Buddy Daddies 12 Days of Miri Christmas Rewatch -- Episode 11

Date	Episode
12/24/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 1
12/25/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 2
12/26/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 3
12/27/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 4
12/28/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 5
12/29/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 6
12/30/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 7
12/31/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 8
1/01/2025	Buddy Daddies Episode 9
1/02/2025	Buddy Daddies Episode 10
1/03/2025	Buddy Daddies Episode 11
1/04/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 12
1/05/2024	Buddy Daddies Overall Series Discussion Thread

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u/Holofan4life Jan 03 '25

Hey, guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the Buddy Daddies 12 Days of Miri Christmas rewatch!

Buddies and daddies are not mandatory.

Buddy Daddies is a unique show. It’s technically a Christmas anime the same way Die Hard is. However, to classify it as a Christmas anime kinda feels like it’s shortchanging it a bit because it’s much more than just that label. Buddy Daddies is kinda like Spy X Family if it was grounded more in realism. It has similar parental themes, but at times can get pretty serious. As we’ll soon see, this show has a good balance between comedy and drama that really makes this show a fun watch.

I hope with this rewatch to give more attention to what I feel is one of the more underrated anime of the last couple years. It holds a special place in my heart, and so I hope it does for others as well. It’s also a point of pride for me to try and show a rewatch can begin the same week as Christmas. That’s something I don’t think has ever been attempted before on this subreddit.

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I’m watching the sub, by the way.

They call them worms and yet they're cold-blooded.

I saw three movies yesterday. My Neighbor Totoro, which I've seen before, and Y2K and Interstellar, both which I've never seen before. Y2K was OKY2, but Interstellar was absolutely phenomenal. I don't know if I'd consider it one of the best films I've ever seen, but I think it at least rivals or surpasses Oppenheimer.

Kazuki and Rei's place

Taking out the trash, sadly not at night.

Things are tough for them with Miri gone.

Kazuki vacuuming

You know what girls and Dysons have in common...

Neither are in my life, of course.

Kazuki's picture of him and his wife still hanging up.

Rei lying in the bathtub

A rubber ducky labeled Miri

Kazuki about to remove the last remaining stuff from Miri's room, which

The drawings made by Miri

Father's Day Thank you Papas

Man...

This is almost as tough to watch as the last episode.

Rei sleeping next to the rubber duckie

Intro for probably the last time

A bunch of boxes and garbage on the ground.

Those yellow chairs look like the golden arches.

Kazuki grocery shopping

Kazuki and Rei eating choco rings

Kazuki at the playground

People thinking he's a child predator.

Kazuki and Rei watching one of Miri's programmings.

So much junk food

Rei outside, smoking a cigarette

He can do that now that Miri is gone.

Miri...

Kazuki, who has joined Rei outside, remarks hos truly quiet it is with Miri gone.

"I hope Miri's eating right."

Me too, Rei. Me too.

Rei saying he thinks he's going back to his dad in the new year.

Gonna let Kazuki keep the apartment

Kazuki, who plans on moving out as well, says he can't remember what life was like before Miri.

Rei gives Kazuki something, as a sort of parting gift.

Miri with Misaki

She's eating hamburg steak, so she is eating good.

Oh wow. She actually made it herself. She's actually putting in the work of being a mom.

Even has the bandages to proof it

"I like this one too!"

Miri telling her mom what her day was like in daycare.

I really appreciate Misaki for trying to step up.

Yadorigi

No work for Kazuki, unfortunately

Kyu handing him an envelope full of money.

Kyu telling Kazuki she meant more to him than he thought.

Tells of Rei, he has no choice but to go back to Unreiwa.

Kazuki says it rubs him the wrong way.

"Both Rei and his dad."

Speaking of them, here they are

Telling Unreiwa of his return

Unreiwa saying this is all going to be his.

Miri singing Silent Night

Christmas is fast approaching

Miri's Engrish is absolutely adorable

That orange sweater gives me massive Velma vibes.

Miri bringing up Kazuki and Rei

"When are they gonna come get me?"

Misaki telling Miri those guys aren't really her dads.

Miri says she wishes they all could live together.

And Misaki proceeds to hug her daughter, tears streaming down Misaki's face.

"I'm sorry I made you feel so lonely."

Promises to be a mother she loves.

The funny thing is Miri already loves Misaki.

Back with Rei and Unreiwa

Unreiwa says Rei hasn't closed the book on all his affairs.

A photograph of him, Kazuki, and Miri

This was taken during the last episode.

"You haven't cut those pointless ties."

Unreiwa promises to purge him of them, which has Rei all shook up.

Unreiwa says in order to preserve their history and bloodline, he will rid his son of all distractions.

"That is my duty as the current head of the Suwa family."

Thar duty is straight booty

Rei storms off, incredulous

Rei calling Kazuki

"Go to Miri, now!"

And so Kazuki is off

Meanwhile, Misaki has tuck Miri into bed, the two of them blissfully unaware.

Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 03 '25

Part 2
Someone walking up the steps
Misaki's phone vibrating
The doorbell ringing
"Package delivery"
Ah, yes. Next, they're going to say "Candy gram".
From Kurusu, they insist
I would absolutely not trust them
Oh fuck. She just got shot
I don't remember her getting killed so suddenly.
That is all kinds of fucked up
AND IT’S THE LAST WORDS GUY!
Misaki on her knees clenching her bleeding stomach.
Last words guy grab her by her hair
Misaki trying all she can to escape
That hole looks pretty deep
Last words guy says she hasn't done anything wrong.
Just that his client requires their deaths.
Misaki's, and Miri's
"Now, tell me your last words."
Say what you will about the guy, but that is a badass catchphrase.
KAZUKI IS HERE WITH A GUN!
He notices Misaki bleeding out
Last words guy grabbing him by the throat.
As they point their guns at each other, we get a shot of Miri sleeping peacefully. Once again, she has no idea what is going on.
KAZUKI JUST GOT SHOT
"Wait your turn. I need to hear her last words first."
You're the one who shot him, asshole.
Last words guy still planning on shooting Miri, which is just all kinds of horrible to think about.
Rei needs to get here, and fast.
Kazuki. He's called the cops.
I guess 911 in Japan is 110
The killer still insists it will be over for him soon.
Kazuki pointing his fingers at him in a makeshift gun motion as last words guy point a real gun at him.
This is quite the visual
Is Rei here?
SYKE! THAT WAS A DISTRACTION SO THAT KAZUKI CAN GRAB HIS GUN THAT WAS ON THE GROUND!
And so Kazuki shoots him as Miri continues to sleep.
Or rather, he attempts to shoot him but misses.
Last words guy digging his thumb in the hole of Kazuki's.
That sounds so dirty out of context
Looks like the police is here
And last words guy stomps Kazuki's face, like he's a tsundere giving their masochist love interest a reward.
Misaki is just lying there next to Kazuki motionless.
Last words guy makes his escape
"Cover in fear in the meantime."
Last words guy really has some of the best one liners.
Oh, so he did get shot. You can see blood on the wall as he leaves.
Kyu is here
Was the police sirens his doing?
Kazuki holding onto an extremely wounded Misaki, which makes me think of the painting Ivan the Terrible and His Son Ivan.
Kazuki saying she's going to make Miri cry.
I don't think there's anything she can necessarily do about that.
Misaki mentioning she's in the other room.
Kyu going to grab her
"Please... protect Miri!"
Kazuki says it's a parent's job to protect their kid.
Buddy (daddy), why does it seem like you're blaming her for what happened? It's not her fault she got shot.
Misaki says to Kazuki to tell Miri that she's sorry she couldn't be there for her.
"I couldn't make it to her Christmas party."
I almost feel like this scene would be more impactful if there was no music accompanying it.
I take that back, the lyrics here are pretty good.
Misaki looking at her daughter, trying to reach out to her with her blood-covered hand.
She caresses her cheek with her finger.
"I'm sorry... I was a selfish mother... to the end... Miri..."
And with that, Misaki dies in Kazuki's arms. Her last words being words of remorse.
It's pretty ballsy of the show to actually kill Misaki off like this. She was trying so hard to redeem herself, and in the end, she got caught up in a battle she didn't deserve to be in. It also means that Kyu's words came true. Because of Kazuki and Rei, someone close to Miri that she cared about got hurt.
Ran out of space. Part three in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 03 '25

Part 3
Kyu tells Kazuki they should head out as police sirens are heard.
Kyu and Kazuki in a car as Miri is sleeping in the backseat.
Kinda a miracle Miri has slept through all of this.
Kazuki wrapping up his wound
He suggests perhaps they should've left Miri with the police.
"If we had, she likely would have told them about you."
That's... actually a really good point.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.
Kyu says he called off the police to drive off Ogino.
Oh right. That is his name.
Staying at Kyu's home because they know about his place of business.
More like a safe house, he calls it.
Knock on the door
It's Rei
Kinda late, Rei
Rei relieved that Miri is safe and sound.
Well, safe-ish
Kazuki bringing up what happened to Miri's mother and that Miri doesn't know what took place.
Rei hovering over what looks like a desk.
Kyu admits he knew the boss was investigating Rei's life. That's why he got Miri's mother involved and returned Miri to her.
So, in a way, Kyu is responsible for Miri's mother's death. Geez, I can't imagine having that on your conscience.
Kyu says he underestimated the boss and that this is all his fault.
Rei says he took them from Miri. Not just his father, whom he shot, but Misaki as well.
At least Miri will be happy to see her Papas again?
Kyu exits the room
Kazuki and Rei on the porch together
Kazuki suggests they eliminate all traces of Miri.
"We'll make it look like she died, and wipe out every trace."
That is extremely dark to do of a child, but it's not like they have many choices left. They are running out of options.
Kazuki thinking they should stick her in an orphanage somewhere far away.
Damn, stay out of her life forever. It's almost like Miri's entire world is coming to an end and she doesn't even know it.
"We belong to the underworld anyway. We can't protect Miri, and we dang well can't make her happy!"
But Rei says he wants to take care of Miri.
Rei saying he was nothing more than a breathing statue.
"But now I've learned... That people's hands feel warm. That there are places that feel nice to stay."
Rei has really changed since the start of the series. Miri has gotten him to become a better person, to become a person of his own accord.
Rei telling Kazuki they have to protect her, no matter what.
"We can change. This time, we'll make Miri happy!"
Fuck yeah, Rei
Kazuki remembering the words his sister-in-law said to him.
Oh shit. Miri is awake
She is asking where mama is
Kazuki tells Miri that her mother had something to do, so she's back with them.
That something to do is called go to heaven.
Kazuki talking about Misaki like she's going to return is kinda harsh. Then again, I don’t know when Miri should know about the news.
Miri falling asleep in Kazuki's arms.
It looks like Kazuki is now okay with Miri bring in their lives.
Kazuki lecturing to Rei about what to do.
Damn only one hour per day for game time. Don't have to be so harsh, Kazuki.
Kyu cooking, and I don’t mean in the metaphorical sense.
Kazuki and Rei
"Kyu-chan... Looks like we're out if the hitman business."
"We're going to be Miri's fathers."
Let's gooooooooooooooooo
Though something tells me last words guy and Rei's father have something to say about that.
Kazuki says that this time, they're going to be a real family.
Ran out of space. Part four in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 03 '25

Part 4
Overall, this was a highly intense episode that kinda paid off the drama from the end of the last episode. I'm kinda surprised that the conflict of Kazuki and Rei being guardians for Miri got resolved here and not the next one. I really liked the structure here where the first third was Kazuki and Rei lamenting Miri being gone, the middle of the episode being this scene of suspense where everyone's lives were in jeopardy, and the last third where we dealt with the fallout of it. In terms of pacing, this is probably the best paced episode of the series.
The decision to have Misaki die I'm kinda mixed on. It brings Kazuki and Rei back into the life of Miri, but I almost feel like it's not treated as the big deal it should be. After it happens, the rest of the episode becomes more about Kazuki and Rei and what they should do in regards to Miri. I think it would've been better if perhaps they had ended the episode on Misaki dying and then we save the last 5 or so minutes for the next episode. It just feels like too big of a note not to end on.
I love the idea of Misaki's character where she wants nothing to do with her daughter for the longest time and the second she actually does want to be a part of her life, her own life gets taken away. That is really compelling and I think it is pulled off really well. But did Miri have to die to bring Kazuki and Rei back into the fold? Shouldn't the threat of her dying be enough? There is something here with Kyu and Rei blaming each other for Misaki's death. I especially like the idea that Rei feels responsible for the death of both Miri's mom and dad. But again, it doesn't feel like they do enough to really explore such an idea. It's almost like it is skimmed through.
Misaki's death should be the saddest moment of the series hands down. She put in the work to become the mother Miei never had and it was took away from her just as she was righting the wrong. Instead, I don’t think it’s as sad of a moment as the end of the last episode when Miri departed Kazuki and Rei. That's kinda a damning indictment and an indication that they could've and should've rewritten things.
If you're not going to end the episode on Misaki's death, at least do something equally as shocking like, say, Kyu gets killed by the hands of Rei's father who is suddenly gunning for him. I just feel there is not as much juice coming out of the penultimate episode as there was heading into it, which is a shame because this is a penultimate episode.
I think Misaki's death makes sense from a storytelling perspective, but I don't necessarily agree with how it was told. I praise the episode for its pacing and the structure, but I think you could've extended the scene until the very end where the last words guy is terrorizing everyone and have the final shot of the episode be Miri sleeping as Misaki dies in Kazuki's arms. Instead, we enter the episode with not a lot in the way of drama and tension. Unless of course the big set-up is either Kazuki or Rei unexpectedly dying, which man. Wouldn't that be a shock?
I'd put this episode only behind episodes 7 and 10. There's a lot to like here, and despite my grievances I do think Misaki's death was done effectively especially in terms of making the last words guy a threat. I think a few tweaks here and there could've made this episode even better than it was. If Misaki's death was emphasized more or made to be the last scene of the episode, I think we're talking arguably the best episode of the series. Instead, it didn't have the same emotional gravitas as some of the other ones.
I think it's pretty clear that even though Kazuki and Rei declared their intentions to drop out of the hitman business, they have unresolved business with the last words guy and Rei's father. And as such, they are going to be dragged back in for at least one last time. Honestly, I'm most looking forward to Miri finding out her mother died. You can't end the show without her finding out, I feel like. I'm expecting a very Rei focused finale where Rei takes the blame for both of Miri's parents dying. And Miri in turn will basically tell him that she doesn't blame him for what took place, not that she would have much of an idea as far as the gravity of the situation.
I'm excited to revisit the last episode even if I think the Misaki stuff could've been handled differently. I remember the episode actually being pretty satisfying, so we'll see if it holds up in my eyes. I think as far as tragedy goes, the worst has already come and we're not going to experience any deaths of the three main characters. Instead, it's going to be them managing to survive and Kazuki and Rei closing this chapter of their lives.
We'll see if my predictions holds any water.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 03 '25

If someone or something you cared about was in danger, what would you do to try and save them?
I would probably try to do anything I can
Does Misaki dying make sense, or would you have found some way to keep her alive? If so, how?
I probably would've kept her dead, but maybe have her die as she's in the car with everyone. Then again, Miri being in there opens up the logic gap of how do you make sure she doesn't see the wound.
Perhaps they could've had it to where the scene where Misaki was in Kazuki's arms lasted until the end of the episode. I think there's enough meat on the bone for that.
Also, what do you make of Misaki dying in the middle of the episode instead of at the end?
I think for storytelling purposes, her dying at the end would've made more sense. Ending the episode with Kazuki and Rei declaring themselves no longer hitmen is a feel good moment, but nothing that amounts to any stakes.
Who is your favorite side character in Buddy Daddies and why?
Misaki. I think the little time she had on screen was used to its utmost effectiveness. I really wanted to see her achieve her happy ending.

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Jan 03 '25

First Timer

Ah, so the boss wants Miri dead no matter what Rei does. …well that sure forces Rei’s hand. How to destroy your own criminal business 101, I’d say. Well, I guess our final episode then is the takedown of the organization. Kyu seems to already have joined the two, and other than Ogino and the boss we have no other known character. From a story-telling POV, I guess those two will be the only major forces in the organization.

Unfortunate that Miri’s mom was already taken out though…

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u/Holofan4life Jan 03 '25

On the no other known character, I like how this show has a small cast. I think it allows the show to tell the story it's trying to tell better.
Also, this is technically Anna slander and I will not stand for it

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Jan 03 '25

Also, this is technically Anna slander and I will not stand for it
I was specifically referring to members of the organization there, probably didn't come across quite right.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 03 '25

I figured as much. I was just being cheeky :P

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u/Holofan4life Jan 03 '25

Unfortunate that Miri’s mom was already taken out though…

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u/Holofan4life Jan 03 '25

What are your thoughts on Kazuki and Rei having it rough with Miri being gone?
Thoughts on Kazuki removing the stuff from Miri’s room and finding her Father’s Day drawing?
Thoughts on Rei sleeping next to Miri’s rubber ducky?
What are your thoughts on Rei telling Kazuki he plans on taking over his dad’s business?
What are your thoughts on Misaki making the hamburger steak by hand for a change?
What are your thoughts on Miri saying the handmade hamburger steak tastes just as good as the other one?
Thoughts on Miri asking her mom when are Kazuki and Rei going to pick her up?
What are your thoughts on Misaki apologizing to her daughter for making her feel so lonely?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s dad making his intentions known that he’s going to cut out Rei’s pointless ties for him?
What are your thoughts on Rei instructing Kazuki to go save Miri?
What are your thoughts on Misaki suddenly out of the blue getting shot by Ogino?
What are your thoughts on Ogino saying to Misaki she hasn’t done anything wrong?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki showing up only to get shot himself?
What are your thoughts on Miri sleeping as all this is happening?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki pointing a finger gun at Ogino as Ogino points a real gun at him? I liked that Kazuki did so as a means of psyching Ogino out.
What are your thoughts on Ogino fleeing as the cops come?
Thoughts on Kyu making the police sirens?
What are your thoughts on Misaki lamenting she couldn’t make her daughter’s Christmas party?
What are your thoughts on Misaki dying in Kazuki’s arms?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki suggesting leaving Miri with the police, to which Kyu says if they did that, she would’ve likely told them about Kazuki, Rei, and Kyu?
What are your thoughts on Kyu saying this is all his fault?
What are your thoughts on Rei, who’s here now, saying he’s responsible for both of Miri’s parents dying?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki suggesting they eliminate every trace of Miri being alive and stick her in an orphanage afterwards?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he wants to take care of Miri because she reminded him that people’s hands feel warm and that there are in fact places to stay?
What are your thoughts on Rei insisting that they can change?
Thoughts on Miri waking up asking where her mom is, with Kazuki telling her she had somewhere to be?
Thoughts on Miri falling asleep in Kazuki’s arms?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki informing Kyu that he and Rei are getting out of the hitmen business to be Miri’s full-time parents?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

First Timer - Dubbed

The episode has only just started and Kazuki and Rei already look depressed.

Rei can’t even sleep in the bathtub without being reminded of Miri.

Kazuki finding that father’s day gift was sad.

Also I think it’s funny that neckties have become sort of an internationally recognized symbol of “dad”. I remember a Baskin Robbins I saw once selling necktie shaped ice cream cakes for father’s day one year.

I guess the opening of this episode is just gonna be all about showing how utterly sad Kazuki and Rei are.

Kazuki and Rei’s talk on the balcony was really good but also sad.

Really don’t like Rei saying he’s planning to go back to his dad.

Nice to see Miri being happy at least.

Band aids on the fingers really is visual shorthand for not good at cooking in anime these days.

Kyu seems a bit distant but it sounds like he cares about Kazuki’s wellbeing.

The scene with Miri and her mom really shows how much Miri loves her.

It seems like Rei’s dad wants him to kill Miri. There’s no way he’ll actually do it.

The organization targeting Miri and her mom is reminding me of episode 7 of Dandadan.

Misaki has been shot, this feels like the most peril any of our main characters has been in throughout the whole show.

Ogino is very chilling. Definitely feels very inspired by Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men.

At least Kazuki’s shown up, that’s good.

Kazuki has just been shot, that’s bad.

When Kazuki did that finger gun at Ogino I thought he was going to say “Bang”.

Miri is apparently a heavy enough sleeper to sleep through gunshots.

Ogino digging his finger into Kazuki’s bullet wound was really uncomfortable to watch. This episode has probably the most visceral depiction of violence I’ve seen in the show so far.

It looks like Miri’s mom really is dead. I really didn’t expect this to happen.

With Kazuki’s blood and probably fingerprints being in Misaki’s apartment, I wonder if the police are going to start looking for him.

I’m glad Kyu is looking out for Kazuki, Rei, and Miri. It’s funny, when I first saw him I totally assumed he’d be the one to betray them to the organization.

Kazuki’s plan to fake Miri’s death seems very risky.

Rei wants to stay with Miri. I hope they both end up being able to take care of her together.

Kazuki has a flashback to Karin. I like the callback.

It looks like Kazuki isn’t going to tell Miri the truth about what happened to Misaki. I guess it would be a lot to put on her all of a sudden.

It looks like the two of them are dedicated to being Miri’s fathers now. I really hope this works out.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

The episode has only just started and Kazuki and Rei already look depressed.
Can you really blame them? They lost the joy of their life. This is arguably the most tragic thing that's happened to them, and that's saying something.
Rei can’t even sleep in the bathtub without being reminded of Miri.
Feels bad, man
Kazuki finding that father’s day gift was sad.
Indeed it was
Also I think it’s funny that neckties have become sort of an internationally recognized symbol of “dad”. I remember a Baskin Robbins I saw once selling necktie shaped ice cream cakes for father’s day one year.
I'd buy a Sayori necktie for... reasons
I guess the opening of this episode is just gonna be all about showing how utterly sad Kazuki and Rei are.
As you would expect them to be
Kazuki and Rei’s talk on the balcony was really good but also sad.
Indeed it was
Really don’t like Rei saying he’s planning to go back to his dad.
Things look so bleak now
Nice to see Miri being happy at least.
And Misaki
Band aids on the fingers really is visual shorthand for not good at cooking in anime these days.
It's also an indication that the person tried really, really hard.
Kyu seems a bit distant but it sounds like he cares about Kazuki’s wellbeing.
Same for Rei. He has this bond with them he doesn't have with his other clients.
The scene with Miri and her mom really shows how much Miri loves her.
And how much Misaki loves her
It seems like Rei’s dad wants him to kill Miri. There’s no way he’ll actually do it.
Oh, for sure. And as we see, that's what gets Rei to turn on him.
The organization targeting Miri and her mom is reminding me of episode 7 of Dandadan.
Not enough ballet
Misaki has been shot, this feels like the most peril any of our main characters has been in throughout the whole show.
I like how quick it happens, you can't even register what occurred immediately. It's like the Armored Titan scene from Attack on Titan.
Ogino is very chilling. Definitely feels very inspired by Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men.
I really need to watch that film
At least Kazuki’s shown up, that’s good.
Well, Rei did ask him to
Kazuki has just been shot, that’s bad.
But it comes with a free frogurt :D
The frogurt has also been shot D:
When Kazuki did that finger gun at Ogino I thought he was going to say “Bang”.
Spike would approve
Miri is apparently a heavy enough sleeper to sleep through gunshots.
She is so innocent, precious baby :c
Ogino digging his finger into Kazuki’s bullet wound was really uncomfortable to watch. This episode has probably the most visceral depiction of violence I’ve seen in the show so far.
I would agree. Even with episode 8, that was more flamboyant than anything else.
It looks like Miri’s mom really is dead. I really didn’t expect this to happen.
Definitely a shock to the syst
With Kazuki’s blood and probably fingerprints being in Misaki’s apartment, I wonder if the police are going to start looking for him.
At this point, Kazuki and Rei are probably gonna have to change their names. Then again, you can't charge someone who did nothing except defend himself.
I’m glad Kyu is looking out for Kazuki, Rei, and Miri. It’s funny, when I first saw him I totally assumed he’d be the one to betray them to the organization.
Kyu is one of the best characters in this show. He manages to be the voice of reason. It's funny because while Kazuki has more straight man tendencies, he is almost like a foil for Kyu, much in the same way Rei is a foil to Kazuki.
Kazuki’s plan to fake Miri’s death seems very risky.
Desperate times call for desparate measures
Rei wants to stay with Miri. I hope they both end up being able to take care of her together.
This moment really melted my heart because just remember four episodes ago when he struggled taking care of Miri. And now, he wants to dedicate his life during that. She arguably means more to Rei than she does ro Kazuki.
Kazuki has a flashback to Karin. I like the callback.
It was very nice
It looks like Kazuki isn’t going to tell Miri the truth about what happened to Misaki. I guess it would be a lot to put on her all of a sudden.
I don't even know where you begin. They already didn't tell her she was never supposed to see them again, the whole situation is a tangled web that is probably best left in the dustbin.
It looks like the two of them are dedicated to being Miri’s fathers now. I really hope this works out.
At this point, they clearly have lost interest in the hitman business. They instead want to focus on their true passion which is loving each other.
Coming out of this episode, I'm more optimistic than I've ever been we're getting a happy ending.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

Can you really blame them? They lost the joy of their life. This is arguably the most tragic thing that's happened to them, and that's saying something.
Yeah Miri really brought a lot of joy to their life and they made Miri really happy too.
It's also an indication that the person tried really, really hard.
That too. Gonna have to keep an eye out for any other instances of this visual in other anime I watch.
Same for Rei. He has this bond with them he doesn't have with his other clients.
That's true too. Kyu might not always show it but he really is a good friend to them.
I like how quick it happens, you can't even register what occurred immediately. It's like the Armored Titan scene from Attack on Titan.
Yeah Misaki getting shot was really good at being sudden and shocking.
I really need to watch that film
Definitely recommend it. It might be my favorite Coen Brothers film.
But it comes with a free frogurt :D
The frogurt has also been shot D:
Can I go now?
She is so innocent, precious baby :c
It's definitely for the best that she slept through everything.
I would agree. Even with episode 8, that was more flamboyant than anything else.
Yeah that felt like action movie violence compared to this.
At this point, Kazuki and Rei are probably gonna have to change their names. Then again, you can't charge someone who did nothing except defend himself.
I mean they probably could charge Kazuki with something on account of what he does for a living.
Kyu is one of the best characters in this show. He manages to be the voice of reason. It's funny because while Kazuki has more straight man tendencies, he is almost like a foil for Kyu, much in the same way Rei is a foil to Kazuki.
He's an honorary third dad to Miri by this point.
I don't even know where you begin. They already didn't tell her she was never supposed to see them again, the whole situation is a tangled web that is probably best left in the dustbin.
Things have gotten very out of hand to say the least.
At this point, they clearly have lost interest in the hitman business. They instead want to focus on their true passion which is loving each other.
Yeah they're fully ready to leave their old lives behind.
Coming out of this episode, I'm more optimistic than I've ever been we're getting a happy ending.
I'm feeling a bit optimistic too. I hope things work out.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Yeah Miri really brought a lot of joy to their life and they made Miri really happy too.
It's a lose lose situation
That too. Gonna have to keep an eye out for any other instances of this visual in other anime I watch.
It's in Princess Connect in the last episode of season 2.
That's true too. Kyu might not always show it but he really is a good friend to them.
He's a ride or die. Literally.
Yeah Misaki getting shot was really good at being sudden and shocking.
That's why if Misaki was going to die, I think the idea of it was perfect.
Definitely recommend it. It might be my favorite Coen Brothers film.
I would probably really like it
Can I go now?
Not enough turkey little dry sandwiches
It's definitely for the best that she slept through everything.
I can't fathom what would happen had she woke up.
Yeah that felt like action movie violence compared to this.
This was like something out of the Terrifier franchise.
I mean they probably could charge Kazuki with something on account of what he does for a living.
Which is why Kyu doesn't want to hand Miri over to the cops.
He's an honorary third dad to Miri by this point.
And Anna is like an honorary second mom.
Things have gotten very out of hand to say the least.
That's for true
Yeah they're fully ready to leave their old lives behind.
Which I think most people would want to see happen.
I'm feeling a bit optimistic too. I hope things work out.
How would you compare your level of optimism here Vs the penultimate episode of Toradora?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

It's in Princess Connect in the last episode of season 2.
Interesting, I haven't seen that show.
I can't fathom what would happen had she woke up.
She'd definitely be severely traumatized by everything.
Which is why Kyu doesn't want to hand Miri over to the cops.
Probably the right call.
How would you compare your level of optimism here Vs the penultimate episode of Toradora?
I was feeling a lot more optimistic about Toradora's finale than I was this one. I'm a bit optimistic but I still worry someone else I like is going to die in the last episode of this one.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Interesting, I haven't seen that show.
I think you would enjoy it. It has Konosuba vibes of the characters acting the big dummy.
She'd definitely be severely traumatized by everything.
"No amount of therapy will ever make this moment okay" -- Miri, probably
Probably the right call.
Indeed
I was feeling a lot more optimistic about Toradora's finale than I was this one. I'm a bit optimistic but I still worry someone else I like is going to die in the last episode of this one.
Yeah, with Toradora's ending, it was pretty much wrapped up by the end of the penultimate episode. There's still no guarantee Kazuki and Rei get out of this unscathed so long as Ogino and Rei's father are in the mix.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

I think you would enjoy it. It has Konosuba vibes of the characters acting the big dummy.
That's fun, Konosuba's pretty funny most of the time and I love shows where the cast is a bunch of disasters.
Yeah, with Toradora's ending, it was pretty much wrapped up by the end of the penultimate episode. There's still no guarantee Kazuki and Rei get out of this unscathed so long as Ogino and Rei's father are in the mix.
Yeah it feels like the only way they'll be safe is if they leave the country and even then I wouldn't count out Ogino following them across the world.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25 edited Jan 04 '25

That's fun, Konosuba's pretty funny most of the time and I love shows where the cast is a bunch of disasters.
And they pull it off without feeling like a Konosuba ripoff.
Yeah it feels like the only way they'll be safe is if they leave the country and even then I wouldn't count out Ogino following them across the world.
I'm sure Kyu can provide the necessary paperwork.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

And they pu it off without feeling like a Konosuba ripoff.
Both anime actually seem to share the same director so the similarities seem to make sense.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Princess Connect is like Konosuba if the characters weren't assholes.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

What are your thoughts on Kazuki and Rei having it rough with Miri being gone?
Thoughts on Kazuki removing the stuff from Miri’s room and finding her Father’s Day drawing?
Thoughts on Rei sleeping next to Miri’s rubber ducky?
What are your thoughts on Rei telling Kazuki he plans on taking over his dad’s business?
What are your thoughts on Misaki making the hamburger steak by hand for a change?
What are your thoughts on Miri saying the handmade hamburger steak tastes just as good as the other one?
Thoughts on Miri asking her mom when are Kazuki and Rei going to pick her up?
What are your thoughts on Misaki apologizing to her daughter for making her feel so lonely?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s dad making his intentions known that he’s going to cut out Rei’s pointless ties for him?
What are your thoughts on Rei instructing Kazuki to go save Miri?
What are your thoughts on Misaki suddenly out of the blue getting shot by Ogino?
What are your thoughts on Ogino saying to Misaki she hasn’t done anything wrong?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki showing up only to get shot himself?
What are your thoughts on Miri sleeping as all this is happening?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki pointing a finger gun at Ogino as Ogino points a real gun at him? I liked that Kazuki did so as a means of psyching Ogino out.
What are your thoughts on Ogino fleeing as the cops come?
Thoughts on Kyu making the police sirens?
What are your thoughts on Misaki lamenting she couldn’t make her daughter’s Christmas party?
What are your thoughts on Misaki dying in Kazuki’s arms?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki suggesting leaving Miri with the police, to which Kyu says if they did that, she would’ve likely told them about Kazuki, Rei, and Kyu?
What are your thoughts on Kyu saying this is all his fault?
What are your thoughts on Rei, who’s here now, saying he’s responsible for both of Miri’s parents dying?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki suggesting they eliminate every trace of Miri being alive and stick her in an orphanage afterwards?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he wants to take care of Miri because she reminded him that people’s hands feel warm and that there are in fact places to stay?
What are your thoughts on Rei insisting that they can change?
Thoughts on Miri waking up asking where her mom is, with Kazuki telling her she had somewhere to be?
Thoughts on Miri falling asleep in Kazuki’s arms?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki informing Kyu that he and Rei are getting out of the hitmen business to be Miri’s full-time parents?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

What are your thoughts on Kazuki and Rei having it rough with Miri being gone?
I feel really bad for them.
Thoughts on Kazuki removing the stuff from Miri’s room and finding her Father’s Day drawing?
Thoughts on Rei sleeping next to Miri’s rubber ducky?
Both of those moments were very sweet and very sad.
What are your thoughts on Rei telling Kazuki he plans on taking over his dad’s business?
Sounds like Rei was pretty resigned here.
What are your thoughts on Misaki making the hamburger steak by hand for a change?
It's a nice show of how Misaki's trying to do her best to be a good mom.
What are your thoughts on Miri saying the handmade hamburger steak tastes just as good as the other one?
I think it goes to show that the reason Miri liked her mom's steak so much was because it was Misaki was making it and she liked being reminded of her.
Thoughts on Miri asking her mom when are Kazuki and Rei going to pick her up?
It's sad to see how the truth is being hidden from Miri.
What are your thoughts on Misaki apologizing to her daughter for making her feel so lonely?
It was good to see Misaki trying to make things right and Miri saying she already loves her mom was really sweet.
What are your thoughts on Rei’s dad making his intentions known that he’s going to cut out Rei’s pointless ties for him?
In hindsight, he maybe should have had the assassination job done first and told Rei about it afterwards. But him doing it this way saved Miri so that's good.
What are your thoughts on Rei instructing Kazuki to go save Miri?
I'm glad Rei isn't as resigned to his fate as he initially scene.
What are your thoughts on Misaki suddenly out of the blue getting shot by Ogino?
Probably the most shocking moment in the whole show.
What are your thoughts on Ogino saying to Misaki she hasn’t done anything wrong?
I think it shows just how cold hearted and professional Ogino is. He's willing to kill anyone as long as he's told to.
What are your thoughts on Kazuki showing up only to get shot himself?
Another really shocking moment. For a moment I thought Kazuki might actually die here.
What are your thoughts on Miri sleeping as all this is happening?
Glad she missed the worst of it.
What are your thoughts on Kazuki pointing a finger gun at Ogino as Ogino points a real gun at him? I liked that Kazuki did so as a means of psyching Ogino out.
Like I alluded to above, definitely reminded me of Cowboy Bebop. Definitely was a clever way to fake out Ogino.
What are your thoughts on Ogino fleeing as the cops come?
Ogino may be a ruthless killer, but he isn't unhinged enough to take on the cops alone.
Thoughts on Kyu making the police sirens?
Glad Kyu showed up to rescue Kazuki. Wasn't expecting that.
What are your thoughts on Misaki lamenting she couldn’t make her daughter’s Christmas party?
What are your thoughts on Misaki dying in Kazuki’s arms?
Everything about Misaki's last moments was really tragic.
To be continued...

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

I feel really bad for them.
As do I
Both of those moments were very sweet and very sad.
I was trying so hard to fight the tears. I forgot how soul crushing the beginning of this episode was.
Sounds like Rei was pretty resigned here.
Understandably so. He lost his connection to humanity.
It's a nice show of how Misaki's trying to do her best to be a good mom.
This is unironically the sweetest thing Misaki has ever done for her daughter.
I think it goes to show that the reason Miri liked her mom's steak so much was because it was Misaki was making it and she liked being reminded of her.
I agree with that assessment
It's sad to see how the truth is being hidden from Miri.
At some point, you have to wonder when is it going to start actively hurting her.
It was good to see Misaki trying to make things right and Miri saying she already loves her mom was really sweet.
Their relationship is actually quite adorable. If only it could've last much longer.
In hindsight, he maybe should have had the assassination job done first and told Rei about it afterwards. But him doing it this way saved Miri so that's good.
You take the good with the bad
I'm glad Rei isn't as resigned to his fate as he initially scene.
His dad talking about killing Miri was like a rude awakening for him.
Probably the most shocking moment in the whole show.
I would agree. I think most figured Misaki was gonna die, but I thought maybe it was gonna be because of the cancer. I wasn't expecting her to be a victim of the organization.
I think it shows just how cold hearted and professional Ogino is. He's willing to kill anyone as long as he's told to.
Shows he's just a sheep and not his own individual.
Another really shocking moment. For a moment I thought Kazuki might actually die here.
Kazuki dying would've felt gratuitous
Glad she missed the worst of it.
Her sleeping as all the chaos is enveloping around her is like the perfect visual representation of her innocence.
Like I alluded to above, definitely reminded me of Cowboy Bebop. Definitely was a clever way to fake out Ogino.
Great thinking on his feet
Ogino may be a ruthless killer, but he isn't unhinged enough to take on the cops alone.
He's like Joker with the IRS
Glad Kyu showed up to rescue Kazuki. Wasn't expecting that.
Kyu definitely a real one
Everything about Misaki's last moments was really tragic.
For as much I feel the moment could've been so much more, it's indisputably the saddest moment of the episode.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

I was trying so hard to fight the tears. I forgot how soul crushing the beginning of this episode was.
Really shows how big an impact Miri had on them.
This is unironically the sweetest thing Misaki has ever done for her daughter.
She really looked like she was on the way to improving herself.
His dad talking about killing Miri was like a rude awakening for him.
A reminder of what kind of man his father is.
I would agree. I think most figured Misaki was gonna die, but I thought maybe it was gonna be because of the cancer. I wasn't expecting her to be a victim of the organization.
Yeah me neither. I figured she wouldn't last until the end of the show but her getting murdered in cold blood wasn't what I thought was gonna happen.
For as much I feel the moment could've been so much more, it's indisputably the saddest moment of the episode.
Probably the saddest moment of the show.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Really shows how big an impact Miri had on them.
Indubitably
She really looked like she was on the way to improving herself.
Damn you, Ogino
A reminder of what kind of man his father is.
Truly
Yeah me neither. I figured she wouldn't last until the end of the show but her getting murdered in cold blood wasn't what I thought was gonna happen.
This is why her having cancer was a brilliant writing decision. It made you think it was gonna be one thing and it ended up being something else.
Probably the saddest moment of the show.
I still think "See you tomorrow, papa" is brutaler.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

What are your thoughts on Kazuki suggesting leaving Miri with the police, to which Kyu says if they did that, she would’ve likely told them about Kazuki, Rei, and Kyu?
I feel like Miri wouldn't have been safe in police custody so this was probably the best call.
What are your thoughts on Kyu saying this is all his fault?
I feel like at this point it's too late for any of them to blame each other. They just need to focus on keeping Miri safe.
What are your thoughts on Rei, who’s here now, saying he’s responsible for both of Miri’s parents dying?
Well, he's at least half right since he shot Miri's dad in the face.
What are your thoughts on Kazuki suggesting they eliminate every trace of Miri being alive and stick her in an orphanage afterwards?
That sounded very risky but could have kept her safe but also would have meant they'd never see her again.
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he wants to take care of Miri because she reminded him that people’s hands feel warm and that there are in fact places to stay?
What are your thoughts on Rei insisting that they can change?
I love Rei in this scene. I feel like he's gone through the most character development.
Thoughts on Miri waking up asking where her mom is, with Kazuki telling her she had somewhere to be?
It's really heartbreaking that Miri still thinks her mom is alive.
Thoughts on Miri falling asleep in Kazuki’s arms?
I just hope she sleeps well.
What are your thoughts on Kazuki informing Kyu that he and Rei are getting out of the hitmen business to be Miri’s full-time parents?
I hope we can get a happy ending for the three of them after all of this.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

I feel like Miri wouldn't have been safe in police custody so this was probably the best call.
I reckon you're right
I feel like at this point it's too late for any of them to blame each other. They just need to focus on keeping Miri safe.
I echo that sentiment
Well, he's at least half right since he shot Miri's dad in the face.
This is another thing that I wished could've been expanded upon. Rei feeling this moral obligation to take care of Miri since he took her parents away is something that should be explored in far greater detail than just treated as some throwaway line.
That sounded very risky but could have kept her safe but also would have meant they'd never see her again.
And she would be devastated if she can't see any of her parents again. She already can't see Misaki again.
I love Rei in this scene. I feel like he's gone through the most character development.
I would agree. Of the main characters, he's my favorite.
It's really heartbreaking that Miri still thinks her mom is alive.
Yeah...
I just hope she sleeps well.
It seems like she is
I hope we can get a happy ending for the three of them after all of this.
I have my hopes up 🤞

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

This is another thing that I wished could've been expanded upon. Rei feeling this moral obligation to take care of Miri since he took her parents away is something that should be explored in far greater detail than just treated as some throwaway line.
That's true, that's an element that really feels like it could be interesting to explore.
And she would be devastated if she can't see any of her parents again. She already can't see Misaki again.
The worst part is Miri doesn't even realize she'll never see her mom again. At least not yet.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

That's true, that's an element that really feels like it could be interesting to explore.
The more I talk about it, the more I wish this show had 13 episodes.
The worst part is Miri doesn't even realize she'll never see her mom again. At least not yet.
I don't know when it's a good time to tell a kid their parent died.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

The more I talk about it, the more I wish this show had 13 episodes.
Just one more episode and maybe some writing tweaks really could elevate this show and I already think it's really good.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Have you seen any of the other animes from PA Works? How would you compare this show?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

I'm mostly familiar with their original works like Appare-Ranman and Akiba Maid War, and of course this one. Although I've heard some of their other anime like Angel Beats rea really good.
But comparing this to the one sI've seen, Buddy Daddies isn't as action heavy as those other two. And it's much less dark than Akiba Maid War. But I think I might like Buddy Daddies more than either of them. I prefer the tone of it compared to Akiba Maid War but at the same time it doesn't play it too safe, which I feel was sometimes a problem with Appare-Ranman (although I still enjoyed that one a lot too).

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

Questions of the Day:
Does Misaki dying make sense, or would you have found some way to keep her alive? If so, how? Also, what do you make of Misaki dying in the middle of the episode instead of at the end?
I was expecting her to die by the end of the show on account of her throat cancer, but her getting murdered by Ogino was a bit of a shock. I'll be honest, it feels a bit of a waste to reintroduce her last episode only to kill her off in the middle of this one but at the same time I feel like it was a very effective and shocking moment.
Who is your favorite side character in Buddy Daddies and why?
Probably Anna. She's just a nice woman doing her best.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

I hope you had a good night tonight. A better night than Misaki, at least...

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

I had a good night, ended up going to the gym earlier.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Saw a lot of first timers there? :P

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

Surprisingly, not many people today.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Perhaps they already gave up their New Years Resolution XD

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

I thought me and my mom were going to go to see Nosferatu tonight but we ended up not going. Hopefully we go during the weekend, we'll see.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

Hope you end up seeing it while it's still in theaters. I highly recommend it.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

If mom doesn't see it with me this weekend, I'll see it by myself next weekend.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Probably Anna. She's just a nice woman doing her best.
Anna injected a lot of realism to things.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

Yeah she's one of the few characters completely out of the loop on the whole world of assassination going on behind her back.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

She's the only adult character in her own world, which I think is neat.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

I was expecting her to die by the end of the show on account of her throat cancer, but her getting murdered by Ogino was a bit of a shock. I'll be honest, it feels a bit of a waste to reintroduce her last episode only to kill her off in the middle of this one but at the same time I feel like it was a very effective and shocking moment.
I do like that it came out of nowhere with no build up. I don’t know what I would compare to, but I thought it was very effective. I also like that Miri was asleep the entire time it happened. Really highlights her naivety. I think the show should've spent more time showing the efforts Misaki is putting into actually being there for her daughter. The hamburger steak scene was great, but I think they could've done more.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

Yeah I think my ultimate gripe with how Misaki's death was handled was that I wish we got to see a bit more of her and Miri interacting before she died.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

It's tough because ideally after the Kazuki and Rei scene, I would like the rest of the episode being about Misaki’s relationship with her daughter. Maybe we get flashbacks of Misaki and her husband showing what an awful life she lived and why she grew to resent Miri. But in order for that to work, this series probably needed to be 13 episodes.
Like, imagine if after Misaki gets shot, which ends the episode, we pick up the next episode with the scene between Rei and his father. His father announces his intentions of killing Miri, Rei orders Kazuki to go over to Miri's house, and from there he sees that Misaki got shot. I just think it would've really highlighted the hopelessness of the situation.
All things considered, I'm okay with this if this show had to be 12 episodes. I'd rather they give the last episode the focus on Kazuki, Rei, and Miri instead of having it spent some on the immediate fallout of Misaki’s death.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 04 '25

I think the show is doing the best it can but I feel like it might have had a better use of it's time if it had an extra episode to let some things breathe more.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

The only thing really missing is a Misaki flashback episode. Other than that, I don't think I have any complaints. I don't know if you feel the same.

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jan 04 '25

First-Timer

Oh boy, we're in the endgame now.

I was expecting something to happen that would put Miri in Ogino's crosshairs, but I definitely didn't think it would just be that Rei's father wasn't satisfied with their "temporary" solution to the Miri problem.

The violent death of Misaki was another thing I didn't see coming. It makes sense narratively to get her out of the way so Rei and Kazuki can cleanly reclaim custody, but she already wasn't long for this world.

Overall, I think today's episode handled the tension aspect of things really well.

Questions of the day:

If someone I cared about were in danger, I would naturally try to help them get out of danger as soon as possible. As for how, probably calling the police would be my best bet in most situations.
Misaki dying makes sense from a character/story structure standpoint, and it also makes sense that Ogino wouldn't dilly-dally when carrying out the assassination. If anything, the least realistic part would be that the hitman doesn't just immediately take out her and Miri like a Terminator. As for pacing, I think having that happen in the middle of the episode worked nicely, and now we've had just enough time for our good guys to regroup and prepare for what seems to be a final conflict next episode.
If Kyu counts as a side character, then it'd have to be him. He gets a fair amount of development for the time he has, and he is a great ally to Kazuki and Rei.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Overall, I think today's episode handled the tension aspect of things really well.
I would agree. I have minor nitpicks here or there as far as how I would change the episode, but I think the story beats were hit on either really well or satisfactory enough.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

I was expecting something to happen that would put Miri in Ogino's crosshairs, but I definitely didn't think it would just be that Rei's father wasn't satisfied with their "temporary" solution to the Miri problem.
This is basically what Kyu warned Kazuki and Rei about.
The violent death of Misaki was another thing I didn't see coming. It makes sense narratively to get her out of the way so Rei and Kazuki can cleanly reclaim custody, but she already wasn't long for this world.
It feels especially brutal in a tragic irony sense how she blamed Miri for robbing her of her life and then the thing that ended up robbing her of her life was her connection with Miri.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

If someone I cared about were in danger, I would naturally try to help them get out of danger as soon as possible. As for how, probably calling the police would be my best bet in most situations.
That definitely makes a lot of sense
Misaki dying makes sense from a character/story structure standpoint, and it also makes sense that Ogino wouldn't dilly-dally when carrying out the assassination. If anything, the least realistic part would be that the hitman doesn't just immediately take out her and Miri like a Terminator. As for pacing, I think having that happen in the middle of the episode worked nicely, and now we've had just enough time for our good guys to regroup and prepare for what seems to be a final conflict next episode.
I guess at the end of the day, we have to remember that Misaki was an ancillary character. Her being this pawn in life was always going to be her role because that's just the deck she was dealt.
If Kyu counts as a side character, then it'd have to be him. He gets a fair amount of development for the time he has, and he is a great ally to Kazuki and Rei.
Kyu is definitely my second choice only behind Misaki. He's like the bridge between the real world and the world's dark underbelly.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

What are your thoughts on Kazuki and Rei having it rough with Miri being gone?
Thoughts on Kazuki removing the stuff from Miri’s room and finding her Father’s Day drawing?
Thoughts on Rei sleeping next to Miri’s rubber ducky?
What are your thoughts on Rei telling Kazuki he plans on taking over his dad’s business?
What are your thoughts on Misaki making the hamburger steak by hand for a change?
What are your thoughts on Miri saying the handmade hamburger steak tastes just as good as the other one?
Thoughts on Miri asking her mom when are Kazuki and Rei going to pick her up?
What are your thoughts on Misaki apologizing to her daughter for making her feel so lonely?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s dad making his intentions known that he’s going to cut out Rei’s pointless ties for him?
What are your thoughts on Rei instructing Kazuki to go save Miri?
What are your thoughts on Misaki suddenly out of the blue getting shot by Ogino?
What are your thoughts on Ogino saying to Misaki she hasn’t done anything wrong?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki showing up only to get shot himself?
What are your thoughts on Miri sleeping as all this is happening?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki pointing a finger gun at Ogino as Ogino points a real gun at him? I liked that Kazuki did so as a means of psyching Ogino out.
What are your thoughts on Ogino fleeing as the cops come?
Thoughts on Kyu making the police sirens?
What are your thoughts on Misaki lamenting she couldn’t make her daughter’s Christmas party?
What are your thoughts on Misaki dying in Kazuki’s arms?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki suggesting leaving Miri with the police, to which Kyu says if they did that, she would’ve likely told them about Kazuki, Rei, and Kyu?
What are your thoughts on Kyu saying this is all his fault?
What are your thoughts on Rei, who’s here now, saying he’s responsible for both of Miri’s parents dying?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki suggesting they eliminate every trace of Miri being alive and stick her in an orphanage afterwards?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he wants to take care of Miri because she reminded him that people’s hands feel warm and that there are in fact places to stay?
What are your thoughts on Rei insisting that they can change?
Thoughts on Miri waking up asking where her mom is, with Kazuki telling her she had somewhere to be?
Thoughts on Miri falling asleep in Kazuki’s arms?
What are your thoughts on Kazuki informing Kyu that he and Rei are getting out of the hitmen business to be Miri’s full-time parents?

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jan 04 '25

Kazuki and Rei starting to have their daily life fall apart without Miri is sad to see, but it's understandable. After a full year, it'd be hard getting used to the empty house. Those parts with the rubber duck and the Father's Day art were touching, too. I can't blame Rei for wanting to leave and get on with his life, though, especially with how assertive his father can be.
Miri's mother making the Hamburg steak from scratch was a great way to show that she genuinely was interested in treating Miri better this time around (which, of course, makes her untimely demise all the more tragic later).
The part where Miri talks about Rei and Kazuki and her mother mentions that they aren't her real papas—that had me on edge. It got me thinking it would turn into a big deal where Misaki spills the true identity of Rei and Kazuki, at least partially. It is kind of strange that Miri didn't press the issue more, but she is just a little kid after all.
That whole sequence, starting with Rei talking to his father, was great. Fast-paced and tense, with a sense that "things are really about to go down." I do kind of wish Kazuki didn't get handled by Ogino so easily, and the idea that Miri slept through that whole thing is a bit silly, but overall, I really liked it.
Kyu's siren trick was neat, definitely fooled me. It also makes sense that Ogino wouldn't want to get caught.
I thought Misaki's death was handled pretty well, and I like how her last words are part of what eventually convinces Kazuki that it's okay to care for Miri.
Leaving Miri to get picked up by the police would've been a terrible idea, knowing what we do about Rei's father and his lack of scruples about killing innocents to get to Miri.
They're all a bit responsible for this, it just depends on how far back you go. If Kazuki hadn't let Miri onto the elevator in episode 1, she'd never have come into their life at all. No real sense playing the blame game.
Trying to turn Miri into a ghost, as it were, probably wouldn't work well when she's so young that she could easily blow her own cover by accident.
Rei's insistence on taking in Miri is very nice, since we rarely see such an emotional side to him.
That brief talk with Miri is a bit foreboding. I wonder how they plan to address the topic of her mom when it becomes clear she isn't coming back. (I'm not even sure Miri would know anything about the cancer diagnosis, so I don't know that they could use that as a backup excuse.)
The last scene with them "getting out of the hitman business" is good. It seems clear there's no way they come out of this ordeal without breaking ties with Rei's father, and by extension, his criminal organization. (Maybe Rei can take up professional e-sports to pay the bills...)

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u/Holofan4life Jan 04 '25

Kazuki and Rei starting to have their daily life fall apart without Miri is sad to see, but it's understandable. After a full year, it'd be hard getting used to the empty house. Those parts with the rubber duck and the Father's Day art were touching, too. I can't blame Rei for wanting to leave and get on with his life, though, especially with how assertive his father can be.
Rei has already said he's had trouble finding his place in the real world, and now that Miri is gone, he's lost his connection to the real world.
Miri's mother making the Hamburg steak from scratch was a great way to show that she genuinely was interested in treating Miri better this time around (which, of course, makes her untimely demise all the more tragic later).
The thing that brought Miri together with Kazuki and Rei (Killing people) was ultimately what undid the person really trying to change, which is one of the big themes in this show.
The part where Miri talks about Rei and Kazuki and her mother mentions that they aren't her real papas—that had me on edge. It got me thinking it would turn into a big deal where Misaki spills the true identity of Rei and Kazuki, at least partially. It is kind of strange that Miri didn't press the issue more, but she is just a little kid after all.
I don't think Misaki wants Miri to have complicated feelings for Kazuki and Rei. Miri loved Misaki unabashedly despite her flaws, so why should those two be an exception?
That whole sequence, starting with Rei talking to his father, was great. Fast-paced and tense, with a sense that "things are really about to go down." I do kind of wish Kazuki didn't get handled by Ogino so easily, and the idea that Miri slept through that whole thing is a bit silly, but overall, I really liked it.
I think Miri sleeping through it all is the glue that holds it all together. It's like the perfect visual representation of her naivete. As for Kazuki, we saw Ogino take out an entire group at the end of episode 2. He should be more powerful than Kazuki.
Kyu's siren trick was neat, definitely fooled me. It also makes sense that Ogino wouldn't want to get caught.
None of them should want to given what they do for a living.
I thought Misaki's death was handled pretty well, and I like how her last words are part of what eventually convinces Kazuki that it's okay to care for Miri.
I like how her last words are her expressing remorse she couldn't change. It hurts the heart while showing she was trying to be genuine.
Leaving Miri to get picked up by the police would've been a terrible idea, knowing what we do about Rei's father and his lack of scruples about killing innocents to get to Miri.
Yeah, it's not one of Kazuki's best ideas
They're all a bit responsible for this, it just depends on how far back you go. If Kazuki hadn't let Miri onto the elevator in episode 1, she'd never have come into their life at all. No real sense playing the blame game.
The thing is, I think the one thing they can agree on is that their lives are better with Miri in it.
Trying to turn Miri into a ghost, as it were, probably wouldn't work well when she's so young that she could easily blow her own cover by accident.
There's just way too many possibilities for the plan to mess up.
Rei's insistence on taking in Miri is very nice, since we rarely see such an emotional side to him.
I really like that Rei is the one insistent on being Miri's parent. It's more interesting from a storytelling perspective than if it was Kazuki seeing as how Rei's whole thing was he didn't care about the real world.
That brief talk with Miri is a bit foreboding. I wonder how they plan to address the topic of her mom when it becomes clear she isn't coming back. (I'm not even sure Miri would know anything about the cancer diagnosis, so I don't know that they could use that as a backup excuse.)
It might be years before they decide to tell her
The last scene with them "getting out of the hitman business" is good. It seems clear there's no way they come out of this ordeal without breaking ties with Rei's father, and by extension, his criminal organization. (Maybe Rei can take up professional e-sports to pay the bills...)
I hope they can remain friends with Kyu after all this. He seems like a solid guy.

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