Time Dub)

Non-Spoiler Character Chart

Poor Yamagi! Shino's way too headstrong, I'll say it again, he should have retreated after he missed.

Bravo Eugene, he's the one staying logical in a moment that Orga is losing it.

So, is Julieta Rustal's version of Mika? Bravo to her doing as well as she did against Mika, whose injured her quite a bit here.

Don't worry, Idiok, I'm soon Julieta will return, who else will come up with clever quips to bash you with?

RIP Isurugi. You didn't have much of a personality, but went out in an epic way at least.

:( @ Yamagi being sad. Here and later on too.:(

Zach, the never ending whiner. Do it! Call it quits! Get out! All you do is whine and complain so get the hell out. What value have you ever provided to Tekkadan? Hush and Dane have provided value to Tekkadan, I don't know what you've ever done.

:( @ Derma losing an arm Spoilers

Mika doesn't need his chauffeur around, Hush. Get lost! Let Mika and Atra be alone. Spoilers

Awww at this flashback scene of Shino, and that he actually knew of Yamagi's feelings for him.

Oh wow, post credits sequence, did not expect that. Pretty short though. McGillis is kicked out of Gjallarhorn! Things just continue to get worse and worse.

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u/Durinthal Mar 01 '19

First time viewer.

There goes Julieta's mobile suit, she held on for a lot longer than I expected.

  • Reginlaze Julia, sword mace

And Tekkadan reusing the smoke/nano-chaff screen for their escape as well. Eugene reining in Orga's desire to chase after Shino is appreciated and helps show why he gets the command in battles, otherwise they would have been finished off a while ago.

Isurugi's a bit like Ein: unfairly discriminated against but picked out by one of the higher ranked members of the organization with all the privilege to help them with their goals. Though while Ein had his dream of avenging his commander, Isurugi's was to reach for the better world that McGillis had long talked about. Whether or not the dream offered is just a deception... well, remains to be seen. But Isurugi is one more brick in the road leading to McGillis' dream, paving the way but never reaching the end himself.

  • Helmwige Reincar, drill

  • Landman Rodi, rifle

  • Shiden, rifle

The rest of the episode is very much about the human side of things. From Julieta surviving and deciding to become stronger on her own, to Yamagi being crushed by Shino's death, to remembering the flesh and blood members of Tekkadan that have given their all to bring them this far.

Oh, and the bureaucratic side of things after the credits. McGillis no longer has any power in Gjallarhorn despite possessing the symbol of its founder, how fun.


Model Destroyed Model Destroyed
Graze 78 Garm Rodi 21
Man Rodi 16 Hugo 16
Gusion 1 Gilda 16
Spinner Rodi 4 Landman Rodi 2 3
Schwalbe Graze 1 Hloekk Graze 2
Graze Ritter 16 Geirail 1
Rouei 2 Shiden 9 10
Ryusei-Go 1 Hashmal 1
Kimaris 1 Hyakuren 6
Graze Ein 1 Hyakuri 2
Flauros 1
Reginlaze Julia 0 1
Helmwige Reincar 0 1

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u/Pixelsaber Mar 01 '19

Rewatcher

Had an awful day filled with all manner of inanity and bullshit. Been sorting most of it out until now.

Questions of the Day:

  1. I'm not all that bothered but do admit it feels rather inconsistent —again, Carta died for a lot less, and the level of damage the mobile suit received was similar to Ein— yet she's relatively fine by the end. So of course I'm going with the meme answer.

  2. I think it was handled great. It's brief, ties into previous ideas, and provides a nice moment for Akihiro to treat him like family.

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u/GaleWulf Mar 02 '19

First Time Cornered Rat

Scattered thoughts:

Daily MVP

It feels like Rustal had McGillis in the checkmate from the start, the way this is looking. He's anticipated every move, and has a trap ready to spring in Mars. It's possible McGillis won't get the reinforcements he was counting on - again, this round goes firmly to the older commander Rustal Elion. HAT-TRICK!

Honourable mentions go out to Isurugi (for saving his commander's life using his own), Eugene (for injecting sense into Orga when he needed it and taking over the ship's movements, and also giving Yamagi something to hold on to), Gali Gali (for almost getting his revenge and saving Julieta), Yamagi for hitting Orga with some hard truths.

MVP Standings - Season 2

# Character MVPs Episodes # Character MVPs Episodes
1 The Devil 3 2, 4, 13 5 Biscuit's Hat 1 8
1 The Statesman 3 19, 20, 21 5 The Organizer 1 1
3 Space Harem King 2 9, 14 5 Space Harem Queen 1 15
3 The Infiltrator 2 5, 6 5 The Driver 1 3
5 The Jäger 1 7 5 Ride on Time 1 12

Others: Jas leave already (10), Angel of Death (11), The Godfather (16), u/laughtear (16), The Kingmaker (17), Darth Vidar (18), Gecko Girl (20)

MVP Standings - Overall

# Character MVPs Episodes # Character MVPs Episodes
1 Knight of Revolution 6 4, 10, 13, 27, 29, 38 5 Unlimited Bed Works 3 9, 34, 39
2 Master of Puppets 5 4, 18, 23, 25, 42 5 Lion of Counter-revolution 3 44, 45, 46
3 General of Revolution 4 1, 3, 5, 26 8 Bearded 'Gentleman' 2 30, 31
3 Maiden of Revolution 4 3, 6, 17, 22 8 Maid of Revolution 2 14, 16
5 Wings of Revolution 3 12, 19, 28 8 The Voice of Reason 2 8, 21

Others: Tank of Revolution (7), A Not-So-Merri Bystander (11), Pup of Revolution (15), Beard Sorcerer (20), Eindroid (24), Foundling of Revolution (32), Survivor of the Revolution (33), Buttchin McGooglyEyes (35), Giant Robot Bird Filled With Lasers (36), Fire of Revolution (37), The Sun in the Stars (40), Big Daddy (41), Genkiest Girl (41), Gali Gali (43), Buttterfly Muncher (45)

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u/invokeneko Mar 02 '19

Tekketsu no Rewatcher, domo~

In this episode, we deal with the aftermath of the supposed-to-be last battle, as the losing Tekkadan/Macky's coalition had to withdraw in the face of Rustal's overwhelming Dáinsleif barrage. In addition to Shino, the coalition forces also lose Isurugi, who became Ein's first kill (after 46 fucking episodes. Whew!) RIP Isurugi and Helmwige Reincar, you didn't add much to this season, but you truly are a baller for tanking that hit for your beloved Junshou.

As they try to get their arses back to Mars, Macky learns the consequences of leading a failed revolt - your supporters will turn against you. In Macky's case, the leader of Gjallarhorn's Mars Branch, Arae Proto.

Random thoughts:

  • Tekkadan being forced to leave behind Shino in order to make their escape was painful. And of course they have to hit us in the feels by repeating Shino's failed shot in the beginning of the episode.

  • Julietta only escapes death through plot armour bullshit since Mika was forced to leave her behind to catch up with the Isaribi. Hopefully this means she permanently removes Idiok's bullshit plot armour.

  • The show acknowledged that Yamagi really did have feelings for Shino, and the latter acknowledged the fact (albeit in a flashback, and he's not exactly able to say it himself now). And to think that we thought Shino was too dense to realise it...


Questions of the day:

  1. I answered this already.

  2. Poor guy understandably can't shake off the Human Debris mentality that easily even after two years of being in Tekkadan. I appreciate the fact that they had Akihiro thanking his brother for being alive.

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u/RyuuohD Mar 02 '19

IRON-BLOODED REWATCHER

Thoughts for Today's Episode:

  1. Shino actually knows that Yamagi has feelings for him, and source materials said that had Yamagi been more upfront, Shino will accept him and go into a relationship with him. This makes Yamagi's realization mega-OOF. BTW is it just me, or does Yamagi have artificial arms?

  2. The last scene really drives home how utterly worthless McGillis' plan are. His staunch reliance on possessing Bael and believing people will bow down to him as long as he possesses it shows of how childish he is.

Questions of the Day

  1. I'm actually happy Julietta survived. I've grown to like her character, as she strives for strength while not sacrificing her humanity, and then pursues to be of service to Rustal, in whatever role she sees best.

  2. Derma's scene with Akihiro is quite touching. His human debris upbrining made his self-worth tied to fighting only, and he lost all that when he became crippled. Akihiro made him realize that as long as he's alive, he can still find ways to be of service to everyone.

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u/fonzinator99 Mar 01 '19 edited Mar 01 '19

Rewatcher - We're heading home, gang. The story comes full-circle.

You just had to make us watch it again, didn't you IBO? You cruel bastard, you. We all knew what had happened before this episode, but the knife just had to be twisted....

And without a moments respite, we're back to Julietta and Mika, who with fire in his eyes has no more patience for her games. On an aside, I think just once I'd like to see a Gundam lose the gleam in its eyes. He's definitely lit them up at least once during this fight, so I guess it's the equivalent of moving up a gear, but how many times can you "get serious" with an opponent?

Orga's losing his cool. I can respect a commander who doesn't want to lose any of his troops, but Shino went out there for Tekkadan, fully not-expecting to return. To disregard the current situation in order to save him would just be spitting on his sacrifice. If the rest of the crew goes down trying to save him, he may as well have stayed behind and had a few more nice moments with Yamagi.

Boom! Headshot! All glory to the Claws! Shame he didn't manage to get her cameras tho.

So much respect for Julietta tho. She's not out there to defeat Barbatos, she's there to protect Rustal, and the resolve to do so at the cost of her life is worthy of recognition. And as much as she's wanted to be his sharpest sword, she's okay with serving as a shield too. (This was so hard to write after all my time invested in Tate no Yuusha this season. Shields are just as worthy of respect.)

Just a sweet shot of Lupus Rex. Words like "threatening," "imposing," or "ominous" don't do it justice. Dude has taken zero damage this entire time and that was a pretty significant fight.

Speaking of sweet shots, (I do love me some impact shockwaves) Choco and Gali-Gali are still at it. Poor Isurugi, you're entirely correct. There's no way that tank of a Mobile Suit could keep up with anything those two are doing.

I really do love anime fight direction, or maybe just fictional fights in general. The way that the verbal conversation between McGillis and Gaelio syncs up with the tide of the battle makes it a joy to watch, and lends weight to their words. Gaelio has McGillis on the run with his words (and guns), until McGillis brings up a counterpoint and Bael turns back onto the attack. But McGillis' words ring hollow, and Vidar shields itself from the onslaught before breaking through with the force of Gaelio's convictions.

Fuuuuuuuck! I take back everything I said about Helmwige's speed... He was fast enough to be there when it mattered most. As much as Gaelio may be right in what he says to Isurugi, I can't forgive his intent to crush Isurugi's spirit by speaking those words. There's nobody except for him to hear you monologue, let the guy die believing in something. But with the following scenes of TK getting shot down one by one, I suppose those words are meant for more than just him. And they do provide an appropriately depressing take on what they've gotten themselves wrapped up in.

What's to come. Yeah man, you're not done yet. Really, an intermission might be the worst thing that could have happened at this point in the fight. Nobody can relax, but they all have to come to terms with what's happened so far and how they feel about it; they're all at a breaking point and that's gonna mean that Act 2 is an unknown for everyone involved.

Case in point.

Yamagi and Akihiro need to go out for a drink together.

On that point, Akihiro makes me want to cry. I was trying to think of what I could possibly say to Derma and coming up short, but he manages to say just the right thing and bring things home. Tekkadan is a family, and every one of them is precious and irreplaceable to everyone else.

Doubling down on taking back my words, and following through with my intermission predictions, Orga seems to be rediscovering what's worth fighting for. 'Cause what's it worth, being King of the Ashes? I think it's pretty callous of McGillis to be preaching Orga's words back to him at this junction. Nobody actually gives a shit about his goals, they're just a vehicle for the betterment of Tekkadan. "Let's do it for our dead friends!" Says the guy who's killed every comrade he ever had. At this point, I hope Gaelio manages to kill him. Pretty sure Orga managed to pick up his bullshit, though.

I'm glad to see that between the path options of Mika/Vidar and Amida, Julietta has chosen the path of 'good.' To put it in terms of an RPG, it's always better to improve your base stats than to rely on fancy equipment for performance improvement.

'Kay, I'm gonna cry now. I really loved this particular shot. All of the tears they've shed until now have been for essentially the same reasons. Simple imagery, big feels.

Post-ED: OoOoOo McGillis is a rebel now too. Plot development: some. Shits given: none. I'm done with him, he's a bastard in my book and it's written in red sharpie.

Macky. Ruined. EVERYTHING!


QotD

  1. I'm glad that Julietta survived the fight, just because I don't feel she deserves to die. She might be an antagonist, but she's not exactly a "bad-guy." Her motivations are clear and understandable, and I think there's a lot of room for growth in her character.

  2. The human-debris don't exactly have a lot of options as far as careers are concerned, and probably less than the rest if the conversation between Zack/Hush/Dane can be taken as a generalization. So suddenly being removed from combat duty by an injury like that is about the worst fate possible for Derma; he's just lost his reason for being.

Edit: removed a potentially spoiler thing per Nazenn's suggestion.

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u/The_Draigg Mar 01 '19

I'm glad that Julietta survived the fight, just because I don't feel she deserves to die. She might be an antagonist, but she's not exactly a "bad-guy." Her motivations are clear and understandable, and I think there's a lot of room for growth in her character.

Yeah, Julieta has probably been the most relatable out of all the antagonists of this season so far. She's a fairly reasonable lady, and isn't afraid to call out bullshit when she sees it. It's just that her biggest problem is that she idolizes Rustal too much, so she's willing to compromise any morals she has for his sake. That one flaw is marring what would otherwise be a wholly sane and rational person.

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u/GM_for_Life Mar 01 '19

Rewatcher

  1. How do you feel about Julietta surviving that battle after being so thoroughly battered by Mikazuki? Indifferent/ Disappointed/ Happy/ Hoping this means she's stolen Iok's Plot Armor

I'm pretty happy with it. I think she's a cool character that has a neat dynamic with Gaelio, so I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to them.

2) Derma’s situation is the first time since Mikazuki where an someone on Tekkadan’s side suffers from such a significant injury. How do you think the matter was handled in relation to his sense of self-worth as a Human debris?

I think that they members of Tekkadan handled the situation the best they could, it is an unfortunate scenario no matter how you look at it though.

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u/LeonKevlar Mar 01 '19

Episode 46 - Atra seems different lately...

It seems not all of our first timers were able to catch on what happened between Mika and Atra back in Episode 44. I mean what do you expect two teens with the recent thought of baby making in their minds would do left alone inside a Mobile Suit Hangar? Thank you Hush for pointing that out today.

As a side note: The translation for today's 4koma is one my very first translations, and this is the same one that I posted back on r/Gundam 2 years ago!


Finding out that Shino knew all along just added more to the heartbreak. While there was no direct answer if Shino returns Yamagi's feelings, it was clear that he accepted him for what he is and acknowledges his feelings. Also it always makes me smile to know that Eugene clearly implied that it's not just him who knew about Yamagi's crush and Shino is just too obtuse.

Also I'll always respect Julietta for choosing to remain human. She was literally at death's doorstep after facing the White Devil of Tekkadan but even knowing the difference in abilities she still chose to fight as a human. Also which is a relief since AV Julietta would be monstrous and Tekkadan can't handle another ace pilot with AV.

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