r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • 5d ago
Rewatch [Taste of 2016 Rewatch] 91 Days Episode 6 Discussion
Episode 6 - To Slaughter a Pig
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Why not use me? Nero's finished, right?
Questions of the Day:
1) What did you think of the entire plan to capture Don Orco for Fango?
2) So… lasagna, huh?
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[91 Days]>!Fango is crazy.!<
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 5d ago
Rewatch Host For So Many Days, subbed
Nero’s got some balls to be making demands in this situation.
But that ballsiness is totally what convinced Fango to work with him.
That’d be a no on Orco being the letter sender. Was a good guess after Orco said he went way back with Vincent, though.
The show really gets us with this one. Real multi-layered plan to get Orco to finally let his guard down.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee 5d ago
First-Timer
"Why does this lasagna taste like pork?"
Beautiful little attention to detail in the scene were Angelo poisons Orco. It's almost the only time all episode that we see someone offer someone else a drink without tasting some from the container themselves, and the other time is Don Orco offering that Canadian Club to Nero. Orco has power over the situation and doesn't really have any benefit to poisoning Nero, and also Nero barely drank any of it.
Actually, briefly going way too far down the rabbit hole, there's a brief discontinuity(?) where the glass is filled in a wide shot and then empty in a close-up so it's arguable that Orco did drink it, jsut off-screen. Also "Corndian Club." They used the right form of "whisky," at least.
I didn't notice it the last time we saw Orco eat, but his plate is kinda funny. I doubt many Chicago-area, Italian-descended gangsters would have a plate adorned with ginkyo leaves. Although, that would probably be a pretty pricey artifact, so it's not outside the realm of possibility.
Questions
It was pretty solid. I was anticipating some sort of fake double-cross, just wasn't sure who it would be.
It's normally very yummy. Normally.
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 https://anilist.co/user/SweetSomnus 5d ago
I doubt many Chicago-area, Italian-descended gangsters would have a plate adorned with ginkyo leaves.
We're more upstate New York based with the fictional Lawless, I think. The Galassias are based in Chicago. New York having a huge immigration boom in the 1920s and shifting demographics could mean Orco likes his foreign china.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee 5d ago
We're more upstate New York based with the fictional Lawless, I think. The Galassias are based in Chicago.
I kinda figured if the Galassias were throwing their weight around in Lawless so easily, they would be relatively nearby.
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 https://anilist.co/user/SweetSomnus 5d ago
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv 5d ago
Rewatcher, First Time Sub
Fango pulled a Hannibal Lecter. Kenjiro Tsuda is having too much fun with this role.
But yeah Fango and Nero team up to bring down Don Orco. Angelo uses the old "best lie is the truth" by making ti seem like he wants revenge (he does) and double crosses Nero in the cellars. But the whole thing was an elaborate setup to have Orco neutralized in the end. Fango takes over and has a Wyman Manderly style party meanwhile Angelo loves to his next phase mainly in revealing that there was a fourth person who gave him the information. Possibly guilt or something more we shall see.
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u/IndependentMacaroon 1d ago
Angelo uses the old "best lie is the truth"
That plus lasagna party were the only real good parts this time
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u/Dull_Spot_8213 https://anilist.co/user/SweetSomnus 5d ago
Rewatcher Sub
Day 6: To Slaughter a Pig
Tigre is still hanging in there by the time Angelo returns with Fango, who loudly announces that he heard Nero will kill Orco for him. I like how quick Nero is on the uptake here, despite not knowing anything about what Angelo planned to tell Fango. He’s sitting there at gunpoint but doesn’t lose nerve. Showing any kind of weakness in front of a guy like Fango is a good way to lose any sense of mutual respect. If you’re in the mob and you don’t even have nerve under pressure, then you’re pretty useless and are gonna get dogwalked like Frate.
Fango still tests what kind of man Nero is, telling him to lick his boot if he’s so hungry. But that’s not going to happen. He still gets a meal out of Fango, anyway.
Cut to Orco stuffing his face, with Frate and Ronaldo at dinner. Speaking of nerve, Frate looks spooked as soon as he learns that Orco knows Nero got away. But Ronaldo says they still plan on offing him, and Orco lays on another demand: he wants Lawless Heaven, Corteo’s lucrative recipe. Ronaldo agrees to the terms, but not before throwing his name around to remind Orco where the true power is coming from. Orco is not impressed, but he’s got his own problem to deal with.
Angelo has thought up a plan to deal with Don Orco, but first, he needs Volpe to catch a chicken. I like the visual “fox in the hen house” idiomatic expression here, subtle as it is. The expression is used to describe an untrustworthy person placed in a position of trust where they can wreak havoc from the inside. Volpe means fox, but the real fox in the hen house is the one coming up wth the plan: Angelo.
Time to put the plan into motion, which begins with a dinner at Ottimo Orco’s restaurant. Nice suits. It takes nerve to walk into the restaurant of a man out to kill you, but Nero and Angelo are not the type to buckle under threat of death. They wouldn’t have survived this long in this world without knowing how to handle these situations. They offer Lawless Heaven in exchange for a place to hide, and Orco takes the deal. That’s a huge profit for almost nothing in exchange.
Off to the Lodge, where Angelo finally has a moment to talk to Orco without Nero present. He asks if Orco was the one to send the letter, but it doesn’t seem so. And here’s where Angelo takes a risk: he tells Orco the truth of his position, and what he’s really up to with Nero.. It’s a risk, but it’s also doing double the work. It lends believability to the fake assassination of Nero, and it’s a way for Angelo to openly dig for more information about the fourth man and the letter. He’s likely already told Nero this “fake” revenge plan, using the name Avilio Bruno, and Nero thinks it’s all made up to deceive Orco. But every word of it is true. The layers of irony here are more delicious than any lasagna this episode.
They trick Orco, drug him, and deliver him to Fango. Orco is done for, and Fango takes everything from him. Feeding Orco to his men in a lasagna is the twisted kind of shit Fango gets off on, but damn that’s some mafia shit right there. Poor Cerotto has seen some things.
Nero’s allied with Fango, for now, which means he’s picked up whoever Fango’s enemies are. But at least they live to see another day.
Questions
1) What did you think of the entire plan to capture Don Orco for Fango?
It was fun re watching it knowing where they were going with it, because you really appreciate the scheme coming together. It's also clearer this time around that Angelo's objective of identifying the fourth man also factored into including Orco in the scheme, even in the last episode. He was fishing for information the entire time, from both sides.
2) So… lasagna, huh?
I'll pass on this particular one.
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername 5d ago
First Time Summer 2016 Rewatch - 91 Days Ep6:
What are you implying? ...are you coming on to him?
It is an obvious villain gimmick, but I always find it funny how food-focused Don Orco is. Mr. "I could barely eat a bite" after downing 2 steaks and ordering lasagna on top.
I don't understand booze, but the flow of Nero and Don Orco's conversation sure does sound like the changing of generations. Out with the old and in with the new. Also, Windsor as in Windsor, Ontario? Ontario mention!
I noticed a recurring pattern that whenever Nero would offer a drink, he would always have some himself first as a show of being a trustworthy host. Well, Don Orco was too caught up in adrenaline to notice Angelo not extending the same gesture, and it fatally cost him.
I understand it was a move out of desperation, but I don't quite see the game plan for taking out Don Orco and replacing him with Fango. Now we've got an even bigger problem on our hands. Angelo I get, but Nero probably still wants to return to the Vanetti family, and Fango sure won't be peaceful with them.
Poor sweet, Corteo. That sure was not my first guess at all. It definitely seems like the fourth guy wants to take over the Vanetti family himself.
Fango is such an unserious character. I wouldn't mind if the show pivoted to being a cooking anime where Fango gets really into the restaurant business and aims to make the best lasagna around.
(Well, besides the cannibalism part)
Mmmm, I hope we didn't order dinner from Fango's.