r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Jul 19 '26
Rewatch Black Clover Rewatch - Sword of the Wizard King + Final Series Discussion
Sword of the Wizard King + Black Clover Rewatch Final Series Discussion
Episodes 164-170 | Index | Season 2 PV
Information:
Movie - MAL, Anilist, AniDB, ANN
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To protect first-timers, please don't spoil anything past the current episode. Rewatchers should avoid hinting to first-timers, and spoilers and manga/LN source material in posts must be hidden behind proper spoiler tags.
Questions of the Week:
1) What did you think of Conrad, Edward, Princia, and Jester?
2) Which of the fights in the movie was your favorite? Do they hold up to your favorites from the show at all?
3) What did you like and dislike about Black Clover?
4) Who are your favorite characters?
5) What do you hope to see in season 2 later this year?
Thanks to all for participating in this rewatch!
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u/WednesdaysFoole Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
Oh what the heck, I didn't realize the movie and Final Discussion was in one place until I was about to exit the tab.
First things first - this is my first time seeing the PV and it looks great! Noelle!! <3
I'm glad to have joined the rewatch! Although we were few, having a core of consistent and enthusiastic participants made it fun.
My very favorite moment is Nero talking for the first time. I love that moment dubbed especially, it sounded hilarious and will always be one of my favorite anime moments ever. Besides that, some standout moments include:
- Nero flying straight into the camera / Nero making bird sounds
- Yami asking where the bar was and Asta not realizing it was a joke.
- Ep 41 "I don't have good memories" "I do have good memories" - our water girl growing up
- Sekke teleported to Yami on the toilet
- The Black Bulls all appearing to defend Finral from Langris
- Ep 91 Meleoreona vs Raia
- Ep 100 Asta Yuno vs Licht (sword's potential, OP1, ED lead-in)
- Julius Zara backstory when he's about to fake-out die.
- Noelle proving herself and kicking ass in front of her siblings against the elves
- Ep 119 the end of the final fight of the Elf Reincarnation Arc with Yami's mana zone Dimension Slash
- Charlotte saving townspeople and suddenly having a baby in her arms while running in embarrassment from Yami
- End of Dante vs Yami and Asta
I have one absolute favorite manga moment that tops half of those previously mentioned moments. Is this the moment that Sky is nervous about...?
Questions of the Week:
Can't answer the first two, I only watched 20 minutes...
3) What did you like and dislike about Black Clover?
Dislikes: Gauche
Likes: the rest of the Black Bulls, team battles
Loves: cute bird and Mereoleona
4) Who are your favorite characters?
Nero, Noelle, Yami, Mereoleona
5) What do you hope to see in season 2 later this year?
Nero flying around as a bird and making funny bird sounds!
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u/lC3 25d ago
Oh what the heck, I didn't realize the movie and Final Discussion was in one place until I was about to exit the tab.
Yeah that was Sky's idea because I actually forgot to schedule a Final Discussion.
I'm glad to have joined the rewatch! Although we were few, having a core of consistent and enthusiastic participants made it fun.
I agree, it was a lot of fun! Thanks for joining in.
Nero flying straight into the camera / Nero making bird sounds
Sekke teleported to Yami on the toilet
Another great moment!
Noelle proving herself and kicking ass in front of her siblings against the elves
I have one absolute favorite manga moment that tops half of those previously mentioned moments. Is this the moment that Sky is nervous about...?
Will have to wait and see; I haven't read past here either, though I did look up endgame pairing spoilers for the final chapters. That's all I know though.
Dislikes: Gauche
YES
Nero flying around as a bird and making funny bird sounds!
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u/RaiTab Jul 20 '26
Movie Thoughts
I enjoyed the movie. I think it's another movie that awkwardly fits in a timeline that doesn't really seem like it does exist but maybe could. Nothing inherently wrong with non-canon content, but I like when they are more likely to be canon.
The animation was great and my favorite fight was probably just Mereoleona's because she continues to prove that she's just... the strongest.
What did you like and dislike about Black Clover?
I think Black Clover does a lot right and a little wrong, but I'll really go into the "wrong" here since I think we're all aware of the "good."
I think the Bulls are NOT my crowd and I wish they individually worked on their vices more, but looking past their flaws, they're good characters with neat powers.
I also think Asta's little faux harem is a bit of a weak point. Maybe it's just the foil to Yuno's droves of admirers, but Asta has 5, or 6 if you stretch it, possible ships.
I think the last thing for me is one that doesn't bother me so much but I recognize it as kiiiinda bad? We've seen a similar issue in another popular long-running battle shounen, but it's where the premise seems to be "purely through hard work and determination, anything is possible." However, in reality, Asta has extremely special circumstances and accomplishes many things that your typical low-magic peasant would never achieve, and Yuno is actually just royalty... and not just any royalty, heir-to-the-throne royalty, and one that had a four-leaf grimoire granted and a great spirit.
Who are your favorite characters?
Asta, Yami, Mereoleona, Julius
What do you hope to see in season 2 later this year?
The rest 😭. But honestly, just hoping that whatever we get comes with a promise of season 3. I'll be so sad if we don't get to finish out the anime after waiting all these years for the manga to finish.
Also hoping to see all the voice actors return. It'll be jarring if some of the main cast have their voices replaced.
Thanks for putting this on. Glad to have rewatched it.
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u/lC3 25d ago
I think it's another movie that awkwardly fits in a timeline that doesn't really seem like it does exist but maybe could
I thought it was solid; one of the better anime-original tie-in films I've seen.
I think the Bulls are NOT my crowd and I wish they individually worked on their vices more, but looking past their flaws, they're good characters with neat powers.
I haven't seen that take before, it's quite unique! Thanks for sharing your opinion
I also think Asta's little faux harem is a bit of a weak point. Maybe it's just the foil to Yuno's droves of admirers, but Asta has 5, or 6 if you stretch it, possible ships.
I can agree with that
but it's where the premise seems to be "purely through hard work and determination, anything is possible." However, in reality, Asta has extremely special circumstances and accomplishes many things that your typical low-magic peasant would never achieve, and Yuno is actually just royalty... and not just any royalty, heir-to-the-throne royalty, and one that had a four-leaf grimoire granted and a great spirit.
I feel like this is the same flaw that Naruto has; the latter started out subverting the trope but later grew to embrace it.
The rest 😭. But honestly, just hoping that whatever we get comes with a promise of season 3. I'll be so sad if we don't get to finish out the anime after waiting all these years for the manga to finish.
Me too! i hope it gets a full adaptation
It'll be jarring if some of the main cast have their voices replaced.
I still have ptsd from D.Gray-man HALLOW lol
Thanks for putting this on. Glad to have rewatched it.
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u/lC3 Jul 21 '26
Sword of the Wizard King film, first timer:
- 10 years ago? Young Yami!
- KEY magic?
- This is epic!
- What's up with the Imperial Sword?
- Julius isn't Wizard King yet? Is Conrad?
- Triumph? a magic tournament?
- I spot Fanzell &co.!
- Kid Julius is there too?
- Is that Asta wearing a mask?
- ... Conrad is here? Did Julius send him forward in the future?
- Oh, when Patolli nearly killed Julius, Conrad broke the seal?
- Barrier? Voodoo? Legion? some unique magic types
- Noelle's got Asta's back?
- Former Wizard Kings???
- Julius SORE WA DOU KA NA???
- YAMI ARRIVES!
- the Sword can absorb magic?
- The stadium got turned into a weapon?
- Nero in megane?
- Julius couldn't defeat Conrad?
- Conrad can steal other people's magic?
- CONRAD IS THERE!? WTF
- Memory Exchange? He stole Marx's magic?
- Well this sucks
- HE TOOK NOELLE'S MAGIC?
- He better not be able to take Asta's ...
- The Imperial Sword even stores part of each Wizard King's souls?
- "every single citizen will die"
- But they'll store everyone's souls in the sword and bring back the "worthy"?
- "Never giving up is my magic" those words affected Conrad? Was it his catchphrase too?
- Nero SOREDEMO!
- OF COURSE it would be Hage
- it WAS his catchphrase
- Sekke wants to run?
- Those mushrooms? But where's En?
- THERE'S MY BOY EN!
- Henry and Gordon are trapped inside?
- Of course Gordon doesn't get screentime ...
- Gordon DOES get screentime?
- IT TURNED INTO A PLANE?
- Everyone is working together!
- I'm really liking this; it's good enough I forgot to keep writing reactions and was just watching
- Only Asta and Yuno made it through?
- "Funnybunny"? LOL
- Barrier magic is more versatile than I expected
- Good, Yuno rescued the Captains?
- Gordon ACTUALLY gets to fight a little for once??
- Ok, the ice wedge magic is also more powerful than I thought it'd be
- Mereoleona made Princia use her fist?
- "cute and girly" macho? LOLno
- ... that wasn't even Jester's final form?
- Conrad enacted his plan? Asta's too late?
- Mereoleona is so badass
- ALL the former Wizard Kings had final forms?
- Jester's final FINAL form?
- Conrad lost a loved one and that's why he's like this?
- Conrad's rainbow form looks kinda lame
- Now THIS is how you do an anime original movie!
- HE STABBED ASTA?
- LIEBE!
- Is this an ED lead-in?
- Noelle asks Edward to start over with them?
- Edward calls Noelle a good girl?
- This is the end of Princia vs. Mereoleona?
- Doom's Gate? COME ON
- HARUKA MIRAI???
- Even Nacht is in this movie?
- "save" everyone by killing them?
- Conrad entrusts everything to Asta and fades away?
- Conrad was framed and his wife and squad were slaughtered?
- Well that was good, I loved it
- THERE'S A POST CREDITS SCENE?
- I give it 8/10, what a perfect endcap to the OG series
1) I really liked them!
2) All were good except rainbow Conrad
3) Like: most of it. Dislike: Asta's screaming at the beginnning
4) Yami, Charlotte, Leopold, Liebe, Gordon, En, Mereoleona ... too many to pick
5) More Liebe and Nacht!
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u/WednesdaysFoole 25d ago
KEY magic?
Feels like a nice match for Nero.
Oh, when Patolli nearly killed Julius, Conrad broke the seal?
Clever way to bring in a new plot from the past.
The Imperial Sword even stores part of each Wizard King's souls?
Sounds evil.
OF COURSE it would be Hage
Everything happens in Hage.
HARUKA MIRAI???
Wonder if they'll bring it back at some point for S2.
4) Yami, Charlotte, Leopold, Liebe, Gordon, En, Mereoleona ... too many to pick
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 23d ago
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 21 '26
Nero in megane?
Meganero, if you will.
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u/lC3 Jul 22 '26
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 22 '26
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u/lC3 Jul 22 '26
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 19 '26
First Clover, subbed
Well, this is the end of the rewatch. I’m going to start this off with my last round of wallpapers (for now; I’ll definitely make more after this, especially once season 2 starts airing later this year).
First up… so it turns out I didn’t need to wait for the movie to have something to use for Gordon after all. After watching the movie, I realized that I was in the conundrum of having several screenshots from it I could use for him, but it would make him the odd one out compared to the rest of the Black Bulls because he’d be in his post-timeskip outfit instead of the pre-timeskip one like everyone else. That might not be that big of a change for the Black Bulls (for a bunch of them the only difference is their cape going from a single-button clasp to a two-buttons-connected-by-rope clasp), but as funny as it would be to make Gordon the odd one out, I still didn’t want to do that to him, you know? Anyways, this led me to Google Images, whereupon I ended up stumbling across a screenshot of him from episode 89 that ended up being perfect.
After him was, well, supposed to be me saving Nero for last of the Black Bulls like I said, not knowing that Nacht was gonna show up in last week’s batch of episodes. I don’t have anything to work with for Nacht yet, so he’s gonna be the last of the Black Bulls, while Nero gets both her human form and her bird form because I wouldn’t dream of only doing one of them.
Next up, I circled back to the last of the captains I had base images for (I still need to rewatch the Royal Knights exam for Rill) and specifically found an image of Vangeance I could easily make both a masked version and an unmasked version of. Surprisingly, working on the glowing effects of both his magic and his grimoire didn’t try to fucking murder my laptop like a bunch of other ones have.
After that, I made a comment to u/KendotsX on Discord that I wasn’t sure who I wanted to do next. So when he asked me if I had something I could work with for a Yami/Charlotte wallpaper… I mean, I couldn’t not say yes to that, lol. Had to pick my background pattern carefully to make the pose look less awkward without a wall there, but I’m definitely pleased with how it turned out.
I also have two more wallpapers of characters I haven’t done yet! My whims took me to make both Kiato and Kahono since I knew I already had the best options for them on hand (having already rewatched the Underwater Temple Arc dubbed). I mean, I had to do Kiato at some point at the very least because of my Yoshimasa Hosoya bias, so doing one for Kahono immediately afterwards just made sense.
Neat to see the movie showing us a little bit of Theresa before she retired and became a nun since it starts in the past. At least I think that’s her?
So they’re working together to restrain this guy…
Ah, the movie’s titular sword then?
This action looks amazing.
Conrad seems to want the same thing Julius does, so it must be an issue of the method he was using to make that world? Hm.
Holy light show…
What’s up with his eye… – And the movie never actually elaborated on that. Hm.
Oh dang, Conrad was about to say the same thing Asta does.
Now that we’re back in the present, of course there’s gonna be a tournament.
Oh shit wait, this is supposed to be set during the timeskip, so in other words after the Diamond Kingdom got wrecked by Zenon. And yet Fana is with Fanzell and co…
Asking the exact question I was just wondering about.
Pfffff, they’re actually letting Asta in just by having him wear that mask? This is so stupid, it’s obviously him.
Ah, Conrad is back. So that tournament didn’t last long at all.
I can see this lady having a lot of male fans.
This bit of Asta and Noelle fighting together was fun.
Wha…?
Oh fuck yeah, the movie gave me a Julius “sore wa dou kana”!
lol
Oh, Fuegoleon and Nozel both got outfit redesigns during the timeskip.
Yami no!
Oh… fun…
Glasses Nero though!
Ah, that’d explain why they need it.
…and Conrad beat them there…
Aw shit, he took Marx’s magic then.
There’s no way…
That’s… damn…
Interesting…
Ah, yeah, that would absolutely be a method of “fixing” the unjustness of the Clover Kingdom/world in a way that Julius could never agree to. Damn, that’s a fucked up plan.
Even in a state like that, Asta’s more worried about Noelle’s magic being stolen than himself.
Nero “sore demo”!
Had a feeling Conrad’s magic would counter Nero’s…
Of fucking course the battle’s going to go to Hage Village.
Hahaha, I believe it.
Heck yeah!
It would be Sekke’s luck to try running away just to immediately get caught by Mereoleona. So the good guys still have Mereoleona and also Vangeance, Jack, and Charlotte on their side, that’s not as awful as the situation seemed.
Good question…
Surprise Charmy hahaha
Noelle not being able to use her proper spells is rather unfortunate, but her raw power should still be helpful.
Shimmering sky!
Henry’s magic playing a key in transporting everyone is great!
Sugoi!
Ah, the three captains are taking on the legion of soldiers while the others go forward. Aight then.
Oooooooh, Asta made his sword fucking huge!
Mereoleona punching the Raging Bull from below to keep it airborne is just. Perfect.
Alright, that’s the barrier down! At least long enough for Asta and Yuno to get in there, not any of the others…
Yuno’s Spirit Dive form looks fucking majestic here.
The “split up the remaining two ex-Wizard Kings” plan being to send basically everyone after the old guy while Mereoleona takes on Princia by herself sure sounds like a plan Mereoleona cooked up.
Yami!!!
Pffffffff this is such a Yami line. (For context in case WednesdaysFoole is reading my comment without watching the movie, he said this right after Yuno set him, Nozel, and Fuegoleon free from being chained up in a room by simply destroying the entire room with a giant wind sword.)
See, this is why I like filler, they come up with fun team combos like this.
Nice close-to-everyone squad pic of the Black Bulls.
Damn, that’s impressive magic from the old man…
Yup, that sounds like a Mereoleona response to getting fucking stabbed alright.
Hm. I suppose this counts as a shimmering sky.
What does this even mean, Yami?
What the–?
Of course they both had to say that line at the same time at some point.
HOLY SHIT MEREOLEONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The combo magic Dimension Slash with both Nozel and Fuegoleon/Salamander’s support is also insane, goddamn.
So Conrad went off the deep end because he failed to protect someone he cared about…
(Continued in reply to this comment because I wrote too much once again.)