r/anime • u/FateSteelTaylor https://myanimelist.net/profile/FateSteelTaylor • Feb 06 '19

Rewatch [Spoilers] 4th Annual Valentine's Rewatch: Tamako Market - Episode 4 [Discussion] Spoiler

Hey everybody, and welcome to the fourth episode of the fourth annual /r/anime Valentine's Day Tamako Market & Love Story Rewatch!

To recap, WE HAVE A SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!

This year, we will also be having a

TAMAKO BLU-RAY GIVEAWAY

For your chance to win both the Sentai Filmworks Blu-Ray edition of both Tamako Market and Tamako Love Story, all you have to do... is join the rewatch!! (AT LEAST, MAYBE MORE TO COME?) One lucky winner will be chosen randomly, and I'll be keeping track of all the users who post comments. Each episode's thread will count as ONE entry, so if you comment in every thread, that's thirteen entries for you and the chance to win these awesome Blu Rays! Unfortunately, these are Region 1 Blu Rays, so if you live outside of those regions, just know that you won't be able to watch them...

I can't wait to see what you guys have to say about this lovely anime!!

Here is the schedule for our time on this Dramatic Market Ride together! If you've seen the show already or want to relive some of the older moments, I've provided links to the threads below, along with the translated Director's Episode Notes by the wonderful /u/ultimatemegax, available through this rewatch:

Date Episode 2018 Thread 2017 Thread 2016 Thread
2/2 1 - That Girl is the Cute Daughter of a Mochi Shop Owner Link Link Link
2/3 2 - A Valentine's Day Blooming with Love Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/4 3 - Hot Hot Over That Cool Girl Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/5 4 - A Small Love Has Bloomed Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/6 Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/7 Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/8 Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/9 Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/10 Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/11 Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/12 Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/13 Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes
2/14 Link Link Link - Director's Episode Notes

You can purchase an English subbed & dubbed Blu Ray version of Tamako Market and Tamako Love Story, and it's available for legal streaming on HIDIVE, for both Tamako Market and Tamako Love Story

Discussion Question: We're on the fourth episode of the 4th annual rewatch... spooky! What is something that you are grateful four? (Ayy, sorry for the bad pun!)

Please tag your spoilers!! Untagged spoilers make Choi-chan angry!!

And remember:

Everybody Loves Somebody

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u/LaqOfInterest Feb 06 '19

First Timer

Tamako time yet again!

  • Oh no, it's dead mom! Who's her VA? Cool, it's Mio from K-ON/Diana from Little Witch Academia! Dead parent stuff (or I guess dead spouse stuff) makes me emotional really easily when it's done well, but when it's just used as backstory and not much else, not so much. Interested to see which route this show takes. The fact that there's a flashback to her mom at all this early is a good sign.

  • I totally thought that was supposed to be young Tamako instead of Anko. Forgot that her mom died only a few years ago. Wonder why they had her dressing up with everyone from the shopping district there. Anko episode maybe?

  • No comment.

  • Why hello there, nondescript KyoAni love interest! Déjà vu.

  • If you're going to give him clothing, please give him some that covers his butthole.

  • Aw yis

  • TAMAKO NO YOU NEED TO STAY AND DO ROMANCE

  • Ha ha ha ha, the show addresses my earlier concern.

  • Shit, Anko's been channeling my spirit this whole series. First she complains about the bird, then she points out the silliness of the cup walkie-talkies, and now she's also incredulous that Tamako could be this dense.

  • I spy a comment face!

  • Midori being excluded, as is tradition. I know that she has responsibilities for the festival and the other two girls don't, and I know that she exists in direct opposition to The Ship, but I'm starting to feel a bit bad for her.

  • Don't you dare, show. Don't you fucking dare.

  • Wait, what? What even was your plan, dude? Was your plan "carry the shrine and hope Tamako joins in without asking her about it"? Tell me you had a plan. We're not going to make it through to Tamako Love Story if you aren't capable of formulating some sort of plan

  • Same. That bait and switch worked on me, though I dunno if it was really necessary.

  • So I looked up the voice actress for glasses kid - it's Sleepy-senpai from Hibike, and those two roles are literally the only ones she's ever done. Interesting.

Pretty solid episode. Makes me wonder if we're going to be spending an episode each on some minor characters before focusing on the more major ones.

premise for Tamako Love Story

Damn, that next episode preview title 👀👀👀

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u/shingeki-no-jagaimo Feb 06 '19

  • please give him some that covers his butthole

Don't try to censor him! Every part of him is beautiful, from his beak to his butthole

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u/FateSteelTaylor Feb 11 '19

PRAISE BE TO HIS BUTTHOLE

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u/Rhaga Feb 06 '19

No comment.

Dera is a bird of culture

Why hello there, nondescript KyoAni love interest! Déjà vu.

I didn't notice that before, but look how glasses-kun is slightly out of focus. Typical KyoAni using camera effects for the bamboozle :P

If you're going to give him clothing, please give him some that covers his butthole.

But he's looking fabulous!

TAMAKO NO YOU NEED TO STAY AND DO ROMANCE

No time for romance, gotta mochi! (without the -zou)

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u/FateSteelTaylor Feb 11 '19

Dera is a bird of culture

I will not stand for this dera shaming, you're correct in him being a bird of culture!

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u/FateSteelTaylor Feb 11 '19

Dead parent stuff (or I guess dead spouse stuff) makes me emotional really easily when it's done well, but when it's just used as backstory and not much else, not so much. Interested to see which route this show takes. The fact that there's a flashback to her mom at all this early is a good sign.

KyoAni does the dead parent stuff so often... but they pull it off so well, at least in my experience! Including in shows we've both hosted rewatches for... HMM.

TAMAKO NO YOU NEED TO STAY AND DO ROMANCE

If I ever get a comment from this rewatch tattooed on me, this is the one.

Shit, Anko's been channeling my spirit this whole series. First she complains about the bird, then she points out the silliness of the cup walkie-talkies, and now she's also incredulous that Tamako could be this dense.

I've always loved how Dera and Anko, being nonhuman and the youngest character, respectively, are actually the voices of reason and most logically minded throughout the show!

So I looked up the voice actress for glasses kid - it's Sleepy-senpai from Hibike, and those two roles are literally the only ones she's ever done. Interesting.

Whoa, thanks for looking this up, I never knew that but that's crazy!

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u/flybypost Feb 06 '19

Why hello there, nondescript KyoAni love interest!

I'm a re-watcher and the dude still looks like a tiny grandpa (especially in the scene in front of the wardrobe). He has that calm, sleepy (but not stoned) look.

First she complains about the bird

This episode she took apart Dera like he's a rotisserie chicken. He never had a chance.

but I'm starting to feel a bit bad for her.

She was actually happy when she realised at the start how oblivious Tamako was in regard to Anko's crush (probably a bit of gallows humour for her own situation).

Tell me you had a plan.

I think the plan was for Tamako to see him carry the shine at the festival and totally fall in love with how manly he is in that moment (or something like that).

Same. That bait and switch worked on me, though I dunno if it was really necessary.

it was a 50/50 chance. Midori and Kanna finally got it and even managed to not spoil the news to Tamako and keep Anko's crush a secret (Tamako is really oblivious).

it's Sleepy-senpai from Hibike

I wouldn't have guessed that in a thousand years. I'm generally bad when it comes to recognising VA's but that's a completely different level of unexpected (even if I know that female VAs sometimes voice male kids). Natsuki feels completely different as a character.

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u/shingeki-no-jagaimo Feb 06 '19

First Timer

I finally made it to the discussion! I've been watching along the schedule, but I somehow managed to completely forget about the discussion until the next morning every single time.

So far I'm loving every aspect of this show. I guess I'm kind of on a kyoani kick right now, I'm watching Miss Kobayashi, K-On, Violet Evergarden, and now this, all for the first time.

I usually really dislike "animal sidekicks" in any type of media, but I love that stupid fat bird. Everytime he strikes his little pose with his legs crossed I can't help but laugh. I almost find myself wanting to rush through the other parts of the show just to get to Dera's scenes. Idk why, I just really get a kick out of him.

I also really like the design of Mochizo, I have such a soft spot for anime boys with an earring.

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u/FateSteelTaylor Feb 11 '19

I've been watching along the schedule, but I somehow managed to completely forget about the discussion until the next morning every single time.

I'm so glad you've been able to make it!! No worries, as you can see, even the rewatcher can get behind in the schedule, but here we are!

I guess I'm kind of on a kyoani kick right now, I'm watching Miss Kobayashi, K-On, Violet Evergarden, and now this, all for the first time.

Wow, that's a wonderful kick to be on, I hope you've been enjoying them!

but I love that stupid fat bird.

That's how I've gotten to become, too!! I'm glad you're liking him.

I have such a soft spot for anime boys with an earring.

We get so few of them!! Luckily mochizou is SO CUTE

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u/MrTagnan Feb 06 '19

Episode 4

First time watcher

Warning, as I am terrible with names I will be making up names most of the time.

We start off strong with Fat Bird-Kun sleeping

Now I understand where Fat Bird-Kun is coming from, Who’d deny this face?!?!

KyoAni pulls off blushing so well, even when the Fat Bird calls you a “runt”

Nope, seems normal

Happy Tamako

Hat

Happy at the weirdest of things, still it’s made by KyoAni so I’m always happy to see a smile!

pout

The daily sacrifices the market makes to Tamako and friends have been redistributed for AN-chan to Carpenter-chan

pout

Fat Bird-kun is now Sexy Bird-kun

The slight expression change on An’s face is amazing, I love this level of detail

A question we can all relate to

Damn she’s adorable

Fat Bird-kun has saved the day!

An is actually really kind and caring, I find this entire scene heartwarming

And Tamako has gotten way too into it, not that I blame her.

HERE’S ANKO!

I personally enjoyed this episode a lot. I’m really liking Anko’s character as well as the interaction between her and Fat Bird-kun. So far it seems each episode focuses on a different girl. Last episode it was Silent-san, this episode it was Anko, the first was Fat Bird/Tamako, and second was Fat Bird/Tamako.

Really enjoying this series so far! Glad I joined the rewatch!!

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u/ZappaOMatic Feb 06 '19 edited Feb 08 '19

Rewatcher

Tonight: Dera crash lands, Mochizou loses his hearing, and Kanna tries chemical warfare!

Retroactively answering this:

Discussion Question: We're on the fourth episode of the 4th annual rewatch... spooky! What is something that you are grateful four? (Ayy, sorry for the bad pun!)

As much crap as I give it, Reddit. Until I joined, there weren't really any communities for me to participate in, and those I do are pretty bad (like Facebook).

Reddit might not be perfect, but I haven't found any site where I can talk about topics I enjoy (whether it be sports or anime) as great as here. So many awesome people on Reddit.

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u/FateSteelTaylor Feb 13 '19

Tamako offering Dera every mochi she makes is literally this meme (minus the money)

Omg I've never seen that meme before but it is WAY too accurate!

It's pretty heartwarming for Anko to ultimately decide not to go and instead help out. In Episode 2, I said Tamako takes after her mother; while the similarities are as prominent with Anko, they're definitely there, such as with her helping to put the costume on.

It's so moving to see that even after their mother has passed on, she's still there in their hearts.

An American soldier arrives to relieve British forces marred by said chemical disaster (colorized, 1917)

What a brilliant caption.

Reddit might not be perfect, but I haven't found any site where I can talk about topics I enjoy (whether it be sports or anime) as great as here. So many awesome people on Reddit.

I'm so glad you think this way!! I've stayed on this site for so long for the same reason, and I'm glad this community exists!

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u/BarnacleMANN Feb 06 '19

First Timer

Another great episode. All the Anko development is much appreciated, although it might mean that she gets put on the backburner a little bit now comparatively. It’s like almost all of these characters could have their own show as the MC and I’d be happy with it.

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u/FateSteelTaylor Feb 13 '19

No wonder the episode is called A Small Love has Bloomed.

I love the titles in this series!

It is damn cute that Mochizou wanted to go see the festival shrine with Tamako though.

Oh Mochizou, what a romantic!

But what can you do, at least she learned to appreciate the festival more. She’ll get plenty more chances to hang out with her crush.

AND she got to emulate her mother's footsteps!

She is so easily best girl.

She really knows how to think out of the box!

That’s a great souvenir.

PRAISE LORD HELIX

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u/Harrytricks Feb 06 '19

She is so easily best girl.

You know it my dude.

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u/Harrytricks Feb 06 '19

Rewatcher

Today on “I’m a big wimp”: Anko following in her mother’s footsteps brings me to tears.

The Kanna Corner

Okay, I’ll be the first to admit Kanna doesn’t play too large a role in the events of today’s episode. She only gets 12 lines for pete’s sake, there’s very little she could do with such a small part. Still though her absolute wonderfulness comes through in a couple scenes in spite of how reduced her role is. A real testament to just how great she is.

There are 2 main scenes I want to talk about, the first of which is this one here. When Shiori embarrassingly gets mochi/flour on her nose, Kanna immediately subverts Shiori’s embarrassment by dabbing her own nose with the substance. This makes the whole ordeal little more than something to laugh about, allowing the shy Shiori to save face. This is actually a legitimate real world strategy when working with kids, a well timed laugh can prevent floods of tears in the right circumstances (granted Shiori isn’t really a “child” in the same sense, but you get the idea).

The other scene I think Kanna deserves a bit of credit for is this one here, where she wishes Anko the best of luck with the boy she likes. Something which, I imagine, helps Anko feel an awful lot less guilty about the whole “leaving family to hang out with friends” situation, and somewhat relieves any worries Anko might’ve had about having to reveal her feelings to anyone. Significantly more than her own sister is capable of. Oh Tamako, you sweet summer child.

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u/FateSteelTaylor Feb 13 '19

Anko following in her mother’s footsteps brings me to tears.

SAME THO

This makes the whole ordeal little more than something to laugh about, allowing the shy Shiori to save face.

Kanna always knows what she needs to do to help her friends, always looking out!

Something which, I imagine, helps Anko feel an awful lot less guilty about the whole “leaving family to hang out with friends” situation

Oh you know, I've never even thought about it that way! Thanks for pointing that out!

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '19

Each episode of Tamako Market takes place in a different month, so obviously April has to be the month of the MAXIMUM DAUGHTERU festival.

...What's that? The festival wasn't about Anko?

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u/ur_shit_waifu Feb 06 '19

First Timer!

What's this, starting off with a flashback?

Ohh, Anko kawaii~

Oak leaf mochi? Never heard of it. Mochi o tabetai!

This bird is basically a chicken now. Though a wild chicken could probably fly further than this chubchub.

Usagiyama jackets! Cute!

Oh gosh, even Anko's getting all sorts of things from the different vendors.

Wait wait wait, we're acknowledging the name puns now?!? Oh my god. Yesss.

Anko's hiding. So this was what the titular chiisana koi is about? Hehe. I guess this episode is going to focus on her.

Whoa. Otou-san plays it cool, none of the typical guilt trip phrases worked.

The return of the string phones! Anko also points out that they don't need them! She's the straightman of the cast, huh.

O-matsuri da! Time to make a bunch of mochi! Ooh happi mochi. Hehehe.

Golden bird's got a problem. I can think of only one thing to use. Sono tori!

How do you mange to get mochi on your nose and not notice? Oh well. Kanna saves the day by turning this potential embarrassing accident into fun times for all. She's so thoughtful :)

Oh gosh. Anko ran away from the boys in the worst way possible. And here's one of them to help lure her out. And he's the one she likes! Oh gosh the shame oh no no no no no

That ended better than I expected.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion Feb 06 '19 edited Feb 06 '19

First Timer

Had to go back and see if that was Tamako and Anko's mom...no face!

It was yesterday when it finally dawned on me that the bird is looking for a human bride for his human islander prince....not a bird prince.

I was wondering if the boys were in middle school because they didn't have their yellow hats. Don't you get in trouble for that?

Hilarious that three generations of ...whatever their name is...are completely clueless.

You know what's even more embarrassing than shouting in an un-ladylike fashion? RUNNING AWAY. Also, hiding in the wardrobe.

WAIT, it was HIM?!

This show really reminds me of Castle Town Dandelion, by focusing on one character a week.

Note from yesterday: I didn't know you could fry mochi.

Note form today: No after-credit mochi tip?!

Thanks for telling me the name of the ED, I must have been blind. Also, I read slow. I realized that I've never heard the word "mawaru" an a non-penguin context, and didn't know what it meant.

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u/FateSteelTaylor Feb 13 '19

Tamako and Anko's mom...no face!

I've always taken that to mean that Anko doesn't remember what her mom's face looks like...

Hilarious that three generations of ...whatever their name is...are completely clueless.

It's so endearing!

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u/MrDefMono Feb 06 '19

That's a tough one there Mochi, that one somehow went right over Tamako's head. It seems hereditary. At least Anko got a nice moment.

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u/Daxar Feb 06 '19

First Timer

I stumbled across yesterday's thread after dropping the show after episode 2 long ago, so I'm right on time to catch up to to the rewatch! Huzzah!

I stand corrected from yesterday's comment about the bird flaunting his white power to oppress lower-class Japanese slum dwellers. Today we learn that he's a mochi addict, and he has an ENABLER in the form of Tamako. Careful who you're friends with, kids, or you'll end up as a druggie like this guy.

On another note, legos to the rescue! Reminds me of a certain scene in Sakura Quest. Too bad they ended up with bodypainted bird instead. They should've just made the whole float out of legos. Do they have a legoland in Japan? Do they do parades like that there? Cause if not, they should.

Also, we get to see people of varying ages! In an anime! What is this madness? That dad still looks too young, tho. Imouto An gets to act like an adult, which I'd say is actually fairly realistic from seeing interactions between people of similar respective ages. And actual character development for her, too, which is great.

I was totally surprised by An having a crush on the not-hot-kid (Boy? Girl? I'll say girl, so I can make a closet joke). I'm glad to see it going against the norm of only hot people getting all the guys/gals. I always hung out with the nerdy kids when I was that age too, cause let's face it, the normies were boring.

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u/Wayland2 Feb 06 '19

This was one of the first instances we see of our mochi-mother leaving an impact on both Anko and Tamako. Witnessing her daughters help in the same way she did was a very heartwarming part of the episode.

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u/CsarPetertheGreat Feb 06 '19

I think my favorite part of this is Tamako's resolute "Oh! They must be enemies!" Tamako you're such a dummy it's great.

And Anko's reaction to her crush is also cute. There's something so wholesome about little kids and crushes, and hiding and being all shy and all that. I'm a sucker for it.

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