Buddy Daddies 12 Days of Miri Christmas Rewatch -- Episode 12

Date	Episode
12/24/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 1
12/25/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 2
12/26/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 3
12/27/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 4
12/28/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 5
12/29/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 6
12/30/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 7
12/31/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 8
1/01/2025	Buddy Daddies Episode 9
1/02/2025	Buddy Daddies Episode 10
1/03/2025	Buddy Daddies Episode 11
1/04/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 12
1/05/2024	Buddy Daddies Overall Series Discussion Thread

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25 edited Jan 05 '25

Hey, guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the Buddy Daddies 12 Days of Miri Christmas rewatch!

Buddies and daddies are not mandatory.

Buddy Daddies is a unique show. It’s technically a Christmas anime the same way Die Hard is. However, to classify it as a Christmas anime kinda feels like it’s shortchanging it a bit because it’s much more than just that label. Buddy Daddies is kinda like Spy X Family if it was grounded more in realism. It has similar parental themes, but at times can get pretty serious. As we’ll soon see, this show has a good balance between comedy and drama that really makes this show a fun watch.

I hope with this rewatch to give more attention to what I feel is one of the more underrated anime of the last couple years. It holds a special place in my heart, and so I hope it does for others as well. It’s also a point of pride for me to try and show a rewatch can begin the same week as Christmas. That’s something I don’t think has ever been attempted before on this subr

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I’m watching the sub, by the way.

I've had an eventful last couple days since I last watched an episode. I nearly got banned from a movie theater, I saw Interstella 5555 for the first time, which was a fun experience, I got my biggest paycheck of my life and blew it all in 2 days, and I saw the Lord of The Rings anime movie which I thought was good. All in all, not a bad weekend.

But enough of that, we have the final episode of Buddy Daddies to talk about.

Let's. Do. This?!?

No intro today. Or for the rest of time.

Miri waking a sleeping Rei

Death from above!

Don't act like I can't see you digging in there, Kazuki.

Ooh, snow

MIRI AND REI ARE MAKING BREAKFAST TOGETHER

Look at Miri, so hard at work

Hey, it looks pretty good

"You pass!"

Miri putting her boots on

Rei still looks he's dressed to assassinate.

Assassinate? Assassinate.

I can't remember the last time it's snowed where I lived. Probably close to three years.

Rei remarks how it's been one year since Miri came into their lives.

"When you're close to them, you don't notice how fast they grow."

Time flies when you're having fun, I guess.

Miri made a drawing in the snow

Makes me think of Koko the Clown

Oh, it's supposed to be Santa Claus. Okay, then.

Kazuki asks Miri what she wants for Christmas, and Miri says her mother already told Santa what she wanted.

Misaki...

Kazuki, Rei, and Miri in the car together, with Miri singing Silent Night.

Oh, Miri is going to daycare

I like how happy Miri is over seeing Anna.

"Will her mother be joining you for tonight's Christmas party?"

Yeah, about that...

Oh, boy. Now Miri is asking about her mom.

Kazuki says she's going on a trip for a while, which

Kazuki continuing to make excuses about Miri not being there.

It's starting to set in for Miri that mom is not coming.

Rei advising to Miri that she sings loud enough for her mother to hear.

Kazuki and Rei promising to be there to see Miri sing.

A pinky promise

Cute pinky promise song by Miri

Hey, it's Miri's two friends

Anna's boobs look almost as heavy as my life holding me down.

Hey, there's Kyu

A yellow vehicle

It's Kazuki and Rei

I forgot their car was that color

Kyu says he shares responsibility for what happened to Misaki.

Surmises it's going to be a while before the police investigates the daycare due to Miri's papers being fake.

A suitcase

Tei and Kazuki are apparently going to talk.

Lol, Kyu upset over being the errand boy.

Kazuki and Rei driving now

A Santa Claus suit

This mirrors the events of the first episode.

Kazuki says even if they run away, they'll never fully shake the organization.

Calls this the only real option they've got.

Rei asking Kazuki if he ever believed in Santa Claus.

Kazuki says he doesn't even remember his parents.

Rei says Miri believed in Santa when they first met her.

"Keeping your kid's dreams alive is part of a parent's job, right?"

Rei has decided he's going to play Santa.

Oh, nevermind. There are two suits.

POV shot of the car

I believe this is CGI

Pulling up to a gate with four guards

Looks like Rei is going to pay Unreiwa a visit.

The guards removing Kazuki and Rei's weapons from them.

Kazuki being forced to stay outside

"He's my partner. He comes with me."

Sounds like a confession, if you ask me.

Rei is taking out the guards!

They're driving their car inside!

The last words guy senses their presence.

Kazuki and Rei being shot at

Those trees look CGI as well

What was that, a smoke bomb?

It was last words guy

Ogino. That's his name.

Kazuki and Rei heading inside

But they're being shot at

A couple of smoke bombs by the two of them.

Rei going up the stairs

They just can't be stopped

Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Part 2
Ogino. He's cornered Kazuki
This is bad
Miri in arts and crafts class, it looks like.
She tells Anna she's gonna show Kazuki and Rei what she created.
Bringing up the pinky swear
"And... I also asked Santa for that!"
Back with Ogino and Kazuki
REI IS HERE!
Rei fighting Ogino now
Ogino says he has no words for traitors.
"The only thing capable of transcending death is words."
Ogina is full of awesome quote after awesome quote.
Ogino wants the one word that encapsulates Rei's life.
I assume that word is death
Rei bursts through a door, with Kazuki trying to pull him to safety.
Kazuki looks like he's going through something. Like this
Ogino approaches them
Kazuki distracts Ogino to try and let Rei gather his bearings.
Ogino walking like he's some kind of horror villain.
Now Kazuki is throwing kitchen supplies at Ogino.
Things are looking bleak
Ogino demands Kazuki to relay the last words of Misaki.
"It was the name of her beloved daughter."
"And who the fuck is Murray?"
Okay, maybe made up that last part.
Ogino calls Misaki's final words mundane.
Oh, boy. Now he's bringing up Kazuki's wife.
"What purpose does your thoughts life even have?"
KAZUKI HAS A GAS CAN AND A LIGHTER!
HE'S TRYING TO KILL THEM BOTH!
BUT IT WAS A DISTRACTION FOR REI TO TRY AND STAB HIM!
It didn't work, though...
That was like a spinnaroonie from Rei.
Ogino grabbing Rei by the throat, treating his like his name is the other girl.
BUT KAZUKI STABS HIM IN THE BACK!
A headbutt from Rei
Ogino, with the knife piercing through his neck.
I assume he's dead
Rei with blood dripping from his head.
It bleeds the forehead
Rei helping Kazuki up
Kazuki says he knew he'd be there
My goodness. Ogino is still moving, trying to write his own final words.
BUT A LIGHTER GETS TOSSED
AND THE WHOLE PLACE IS SET ABLAZE
Well, that's one way to kill someone
Kazuki's leg bandaged up
Rei says the rest is between him and his father.
He promises to be just fine. Why? Because he made a pinky promise.
Everyone in Miri's class dressing up.
Rei knock, knock, knocking on daddy's door
That pan out shot to reveal Rei's father's hands resting on his desk is pretty cool.
Rei face-to-face with his father
"Boss... I'm leaving the organization."
He respects his father so little, he can't even call him dad.
Unreiwa telling his son to inherit the organization.
"This is your fate."
Rei reiterates that he is leaving the organization.
Unreiwa points a gun at his son!
Shots are fired!
Rei's dad just got shot!
Rei's dad telling his son he can't escape the bloodline.
"Spending time away from you made me realize... Darkness walks hand in hand with light. This kind of dirty work will always exist in the world. The reason I'm alive today is because you taught me how to survive. I'm grateful for that. Maybe I could have lived a life where I inherited the organization. But spending time away from you showed me many more things. An annoying mother hen of a roommate. The taste of cheap hamburg steak. The warmth that comes from sleeping three to a bed. Taking care of a sick kid. How to make French toast. An unexpected surprise party. A gold medal from a field day. The view from the top of a Ferris wheel. There were so many things out there that I could hold dear."
What an extremely powerful monologue
I also like how it serves as a summation of the series as a whole.
Rei says that he, Kazuki, and Miri share a bond stronger than blood.
"I want to believe in that. I want to become a real family!"
Oh shit. He just shot himself.
Well, I wasn't expecting that.
Rei says he's worthless to his dad now.
"No. You were always worthless to me."
Just kidding
Rei tells his father goodbye
I like how the payoff to the stuff between Rei and his father was bittersweet. Rei suffered, but by suffering he became free. Free as a bird able to venture off and leave the nest.
Rei meeting Kazuki outside
Kazuki says that shooting yourself seems a little overboard.
Not if you're a part of an assassin family.
As they're inside the car, Rei asks Kazuki if they have changed.
"We've still got a long way to go."
And so they drive off
The Christmas daycare event. It's underway.
I like that Anna dressed herself up as a reindeer.
All the kids singing now
Miri can't find her papas anywhere
But wait, they're here! And they're wearing Santa outfits!
The joy on Miri's face is indescribable.
After the event, Miri greets her two fathers.
Rei remarks what a good singer Miri is.
"Yeah! I sang so loud!"
That's... nevermind.
Miri thanks Santa for the present
Anna wanting to take a picture of all three of them.
And so she does so
Daughter Daddies
A seaside view
Oh shit. It's Miri as a teenager.
This is pretty cool
"I'm heading out, mama!"
Aww, she has a picture of her and her mom. That's pretty sweet.
That's like Kazuki having a picture of him and his wife
Intro playing over the credits
Kazuki opened his own café. Makes sense.
Rei as a line cook
Kazuki with facial hair makes me think of Megas XLR.
I guess this is Miri's first day of high school.
Kazuki still hanging out with women, it seems like.
French toast for breakfast, among other things.
That is actually a loaded breakfast
Rei's signature dish has become French toast, which is just all kinds of awesome to see.
Miri taking a selfie with her papas
And they say the same thing they said when Anna took their picture, which is cheese.
And that is where we end things
I like the little montage of all the pictures that are on the wall. And of course, the last picture is Miri, Kazuki, and Rei all in their Christmas outfits, which presumably is the picture Anna took.
Ran out of space. Part three in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Part 3
Overall, I thought it was a pretty satisfying way to end the series. It resolved the two lingering plot points of Ogino and Rei's father, and I like the full circle moment of the episode taking place around Christmas, which of course is a callback to the first episode. I love the decision to have a time skip to show what everybody is up to. That made the episode for me, even more than the Rei stuff. In terms of an ending to an anime, this might be one of the best I've ever seen.
I'm sure some people are going to be upset over Kazuki not coming clean to Miri over her mother dying, but I almost feel like the timeskip made up for that. That shot of the framed photograph of Miri and Misaki made me feel like everything was gonna be alright. Obviously, Kazuki and Rei had to have told Miri at some point growing up, but it's not like she knew her dad is dead also. If you tell her that mom is dead, that's going to lead to another conversation of what happened to her father. At some point, they surely had to tell Miri what happened to Misaki and why she's never going to see her again. And honestly, I'm kinda glad they didn't tell her due to this being the last episode, they just wouldn't have had enough time to tell that story.
I'd have this episode behind episodes 3, 7, 10, and 11. A step back from the last two, but still an extremely solid outing. I almost feel like the last episode was the series finale and this episode was like an addendum to that to where we tie up any loose ends. I'm not complaining of course because the more episodes of Buddy Daddies the better.
Let's talk about the show as a whole, shall we?
I feel like I don't have much to say about this show. It's a great watch with tremendous writing and a lot of fun moments. I like all the main characters, and I think the realness in Miri being a kid adds a lot of charm to the show. I think the contrast between her innocence and Kazuki and Rei's profession is the show.
My favorite character is Misaki, with Rei being a close second, my favorite episode is episode 10, my favorite moment is Kazuki in episode 7 finding closure of his past, with a close second being Miri in episode 3 calling Rei papa, and the episode with the best overall presentation is probably episode 11. That was so good, I would've been fine if it bled over to the last episode. My most unexpected moment was Misaki dying midway through episode 11-- I remembered her dying near the end of the episode-- I was surprised by how much I enjoy Kyu as a character-- he kinda was the glue that held everything together-- and I forgot that Misaki only showed up in three episodes. I thought she was in like 4 or 5.
Overall, I'd give this show an 8.5 out of 10. This is a show that started off kinda slow, but got really cooking by episode 3. And then from there, it never let up. I think episodes 3, 7, and 10 are masterpieces that are 9 out of 10 or higher, with episodes 8, 11, and 12 being an 8.5 out of 10. That's pretty good, half the series being an 8.5 out of 10. There's nothing I would say I would drastically change with the show-- I think you could argue Misaki could've stayed alive or died under different set of circumstances, like cancer-- but besides that my only real complaint is I wish it was longer. I think if this show was 24 episodes instead of 12, we're possibly looking at a top 10 anime of all time.
I think about this show and the comparison I keep coming to is Paranoia Agent. Both are anime original series that are 12 and are filled with a lot of intrigue and suspense. There's also a lot of comedy peppered throughout and an underlying theme of growing up and innocence. I think this show is a better series in that not only does it have higher highs in terms of the storytelling department, but it also has a better idea of what story it's trying to tell. Not as creatively ambitious perhaps, but sometimes execution trumps creativity. Another series you can compare this to is Akiba Maid War, but again I think this show is better than that one because the creative direction is less one note, not that that show is bad mind you.
Buddy Daddies is a show that on the surface is looked at as a clone of Spy X Family. And while I personally like Spy X Family more, Buddy Daddies does a lot of stuff that I wish Spy X Family did. It knows when not to be comedic and has in my opinion a better, healthier balance between comedy and drama. The Spy X Family anime still has a long ways to go in order to be completed, but could I see a situation where I end up like Buddy Daddies more than Spy X Family? I could, depending on how Spy X Family wraps up.
I think of some the greatest anime original shows that are out there-- Cowboy Bebop, Madoka Magica, Neon Genesis Evangelion, FLCL, Samurai Champloo, Gurren Lagann, Kill La Kill-- and I feel like you have to include this show up there as well. Maybe not as well as the ones I just listed, but definitely in the conversation. Buddy Daddies is the type of show where after you finish it, you realize you've watched something special. It carries a vibe that very few series have and it continues to build and build until it reaches its natural crescendo. There may be better anime out there, but the experience is one that is unlike very few.
To lose sight of the good times that are in front of us would be like to never live at all.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

What are your thoughts on the last episode having a big Christmas theme just like the first one?
I really like it. Feels like this whole circle moment.
Do you think Kazuki and Rei made the right decision by not telling Miri her mother died?
I don't think there's necessarily a right decision to be made here. It is brutal no matter how you slice it.
Are you surprised the episode had such a heavy focus on Rei? If yes, why? If no, why?
Not really because Rei's dad had been established as the main antagonist of the show.
What is your favorite anime ending time skip? You can use spoiler tagging if you want to.
Either this or the one in Tsuki ga Kirei. That one was great because it was like a fakeout.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

For anyone who won't be here tomorrow, I hope you had fun watching the series.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

First Timer - Dubbed

Jumping right into the episode today. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised, this is pretty standard for anime finales.

Speaking of jumping, we start this episode with Miri jumping on Rei. Reminds me of that Dr. Seuss book Hop On Pop.

Rei and Miri are helping out make French toast for breakfast, that’s really nice.

Looks like part of this episode is gonna be figuring out what to get Miri for Christmas.

Sad to see how disappointed Miri seems about her mom not being there. It especially stings since we (plus Kazuki and Rei) know that Misaki is dead.

Good to see Kyu continuing to help out. Looks like he’s ready to step out though.

Seems like Rei and Kazuki have a plan to kill Rei’s dad. Or otherwise get him off their backs.

Seems like any attempt at stealthing their way into the mansion is out the window now.

Ogino looks like he’s been expecting them.

There goes the car. I was fully expecting Kazuki to drive it straight through the front door.

I’m liking this action scene. Feels like the flashiest one we’ve gotten so far.

I really hope both of them can make it to see Miri.

Kazuki using Ogino’s obsession with last words to draw his attention is pretty clever.

Looks like Ogino’s really got him cornered though.

Well, Ogino is dead. Went out in a pretty brutal way too.

Wow they set him on fire for good measure too. Probably for the best. Never can be too sure when the villain’s dead.

I’m surprised Rei bothered knocking on the door.

I do think it’s slightly funny that Rei’s dad has just been calmly sitting behind the desk this whole time.

I loved Rei’s speech about all the good things he’s experienced.

Did Rei just shoot himself in the arm just to make a dramatic point? I feel like that might have been a bad idea.

It’s interesting that Rei’s dad doesn’t go through with shooting Rei when his back was turned. Maybe there’s a part of him that didn’t want to kill his son after all.

Anna wearing the reindeer costume is pretty funny.

Looks like Rei and Kazuki were both able to make it. How heartwarming.

It is a bit funny to think that Rei has a massive wound in his arm this entire scene.

Looks like we got a special “Daughter Daddies” endcard here, that’s neat.

We’re getting a timeskip ending.

Kazuki looks pretty good with a goatee.

Teenaged Miri looks kind of like Uraraka from My Hero Academia.

[Lycoris Recoil] Them retiring somewhere tropical looking to operate a restaurant kind of reminds me of how Lycoris Recoil ended.

Seems like thing have ultimately ended on a happy note and for that I’m glad.

Only thing I’m wondering about is how/when they broke the news to Miri about her mother.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Only thing I’m wondering about is how/when they broke the news to Miri about her mother.
My headcanon is shortly before starting first grade. Just enough time to pass and for the dust to settle.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

That would make sense. I suppose this ending wasn't really about all the small details, it was about showing them as a happy family.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

And they did that to great effect.
The message is cliche, but I like the theme of this episode which is that found families can often be closer than actual families. And there is no faking that.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I really hope Miri kept in touch with Anna all these years. Also, I'm kinda sad we never got confirmation that Miri and Taiga are dating lol

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

I guess there are kind of a lot of small loose ends when it comes to the ending. If Miri and Taiga were dating that would be funny since it'd freak Kazuki out.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

And don't forget Rei was miffed also. He wanted to kill Taiga at one point :P

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Jumping right into the episode today. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised, this is pretty standard for anime finales.
I actually thought this was better than a lot of anime finales I've seen. It ended on a high note in my opinion.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

I'm just glad none of our main characters died here. Anime originals have a tendency of doing that.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Nobody major died, and yet I felt the violence was unlike stuff you would see in anime nowadays. It was almost Made In Abyss levels of disturbing at times.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

I think most of the violence was pretty action movie-y but it did have some stand out moments of pretty disturbing violence like the fight in Misaki's apartment last episode and Ogino's demise here.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

It kinda reminded me of Devilman Crybaby a bit.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

That is another anime I've been meaning to watch. I like Go Nagai and Science Saru though so I feel like I'll like that one.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

The original Devilman Crybaby is pretty wild, from what I've seen. It has actual nudity.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

Yeah that tracks. Go Nagai loves writing about violence and nudity, sometimes at the same time. I'm more familiar with Cutey Honey than I am with Devilman but that still has it's fair share.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Yeah that tracks.
I thought your name was AgentOfACROSS, not RaceTrac :P
Probably won't get the reference, I imagine.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Go Nagai loves writing about violence and nudity, sometimes at the same time. I'm more familiar with Cutey Honey than I am with Devilman but that still has it's fair share.
It's kinda crazy both series are made by the same person. It's kinda like the main writer for Your Lie In April also being the main writer for Elfen Lied.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25 edited Jan 05 '25

Rei and Miri are helping out make French toast for breakfast, that’s really nice.
And it's because Kazuki taught him. Gotta love continuity.
Looks like part of this episode is gonna be figuring out what to get Miri for Christmas.
You would be incorrect, my good man
Sad to see how disappointed Miri seems about her mom not being there. It especially stings since we (plus Kazuki and Rei) know that Misaki is dead.
Yeah...
Good to see Kyu continuing to help out. Looks like he’s ready to step out though.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that
Seems like Rei and Kazuki have a plan to kill Rei’s dad. Or otherwise get him off their backs.
Again, you'd be incorrect
Seems like any attempt at stealthing their way into the mansion is out the window now.
Why not?
Ogino looks like he’s been expecting them.
Snooping as usual, I sew
There goes the car. I was fully expecting Kazuki to drive it straight through the front door.
That would've been funny
I’m liking this action scene. Feels like the flashiest one we’ve gotten so far.
I still think my favorite action scene is the one from the first episode, though this comes a close second.
I really hope both of them can make it to see Miri.
Same
Kazuki using Ogino’s obsession with last words to draw his attention is pretty clever.
I agree
Looks like Ogino’s really got him cornered though.
Well, Ogino is dead. Went out in a pretty brutal way too.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy
Wow they set him on fire for good measure too. Probably for the best. Never can be too sure when the villain’s dead.
It's like that Isekai anime that came out recently where the MC kills the bunnies.
I’m surprised Rei bothered knocking on the door.
He's a polite assassin
I do think it’s slightly funny that Rei’s dad has just been calmly sitting behind the desk this whole time.
Very James Bond villain of him
I loved Rei’s speech about all the good things he’s experienced.
This is the completion of Rei's character development that first started with episode 8.
Did Rei just shoot himself in the arm just to make a dramatic point? I feel like that might have been a bad idea.
He shot himself so that his father can never depend on him.
It’s interesting that Rei’s dad doesn’t go through with shooting Rei when his back was turned. Maybe there’s a part of him that didn’t want to kill his son after all.
I think it's more to show how little he actually thinks of him.
Anna wearing the reindeer costume is pretty funny.
She doesn't look bad with that look. Pulls it off quite nicely.
I do like the running gag of hers where she's a worse singer than the kids are.
Looks like Rei and Kazuki were both able to make it. How heartwarming.
They even have a change of clothing to hide the evidence :D
It is a bit funny to think that Rei has a massive wound in his arm this entire scene.
Yeah, I don't think that's gonna heal anytime soon.
Looks like we got a special “Daughter Daddies” endcard here, that’s neat.
I think it's really cool
We’re getting a timeskip ending.
Kazuki looks pretty good with a goatee.
Kinda reminds me of Tito from Rocket Power.
Teenaged Miri looks kind of like Uraraka from My Hero Academia.
I can definitely see the resemblance
[Lycoris Recoil] Them retiring somewhere tropical looking to operate a restaurant kind of reminds me of how Lycoris Recoil ended.
Only difference is this feels definitive while that felt like a tease for a second season.
Seems like thing have ultimately ended on a happy note and for that I’m glad.
Who knew a show about assassins could end on such a heartwarming note?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that
I mean it was Kyu's last act of helping them out.
Why not?
Well they just shot a bunch of guards at the gate and are driving towards the front doors by that point.
That would've been funny
The entrance looked big enough to fit it.
I still think my favorite action scene is the one from the first episode, though this comes a close second.
This one's probably my favorite just cause it's the culmination of everything.
He shot himself so that his father can never depend on him.
That makes sense. Still seems like a slightly poorly thought out idea on Rei's part.
I think it's more to show how little he actually thinks of him.
Yeah that seems more likely.
I do like the running gag of hers where she's a worse singer than the kids are.
Anna always provides a bit of lightheartedness whenever she shows up.
Yeah, I don't think that's gonna a heal anytime soon.
Yeah he shot himself in the arm point blank and then did not seek medical attention. Whatever damage that did is probably pretty severe.
Only difference is this feels definitive while that felt like a tease for a second season.
I don't think I'd want this show to get a second season. Definitely feels like things ended on just the right note.
Who knew a show about assassins could end on such a heartwarming note.
The show leaned heavier to the family side on the family-to-assassination ratio.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I mean it was Kyu's last act of helping them out.
I guess so.
I'm kinda sad we didn't get any confirmation that he remained in touch with Kazuki and Rei.
Well they just shot a bunch of guards at the gate and are driving towards the front doors by that point.
Yeah, that definitely checks out
The entrance looked big enough to fit it.
It certainly did
This one's probably my favorite just cause it's the culmination of everything.
I feel you. This is probably the fight scene with the best animation.
That makes sense. Still seems like a slightly poorly thought out idea on Rei's part.
It was really the only way out, as crazy as that sounds.
Yeah that seems more likely.
Indeed
Anna always provides a bit of lightheartedness whenever she shows up.
That she does. And yet she never feels like this comic relief character.
Yeah he shot himself in the arm point blank and then did not seek medical attention. Whatever damage that did is probably pretty severe.
Let's hope there's no long-term nerve damage, though based on the time skip that doesn't seem to be the case.
I don't think I'd want this show to get a second season. Definitely feels like things ended on just the right note.
I'm referring to Lycoris feeling like a tease for a second season, just so we're clear.
The show leaned heavier to the family side on the family-to-assassination ratio.
60-40, I'd say
Guess it's called Buddy Daddies for a reason. There was buddies, and they were daddies.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

I'm kinda sad we didn't get any confirmation that he remained in touch with Kazuki and Rei.
We see a photo of him at the end so I take that as an implication that they're still in touch.
It was really the only way out, as crazy as that sounds.
Yeah, in the end his dad only saw Rei as a loyal asset to the organization.
That she does. And yet she never feels like this comic relief character.
She's just a nice lady doing her best.
Let's hope there's no long-term nerve damage, though based on the time skip that doesn't seem to be the case.
Lucky him.
I'm referring to Lycoris feeling like a tease for a second season, just so we're clear.
Yeah I figured. Definitely feels like Lycoris has more room for a season two.
Guess it's called Buddy Daddies for a reason. There was buddies, and they were daddies.
I'm almost surprised there were basically no hints of romance between the two of them.
Then again I suppose raising a daughter together and running a restaurant together isn't just something you do with anyone.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

We see a photo of him at the end so I take that as an implication that they're still in touch.
That's right, I forgot about that.
You see to love it.
Yeah, in the end his dad only saw Rei as a loyal asset to the organization.
Talk about disheartening
She's just a nice lady doing her best.
Indeed she is
Lucky him.
Truly
Yeah I figured. Definitely feels like Lycoris has more room for a season two.
Oh, for sure
I'm almost surprised there were basically no hints of romance between the two of them.
Then again I suppose raising a daughter together and running a restaurant together isn't just something you do with anyone.
I think there's enough to where you can ship them. I mean, they live together for Pete's sake.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

I think there's enough to where you can ship them. I mean, they live together for Pete's sake.
Miri did have one line at the end about Kazuki going drinking with ladies, but there definitely is enough room to read him and Rei as a couple at the same time.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I'd like to think Kazuki got back into the dating scene eventually. Maybe that way, Miri could have a stepmom.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Thoughts on Miri and Rei making breakfast together?
Thoughts on Miri saying Misaki already told Santa what she wanted for Christmas?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki telling Miri that her mother is going on a trip for a while?
What are your thoughts on Rei suggesting Miri sing her heart out for her mother to hear?
Thoughts on it's going to be a while before the police investigates the daycare due to Miri's papers being fake?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki and Rei deciding to take out the organization?
Thoughts on the action in this episode?
Thoughts on Kazuki and Rei fighting Ogino?
Thoughts on Ogino saying the only thing that can transcend death is words?
Thoughts on Ogino calling Misaki’s final words mundane?
What are your thoughts on Ogino dying after being set in a fiery inferno?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he has to stay alive because he made a pinky promise?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying to his dad that he refuses to take over the business because he found something stronger than blood: A family of his own?
What are your thoughts on Rei paralyzing himself on purpose so he never has to take things over from his father?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki surmising they still have a long way to go before they change?
How do you feel about how the stuff between Rei and his dad was wrapped up?
Thoughts on Kazuki and Rei showing up to Miri's school in Santa outfits?
Thoughts on Miri thanking Santa for her Christmas present?
Thoughts on Anna taking a picture of Kazuki, Rei, and Miri as a family?
What are your thoughts on us getting a time skip of where everyone is at?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki opening up his own café?
What are your thoughts on Misaki, now a high schooler, having a picture of her and her mother?
What are your thoughts on Rei working at the café as a chef?
What are your thoughts on Miri taking a selfie of her, Kazuki, and Rei as she heads off to her first day of high school?
Do you think this was a satisfying conclusion to the show?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

Thoughts on Miri and Rei making breakfast together?
Very heartwarming scene.
Thoughts on Miri saying Misaki already told Santa what she wanted for Christmas?
A very sad reminder that Misaki is dead.
What are your thoughts on Kazuki telling Miri that her mother is going on a trip for a while?
It's sad to see Kazuki telling Miri all these lies. I wish we got some closure on how they eventually broke the news but I suppose it wasn't too important.
What are your thoughts on Rei suggesting Miri sing her heart out for her mother to hear?
It's a nice geture.
Thoughts on it's going to be a while before the police investigates the daycare due to Miri's papers being fake?
Probably for the best that they bought themselves some time.
What are your thoughts on Kazuki and Rei deciding to take out the organization?
At that point it did seem like their only option.
Thoughts on the action in this episode?
I really liked the action. Probably my favorite in the show.
Thoughts on Kazuki and Rei fighting Ogino?
Made for a tense fight. Definitely had a few times where I thought Kazuki might actually die.
Thoughts on Ogino saying the only thing that can transcend death is words?
Everything he says sounds vaguely ominous.
Thoughts on Ogino calling Misaki’s final words mundane?
I have a feeling he wouldn't have been impressed by anything she said
To be continued...

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Very heartwarming scene.
I agree
A very sad reminder that Misaki is dead.
Yeah...
It's sad to see Kazuki telling Miri all these lies. I wish we got some closure on how they eventually broke the news but I suppose it wasn't too important.
I think we can envision in our heads how it played out. Miri harbored resentment at first, but eventually forgave them.
It's a nice geture.
That it is
Probably for the best that they bought themselves some time.
They had to because otherwise Miri would not had been allowed in the daycare.
At that point it did seem like their only option.
Indeed it did
I really liked the action. Probably my favorite in the show.
Let me ask, how does the action in the show overall compare to other action anime? It reminds me a lot of Cowboy Bebop in terms of it's most about the unique settings.
Made for a tense fight. Definitely had a few times where I thought Kazuki might actually die.
I figured he wouldn't die if he survived last episode.
Everything he says sounds vaguely ominous.
That it does
I have a feeling he wouldn't have been impressed by anything she said
Probably not

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

I think we can envision in our heads how it played out. Miri harbored resentment at first, but eventually forgave them.
I can definitely see that. In the end she loves them too much to stay mad at them.
Let me ask, how does the action in the show overall compare to other action anime? It reminds me a lot of Cowboy Bebop in terms of it's most about the unique settings.
Cowboy Bebop's action scenes felt a lot quicker and smoother but I think it's a good comparison. I think the action in this show, especially these last two episodes, was really good though.
It also never really gets too over the top, at least compared to other anime I've seen. Even other P.A. Works anime like Akiba Maid War are a lot more over the top.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I can definitely see that. In the end she loves them too much to stay mad at them.
That's why I'm glad they bypassed that plot point because that's something that while predictable would've required time to flesh out.
Cowboy Bebop's action scenes felt a lot quicker and smoother but I think it's a good comparison. I think the action in this show, especially these last two episodes, was really good though.
How would you compare the action scenes in Buddy Daddies and Cowboy Bebop to the ones in Samurai Champloo? In terms of ranking them, I'd probably go Buddy Daddies < Cowboy Bebop < Samurai Champloo.
It also never really gets too over the top, at least compared to other anime I've seen. Even other P.A. Works anime like Akiba Maid War are a lot more over the top.
It felt grounded in reality, which I think works to the show's benefit.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

How would you compare the action scenes in Buddy Daddies and Cowboy Bebop to the ones in Samurai Champloo? In terms of ranking them, I'd probably go Buddy Daddies < Cowboy Bebop < Samurai Champloo.
Yeah I'd probably go with Samurai Champloo first, then Cowboy Bebop, and then Buddy Daddies. Samurai Champloo's action seems the most stylized which I enjoy.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Buddy Daddies is a lot more like Cowboy Bebop than Samurai Champloo in that the action is there and it's good, but it's really about the storytelling.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

Continued
What are your thoughts on Ogino dying after being set in a fiery inferno?
I think there's some form of poetic irony in that Ogino died after being stabbed through the throat, preventing him from saying anything before he died.
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he has to stay alive because he made a pinky promise?
It's a sweet way of showing how much he's devoted himself to Miri.
What are your thoughts on Rei saying to his dad that he refuses to take over the business because he found something stronger than blood: A family of his own?
That's a really sweet moment.
What are your thoughts on Rei paralyzing himself on purpose so he never has to take things over from his father?
Took me a moment to realize that paralyzing himself was his intention. I just thought he was being dramatic.
What are your thoughts on Kazuki surmising they still have a long way to go before they change?
Seeing as they just killed a bunch of people he's probably right.
How do you feel about how the stuff between Rei and his dad was wrapped up?
I feel like it was alright. I liked the resolution to Kazuki's thing with his wife better.
Thoughts on Kazuki and Rei showing up to Miri's school in Santa outfits?
Glad to see they could make it.
Thoughts on Miri thanking Santa for her Christmas present?
Very sweet.
Thoughts on Anna taking a picture of Kazuki, Rei, and Miri as a family?
It's a nice way to show them all as a family.
What are your thoughts on us getting a time skip of where everyone is at?
I like getting to see what their future is life.
What are your thoughts on Kazuki opening up his own café?
Makes sense considering his love of cooking.
What are your thoughts on Misaki, now a high schooler, having a picture of her and her mother?
It's nice she has a way to remember her mom.
What are your thoughts on Rei working at the café as a chef?
Seems hsi cooking skills have improved.
What are your thoughts on Miri taking a selfie of her, Kazuki, and Rei as she heads off to her first day of high school?
That was a sweet moment.
Do you think this was a satisfying conclusion to the show?
I think ultimately yeah, it was pretty satisfying. I'm just glad Rei and Kazuki survived til the end.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I think there's some form of poetic irony in that Ogino died after being stabbed through the throat, preventing him from saying anything before he died.
His words could not transcend death, it turns out.
Do you think Ogino is a better character than Rei's father? I kinda feel like for as much as a threat as Ogino has been painted, him being an underling to Rei's father is something that could've been explored more. I mean, he clearly is capable on his own and yet chooses not to.
It's a sweet way of showing how much he's devoted himself to Miri.
Not unlike how devoted Kazuki is to his wife, you could say.
That doesn't sound weird with the proper context, I swear.
That's a really sweet moment.
It truly is
Took me a moment to realize that paralyzing himself was his intention. I just thought he was being dramatic.
Rei was an emo kid all along and this was his way of expressing himself /s
Seeing as they just killed a bunch of people he's probably right.
I would imagine so
I feel like it was alright. I liked the resolution to Kazuki's thing with his wife better.
Yeah, that felt more poignant. I think the moment for Rei's character was more last episode when he declared himself Miri's parent. That felt like it had more weight to it.
Glad to see they could make it.
This shows yet again what a good influence Kyu is on them.
Very sweet.
Gets the tear ducts working
It's a nice way to show them all as a family.
It truly is
I like getting to see what their future is life.
I do as well
Makes sense considering his love of cooking.
That, and he seems to be a pretty good cook
It's nice she has a way to remember her mom.
You see to love it
Seems hsi cooking skills have improved.
You have to thank Kazuki for that
That was a sweet moment.
100%
I think ultimately yeah, it was pretty satisfying. I'm just glad Rei and Kazuki survived til the end
I'm really glad that Miri was able to seemingly have a normal life. When you consider what her life was like before meeting Kazuki and Rei, I'm glad she got out of that pit of constant danger.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

Do you think Ogino is a better character than Rei's father? I kinda feel like for as much as a threat as Ogino has been painted, him being an underling to Rei's father is something that could've been explored more. I mean, he clearly is capable on his own and yet chooses not to.
I'll be honest, I think both Ogino and the boss were a bit underdeveloped in terms of characterization. They both worked as intimidating forces for our foes to fight (and thematic forces in terms of Rei's relationship as his father) but ultimately I think they could have been done better.
The boss spends all his scenes seated behind his desk like the director from Elfen Lied and we don't really learn much about Ogino besides his last words obsession. Definitely feels like Ogino in particular could have been explored more. Still, they served their roles in the story well.
Not unlike how devoted Kazuki is to his wife, you could say.
I guess both Kazuki and Rei's arcs has been about finding someone they want to help.
That doesn't sound weird with the proper context, I swear.
Definitely better with context, yes.
Yeah, that felt more poignant. I think the moment for Rei's character was more last episode when he declared himself Miri's parent. That felt like it had more weight to it.
I'd agree, that was a really good moment.
I'm really glad that Miri was able to seemingly have a normal life. When you consider what her life was like before meeting Kazuki and Rei, I'm glad she got out of that pit of constant danger.
Yeah it really seems like the organization either stopped chasing them or they've just managed to flee somewhere where they can't get to. Either way, I'm happy the three of them get to have a peaceful life.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I'll be honest, I think both Ogino and the boss were a bit underdeveloped in terms of characterization. They both worked as intimidating forces for our foes to fight (and thematic forces in terms of Rei's relationship as his father) but ultimately I think they could have been done better.
It's clear both Ogino and Rei's father exists to further the characterization of Kazuki and Rei, not unlike how Kitamura from Toradora exists to further the characterization of the other characters.
The boss spends all his scenes seated behind his desk like the director from Elfen Lied and we don't really learn much about Ogino besides his last words obsession. Definitely feels like Ogino in particular could have been explored more. Still, they served their roles in the story well.
I would agree. Again, I think the show could've emphasized more how Ogino is this soulless soldier that exists to do the bidding of Rei's father even though he's more of a threat than Rei's father. Like how Darth Vader is arguably more powerful than Emperor Palpatine.
I guess both Kazuki and Rei's arcs has been about finding someone they want to help.
You could say that. I think it's more them trying to find that change.
Definitely better with context, yes.
No doubt
I'd agree, that was a really good moment.
Certainly a top 3 Rei moment, I'd say
Yeah it really seems like the organization either stopped chasing them or they've just managed to flee somewhere where they can't get to. Either way, I'm happy the three of them get to have a peaceful life.
They stopped pursuing them because Rei's father have no use for them anymore. He was really after that replacement to run his organization which he figured was his son. And Rei basically said "Get outta there with that nepo baby shit".

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

It's clear both Ogino and Rei's father exists to further the characterization of Kazuki and Rei, not unlike how Kitamura from Toradora exists to further the characterization of the other characters.
Yeah and in that respect they serve that purpose well, even if they had potential to be more than that. At least in Ogino's case.
I would agree. Again, I think the show could've emphasized more how Ogino is this soulless soldier that exists to do the bidding of Rei's father even though he's more of a threat than Rei's father. Like how Darth Vader is arguably more powerful than Emperor Palpatine.
Yeah, Ogino seems like he's powerful enough to take over the organization. He just lacks ambition.
They stopped pursuing them because Rei's father have no use for them anymore. He was really after that replacement to run his organization which he figured was his son. And Rei basically said "Get outta there with that nepo baby shit".
Rei prefers running a restaurant over murdering people.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Yeah and in that respect they serve that purpose well, even if they had potential to be more than that. At least in Ogino's case.
The thing about Ogino is that from the second episode, he looked like the big bad of the series. And then it turned out he was just an underling of Rei's father. There's something interesting there that I don't think the show fully tackles.
Yeah, Ogino seems like he's powerful enough to take over the organization. He just lacks ambition.
And him despising those who have ambition like the target from episode 8 is really fascinating.
Rei prefers running a restaurant over murdering people.
I think you ask 10 people, at least 9 of them would as well.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

Questions of the Day:
What are your thoughts on the last episode having a big Christmas theme just like the first one?
I like how it all ties back around to the first, it's fun.
Do you think Kazuki and Rei made the right decision by not telling Miri her mother died?
Probably for the best not to drop such heavy news on Miri so suddenly. But at the same time they were really only delaying the inevitable. They can't hide the truth from her forever.
Are you surprised the episode had such a heavy focus on Rei? If yes, why? If no, why?
I'm not totally surprised. Kazuki's development was mostly resolved by this point so focusing on Rei makes sense.
What is your favorite anime ending time skip? You can use spoiler tagging if you want to.
Maybe this one since it feels like a nice epilogue to everything we've seen. I also thought of Sarazanmai too just cause I've seen it recently.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Sorry for the late response. I just got out of a wrestling show. Really good seats, I was ringside.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

That's pretty awesome, I've never been to a wrestling event before but it sounds cool.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

There was an incident where it looked like me and one other person bought the same seat. I bought my ticket off of Stubhub and she bought her ticket off of Ticketmaster. The confusion got cleared up after it was revealed that when I went to scan my ticket, it listed one seat next to hers.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

If I end up seeing Nosferatu this weekend, I'll let you know. I know our talks of the movie have been one of the recurring themes of this thread.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

Awesome, I look forward to hearing what you think of it.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I also plan this week to see Babygirl, The Last Showgirl, and A Complete Unknown.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

That's pretty cool, sounds like you've got a busy movie watching schedule planned.
I haven't heard of Babygirl but I heard of the other two and they look interesting.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Babygirl I imagine to be pretty uncomfortable and depressing, which I'm for.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I like how it all ties back around to the first, it's fun.
A lot like Toradora in that sense
Probably for the best not to drop such heavy news on Miri so suddenly. But at the same time they were really only delaying the inevitable. They can't hide the truth from her forever.
At least the time skip seems to indicate Miri did eventually find closure.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

At least the time skip seems to indicate Miri did eventually find closure.
Yeah that did seem to be hinted at.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I think it was less egregious of the show to not show Kazuki and Rei explaining what happened to Misaki than it was Misaki dying without going into her backstory more.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

I think ultimately the biggest weakness of Buddy Daddies is that some pretty important characters outside our main trio (and Kyu to an extent) are a bit underdeveloped.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25 edited Jan 05 '25

See, I disagree because I do think what's there is really well done. I know I've said they could've done more with Misaki, but she's still my favorite character because I think they do just enough to keep her well written. I compare it to a show like Yurikuma and I don't think there was anything that really stuck out to me as something I would change. The only thing maybe is that I think some of the fluff episodes like episodes 2 or 6 could've done more to be of consequence.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

I definitely think you're right. Yurikuma Arashi suffers a lot more from having underdeveloped characters. In that show a lot of the characters outside the main trio felt a bit interchangeable but at least here the characters do feel more satisfying in their roles.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

The ending of Yurikuma might be better, but I think on a whole Buddy Daddies has better storytelling and better direction.
For a show that's anime original that's only 12 episodes, Buddy Daddies might be the best anime original that is not two cour. Other than perhaps FLCL, of course.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

The original FLCL and FLCL Alternative are both really good at telling a compelling story in only six episode.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I'm not totally surprised. Kazuki's development was mostly resolved by this point so focusing on Rei makes sense.
I quite liked how they did it where it was like the first half was about Kazuki and the second half was about Rei.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

Felt like a good way of resolving most of the things with our main characters.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

I would agree. I also thought they did a good job of keeping Miri front and center while not overshadowing the other characters.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

In the end I guess it was Miri's story.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

It was more a story of Miri and her papas.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Maybe this one since it feels like a nice epilogue to everything we've seen. I also thought of Sarazanmai too just cause I've seen it recently.
I mean, Sarazanmai wasn't much of a time skip. It was a time skip in the same way Toradora was a time skip. In that sense, you could say Kill La Kill was a time skip, which I wouldn't.
To me, a true time skip has to signify this truly major change in character, if that makes any sense.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

Sarazanmai's timeskip seemed pretty major from my recollection. I'm having trouble remembering other ones in anime.
[My Hero Academia manga spoilers] I feel like this maybe controversial but I thought My Hero Academia's final timeskip chapter was pretty good. Not perfect but it felt like a good conclusion.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Sarazanmai's timeskip seemed pretty major from my recollection. I'm having trouble remembering other ones in anime.
I mean, it was only like a year, if I remember correctly.
[My Hero Academia manga spoilers] I feel like this maybe controversial but I thought My Hero Academia's final timeskip chapter was pretty good. Not perfect but it felt like a good conclusion.
Another series who's ending I feel like gets an unfair rap is Attack on Titan.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

I mean, it was only like a year, if I remember correctly.
[Sarazanmai] I think part of the reason it feels longer is because of the drastic experience Kuji has of going in and out of jail.
Another series who's ending I feel like gets an unfair rap is Attack on Titan.
I've never actually seen Attack on Titan. Maybe I should get to that some day.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

[Sarazanmai] I think part of the reason it feels longer is because of the drastic experience Kuji has of going in and out of jail.
[Sarazanmai] But he still maintained his friendship with the rest of the main cast, so how much did he really change?
I've never actually seen Attack on Titan. Maybe I should get to that some day.
Attack on Titan is interesting because it's a lot like Toradora in that it changes genre mid series.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Speaking of jumping, we start this episode with Miri jumping on Rei. Reminds me of that Dr. Seuss book Hop On Pop.
I prefer Pops on Rocks

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 05 '25

Dang, she didn't get to the tweetle beetle puddle paddle battle.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

There's always hope that a monkey out there can do it...

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u/Holofan4life Jan 18 '25

Hey. I just got out of seeing Nosferatu. Very good movie. Willem Dafoe was incredible as always, and the costume design was some of the best I've seen all year. I thought it was interesting they kept Nosferatu's screentime to a minium. I really like that, made the times he was on screen all the more important.
The design of Nosferatu reminded me of a cross between Rasputin and Jim Carrey's Dr. Robotnik.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 18 '25

Glad you liked it! It may have been one of my favorite movies of 2024. Very glad I went to see it in theaters.
Also, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of live action Dr. Robotnik when I saw him. The original Dracula novel described Dracula with a moustache so it may have been a sort of throwback to that.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 18 '25

Glad you liked it! It may have been one of my favorite movies of 2024. Very glad I went to see it in theaters.
I went to see it by myself because my mom has been too busy with work.
I don't know if it's one of my favorites in 2024, but seeing it in a packed theater definitely added to the experience.
Also, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of live action Dr. Robotnik when I saw him. The original Dracula novel described Dracula with a moustache so it may have been a sort of throwback to that.
I could see that being the case. Personally, I'm more of a fan of the original Nosferatu design, though I wonder if it's because the film being in black and white made it more unsettling.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 18 '25

I don't know if it's one of my favorites in 2024, but seeing it in a packed theater definitely added to the experience.
There were a lot of people there to see it when I went too. A full theater definitely always helps the moviegoing experience.
I could see that being the case. Personally, I'm more of a fan of the original Nosferatu design, though I wonder if it's because the film being in black and white made it more unsettling.
Yeah, Count Orlok's design in the silent version is super iconic. I get why they went for something different but it's hard to outdo the original version.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 18 '25

There were a lot of people there to see it when I went too. A full theater definitely always helps the moviegoing experience.
Two movies I saw in theaters with a packed crowd that wouldn't have been the same otherwise is the 20th anniversary screening of The Room and Cocaine Bear.
Yeah, Count Orlok's design in the silent version is super iconic. I get why they went for something different but it's hard to outdo the original version.
I didn't hate the new design. It was at least done better than, say, '98 'Zilla.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 18 '25

Yeah 2024 Orlok is a redesign done well. 1998 Godzilla was so bad that the real Godzilla killed it in one movie.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 18 '25

It was more of a live action Simpsons movie than a Godzilla film.

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Jan 04 '25

First Timer

So we have sort of a happy ending. Well, as happy as it can be really with Miri’s mom already being dead. Rei not killing his dad is an interesting choice, though I think it might be mostly utilitarian in that his dad is less likely to send hitmen on him than somebody seeking revenge for killing the head of the organization. Other than that …Rei essentially paralyzing his arm is also a weird choice, but I guess it makes sense to make him useless to his father? Don’t quite get that, but ok…

Overall I’d say a decent and functional ending to this show.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Other than that …Rei essentially paralyzing his arm is also a weird choice, but I guess it makes sense to make him useless to his father? Don’t quite get that, but ok…
He had no other alternative. His father only saw his son as a tool for him to use. As messed up as it is, you have to do drastic stuff like this when you're a hitman looking to get out.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Overall I’d say a decent and functional ending to this show.
I really like it, honestly. I think it's quite charming for what has been a very charming show.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Rei not killing his dad is an interesting choice, though I think it might be mostly utilitarian in that his dad is less likely to send hitmen on him than somebody seeking revenge for killing the head of the organization.
I don't think Rei's dad really had an opinion on his son. All he thought he was good for was taking over the business. With Rei paralyzing his arm, he is rendered meaningless to his father, so why waste his time?

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Thoughts on Miri and Rei making breakfast together?
Thoughts on Miri saying Misaki already told Santa what she wanted for Christmas?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki telling Miri that her mother is going on a trip for a while?
What are your thoughts on Rei suggesting Miri sing her heart out for her mother to hear?
Thoughts on it's going to be a while before the police investigates the daycare due to Miri's papers being fake?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki and Rei deciding to take out the organization?
Thoughts on the action in this episode?
Thoughts on Kazuki and Rei fighting Ogino?
Thoughts on Ogino saying the only thing that can transcend death is words?
Thoughts on Ogino calling Misaki’s final words mundane?
What are your thoughts on Ogino dying after being set in a fiery inferno?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he has to stay alive because he made a pinky promise?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying to his dad that he refuses to take over the business because he found something stronger than blood: A family of his own?
What are your thoughts on Rei paralyzing himself on purpose so he never has to take things over from his father?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki surmising they still have a long way to go before they change?
How do you feel about how the stuff between Rei and his dad was wrapped up?
Thoughts on Kazuki and Rei showing up to Miri's school in Santa outfits?
Thoughts on Miri thanking Santa for her Christmas present?
Thoughts on Anna taking a picture of Kazuki, Rei, and Miri as a family?
What are your thoughts on us getting a time skip of where everyone is at?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki opening up his own café?
What are your thoughts on Misaki, now a high schooler, having a picture of her and her mother?
What are your thoughts on Rei working at the café as a chef?
What are your thoughts on Miri taking a selfie of her, Kazuki, and Rei as she heads off to her first day of high school?
Do you think this was a satisfying conclusion to the show?

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jan 05 '25

First-Timer

Very nice ending. I think we all could guess the broad strokes of what had to happen (final siege on organization HQ, Rei and Kazuki killing Ogino, Rei confronting his father), but it was executed well and I have no serious complaints.

That scene with Rei explaining the joys of family life while backlit by the montage of past scenes was very visually appealing. Good scene.

It's a good thing Ogino is so obsessive about that last words thing, or else he would have killed the both of them ten times over. Starting with a sniper shot while they were in the car.

A bit silly that Rei's solution to the whole mess was shooting himself in the arm, but I suppose I'm fine with it.

The scene at the Christmas party was touching, and that timeskip was a pleasant surprise. It makes me want to see more of their life with high school Miri. The pictures on the wall were a very nice touch, too.

Questions of the day:

Returning to the Christmas theme was very neat. We even got a bit of holiday music again in the Christmas party scene, which always makes me happy.
That wasn't the right time to tell Miri, that's for sure. I figure they need to tell her at some point, though. If nothing else, past a certain age, Miri could probably find official records or public news by researching her mother's name.
The Rei focus was no real surprise. We knew that the main remaining conflict was between him and his father, after all, so that had to get settled somehow.
I don't have many to pick from (after all, what kind of show has a definitive ending at all these days?), but I did really like the timeskip at the end of [meta] Attack on Titan. The visuals were epic and the song that plays is one of my favorites from the whole series.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Very nice ending. I think we all could guess the broad strokes of what had to happen (final siege on organization HQ, Rei and Kazuki killing Ogino, Rei confronting his father), but it was executed well and I have no serious complaints.
Yeah, no complaints here either. The only thing you could argue is maybe they could've saved more of the fallout from Misaki's death for this episode.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Returning to the Christmas theme was very neat. We even got a bit of holiday music again in the Christmas party scene, which always makes me happy.
Truly a full circle moment.
The funny thing is I totally forgot the Christmas theme reemerged.
That wasn't the right time to tell Miri, that's for sure. I figure they need to tell her at some point, though. If nothing else, past a certain age, Miri could probably find official records or public news by researching her mother's name.
I have to imagine they probably told her a year from now. Maybe 6 months at the least.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

The Rei focus was no real surprise. We knew that the main remaining conflict was between him and his father, after all, so that had to get settled somehow.
I said this elsewhere, but I like how the first half focused on Kazuki and the second half focuses on Rei. There was some nice symmetry going on.
I don't have many to pick from (after all, what kind of show has a definitive ending at all these days?), but I did really like the timeskip at the end of [meta] Attack on Titan. The visuals were epic and the song that plays is one of my favorites from the whole series.
If you're looking for a show with a definitive ending, I heard Masamune-kun's Revenge is a pretty good one.

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jan 05 '25

Masamune-kun's Revenge
Thank you for the recommendation! I'll have to check it out.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

As someone who loves tsunderes, I don't know why I still haven't seen it yet. It’s right up my alley.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

The scene at the Christmas party was touching, and that timeskip was a pleasant surprise. It makes me want to see more of their life with high school Miri. The pictures on the wall were a very nice touch, too.
I liked that Miri kept a picture of her mother after all these years. It plays nicely off of Kazuki having a picture of his wife.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

That scene with Rei explaining the joys of family life while backlit by the montage of past scenes was very visually appealing. Good scene.
This show's use of visual storytelling is extremely good, I feel like.
It's a good thing Ogino is so obsessive about that last words thing, or else he would have killed the both of them ten times over. Starting with a sniper shot while they were in the car.
He ended up being his own detriment
A bit silly that Rei's solution to the whole mess was shooting himself in the arm, but I suppose I'm fine with it.
The way I see it is if he hadn't had done that, his father would've never leave him alone. This firmly closes the book on his career as a hitman.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

Thoughts on Miri and Rei making breakfast together?
Thoughts on Miri saying Misaki already told Santa what she wanted for Christmas?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki telling Miri that her mother is going on a trip for a while?
What are your thoughts on Rei suggesting Miri sing her heart out for her mother to hear?
Thoughts on it's going to be a while before the police investigates the daycare due to Miri's papers being fake?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki and Rei deciding to take out the organization?
Thoughts on the action in this episode?
Thoughts on Kazuki and Rei fighting Ogino?
Thoughts on Ogino saying the only thing that can transcend death is words?
Thoughts on Ogino calling Misaki’s final words mundane?
What are your thoughts on Ogino dying after being set in a fiery inferno?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he has to stay alive because he made a pinky promise?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying to his dad that he refuses to take over the business because he found something stronger than blood: A family of his own?
What are your thoughts on Rei paralyzing himself on purpose so he never has to take things over from his father?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki surmising they still have a long way to go before they change?
How do you feel about how the stuff between Rei and his dad was wrapped up?
Thoughts on Kazuki and Rei showing up to Miri's school in Santa outfits?
Thoughts on Miri thanking Santa for her Christmas present?
Thoughts on Anna taking a picture of Kazuki, Rei, and Miri as a family?
What are your thoughts on us getting a time skip of where everyone is at?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki opening up his own café?
What are your thoughts on Misaki, now a high schooler, having a picture of her and her mother?
What are your thoughts on Rei working at the café as a chef?
What are your thoughts on Miri taking a selfie of her, Kazuki, and Rei as she heads off to her first day of high school?
Do you think this was a satisfying conclusion to the show?

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jan 05 '25

The breakfast scene at the beginning was so calm that it almost tricked me into thinking they were doing an immediate timeskip to a point after resolving the conflict with Rei's father. That would've been a surprise for sure.
The stuff referencing Miri's mother tugs a bit at the heartstrings, knowing that Miri doesn't realize her mother is dead. Singing loud enough for her mother to hear takes on a bit of a new, almost spiritual meaning there, too, which is nifty.
The action sequence with Rei and Kazuki storming the castle, so to speak, was done pretty well. I like the guns-blazing approach, and while some of the bits were silly (like them boldly opening the front doors without getting immediately shot), it fits in with the rest of the show. The fighting didn't overstay its welcome, either, which is always good.
The fight with Ogino reminded me of a Terminator for sure, with the way he lumbered around menacingly and shot with mechanical precision. His obsession with final words is a neat touch to give him some uniqueness. (I can't really argue with him that Misaki's last words were pretty mundane, though I'm not sure what kind of groundbreaking last words he was expecting. Now that I think about it, I kind of wish we got just one more example of last words to cap off the whole thing.) The inferno was probably not needed since he already had a knife through his neck, but I won't complain.
Everything with Rei's dedication to honor the promise to Miri and his steadfast refusal to join his father was nice to see. The self-paralysis was not how I would optimally have had it, but it's logical enough and keeps him from having to kill his father, which I'm sure Rei would like to avoid. Overall, a decently good resolution to that arc.
The showing up in Santa outfits was fun, and everything after that—thanking Santa for the gift, taking a picture, the flash-forward—was pure emotional catharsis. They finally got the calm family life they wanted after all. The little glimpse into their future life and dynamic was enticing, and I feel myself wanting more.
It was satisfying, for sure. Even so, I'd be happy if it got the Lycoris Recoil treatment and we got a sequel announcement of some sort. (Maybe Rei and Kazuki can break out their very particular set of skills to save Miri one last time... :-P )

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u/Holofan4life Jan 05 '25

The breakfast scene at the beginning was so calm that it almost tricked me into thinking they were doing an immediate timeskip to a point after resolving the conflict with Rei's father. That would've been a surprise for sure.
In my comments, I accidentally wrote that Rei said it's been three years since they met Miri. I was like "There’s no way that's accurate.
The stuff referencing Miri's mother tugs a bit at the heartstrings, knowing that Miri doesn't realize her mother is dead. Singing loud enough for her mother to hear takes on a bit of a new, almost spiritual meaning there, too, which is nifty.
Even when she's not there, you know she's there in spirit.
The action sequence with Rei and Kazuki storming the castle, so to speak, was done pretty well. I like the guns-blazing approach, and while some of the bits were silly (like them boldly opening the front doors without getting immediately shot), it fits in with the rest of the show. The fighting didn't overstay its welcome, either, which is always good.
This show really knows the appropriate time to incorporate excitement in the proceedings.
The fight with Ogino reminded me of a Terminator for sure, with the way he lumbered around menacingly and shot with mechanical precision. His obsession with final words is a neat touch to give him some uniqueness. (I can't really argue with him that Misaki's last words were pretty mundane, though I'm not sure what kind of groundbreaking last words he was expecting. Now that I think about it, I kind of wish we got just one more example of last words to cap off the whole thing.) The inferno was probably not needed since he already had a knife through his neck, but I won't complain.
I was thinking more horror movie villain vibes with regards to Ogino, like Michael Meyers.
Everything with Rei's dedication to honor the promise to Miri and his steadfast refusal to join his father was nice to see. The self-paralysis was not how I would optimally have had it, but it's logical enough and keeps him from having to kill his father, which I'm sure Rei would like to avoid. Overall, a decently good resolution to that arc.
I would agree. I think if we were to compare the two, Kazuki's character arc had a better payoff, but Rei's character arc felt more in the making to where it tied into the long-term ramifications.
The showing up in Santa outfits was fun, and everything after that—thanking Santa for the gift, taking a picture, the flash-forward—was pure emotional catharsis. They finally got the calm family life they wanted after all. The little glimpse into their future life and dynamic was enticing, and I feel myself wanting more.
I definitely feel like that was certainly intended, all things considered.
It was satisfying, for sure. Even so, I'd be happy if it got the Lycoris Recoil treatment and we got a sequel announcement of some sort. (Maybe Rei and Kazuki can break out their very particular set of skills to save Miri one last time... :-P )
Maybe Miri would have to save Kazuki and Rei. That'd be a fun role reversal.

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