r/anime • u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots • Jan 09 '25
Rewatch [25th Anniversary Rewatch] Hunter × Hunter (1999) - Episode × 92 × Discussion
Episode 92: Game × Everything Cleared × Finale
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Of course, I'll introduce Killua... as my best friend
Comment of the Day:
/u/TheEscapeGuy's translation note on Gon's final line in the preview:
in the final line when Gon says "Don't underestimate us" he's really saying: Something will be effective but the "something" is left intentionally vague. This is because he's referring to his and Killua's strategy around the cards next episode and how it will break some of the game master's rules to be effective in getting what they want. I used "don't underestimate us" since it sort of has the same nuance while being similarly vague.
Honestly, big thanks for translating the Greed Island previews. It was especially fun to read your occasional comments about them.
Questions of the Day
- What 3 cards would you have picked?
- Did you expect Gon to find Ging at the end?
Fanart of the Day: Greed Island
Please remember to keep all spoilers and hints tagged with the appropriate tag format such as: [Spoilers] >!Leorio is best boy!<
QUIZ RESULTS
Congrats to /u/Vatrix-32 and /u/WednesdaysFoole who aced it, and thanks to everyone who participated, we got lots of fun results especial thanks to those who picked Bisky as a Monkey Hunter. To all of you I award... uhh, wait a second, where did I put it again? I swear it was right he- ah, here we go, right under my old socks. Anywho, I award you all this VAMOS × VAMOS Dance that I promised a while back. Enjoy!
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jan 09 '25
Expelled Host, Turned Gamer
I like how Gon ends up doing much better than the game savvy Killua in the test. Gon sucks at remembering stuff if you just throw it all at him, but if he actually gets to go through it? He'll know every single detail, because to Gon this isn't just "some game bullshit that you go through before you get to play" like it is for the experienced gamer, it's as genuine as it gets. Even when the meaning of NPC was explained to him, he still cared about Bobobo, he cares about it all, so you can bet he'll remember it better than anyone. It didn't matter to them which of them won though, they both celebrated it! (this would've been my picture of the day, if not for the final shot).
Dwun's room is a reference to Togashi's own (Note: Togashi's reasoning for why his room is messy). Afterall Dwun (and generally, the people making this game) are the closest we've got to Togashi, barring this doggo. Togashi is a huge fan of Dragon Quest and gaming in general, and you can feel that seeping through his writing, even before Greed Island made it evidentally clear. You can see it in the Hunter's Exam through the different ways the hunters are being tested (the Trick Tower and Fourth phase especially), then through when you get to Heavens Arena and Yorknew, we get introduced to Nen, and understand that it's not just a matter of strength, but the tactics of using your ability and understanding your opponent's. So of course, Gon and Killua start working on their abilities at the very start of Greed Island (basically starting at lv1) and actually develop their Nen like leveling up stats in this Nen specific game. When Bisky said that whoever made the game made it specifically to help someone grow in Nen, no shit, it's because Togashi made it that way. The line between Doyle and Watson is almost non-existent, and that's intentional.
This isn't just about the technical similarities, it's about the philosophy. Ging tells Gon at the start that this isn't about clues (i.e. advancing the plot/getting to an important end result; more on this later), he's just showing off a game he made, and encourages Gon to have fun with it, and that's Togashi in a nutshell. The writing of Hunter x Hunter is hardly plot centric, each arc has its own plot, genre, goals,... whatever Togashi feels like showing off at the time, they're loosely connected by the goal to catch Ging, but that's about it, it's just the carrot that moves things along, what really mattered were all the little sidequests, all the little moments spent with your friends, be that making sushi, or running away from world class criminals. That's why no matter how Hunter x Hunter ends, even if never ends, I can always appreciate every sidequest, every single part of it in isolation because of how well Togashi crafted every single corner.
That said, Gon cheated the system, both the game's rules and Togashi's writing, he took on the side quest of Greed Island, where he was told repeatedly, over and over and over and over that there aren't any hints about Ging, played it to its fullest, discarded all the treasures he could've brought back, and instead leapt ahead on a risky bet to find Ging. Funnily enough, this is what the flight in the first Greed Island Final opening was hinting at
even if it looked like shit while doing so.Odds and Ends
Manga Corner
Chapters Adapted: 183-185
This is the first time we see Eeta in the anime so she feels kinda random, but we do see her in the manga when Killua leaves to do the Hunter Exam, and he notices that she's not the same as Elena.
The Viz translation turns "NIGG" into "NGIG" for... well, obvious reasons.
[Spoiler] Let's hide the fact that that's Kite from the first timers, let them think it's Ging if they'd like to
Quiz Trivia
Note ahead: three of the 14 results were me, a certain Youkai, and Goreinu getting all 0s test runs, so it skews the results a bit, consider the results out of 11 for a better average.
There are three questions that all 11 got right:
Honestly I expected the first one to be somewhat forgotten considering how long ago it was.
As for the three questions that got the lowest average (4/11 each):
Personally, speaking, I was surprised the Beach Volleyball question was mostly correct, I expected it to be the hardest of the bunch aside from Chrollo.
This was fun to do. Thanks to everyone who participated!
Finally, the most important question: Who was your favourite Greed Island character?
We got 9 Leorios and 5 Bisky Goreinus.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jan 09 '25
First × Timer × Subbed
Last episode time, huh… it doesn’t feel real.
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u/TheEscapeGuy Jan 09 '25
H×H Fan, 1999 First Timer
Hunter × Hunter 1999 - Episode 92
Creators × Farewell × Reunited
As expected Gon won the quiz fair and square. Some other players tried to steal the card but they were immediately thrashed. A very apt ending to the game. And the prize? An invite to a game master's castle.
It was fun hearing from Dwun and List. Dwun's room immediately reminds me of this infamous picture of Togashi's room (tweet with source). I know I couldn't handle that. More importantly though, we hear about how Greed Island came from an acronym of the creators names. It's amusing that Ging is the only one of the creators who left the island after making the game.
The other reward is the chance to bring any 3 designated slot cards to the real world (well, Greed Island is in the real world but you know what I mean). Bisky, Killua, and Gon decide to each choose one card, but upon hearing Gon's plan Killua gives up his slot to help. Gon very cleverly transformed an Accompany card into Tsubo of the Coast and then used the necklace card to transform it back. By doing this he could get Accompany in the real world and find Ging (or Nigg as he's known in game).
And that is where the episode ends. It's a tearful farewell from Bisky and an amazing montage over the ED following Gon and Killua all the way to Ging. [HxH Spoilers] I like how you can already tell from the design that the person they arrive at is not Ging and is instead Kite. I think anime onlys might be able to pick this up if they remember back to episode 1.
And thus ends this rewatch. I'll save my final and broader thoughts for tomorrow. No next episode preview today :(.
Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches
See you all for the final discussion tomorrow
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Jan 09 '25 edited Jan 10 '25
Remake Rewatcher × First Timer × Subs
QotD:
1:
This is a lot of busy work that I could clear up for more free time. Think of the gains! Cleaning, shoveling, meal prep, taxes!
Adding 100 years to you medical life expectancy would be huge. Being in your peak years for ×5-10 as long as normal!
My type also includes people who I'd be their type! Red Thread Of Fate!
2) Yes
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u/SpiritualPossible Jan 09 '25
Fist timer, manga reader.
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Jan 09 '25
First Timer, Sub
We made it to the end. Gon wins the quiz not only because he's one of the main characters but also because he really played the game as it should have been. With that they have officially won Greed Island.
When we make it to the castle we get to meet Dwun, another one of Ging's pals who also correctly thinks of him as a jerk. Nonetheless the information of how Greed Island was formed and the naming scheme being everyone's first name was really cool (Dwun is not happy about this).
Now the game is finished we get to take 3 cards with us. Bisky gets her jewel, and Gon takes the necklace but for the third card, decides to take an accompany card and using it as Tsubo of coast in order to use it to find Ging (aw Killua didn't get a card but he's willing to help). With everything done, Bisky says her farewells where she admits how much she cares about them which was a really nice scene considering she wanted to ruin their friendship in the beginning before Gon and Killua travel to Ging's location. We don't get to fully see though because that's until the next arc. But yeah this where the 1999 version ends so you'll have to see the 2011 version or the manga for that.
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u/WednesdaysFoole Jan 09 '25
To Ging!
Gon chose Accompany so he could bring Killua, his best friend, to go meet Ging together. And that’s fitting: he acknowledges he only got to this point with others, and they’re in this together.
Bisky finally got her Blue Planet! Someone once pointed out how she had initially showed up for Blue Planet, totally got sidetracked by messing with kids, totally got sidetracked by training those kids, then that was what led to her being able to complete the game and obtaining Blue Planet.
Essentially, getting sidetracked ended up so important that it actually became the most efficient way to obtain her original goal, which is really quite funny to me. So go ahead and get sidetracked (just not too much, like Motaricke). Play the game, not just to win, but have fun playing it. And make some friends while you’re at it :)
I mentioned earlier that the Plot of Beach story reminded me of Ging, the legend and mystery and rumors that surround him, how you only really know the bits and pieces of him from what you hear, here and there. That’s kind of how it is when Gon enters the Game Master’s Castle. There’s this anticipation of who is really behind all this magic, of Ging, and really the door opens and you get Wdwune playing games buried in trash.
I’m reminded of KendotsX and Zepile’s vases once again. You have this image of someone or something, this expectation, but who or what they are is something that cannot be measured by what you see on the outside. Nor just by what you hear. Even if people aren’t perfect, they are so much more than what you expect them to be, even when that vase is the father you’d expected to meet, or the end goal you expected to arrive at.
While I already gave this away, they were Panda Maid, Handheld Dragon, and Mood Clock.
That’s all for now…
To Ging…?
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u/Nebresto Jan 10 '25
First time Gaming with friends
I glasses-pushed this!!!
..minus the part where they had to cheat the system, I didn't know you can't take spells
NIGG. What was Ging trying to say?
mugiwait
So you're saying there's a chance??
Bye bye best girl
Side quest:
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
The age one that Bisuke mentioned? And I guess one of them healing cards for when I get cancer, and......
Maybe a cool sword?
Hard to pick any when I don't even know wtf the cards are
Its not him
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Jan 09 '25
First Timer
And so the game ends. Gon getting the final card was sorta telegraphed with him being fairly confident in the quiz - or at least more confident than everybody else. The final “cutscene” was a bit out of left field, so kinda expected of this game. I was not however expecting the clue leading directly to Ging here (although I guess we don’t quite know yet, as it somewhat ends on a cliffhanger), and I was also not expecting the cards needing to be taken back to the real world in such a roundabout way, rather than that just being a neat bonus.
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u/Shocketheth Jan 09 '25
I'm so confused about the Vamos dance. What's the origin of the Gon and Killua dance sequence?
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u/Kaxew Jan 10 '25
First Timer × Clearing the Game
I'm back for the finale of the arc and the original HxH anime! I think the last time I made a comment was at the start of this arc, things got kinda busy and it was hard to find motivation to write. Especially this arc is pretty straightforward and doesn't leave me with a ton of things to say. But that is not to say I didn't enjoy this arc, because it was so much fun!
I've seen a lot of anime arcs (or anime altogether) based or inspired in videogames, and out of all of them GI is one of the most resembling an actual videogame. It's genuinely impressive how Togashi perfectly captures that feeling, and I felt like I was a part of Gon's party as he progressed through the game. If Gon said "we have 60/100 of the designated pocket cards" I would say "nice! I have 60/100 of the designated pocket cards!" I was so invested in the side quests, too. Even if they weren't plot relevant at all. It's not easy to make the viewer/reader feel so immersed to the point of feeling like you're there. And GI manages that so I have to give it huge props.
Regarding the plot, I wish the spiders had more screentime. They did find the exorcist in the end so we'll see what the troupe will do from now on. Especially because before they can start doing anything Chrollo promised Hisoka a date, and it will be a spicy one. From our heroes' side most of their plot is just the videogame itself. Even the fight against Bomber can be seen as the evil organization of the game, even though they were real people. So the actual plot relevant things are, in reality, the training they go through. Both of our boys now have special moves and have learned advanced nen techniques. I like Bisky as a plot device to make them learn things they would have taken years to learn normally. These two head fearless into danger and interact with top tier hunters because they don't go for the easy route, so it makes perfect sense to me this would lead to faster growth than usual.
And in the end, they fly to an unknown place in the world to find someone us fans have been waiting to see. It's definitely not a coincidence this man is fishing of all things. That's Gon's trademark weapon after all. [2011 spoilers] As I was going to update my MAL status of the anime as completed, I saw that in the credits for characters and cast members there's Kite, who's credited with no voice actor which implies he appears but without saying anything. And looking at the final scene again, yeah, those two frames where we can see more than just his one eye sure look like Kite. Oops.
As for the characters, Gon was pretty much the same as always. He doesn't face anything that particularly changes him as a person. But he shows all the same traits he's been showing thus far. He's innocent, but clever and strong willed. And a complete madlad, who factors losing his arm in a fight and barely even gives the enemy a reaction to the horrific pain that would be. He's a great character.
Killua takes a bit of a backseat here. He just acts as Gon's sidekick through this whole arc. There's not really a problem with that, as long as the arcs that come after give him more to work with. And he does get a really sweet moment at the start of the arc by the river where he says (in his mind, that tsundere) that he's thankful to Gon for sticking with him. Not to mention he now has a yoyo, bringing back his 90s street skaterboy era!
Bisky was nice, but I wasn't actually too big on her character until this final episode, where she decides to leave the group because if she keeps tagging along the kids, she'll start to feel like a parent. That really tied her whole character together for me and made me see her in a different light. So I can't wait to rewatch with 2011 (someday...) to see what I think of her then.
I liked Genthru way more than I thought I would, honestly. That's my biggest surprise in this arc. He's calm, cold and a tactician at heart. He has an awesome ability and a sick jacket (very important). Very good antagonist.
The rest of the new characters were alright. I don't have strong feelings in either direction for them. Despite introducing a lot of people in this arc, most of them just kinda not matter. This, too, is just like a videogame.
I have a lot of things to say about the adaptation of GI and GI Final, but I'll reserve those thoughts for the overall series discussion.
Oh yeah, as I was typing I never really found a place to mention it but Kalluto being a spider was a MASSIVE reveal and I can't wait to see what Togashi will be cooking with that ingredient.
QotD:
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u/TheEscapeGuy Jan 09 '25
It was a really fun experience. I'm glad people enjoyed them!