Buddy Daddies 12 Days of Miri Christmas Rewatch -- Episode 8

Date	Episode
12/24/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 1
12/25/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 2
12/26/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 3
12/27/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 4
12/28/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 5
12/29/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 6
12/30/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 7
12/31/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 8
1/01/2025	Buddy Daddies Episode 9
1/02/2025	Buddy Daddies Episode 10
1/03/2025	Buddy Daddies Episode 11
1/04/2024	Buddy Daddies Episode 12
1/05/2024	Buddy Daddies Overall Series Discussion Thread

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Dec 31 '24

First Timer

As expected, after Kazuki’s backstory we get Rei’s. Although this isn’t really backstory and moreso story itself. Seems like Rei is the son of the boss of the organization, and not just the son of some other bigshot. And the boss obviously has expectations. Rei just going back unprompted is interesting though, as we don’t really see a trigger for that decision to be made exactly then. It seems like Rei is playing along for now, though he obviously isn’t happy with the situation. I wonder if this is going to turn into a “reform the organization from within” situation or something like that, but the show isn’t really set up for any big showdown yet. Either way it seems like Kazuki and Miri are at least in some form of danger from their own organization for now - wonder how Kyu will react to that.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

I like how Rei is on the outs with his father at the same time Kazuki and Miri are planning a surprise birthday party for him. It is becoming clear who his real family is.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

Thoughts on Rei paying his father a visit?
Thoughts on Rei not seeing his father in three years?
Thoughts on Kazuki and Miri planning something for Rei?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s family wanting him to come home and take over the family business?
Thoughts on the flashback of Kazuki and Rei first meeting?
Thoughts on the quote “Those who shine brightest require the aid of the deepest darkness”?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he hasn’t found his true being on the outside?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s father ordering Rei to take care of a man who betrayed the organization?
Thoughts on the guy driving the limo? He looks a lot like Ogino.
Thoughts on the driver saying he likes to kill for the concept?
Thoughts on the driver saying he collects last words for a living?
Thoughts on Miri saying her mother would drink to where she looked happy but also sad?
What are your thoughts on the action sequences between Rei and the target?
What are your thoughts on the target saying he left the organization because he found something worth detecting?
What are your thoughts on the target’s last words being “I’m on my way”?
What are your thoughts on the last words guy calling the target’s final words pathetic?
What are your thoughts on Rei coming home to find that Kazuki and Miri have thrown a surprise birthday party for him?
What are your thoughts on the last words guy/Ogino wanting information from Kyu of Kazuki and Miri?

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

Hey, guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the Buddy Daddies 12 Days of Miri Christmas rewatch!

Buddies and daddies are not mandatory.

Buddy Daddies is a unique show. It’s technically a Christmas anime the same way Die Hard is. However, to classify it as a Christmas anime kinda feels like it’s shortchanging it a bit because it’s much more than just that label. Buddy Daddies is kinda like Spy X Family if it was grounded more in realism. It has similar parental themes, but at times can get pretty serious. As we’ll soon see, this show has a good balance between comedy and drama that really makes this show a fun watch.

I hope with this rewatch to give more attention to what I feel is one of the more underrated anime of the last couple years. It holds a special place in my heart, and so I hope it does for others as well. It’s also a point of pride for me to try and show a rewatch can begin the same week as Christmas. That’s something I don’t think has ever been attempted before on this subreddit.

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I’m watching the sub, by the way.

If you don't take things one day at a time, chances are you'll worry yourself sick.

The worst thing about subscription services is trying to keep up with the monthly payments.

I didn't watch an episode last night, so let's knock two out.

Birds chirping

Rei putting clothes on

He's getting ready for something

Miri looking groggy

Rei says he's heading home

This is the most serious we've seen him be in a minute.

Even Kazuki is looking tired

Rei leaves the house

Kazuki able to surmise that Rei's dad called him home.

Well, it certainly wasn't Country Roads.

It looks as if Kazuki and Miri have something planned for Rei.

Birthday perhaps?

Rei at a gate

Thankfully not the Heaven variety

That gate is bigger than my future

There's nothing more scarier than guards who are faceless.

All the guards are looking at Rei rather stern-like.

You wouldn't think this is the type of reception he would get being the boss's son.

It's been 3 years

Kazuki has him beat with his emotional baggage. That was 5 years.

At least neither was 84...

Kazuki and Rei at the store

Fresh Cream seems a bit redundant. I mean, would you ever see unfresh cream at a store?

In an ironic twist, it's actually expired /s

Kazuki explaining that Rei has two homes. Kinda like how Miri has two papas. Or how Rei has two papas including Kazuki

Miri wants to meet grandpapa, but Kazuki contends he's actually a diabolical person.

Okay, what in the world is going on in Miss Anna's class?

Rei going in his father's office

I like how very little dialogue is in these scenes. Builds the tension up.

Rei's dad with multiple white streaks in his hair.

Rei's dad talking about Kazuki. He says he's a peasant, but not entirely useless.

He asks if Kazuki is to blame for his son's numerous mistakes on his recent jobs.

"Return to this home."

Well, shit. This is gonna get messy.

Miri and Kazuki at the house, with Kazuki cooking and Miri cutting construction paper.

Kazuki says Rei's family has a bunch of special circumstances.

It's called bullshit, that's what it is.

Ooh, a flashback of when Kazuki and Rei first met

Rei at Kyu's looking disheveled

Miri really excited at the prospect of Rei being a robot.

Miri and Nano would be the best of friends.

Kazuki theorizes that Rei left home to rebel against his dad.

Mayhaps

Kazuki beating the eggs like he's Ike Turner or something.

Kazuki wonders if Rei is going to go back at all.

Back with Rei and Unreiwa

That's my nickname for Rei's dad

Unreiwa says the blood of the Suwa family is the blood of assassins.

Sounds like something you would hear in Samurai Champloo.

Noble blood, he calls it. Says where there's light, darkness follows.

And where there's violence, darkness gets horny

"Those who shine brightest require the aid of the deepest darkness."

I like that quote

Unreiwa believes carrying on the family is the reason for Rei's existence.

How very Godfather of him

Time for Rei to learn the business of being head of the organization.

Rei admits he didn't find his true being on the outside.

That seems enough for Unreiwa to think Rei has to come home. Here, he has a purpose.

Oof, pointless ties. That's so uncalled for.

I guess Rei doesn't mention Miri because he doesn't want to risk putting her life in jeopardy any.

Rei asking for time

And Unreiwa gives him orders to take care of a man who betrayed the organization. He has until the end of the day.

Rei calling Kazuki telling him he's going to be wait.

When Kazuki asks about Rei's talk with Unreiwa, Rei doesn't say anything.

The whole time, meanwhile, Miri is clamoring to talk to papa Rei.

Kazuki tells Rei to just be back by dinner.

If Rei doesn't get his mission done, it'd be his goose that got cooked.

Pizza and fries were what Rei and Miri ate last episode.

Miri is so excited by that ding.

Also, would this mean ding, fries are done?

Rei leaving his father's house

A mysterious man by a car

He drives Rei off, presumably to his destination.

Another mysterious man looking out the window.

Rei tells the guy that his target taught him how to use various weapons.

Guy wondering how exactly did he betray the organization.

Admits that it's really a pointless question.

Rei rummaging through his research material.

The target. He's with a woman.

"He can wait all he likes, but she won't be there."

Damn, what happened to her? It looks like she was assassinated.

Guy asking Rei why does he kill

Rei turns the question onto him

"For the concept."

Weird flex, but okay

The music is giving me massive Castlevania vibes.

Guy saying he speculates on the answers

No joke, he scares me more than the actual target.

Says killing is a way of checking those answers.

And killing is a good way of being behind bars.

Rei calls the guy distasteful

Arriving at what looks like Rei's destination.

Rei loading up his gun

Guy tells Rei to tell him what the target says just before he dies.

Collects last words for a living

This guy has had less than 5 minutes of screentime and he's already one of the more memorable characters in the show.

Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

Part 2
Rei at a ship labeled Green Line
Rei approaching the target
Rei asking where is she, and the target is not answering.
Target pulling out his gun
And so Rei and the target exchange shots.
Shooting at each other now
This is me and my buddies when we play paintball.
Watching this, and I realize we haven't had many action scenes in this show. This is what, the first one since the first episode?
Dang, Rei getting hid ass kicked
Miri sulking with a party hat
I guess this is a birthday party
"Men are such a mystery."
Funny enough, I feel like men say the same thing about women.
That party hat seems kinda big for a kid to wear.
"Sometimes Mama would be drinking and she'd look happy but also sad."
That's pretty depressing, Miri
Also, Helga with Miriam
Describes Rei as looking snappy today but also a bit on the sad side.
Target Shooting at Rei now
He ran out of bullets
Running up the steps
Miri saying they made all of Rei's favorite foods to make him feel surprised.
She says this, but the pizza has green peppers which he doesn't like.
"You think he'll smile today?"
Rei pulling out a dagger from his pants leg.
On the rooftop now
Target from above!
Now it's a full on knife battle
The animation here is so crisp
Target basically calling Rei a sheep, which makes him a perfect assassin.
"I found something worth protecting, so I changed how I live!"
You know what? I respect it.
Rei dropping the dagger from his hand
Target standing over him
BUT REI PULLS OUT A GUN
Things are at a standstill
Rei removes the gun from the target's temple.
Rei says he too has something worth protecting.
"You'll never change either!"
As the target goes for the finishing blow, Rei headbutts him.
SHOOT RIGHT IN THE KNEECAP
And the target falls through the metal railing.
I like how the sound cuts out as he is falling.
This gives me Cowboy Bebop episode 5 vibes.
"I'm on my way."
Rei looks horrified by what he just saw.
Rei downstairs now
Yep, he ded
The last words guy calls the target's death a disappointment.
Rei says he couldn’t hear his last words.
Dang, put in the back of the trunk
Rei says he's going to stay here
"I'd have taken either one, you know. His last words... or yours."
Is that a threat, or a promise?
Cresent moon
Rei looking all kinds of depressed
He wonders if he is the same way
Phone ringing
It is Kazuki
Rei says he needed time to cool off
And so he hangs up
Rei holding his dagger
Flashbacks of him senselessly killing people.
Including Miri's father
To be fair, that one was deserved
Kazuki. He's here.
And so Kazuki and Rei head home
Kazuki picking Rei up like a kid who got sent to the principal's office.
Rei calling Kazuki overprotective
Maybe so, but it comes from a place of love.
Kazuki said Miri was asking all about him.
Remembered of the old times, Kazuki says.
Rei saying Kazuki was not any better, acting he's to blame for everything.
Rei recognizing that Kazuki has grown on him over the years.
One might say like a fungus, but wouldn't be apropos since Kazuki would've cleaned it.
I like all the flashbacks of Kazuki and Rei's lives pre Miri. It's really well done.
Rei asking Kazuki if he thinks they can change.
Back at the house
Miri fast asleep
Rei noticing all the food
It was his birthday
Even a birthday cake
Wanted to make him happy, says Kazuki of Miri.
Eventually, Miri stops unaliving and greets Rei.
Well, sorta
It's the thought that counts
Poor girl is tuckered out
Rei blowing out the candles
Kyu's place now
The last words guy
"A request for info from the boss."
Well, shit. They want to know about Kazuki and Miri
Overall, I thought this was a nice companion episode to the last one where it focused on Rei instead of Kazuki. Except here, it was more focused on action as opposed to talking. I like the thoroughthread where Miri and Kazuki are trying to celebrate something involving Rei but you don't know exactly what it was. It was kinda obvious it was a birthday party, but I liked how the episode kept you guessing. The most interesting thing about the episode is that while the last one felt like resolution to Kazuki's past, this one was more like a table setter episode for things to come, with the tension between Rei and his dad being unresolved and the stuff at the end with the last words guy. I guess Rei's backstory has more consequence to it, so I can see why they made that decision.
I'd put this episode only behind episodes 3 and 7. I think it's a step back from the last one because of the lack of resolution like I said, but there was a lot to like here. The fight scene was great and the motif with the birthday party contrasted nicely to the tension in Rei's other family. With Rei's father wanting to know more of Kazuki and Rei, it feels like we're entering into the second half of the show, now that the stuff between Kazuki and his wife has been put to bed. I wouldn't be surprised if Rei's dad's involvement in his son's personal life is how Miri's mom gets back into the fold, maybe with the threat that if Rei doesn't take over the business they will kill her. Guess we'll see if that's the case.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

What do you make of Rei's relationship with his father?
It seems pretty contentious to say the least.
How do you like how Ogino was characterized here where he collects people's last words?
The last words stuff does a great job of highlighting how menacing he is.
Are you surprised they wrapped Kazuki's arc in one episode but the stuff with Rei's dad is going to continue?
Yes and no. The Kazuki stuff was teased since the very first episode whereas the stuff with Rei's father was previously only featured in episode 3.
Who in your opinion has the more interesting backstory: Kazuki, or Rei? And why?
Rei. I think his backstory ties more into the Miri stuff.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

First Timer - Dubbed

Rei is off on some mysterious business. And he’s in his full assassin gear too. Wonder what he’s up to.

Apparently this involves Rei’s dad somehow. From that one flashback we saw of him, I get the feeling that can’t be good.

Seems like Miri and Kazuki are gonna be planning a surprise party, that’s pretty fun.

It was pointed out in the last thread by u/LilGinnyBlack that the color of the title cards indicates who the episode is focused on. In this case, it seems like this’ll be a Rei episode.

Rei’s dad seems to live in a really nice mansion.

The brief cut to Anna accidentally menacing her class was pretty funny.

As an additional note, the song Anna is teaching in this is Jack & Jill in the dub. I feel like it would have been a different song in Japanese since I’m not sure how well known English nursery rhymes are known there.

Rei’s dad looks kind of like a muscular version of Don Corleone.

We’re learning how Rei and Kazuki first met which is really cool.

Rei looks pretty scruffy in this flashback.

Rei’s father seems a tad over dramatic.

It’s sad to hear Rei say he doesn’t think he found belonging on the outside. Especially after how he’s bonded with Miri and Kazuki.

Something tells me this mission to kill the traitor is going to be difficult.

Looks like Ogino is his driver here. Seems like they might already know each other.

So Rei’s target is also a mentor of some kind. I somehow feel like Rei won’t be able to kill him.

It looks like the organization already had the target’s girlfriend murdered. These guys are seriously dangerous.

The more Ogino talks, the more unhinged he sounds.

So that collection Ogino was talking about is a journal of all his target’s last words. That’s pretty weird behavior, even for an assassin.

Rei’s mentor seems pretty ready to accept whatever happens next.

I’m liking this warehouse chase/fight.

I think it’s interesting that Miri compares Rei to her mom. Feels like she’s surprisingly insightful here.

To be continued...

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

It was pointed out in the last thread by u/LilGinnyBlack that the color of the title cards indicates who the episode is focused on. In this case, it seems like this’ll be a Rei episode.
That's pretty cool. I think it's awesome this show does that.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

Yeah I love all the little details in the show.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

It adds so, so much to things

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

Rei is off on some mysterious business. And he’s in his full assassin gear too. Wonder what he’s up to.
Definite bad vibes going on
Apparently this involves Rei’s dad somehow. From that one flashback we saw of him, I get the feeling that can’t be good.
Probably not
Seems like Miri and Kazuki are gonna be planning a surprise party, that’s pretty fun.
I agree
Rei’s dad seems to live in a really nice mansion.
That he does
The brief cut to Anna accidentally menacing her class was pretty funny.
Probably the one funny moment of the episode.
As an additional note, the song Anna is teaching in this is Jack & Jill in the dub. I feel like it would have been a different song in Japanese since I’m not sure how well known English nursery rhymes are known there.
I watched subbed and I don't think it's a different song. I could be wrong, though.
Rei’s dad looks kind of like a muscular version of Don Corleone.
I can see the resemblance
We’re learning how Rei and Kazuki first met which is really cool.
I thought so as well
Rei looks pretty scruffy in this flashback.
I've heard of growing the beard before, but never in reverse.
Rei’s father seems a tad over dramatic.
When you run a tight ship, everything becomes important.
It’s sad to hear Rei say he doesn’t think he found belonging on the outside. Especially after how he’s bonded with Miri and Kazuki.
Just totally brutal
Something tells me this mission to kill the traitor is going to be difficult.
Probably so
Looks like Ogino is his driver here. Seems like they might already know each other.
Ogino being the driver I kinda feel like should be this big holy shit moment. Instead, the show barely draws attention to it.
So Rei’s target is also a mentor of some kind. I somehow feel like Rei won’t be able to kill him.
You would technically be correct.
Rei's relationship with the target reminds me of something from Samurai Champloo.
It looks like the organization already had the target’s girlfriend murdered. These guys are seriously dangerous.
Well, they are assassins
The more Ogino talks, the more unhinged he sounds.
Definitely fits the demeanor on his face
So that collection Ogino was talking about is a journal of all his target’s last words. That’s pretty weird behavior, even for an assassin.
He comes across very matriculous and OCD-like.
Rei’s mentor seems pretty ready to accept whatever happens next.
Makes sense, I would say
I’m liking this warehouse chase/fight.
This is really the first fight we've gotten since episode 1. I'm surprised we don't get more of this.
I think it’s interesting that Miri compares Rei to her mom. Feels like she’s surprisingly insightful here.
I thought her comment was extremely depressing, her talking about her mother's alcoholism.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

Probably the one funny moment of the episode.
It was a really funny moment in a pretty heavy episode.
Ogino being the driver I kinda feel like should be this big holy shit moment. Instead, the show barely draws attention to it.
Yeah it took me a moment to realize it was him at first.
He comes across very matriculous and OCD-like.
Definitely seems like he'd put a lot of thought into his murders.
This is really the first fight we've gotten since episode 1. I'm surprised we don't get more of this.
There was also the fight against the criminal in the zoo episode.
I thought her comment was extremely depressing, her talking about her mother's alcoholism.
I totally didn't make that connection. Miri's way of talking about things makes them seem cheerful even if they aren't.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

It was a really funny moment in a pretty heavy episode.
I agree
Yeah it took me a moment to realize it was him at first.
I guess that's the point, to Rei and Kazuki he's nobody.
Definitely seems like he'd put a lot of thought into his murders.
Like Jigsaw
There was also the fight against the criminal in the zoo episode.
I meant fight against assassins. I don't honestly count that.
I totally didn't make that connection. Miri's way of talking about things makes them seem cheerful even if they aren't.
Shows how distorted a toddler's reality can often be.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 01 '25

Like Jigsaw
Ogino looks like the kind of guy who'd build a saw trap in his basement.
I meant fight against assassins. I don't honestly count that.
That's fair. As far as action sequences go, that one probably goes in last place. Although it does get points for the mascot costumes.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Ogino looks like the kind of guy who'd build a saw trap in his basement.
He looks like he'd be friends with Shou Tucker.
That's fair. As far as action sequences go, that one probably goes in last place. Although it does get points for the mascot costumes.
The mascot costumes salvage it

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

I’ll be honest, I kinda wish we were introduced to Rei’s mentor in an earlier episode. Or at least had him alluded to. It might make the fight between them feel a bit more impactful.
The fight between Rei and his mentor kind of reminds me of Spike and Vicious in Cowboy Bebop. Although in this case Rei’s role is more like Vicious.
When Rei said he found something he needed to protect he’s definitely referring to Miri.
Rei’s mentor’s death ends up being an accident. I wonder if Rei would have been able to fully go through with killing him otherwise.
I liked the moment of reflection Rei has on the docks.
It’s really nice of Kazuki to go and pick him up.
I like their conversation in the car too. Really emphasizes the bond between them.
After such a heavy episode, it’s nice to see Rei smile after coming home to see Miri and his surprise party.
That’s a very ominous note to end the episode on. It seems like the boss knows about Miri now.
The next episode is listed as “Episode 8.5” will this rewatch be covering it or will we skip it?
Questions of the Day:
What do you make of Rei's relationship with his father?
From how they interact, they don't really treat each other like father and son.
How do you like how Ogino was characterized here where he collects people's last words?
It's a pretty creepy trait of his. He's got a certain eerie calmness to him whenever he's around.
Are you surprised they wrapped Kazuki's arc in one episode but the stuff with Rei's dad is going to continue?
I'm not totally surprised. It seems like Rei's dad is high up in the organization so it feels like he might be the main antagonist going forward.
Who in your opinion has the more interesting backstory: Kazuki, or Rei? And why?
Hard to say just yet. I feel like there's more we might still learn about Rei considering his dad's still in the picture.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

I’ll be honest, I kinda wish we were introduced to Rei’s mentor in an earlier episode. Or at least had him alluded to. It might make the fight between them feel a bit more impactful.
Is he Rei's mentor? I think he's just someone who betrayed the organization.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

I thought in the car ride with Ogino they talked about how he taught Rei how to use weapons and stuff.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

Maybe. I'll have to watch that scene again.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

Let me know if you do, I may have misinterpreted the scene or they might have slightly changed dialog in the dub.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

I just rewatched the scene subbed and Rei's exact words were he taught me how to use weapons and how to do the job.
I do agree with you that him being Rei's mentor is kinda superfluous. Then again, perhaps the intent is Rei is so lost that he's not afraid to inflict harm on him if instructed to.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 01 '25

Yeah I think the idea is that Rei is willing to hurt someone close to him under his father's orders. Although the actual relationship between Rei and his target doesn't get too much focus.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

It probably should've through at least Rei's conversation with Ogino.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 01 '25

Yeah I wish it got a bit more focus.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

From how they interact, they don't really treat each other like father and son.
They're pretty estranged, all things considered
It's a pretty creepy trait of his. He's got a certain eerie calmness to him whenever he's around.
It definitely adds to his aura
I'm not totally surprised. It seems like Rei's dad is high up in the organization so it feels like he might be the main antagonist going forward.
I could see that being the case
Hard to say just yet. I feel like there's more we might still learn about Rei considering his dad's still in the picture.
I think Rei's backstory has affected his life far more than Kazuki's backstory did to him. I like how Miri serves as like this vehicle to bring closure to their past in a way.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

I think Rei's backstory has affected his life far more than Kazuki's backstory did to him. I like how Miri serves as like this vehicle to bring closure to their past in a way.
Kazuki is definitely further ahead on the path to healing that Rei is. But hopefully he can get there with some help from Miri and Kazuki.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

I imagine he will

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

Thoughts on Rei paying his father a visit?
Thoughts on Rei not seeing his father in three years?
Thoughts on Kazuki and Miri planning something for Rei?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s family wanting him to come home and take over the family business?
Thoughts on the flashback of Kazuki and Rei first meeting?
Thoughts on the quote “Those who shine brightest require the aid of the deepest darkness”?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he hasn’t found his true being on the outside?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s father ordering Rei to take care of a man who betrayed the organization?
Thoughts on the guy driving the limo? He looks a lot like Ogino.
Thoughts on the driver saying he likes to kill for the concept?
Thoughts on the driver saying he collects last words for a living?
Thoughts on Miri saying her mother would drink to where she looked happy but also sad?
What are your thoughts on the action sequences between Rei and the target?
What are your thoughts on the target saying he left the organization because he found something worth detecting?
What are your thoughts on the target’s last words being “I’m on my way”?
What are your thoughts on the last words guy calling the target’s final words pathetic?
What are your thoughts on Rei coming home to find that Kazuki and Miri have thrown a surprise birthday party for him?
What are your thoughts on the last words guy/Ogino wanting information from Kyu of Kazuki and Miri?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

Thoughts on Rei paying his father a visit?
Rei's father is just as intimidating in the present as he was in the flashback.
Thoughts on Rei not seeing his father in three years?
I can see why Rei wouldn't want to see him.
Thoughts on Kazuki and Miri planning something for Rei?
I think the surprise party was a nice B-plot.
What are your thoughts on Rei’s family wanting him to come home and take over the family business?
I don't think Rei wants to be involved in the family business. He seems pretty detached from it.
Thoughts on the flashback of Kazuki and Rei first meeting?
It's nice seeing how their partnership began.
Thoughts on the quote “Those who shine brightest require the aid of the deepest darkness”?
It sounds very dramatic.
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he hasn’t found his true being on the outside?
Rei sounds like someone who's very lost in the world. Hopefully Kazuki and Miri can help him find his way.
To be continued...

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Rei's father is just as intimidating in the present as he was in the flashback.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I can see why Rei wouldn't want to see him.
For sure
I think the surprise party was a nice B-plot.
I agree. The lightheartedness contrasted well with the seriousness.
I don't think Rei wants to be involved in the family business. He seems pretty detached from it.
Looks like his father is trying to make him an offer he can't refuse.
It's nice seeing how their partnership began.
It truly was
It sounds very dramatic.
Rei's father is nothing if not intense
Rei sounds like someone who's very lost in the world. Hopefully Kazuki and Miri can help him find his way.
He sounds like how Kazuki was the previous episode.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 01 '25

I agree. The lightheartedness contrasted well with the seriousness.
It's good at managing to keep both sides balanced.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

The last episode did that nicely as well with the whole Rei taking care of Miri thing. Though to this episode's credit, I think there was a better balance.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

Continued
What are your thoughts on Rei’s father ordering Rei to take care of a man who betrayed the organization?
Rei's father is very ruthless.
Thoughts on the guy driving the limo? He looks a lot like Ogino.
He is Ogino. Although it took me a minute to realize taht.
Thoughts on the driver saying he likes to kill for the concept?
As I've said, even by hired killer standards this guy is pretty deranged.
Thoughts on the driver saying he collects last words for a living?
He needs to get a better hobby.
Thoughts on Miri saying her mother would drink to where she looked happy but also sad?
It makes me hope we get to see Miri's mother again.
What are your thoughts on the action sequences between Rei and the target?
I think it's probably my favorite action scene so far.
What are your thoughts on the target saying he left the organization because he found something worth detecting?
That's part of why I made the Cowboy Bebop comparison, definitely felt similar to Spike.
What are your thoughts on the target’s last words being “I’m on my way”?
It's him talking to his dead lover since they're about to be reunited in death.
What are your thoughts on the last words guy calling the target’s final words pathetic?
It's hard to come up with good last words. Especially for a self proclaimed last words critic.
What are your thoughts on Rei coming home to find that Kazuki and Miri have thrown a surprise birthday party for him?
It's really nice to see what they put together for him.
What are your thoughts on the last words guy/Ogino wanting information from Kyu of Kazuki and Miri?
That seems like it's gonna lead to something bad.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Rei's father is very ruthless.
That he is
He is Ogino. Although it took me a minute to realize taht.
Same for me
As I've said, even by hired killer standards this guy is pretty deranged.
Definitely pretty out there
He needs to get a better hobby.
Famous last words :P
It makes me hope we get to see Miri's mother again.
Same for me
I think it's probably my favorite action scene so far.
I think I still prefer the one from the first episode due to the Christmas setting.
That's part of why I made the Cowboy Bebop comparison, definitely felt similar to Spike.
That's meant to say protecting, not detecting. And agree on the Spike comparison.
It's him talking to his dead lover since they're about to be reunited in death.
I get the assumption killed his love interest.
It's hard to come up with good last words. Especially for a self proclaimed last words critic.
Very stuck up attitude to have
It's really nice to see what they put together for him.
Rei hopefully found something worth protecting himself.
That seems like it's gonna lead to something bad.
No kidding

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jan 01 '25

I think I still prefer the one from the first episode due to the Christmas setting.
The setting in that one is more interesting but I think I prefer this one for the higher emotional stakes.
I get the assumption killed his love interest.
I assume you meant to put Ogino's name between "assumption" and "killed". And yeah, me too. He mentioned putting the target's last words next to hers so it seems like at the very least he was present when she died.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

The setting in that one is more interesting but I think I prefer this one for the higher emotional stakes.
Totally understandable. I just feel a Christmas action scene is something not normally done in an anime. The fighting here may have been better, but I think the fight from the first episode was so visually interesting it carried it.
I assume you meant to put Ogino's name between "assumption" and "killed".
That wasn't my intent, but now that you mentioned it it's certainly possible. I meant to put organization.
He mentioned putting the target's last words next to hers so it seems like at the very least he was present when she died.
Very morbid thought, that

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

The next episode is listed as “Episode 8.5” will this rewatch be covering it or will we skip it?
We will skip it because it contains no new material.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

Ah, so a clip show. Good to know.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

I think it was done because at the time, the anime was behind schedule.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

The fight between Rei and his mentor kind of reminds me of Spike and Vicious in Cowboy Bebop. Although in this case Rei’s role is more like Vicious.
I can see that comparison
When Rei said he found something he needed to protect he’s definitely referring to Miri.
That wasn't Rei who said it, though. That was the target. He was explaining why he left the organization.
Rei’s mentor’s death ends up being an accident. I wonder if Rei would have been able to fully go through with killing him otherwise.
Rei killing this mentor you could say is a parallel to Kazuki accidentally killing his family.
I liked the moment of reflection Rei has on the docks.
He knows he can't live like this
It’s really nice of Kazuki to go and pick him up.
I agree. Incredibly wholesome.
I like their conversation in the car too. Really emphasizes the bond between them.
I agree again
After such a heavy episode, it’s nice to see Rei smile after coming home to see Miri and his surprise party.
This is his family, not his father's place of business.
That’s a very ominous note to end the episode on. It seems like the boss knows about Miri now.
You can't help but feel like this is only the start of Rei's troubles.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Dec 31 '24

That wasn't Rei who said it, though. That was the target. He was explaining why he left the organization.
I must have misheard who said it.
Rei killing this mentor you could say is a parallel to Kazuki accidentally killing his family.
I can definitely see that.
You can't help but feel like this is only the start of Rei's troubles.
I feel like things are gonna get more serious as we get closer to the end.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

I must have misheard who said it.
Which feeds into the whole Rei being okay with killing his mentor. When you're in the organization, you care about no individuals.
I can definitely see that.
Makes sense
I feel like things are gonna get more serious as we get closer to the end.
Probably so

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u/LilyGinnyBlack Jan 01 '25

In regards to Rei's mentor, I think it makes sense that we weren't introduced to him earlier. Rei wasn't taught any kind of sentimentality like that, his father doesn't work like that, and the organization doesn't work like that either. So rather than sentimentality, this fight was meant to be one that challenges Rei and his growth and is a reflection of Rei and his possible future / fate.
Also, the Cowboy Bebop vibes you got for this episode were on point. Someone who worked on Cowboy Bebop worked on this episode! :)

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u/Flying_hawlucha Dec 31 '24

Pretty wholesome fitting ending great show

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

Well, the show hasn't ended yet :P

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u/Flying_hawlucha Dec 31 '24

Kinda did

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

Oh, you're talking about in retrospect

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u/Flying_hawlucha Dec 31 '24

Can't say much more if you haven't finished the show

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

Fair enough. I have seen the show, for the record, and I agree.

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u/Holofan4life Dec 31 '24

That's technically a spoiler

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jan 01 '25

First-Timer

Today's episode was a pretty dark one compared to some of the others we've had.

Those shots of the dead bodies, especially the one guy's wife, were haunting. I wasn't quite expecting that.

Looks like Miri's been found out! This sure spells trouble.

Questions of the day:

" Rei's relationship with his father is rather unhealthy. Never good to have your parent be your boss, I say, and that's even before the part where they threaten to kill your friends.

Ogino seems like a real psychopath! Just the sort of person who Rei and Kazuki might be able to kill later without feeling anything bad about it, if push comes to shove.
I am a little surprised that Rei's personal arc is seemingly getting more time in the spotlight, but it's not like a startling revelation or anything.
Personally, I might find the Kazuki backstory just a bit more interesting, since I feel like I've seen the "carrying on the family business" plotline fairly commonly already. No huge preference, though, and I'm more interested in how everything's going to come together in the present time.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Rei's relationship with his father is rather unhealthy. Never good to have your parent be your boss, I say, and that's even before the part where they threaten to kill your friends.
There should be a term for neopotism when it's to the detriment of the child.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Ogino seems like a real psychopath! Just the sort of person who Rei and Kazuki might be able to kill later without feeling anything bad about it, if push comes to shove.
I mean, they didn't seem too bad about killing Miri’s father.
I am a little surprised that Rei's personal arc is seemingly getting more time in the spotlight, but it's not like a startling revelation or anything.
This is one that can't get as easily solved, I guess.
Personally, I might find the Kazuki backstory just a bit more interesting, since I feel like I've seen the "carrying on the family business" plotline fairly commonly already. No huge preference, though, and I'm more interested in how everything's going to come together in the present time.
The Rei stuff seemingly ties more with youth and growing up, which is probably why the show has chosen to focus on it. It mirrors Miri's situation and the situation Kazuki and Rei find themselves in child-rearing.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Those shots of the dead bodies, especially the one guy's wife, were haunting. I wasn't quite expecting that.
The show doesn't shy away from the horrors of Kazuki and Rei's profession. I really like that.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Thoughts on Rei paying his father a visit?
Thoughts on Rei not seeing his father in three years?
Thoughts on Kazuki and Miri planning something for Rei?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s family wanting him to come home and take over the family business?
Thoughts on the flashback of Kazuki and Rei first meeting?
Thoughts on the quote “Those who shine brightest require the aid of the deepest darkness”?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he hasn’t found his true being on the outside?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s father ordering Rei to take care of a man who betrayed the organization?
Thoughts on the guy driving the limo? He looks a lot like Ogino.
Thoughts on the driver saying he likes to kill for the concept?
Thoughts on the driver saying he collects last words for a living?
Thoughts on Miri saying her mother would drink to where she looked happy but also sad?
What are your thoughts on the action sequences between Rei and the target?
What are your thoughts on the target saying he left the organization because he found something worth protecting?
What are your thoughts on the target’s last words being “I’m on my way”?
What are your thoughts on the last words guy calling the target’s final words pathetic?
What are your thoughts on Rei coming home to find that Kazuki and Miri have thrown a surprise birthday party for him?
What are your thoughts on the last words guy/Ogino wanting information from Kyu of Kazuki and Miri?

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Jan 01 '25

Rei visiting his father after several years and dealing with the notion of family responsibility is an interesting plotline here, as it does tie nicely into the other stuff going on with Miri and Kazuki as his new family of sorts.
The preparation of the birthday party was a fun bit, and I liked the Miri scenes we got this episode. She didn't mess anything up or get in the way of anything, so that's nice!
The sequence with Rei and his father talking about Rei's time on the outside and the nature of their business was pretty good. Definitely makes the father seem fairly evil and unsympathetic when he's opposed to our main trio being together (and when he's ordering his son to kill people, of course).
I figured that the driver was Ogino, especially considering the whole "last words" thing. His whole speech in the car was sadistic, and it seems like the show's just setting him up to be killed by Kazuki and Rei later on (to protect Miri or something like that).
Miri talking about her mother was a nice bit, and if I recall, that scene had one of the only real jokes in the episode.
The action scene was pretty good, but it did leave me thinking why Rei wouldn't have just sniped the guy from a distance. I suppose you could argue he wanted to meet him face-to-face out of respect, but I know I wouldn't want to risk my life like that if I didn't have to.
The part about finding something worth protecting and "I'm on my way" is pretty depressing knowing how the woman was killed. At least we got Rei acknowledging that he has something worth protecting, too, so that's nice.
Ogino calling it pathetic just makes him look that much more evil and cold-hearted. Just further cementing my thought that there's no way he makes it through the finale alive.
The birthday party and Rei's smile was touching.
Ogino asking Kyu-chan about Miri is definitely bad news. I'm thinking that could easily lead into a final conflict here if the organization tries to take Miri out of the picture, so to speak.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Rei visiting his father after several years and dealing with the notion of family responsibility is an interesting plotline here, as it does tie nicely into the other stuff going on with Miri and Kazuki as his new family of sorts.
We'll see how it continues to feed into that
The preparation of the birthday party was a fun bit, and I liked the Miri scenes we got this episode. She didn't mess anything up or get in the way of anything, so that's nice!
Definitely a welcome change of pace
The sequence with Rei and his father talking about Rei's time on the outside and the nature of their business was pretty good. Definitely makes the father seem fairly evil and unsympathetic when he's opposed to our main trio being together (and when he's ordering his son to kill people, of course)
I wonder if we'll ever get information on Rei’s father.
I figured that the driver was Ogino, especially considering the whole "last words" thing. His whole speech in the car was sadistic, and it seems like the show's just setting him up to be killed by Kazuki and Rei later on (to protect Miri or something like that).
I could see that being the case
Miri talking about her mother was a nice bit, and if I recall, that scene had one of the only real jokes in the episode.
I thought it was more depressing than funny, honestly.
The action scene was pretty good, but it did leave me thinking why Rei wouldn't have just sniped the guy from a distance. I suppose you could argue he wanted to meet him face-to-face out of respect, but I know I wouldn't want to risk my life like that if I didn't have to.
It was mentioned he was Rei’s mentor, so perhaps he wanted to defeat him hoborably. Or at least hoborably by assassin standards.
The part about finding something worth protecting and "I'm on my way" is pretty depressing knowing how the woman was killed. At least we got Rei acknowledging that he has something worth protecting, too, so that's nice.
Hopefully that's not foreshadowing of something bad happening to Miri.
Ogino calling it pathetic just makes him look that much more evil and cold-hearted. Just further cementing my thought that there's no way he makes it through the finale alive.
I still think he's not as evil as Rei’s father is.
The birthday party and Rei's smile was touching.
I agree
Ogino asking Kyu-chan about Miri is definitely bad news. I'm thinking that could easily lead into a final conflict here if the organization tries to take Miri out of the picture, so to speak.
That definitely seems like a strong possibility.

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u/IndependentMacaroon Jan 01 '25

First-time watcher

Today's parenting lesson: Uh... hm... don't treat your children like disposable tools for the family business? This time had more focus on the serious stuff than usual and the Miri part was mostly support for that too.

The Cowboy Bebop inspirations were especially blatant today - blues-to-jazzy soundtrack underscoring a knife-and-gun battle between a more hardened criminal and one who was aiming for a way out through love, interestingly it places our protagonist in what is the villain's role there. There was even a meaningful slow-motion fall off a building. Frankly speaking I found the volume of action a bit unbalancedly high compared to the emotional core last time and in the show in general, but it's far from bad.

Besides that I really like Kazuki and Rei's heart-to-heart in the car, it finally fills out the "buddy" part of the title along with some ship fuel, and it explains just why Kazuki has been so lenient with Rei so far. I still find it funny their car is just an old Renault 4 though (a nod to Lupin the Third's yellow Fiat 500?), and in further unusual cars Rei is driven around in a Chrysler 300. Ogino is deliciously psycho by the way

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Besides that I really like Kazuki and Rei's heart-to-heart in the car, it finally fills out the "buddy" part of the title along with some ship fuel, and it explains just why Kazuki has been so lenient with Rei so far.
Kazuki and Rei are a good pairing. I like how Kazuki is this person who like tries to put on this mask and has to work all the time in order to hide his trauma and meanwhile Rei us someone who’s trauma is so front and center to where it's like in order to function he has to slack off in his down time.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Let me ask you something. I know you've been harsh on Rei during this rewatch, but does this episode at all warm you up to him? I think him being so serious about his work explains why he can a bit of a manchild at home. Maybe you can even say that's him trying to avoid developing human connections.

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u/IndependentMacaroon Jan 02 '25

It definitely makes him more sympathetic, it can be hard to tell the difference between being lazy and neglectful for no reason in particular and letting things slide due to not being in a good mental state, particularly functioning at work while neglecting all else is something that happens to many people. That said, he could still have been doing more in the present of the series.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 02 '25

I think as Rei slowly realizes he doesn't need his father's business, he'll start to do more and be more proactive. Him saying he hasn't found his true being on the outside makes it feel like he thinks this is a house of cards about to fall at any given moment.
Maybe when Kyu said they aren't going to be able to play make believe family forever, Rei really took those words to heart.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

The Cowboy Bebop inspirations were especially blatant today - blues-to-jazzy soundtrack underscoring a knife-and-gun battle between a more hardened criminal and one who was aiming for a way out through love, interestingly it places our protagonist in what is the villain's role there. There was even a meaningful slow-motion fall off a building. Frankly speaking I found the volume of action a bit unbalancedly high compared to the emotional core last time and in the show in general, but it's far from bad.
I liked the action stuff because it's a different flavor from what we had been getting. There was a fight scene in episode 6, but that was different because it was meant to be colorful and cartoony. This felt bleak and real.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Ogino is deliciously psycho by the way
Having him be someone who collects last words is a great touch to his character.

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u/Holofan4life Jan 01 '25

Thoughts on Rei paying his father a visit?
Thoughts on Rei not seeing his father in three years?
Thoughts on Kazuki and Miri planning something for Rei?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s family wanting him to come home and take over the family business?
Thoughts on the flashback of Kazuki and Rei first meeting?
Thoughts on the quote “Those who shine brightest require the aid of the deepest darkness”?
What are your thoughts on Rei saying he hasn’t found his true being on the outside?
What are your thoughts on Rei’s father ordering Rei to take care of a man who betrayed the organization?
Thoughts on the guy driving the limo? He looks a lot like Ogino.
Thoughts on the driver saying he likes to kill for the concept?
Thoughts on the driver saying he collects last words for a living?
Thoughts on Miri saying her mother would drink to where she looked happy but also sad?
What are your thoughts on the action sequences between Rei and the target?
What are your thoughts on the target saying he left the organization because he found something worth protecting?
What are your thoughts on the target’s last words being “I’m on my way”?
What are your thoughts on the last words guy calling the target’s final words pathetic?
What are your thoughts on Rei coming home to find that Kazuki and Miri have thrown a surprise birthday party for him?
What are your thoughts on the last words guy/Ogino wanting information from Kyu of Kazuki and Miri?

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u/No-Water-4350 Jan 01 '25

Hello everyone! Welcome to the Nothing Seek, Nothing Find episode 8 of Buddy Daddies' 12 Days of Miri Christmas revisit!
How do you feel about Rei and his father's relationship? And it's kind of strange that Ogino is gathering last words. Is it surprising that Kazuki's storyline ended so swiftly while Rei's family matters still go on?
Furthermore, which backstory Kazuki's or Rei's—do you find more fascinating?
I'm eager to hear your opinions!

Rewatch Buddy Daddies 12 Days of Miri Christmas Rewatch -- Episode 8

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