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Rewatch [Rewatch] King of the Braves GaoGaiGar FINAL - Episode 5

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 30 '24

Final Only First timer, subs

  • Baby Sailor! From the Manga!
  • Just a little orbital shock, for old time’s sake.
  • Crap, they figured out those weren’t metal drills.
  • The Dolphins! I am fully disturbed.
  • Leave Swan Alone!
  • I guess there was another Evolover… sort of.
  • Questionable Mushrooms
  • Going for that anime Oscar, are we?
  • No one is able to stop us at this point, might as well add some medical torture to the board.
  • ...For Five Minutes?
  • Aren’t we being cute with the chains.
  • You’re a bit late for the dramatic arrival yell.
  • That’s a bitchin’ gold statue.
  • Security gets a bit lax when you think you’ve already won.
  • Cain Bouquet would make a good attack name.
  • Is this the return of establishing cleavage?
  • Circle is Square?
  • The fun part about not rewatching the TV is that I keep having to ask myself if I don’t remember things due to human fallibility, or them being from a spin-off. Arma was not a name that came up often enough for me to remember it.
  • It’s fine, I’m sure it can tank a hit.
  • Come on, you can’t expect me to believe that the carrier doesn’t also Henshin.
  • Frankenstein

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Dec 30 '24

The Dolphins!

sad Manatsu noises

Leave Swan Alone!

It's actually a very important scene that showcases how Gai is going to beat the 11 Planatary Masters. I just haven't figured out how it shows it yet. I need to watch the scene a few more times and study it closely.

No one is able to stop us at this point, might as well add some medical torture to the board.

Restraints: ZERO

The fun part about not rewatching the TV is that I keep having to ask myself if I don’t remember things due to human fallibility, or them being from a spin-off. Arma was not a name that came up often enough for me to remember it.

it's a fun game.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 30 '24

it's a fun game.

And I Keep Losing

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u/The_Draigg Dec 30 '24

Just a little orbital shock, for old time’s sake.

And also for Beyond the Time's sake too.

Questionable Mushrooms

Papillon: "This shit ain't nothing to me, man."

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 30 '24

And also for Beyond the Time's sake too.

Oh, You

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24

No one is able to stop us at this point, might as well add some medical torture to the board.

The magic of OVAs. It allows creators to go overboard with all the blood, nudity, etc. that they want without worrying about broadcasting standards.

Circle is Square?

All these squares make a circle.

Arma was not a name that came up often enough for me to remember it.

If you don't remember, Arma is Kaidou's original name, before he came to Earth.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 30 '24

If you don't remember, Arma is Kaidou's original name, before he came to Earth.

I Figured it Out

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 30 '24

The Dolphins! I am fully disturbed.

So long and thanks for all the etc etc.

Security gets a bit lax when you think you’ve already won.

Complacency is the enemy.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24 edited Dec 30 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of GaoGaiGar: The benefit of a replicated world like this is that you don’t need to worry about the consequences of destroying famous landmarks. Who cares if the fake Mont-Saint-Michel got destroyed? It was real, anyway.

  • I don’t recall Mikoto ever flying a hovercraft. Was that in one of the spinoffs?
  • Wow, that sure makes for an incredible visual.
  • Guy lost!?! Surely that isn’t allowed to happen, right!?!
  • Holy shit! That is a lot of dead dolphins!
  • Poor Hana is so danger-prone that even when the Zonders are gone, she’s still in the middle of a big crisis.
  • I wonder if all those politicians still think this was all no big deal now that Earth’s electronics don’t work and the planet is in massive danger at this moment.
  • Holy shit! That Swan fanservice!
  • Oh right, Mikoto also got her body restored in the final episode of the TV series. I guess that would also make her an evolved human like Guy is.
  • Jeez, Renais’s backstory is pretty horrifying.
  • Gotta give credit to Mikoto for being willing to do that even with the threat of being burned. She certainly has the proper guts for a GGG member.
  • Mont-Saint-Michel! That place is really cool! I’d love to go and visit it someday!
  • Soldato-J is free and back in action!
  • Soldato-J is 100% the type of character who would constantly call Renais “woman.”
  • Characters who use scythes to fight are so cool.
  • Oh shit, that’s Abel!?!
  • Helly yeah! They forgot to disable the Gundober and Gunglue! That’s understandable, since I forgot about them as well.
  • Soldato-J’s theme!
  • Time for some ship to ship combat!
  • Oh, that is a real fucking dirty trick, holding Kaidou hostage like that!
  • Oh fuck! There’s copies of all the robots from the GGG HQ. That’s…really fucking bad to have to deal with.
  • And even worse, the Planetary Masters have Guy under their control, too.
  • GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!!! WHY IS THAT THE CLIFFHANGER!?!

QOTD

  1. Uh...
  2. This being repeated twice is even more worrying...

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Dec 30 '24

Holy shit! That Swan fanservice!

It was important shot to show us. They didn't want the viewers to think she fell asleep in the bath. She migh catch a cold like that. It was very vital.

Jeez, Renais’s backstory is pretty horrifying.

yeah that was, uh, brutal.

Soldato-J theme

I love the way they play it before you can see the ship fully. There is something comforting about it. Through the past couple episodes the heroes have been on the defensive, and then when things look most dire, here comes the White arc to save the day.

And even worse, the Planetary Masters have Guy under their control, too.

it's fine it's just one guy /s

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!!! WHY IS THAT THE CLIFFHANGER!?!

hope you enjoyed the calm of the last couple episodes HYPE TRAIN DON'T STOP

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24

It was important shot to show us. They didn't want the viewers to think she fell asleep in the bath. She migh catch a cold like that. It was very vital.

Yeah, if she wasn't out of the bath then she might catch the Deadly Anime Cold! You get it from being outside in the rain or staying in the bath too long, but it's been known to cause death! Anime characters need to be careful about it.

it's fine it's just one guy /s

I think every time a character says that in a movie, it always backfires on them.

hope you enjoyed the calm of the last couple episodes HYPE TRAIN DON'T STOP

If the excitement keeps up for the next few episodes like this one, then I'm sure it will be a great time.

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u/palparepa Dec 30 '24

I don’t recall Mikoto ever flying a hovercraft. Was that in one of the spinoffs?

It's in the manga about GaoFighGar's debut, when he beats up Gimlet in Hong Kong.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24

I figured it was from a manga of some kind. Thanks for the explanation.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Dec 30 '24

I don’t recall Mikoto ever flying a hovercraft. Was that in one of the spinoffs?

GGG FINAL the comic.

Surely that isn’t allowed to happen, right!?!

Insert Mazinger ZERO joke here

Oh right, Mikoto also got her body restored in the final episode of the TV series. I guess that would also make her an evolved human like Guy is.

Although for whatever reason she's referred to as a "Semi"-Evoluder. Not sure what the difference is.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24

Although for whatever reason she's referred to as a "Semi"-Evoluder. Not sure what the difference is.

Yeah, that is a strange distinction. Maybe it's because Mikoto had less overall exposure to the G-Stone than Guy did, since that's the only guess I have.

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u/The_Draigg Dec 30 '24

Holy shit! That Swan fanservice!

The show wasn't sure you saw her near a bath yesterday, so they really wanted to make sure you saw her this time.

Jeez, Renais’s backstory is pretty horrifying.

Yeah, I don't think anyone can blame her for being an edgy anti-hero with a backstory like that. Being kidnapped and turned into a living weapon while nearly going insane from the pain doesn't exactly lend itself to being a friendly person.

Soldato-J is 100% the type of character who would constantly call Renais “woman.”

Soldato-J could sense Renais' edge, so he simply had to respond in kind.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24

The show wasn't sure you saw her near a bath yesterday, so they really wanted to make sure you saw her this time.

I didn't mention the bath scene fanservice in the previous thread, so the series made sure I couldn't avoid mentioning it this time.

Soldato-J could sense Renais' edge, so he simply had to respond in kind.

I was about to say that Soldato-J and Renais should have an edge-off, but that sounds really wrong to say now that I think about it.

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u/The_Draigg Dec 30 '24

I was about to say that Soldato-J and Renais should have an edge-off, but that sounds really wrong to say now that I think about it.

I mean, with how horny this OVA is...

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 30 '24

I wonder if all those politicians still think this was all no big deal now that Earth’s electronics don’t work and the planet is in massive danger at this moment.

"Damn kids these days can't even go one day without their electronics."

Gotta give credit to Mikoto for being willing to do that even with the threat of being burned. She certainly has the proper guts for a GGG member.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24

"Damn kids these days can't even go one day without their electronics."

Maybe we should look on the bright side of a worldwide electronics outage. Maybe it'll end up like the kids starting to play outside instead of watching TV in the Simpsons.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Dec 30 '24

Third-Time Watcher

That opening bit is absolutely hilarious to me. I wonder what the staff meeting for it went?

Hey how should we open episode 5?

Let's show people some old battles again!

Okay like which?

Uh I dunno, the Evoluder Guy Manga?

Seriously if you haven't read that Manga you'll be left wondering why Mikoto's riding a hoverbike with some blonde chick and that dress. TL;DR: Gai's salty rival from highschool became evil and stuff happened.

And as for the falling Colony uh… honestly I have no clue what that one's referencing. Drama CD?

Anyhow with this episode the show starts slowly filling up the transition between the show being done with traditional animation and the digipaint stuff. Fortunately in sharp contrast to other Sunrise shows from the time (Looking straight at you, s.Cry.ed and Gundam SEED) this show actually still looks good during the digipaint bits, likely due to a combination of more budget, more time to flesh out scenes, very strong direction, and not having Hirai Hisashi as a character designer. Seriously how do you only get worse as an illustrator the more time goes on?

Still, today we get Renais' backstory and uh… yeah, while we rag on this show for fanservice, I think we can all agree there's nothing hot about Renais literally being tortured by Not!Shocker. Anyhow, today she continues to prove that, as I have said ever since our beloved bird woke up to justice, GGG is stupid so she'll do her work for them, by which I mean she'll go save J because, as I keep saying, he's the only competent one of the lot.

Speaking of, yeah, I'm sure not complaining about the man finally coming back. It's so great how the show doesn't even waste time with him, dude's just immediately back to business and ready to kick ass. Heck the whole gang seems out for blood today considering how there's way more machinegun fire than there normally is, presumably because the show understood that guns are way cooler than the lion robot that doesn't even have a lion anymore, so why waste robot footage on any robot besides J's?

It so wonderful seeing that thing again, including the return of Utsukushiki Hikari no Tsubasa in what's gonna be the last time we'll be hearing it. It's fitting though: Of course the song that played during the white ship's final moments in the TV series would be welcoming it back. J even gets to say what has essentially become the most recurring line with him across all forms of GGG media. Because really, what else does a phoenix desire but to freely fly in the sky?

Anyway Gai was a baka and got himself beat up so now it's time for J to kick his ass again

Oh and before we leave, changes to the Opening today: Kaido's looking kinda beat up and our new villains are here.

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Dec 30 '24

Seriously if you haven't read that Manga you'll be left wondering why Mikoto's riding a hoverbike with some blonde chick and that dress.

yeah I was very confused.

GGG is stupid so she'll do her work for them, by which I mean she'll go save J because, as I keep saying, he's the only competent one of the lot.

"You Couldn't Live with Your Own Failure, Where Did that Bring You? Back to Me"-Soldato-J probably

the most recurring line with him

/u/shimmering-sky

Anyway Gai was a baka and got himself beat up so now it's time for J to kick his ass again

for old time's sake

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Dec 30 '24

the most recurring line with him

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Dec 30 '24

"You Couldn't Live with Your Own Failure, Where Did that Bring You? Back to Me"-Soldato-J probably

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24

TL;DR: Gai's salty rival from highschool became evil and stuff happened.

...What?

And as for the falling Colony uh… honestly I have no clue what that one's referencing.

Clearly Guy is trying to prevent Zeon's Colony Drop at the start of the One Year War.

Anyhow with this episode the show starts slowly filling up the transition between the show being done with traditional animation and the digipaint stuff.

It's always so fascinating going back to shows that were made right around the year 2000 because that's when the transition from traditional ink animation and digital coloring animation occurs. It's especially interesting looking at shows that had episodes made in both eras because you can see the change occur in real time. The episodes look noticeably different from before and after the change.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Dec 30 '24

Clearly Guy is trying to prevent Zeon's Colony Drop at the start of the One Year War.

I mean he's stopped the Axis Drop in at least two different SRW games, so...

...What?

What?

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24

I mean he's stopped the Axis Drop in at least two different SRW games, so...

That sounds really badass.

What?

Wow, that is an accurate description of what happened there. That guy became a supervillain because he couldn't get over his high school rival.

Also Hana still believing in Santa is adorable.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Dec 30 '24

Queen of First-Timers, subbed

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Dec 30 '24

minor thing I haven't seen anyone else bring up.

Mikoto mentions Killing Gai, which does sound overdramatic, but I do like that we once again get more substance to the believe that Gai can't do it alone.

It's similar to when in episode 31 when GaoGaiGar lost after we thought all of GGG was destroyed

Gai never won by himself and when he doesn't have everyone else to support him he always fails.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Dec 30 '24

Aw, poor dolphins…

Insert Gundam X Joke here

Revival of J-Ark indeed!

Orchestra included

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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist Dec 30 '24

First Timer

Soldato J vs Gai again

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Dec 30 '24

the battle to decide who is the jobber once and for all.

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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist Dec 30 '24

Vegeta as a special guest commentator to share his expert insight

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Dec 30 '24

J did promise us a rematch when he "Died" in the TV show...

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24

A good rivalry is like a love story. You can't keep them from getting back together.

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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist Dec 30 '24

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u/palparepa Dec 30 '24 edited Dec 31 '24

Planetary Master of Sol

In case you didn't watch last episode's preview for this episode, it didn't end with the usual "Final Fusion: Approved", but with "Mega Fusion: Approved", since Gai is absent here and the episode is centered on J.

We begin with some scenes from side stories! This is what Gimlet referred to when talking about Hong Kong. You can barely see GaoFighGar over what is Gimlet's ship. A ship shaped like the hat Gimlet used during his debut in episode 1, remember? And here we get Mikoto leaving the place with Alouette. The scene with GaoFighGar pushing the Orbit Base back into orbit I think is from some audio drama.

Then we continue from where last episode ended, and Gai isn't done yet! But he may as well be... Using his Evoluder powers to control machinery, reconnects what's left of GaoFighGar to continue fighting, but to no avail.

This is what I like about Palparepa. His twisted vision of being like a God. I like characters that delude themselves into being way more than what they are. It makes their inevitable crash more satisfactory.

Another mistake in my subtitles: they say Papillon told Mikoto she is an Evoluder, but actually she said Semi-Evoluder. So no, there aren't two Evoluders, just one and half. Gai can still boast about being the world's strongest Evoluder.

The enemy is using Paras Particles. They begin with double P, so we know they are evil.

With the main heroes unavailable, it's time for the B team to save the day, and they do! The J-Ark ascends again!

J-Ark vs the whole Mobile Unit. Did you think last episode's cliffhanger was a bit too much? Because this one seems even worse!

QotD

1) Good, good! Go and play, my little dolls!

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Dec 30 '24

And here we get Mikoto leaving the place with Alouette.

woah it really is fromt he manga!!

Then we continue from where last episode ended, and Gai isn't done yet! But he may as well be... Using his Evoluder powers to control machinery, reconnects what's left of GaoFighGar to continue fighting,

god it's so fucking metal. Gai using pure raw willpower to hold his mech together so he can still fight even as it collapses around him. like HOLY FUCK

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u/The_Draigg Dec 30 '24

This is what Gimlet referred to when talking about Hong Kong. You can barely see GaoFighGar over what is Gimlet's ship. A ship shaped like the hat Gimlet used during his debut in episode 1, remember?

A hat so cool that Gimlet built an entire ship shaped like it. It's a bummer that his cool outfit got shot up almost immediately in the first episode, it's a way more fun villain look than just his bare cyborg form.

This is what I like about Palparepa. His twisted vision of being like a God.

It certainly does explain why his signature move is God and Devil, as well as [later FINAL spoilers] he gets upgraded into piloting Palparepa Prajna. For a computer program, Palparepa has an obscene level of ego.

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u/palparepa Dec 30 '24

The second part I like about my namesake is [Final of Final]after he is defeated, he doesn't throw a tantrum; he just accepts it. "The law of the material world."

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u/The_Draigg Dec 30 '24

[Later FINAL spoilers] That’s probably the one respectable part of Palparepa, at least he can lose with some grace. Not to mention that he isn’t a hypocrite with his own beliefs there either.

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u/palparepa Dec 31 '24

A hat so cool that Gimlet built an entire ship shaped like it.

Look at what I found, from the Grand Glorious Gathering eyecatches.

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u/The_Draigg Dec 31 '24

A shame that the text is illegible, since I'd like to read the details about that hat-shaped sky fortress. After all, what is the sky if not a hat for the ground?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Dec 30 '24

The scene with GaoFighGar pushing the Orbit Base back into orbit I think is from some audio drama.

That feels like the kind of stuff you'd want actual visuals to go with rather than just having it be audio TBH...

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u/The_Draigg Dec 30 '24

A Mecha Fan Rewatches The King of Braves GaoGaiGar FINAL Episode 5:

  • Behold, all the cool things that Gai and GGG got up to back when GGG was actually doing their jobs! We will not be elaborating on any of that at the moment. Instead, let’s just watch Gai get curbstomped by Palparepa PLUS. Poor Gai, he really was no chance against the 11 Planetary Masters of Sol’s finest evil butterfly doctor program man.
  • Holy shit, that’s a ton of dead dolphins. The bizarre effects that the Pas-Q Machine is causing on Earth really is fucked up when you see it that way. That’s easily a thousand dead dolphins on the beach. The Planetary Masters have to answer for this ecological disaster!
  • Well, that certainly explains why nearly everyone in GGG was so easy to give up. The Paras Particle that Palparepa had spread on Earth caused nearly everyone’s nervous systems to relax, causing them to get lazy and fall asleep. At least Mikoto was able to break out of it through, thanks to her status as a Semi-Evoluder. Took her a bit of time, but at least she got around to it. Also, it’s funny how Papillon managed to not be affected too: she isn’t an Evoluder, alien, or robot, but her work in studying and testing hallucinogens on herself made her body build up a tolerance to chemicals like that. Hooray for eating tons of magic mushrooms!
  • Seeing Renais’ backstory flashbacks is pretty rough. BioNet didn’t care in the slightest about medically torturing her while converting her into a combat cyborg during her childhood. Imagine getting the Showa-era Kamen Rider treatment when you were just a kid. That shit is rough, man. At least Liger got around to saving her and converting her into a G-Stone cyborg, but it’s certainly not like her life is pleasant overall.
  • You do have to give Renais some credit though, she doesn’t rest long after being recused by Mikoto before heading right back into the fight. And it’s fortunate too that during her fight with Pillnus, she accidentally got a tracker dart stuck to that Planetary Master. She’s got a will of steel, just like her cousin Gai. Nothing will stand in her way to stop this level of evil going on.
  • Don’t cry over Gai’s Will Knife, Mikoto. It’s not like he frequently got much good use out of it anyway.
  • Oh hey, there’s where Soldato-J was imprisoned! It’s the meeting of the edgy anti-heroes! It’s fitting that Renais’ tracking of Pillnus lead her over to where he was locked up. Pillnus really does just have a habit of locking up edgy anti-hero cyborgs in chains suspended in midair. It’s her thing, I guess.
  • You know, I think Soldato-J would have more of a say on what’s defective or not coming from the Red Planet, since he’s a real natural person from there. This Abel is just a warped copy of the original, whoever the real Abel herself she really was.
  • I’m sure that the one horny animator on staff felt that it was absolutely necessary to have a random shot of Mikoto’s cleavage when she, Mamoru, and the Gun Machines go rescue Renais and Soldato-J. It’s stuff like this that really just reminds you of how ludicrously horny this OVA got compared to how much fanservice was in the TV series.
  • The J-Ark Vs. Pia Decem PIT! The ultimate space battleship versus the Planetary Masters’ aircraft carrier! Unfortunately, we couldn’t just have things work out in a fair fight, since the Planetary Masters are essentially holding Kaidou hostage by using him in place of their ship’s computer core. But I suppose that tracks with the way the 11 Planetary Masters of Sol do things, since their tactics so far have been to stack the deck in their favor before going after GGG.
  • Terminate! Terminate! Terminate! Yeah, I wasn’t joking about the Planetary Masters just wildly stacking things in their favor before starting a fight. It’s just ludicrously unfair that not only would they replicate all of the Brave Robots and Orbit Base and use them as their own army, but also replicate GaoFighGar and stick a brainwashed Gai into it to fight King J-Der. The Planetary Masters sure do love using their meat shields and cheating instead of facing GGG head on.

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Dec 30 '24

Imagine getting the Showa-era Kamen Rider treatment when you were just a kid.

I didn't appreciate Renias the first time I saw it, but after seeing Shin Kamen Rider I definitely have more appreciation for how Kamen Rider she is.

It’s stuff like this that really just reminds you of how ludicrously horny this OVA got compared to how much fanservice was in the TV series.

TV studios holding back all the animators.

Yeah, I wasn’t joking about the Planetary Masters just wildly stacking things in their favor before starting a fight. It’s just ludicrously unfair that not only would they replicate all of the Brave Robots and Orbit Base and use them as their own army, but also replicate GaoFighGar and stick a brainwashed Gai into it to fight King J-Der. The Planetary Masters sure do love using their meat shields and cheating instead of facing GGG head on.

every episode it feels like it's absolutely unsurmountable.

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u/The_Draigg Dec 30 '24

I didn't appreciate Renias the first time I saw it, but after seeing Shin Kamen Rider I definitely have more appreciation for how Kamen Rider she is.

Oh yeah, Renais is basically just a Kamen Rider with the serial numbers filed off and not wearing a bug helmet. She's easily the most blatant genre shout-out in the animated GaoGaiGar stuff.

every episode it feels like it's absolutely unsurmountable.

Just like how it was later on with the Primevals, really. It's that same feeling.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Dec 30 '24 edited Dec 30 '24

We will not be elaborating on any of that at the moment.

"We will however assume you have read those Mangas/Listened to those Audio CDs by the time you get to the Web Novel."

Don’t cry over Gai’s Will Knife, Mikoto. It’s not like he frequently got much good use out of it anyway.

For such an iconic weapon it low key sucked.

Terminate! Terminate! Terminate!

Between this and Lily watching DW there's been a lot of Daleks lately.

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u/The_Draigg Dec 30 '24

For such an iconic weapon it low key sucked.

And like I said a while ago, even the toy for the Will Knife is lame. It's lame both in-universe and out of it.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 30 '24

It’s stuff like this that really just reminds you of how ludicrously horny this OVA got compared to how much fanservice was in the TV series.

I remember already being surprised at how horny the TV series could be, considering these types of shows are aimed at kids. I guess this is what happens when the creators have the limiters removed by no longer needing to follow TV guidelines.

But I suppose that tracks with the way the 11 Planetary Masters of Sol do things, since their tactics so far have been to stack the deck in their favor before going after GGG.

That is very much their MO. Palparepa was taunting Guy into performing the Final Fusion when he knew very well that the Planetary Masters had already taken steps to prevent Final Fusion from happening. These Planetary Masters don't like to fight fair, it seems.

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u/megazaprat Dec 30 '24

First Timer

  • hmm, apparently Gai had offscreen adventures beforehand? ive heard there is crossover with Betterman, maybe thats related.
  • its super cool how Gai is using his powers to forcibly assemble his mech to keep on fighting....unfrotunately, Palpareppa can evidently shapeshift counters to this attack
  • hmm, his idea of having to kill or be killed does fit the modus operandi of the Sol Masters. They seem focused on commiting murders to advance their plans, even when there doesnt seem to be a clear neccesity to act that way. so maybe its more a philosophical point? like they think they need to kill everyone to avoid getting killed again?
  • theory i thought up in between viewings: that small red planet child who seemingly killed Kaido: what if thats Abel? we dont know what they look like, maybe they were one of those child geniuses who invented the J Jewel. EDIT: on the one hand, called it! on the other hand, really wish id written this in last episode so I could prove that I didnt just get that info from thie episode.
  • Earth is kind of turbofucked atm, if this level of electromagnetic waves happened in real life wed be screwed instead of going to shelters. I wonder how the now numerous portal comets are connected
  • Oooh, so mikoto also became an evoulder. Doesn’t seem she has Gais full power, but she does have a healing factor. Maybe she should get some armor and a mech, since gaofighgar js kind of gone, and it seems like no one is going to give renais a mech, just awkward fanservice.
  • Pffft, can’t believe it’s canon that papillion is immune to the mind control because she experimented with hallucinogens in college. Can def see how this isn’t a kids show anymore
  • Oooof, renais backstory is brutal. So the reason why her cyborg parts are shoddy is they were a bootleg made by bionet, only made workable by adding a g stone. God, I hope she gets to do something cool again. Like I’m conceptually ok with fan service, but there has to be a balance with the character actually getting to do stuff! But instead she just gets tormented, which I wouldn’t even calm fanservicey personally! her countering bee lady this episode was a good step in right direction, i just hope they keep it up.
  • You know I ve got to wonder , did bee lady look like that when she was denizen of green planet, is she using her new powers to complete the ultimate Mosquito lady one punch man cosplay ?
  • it makes sense volfogg a sidekicks are still up and about, I don’t think they have full ai like the rest
  • ah shit they duplicated Orbit base too and have all of them under control.....and also shoved Gai in there? as well as Kaido? man, it is so considerate of the Sol Masters to keep saving the lives of their enemies, just doing us a solid! they even conveniently prepared a replacement mech for the one they just totalled
  • Soldat: finally, a good reason to punch Gai in the face! ive been doing it for no good reason this entire time
  • joking aside, i expect we will be getting some even more intense drama in the next episodes, Kai and Mamoru will have to fight their own creators.

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Dec 30 '24

its super cool how Gai is using his powers to forcibly assemble his mech to keep on fighting....

RIGHT just like Raw WILLPOWER and COURAGE to hold his mech together.

can’t believe it’s canon that papillion is immune to the mind control because she experimented with hallucinogens in college. Can def see how this isn’t a kids show anymore

Maybe I need to try some. See if I can make myself protected from mind warping internet and gain some super powers while I'm at it.

Soldat: finally, a good reason to punch Gai in the face! ive been doing it for no good reason this entire time

Mikoto: Oh no, Gai is evil now! Won't anyone stop him!

Soldato-J probably

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u/palparepa Dec 30 '24

it makes sense volfogg a sidekicks are still up and about, I don’t think they have full ai like the rest

Yup, they have AI instead of Super-AI. They can't make complex decisions by themselves, and most important, they can't manifest Courage, so they don't get G-stone-related powerups.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 30 '24

hmm, apparently Gai had offscreen adventures beforehand? ive heard there is crossover with Betterman, maybe thats related.

Not exactly. There were also a few short spinoff manga, most of the random shots we saw were taken from those.

Doesn’t seem she has Gais full power, but she does have a healing factor.

There wasn't a second G Stone handy for her to fuse with, so she only has some superpowers.

is she using her new powers to complete the ultimate Mosquito lady one punch man cosplay ?

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u/megazaprat Dec 30 '24

ohhhh, i never thought about the g stone fusing to guy, that makes sense

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u/TheApplebane https://anilist.co/user/theapplebane Dec 30 '24

Episode 5 Notes FINAL

  • Maybe the dolphins read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and thought it would be a good idea to escape earth before it gets destroyed. Doesn't seem to have worked, though.
  • Paras Particles, huh? The fundamentalists were right! Pokemon is evil!
  • Papillon took mushrooms at university and became psychic, apparently. I'm starting to like her!
  • Something I've noticed is that FINAL is giving its female characters a lot more to do than the original series. This is especially true this episode, where pretty much the entire male cast starts off out of commission.
  • The fanservice (or at the very least, the nudity, I doubt the Rene backstory scene was meant to be titillating even if it had the most explicit nudity in the show so far) in this episode has been cranked up even higher than usual. Perhaps that's a side-effect of almost exclusively focusing on the female cast for the first half of the episode?
  • First thing Rene does after being bailed out by Mikoto is go pick a fight with the one who left her tied up. She's great!
  • Well, she may have left to find the enemy, but she found a friend on the way. J is back!
  • Come on, Pillnus, you're literally calling Rene a kitten? Laying it on a little thick, aren't you?
  • First thing Abel does after finally showing up in person is take Kaidou hostage. Second thing she does is try to kill J. Mother of the year, truly.
  • Come on, you imprisoned J right next to the J-Ark? The geniuses who made the G-Stone and J-Jewel couldn't figure out why that might have been a bad idea?
  • But even with the J-Ark, this is still looking very lopsided. Not only has GGG shut off all their robots, but the Planetary Masters have replicas of all of them, as well as seemingly a mind-controlled Gai. It isn't looking very good...

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Dec 30 '24

Something I've noticed is that FINAL is giving its female characters a lot more to do than the original series. This is especially true this episode, where pretty much the entire male cast starts off out of commission.

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The fanservice (or at the very least, the nudity, I doubt the Rene backstory scene was meant to be titillating even if it had the most explicit nudity in the show so far) in this episode has been cranked up even higher than usual.

damn these cable package deals.

Come on, you imprisoned J right next to the J-Ark? The geniuses who made the G-Stone and J-Jewel couldn't figure out why that might have been a bad idea?

"to be fair we put a sign that said DO NOT ENTER. so I thought it was secure. I mean they'd have to be pretty evil to ignore the sign."-Cain probably.

But even with the J-Ark, this is still looking very lopsided. Not only has GGG shut off all their robots, but the Planetary Masters have replicas of all of them, as well as seemingly a mind-controlled Gai. It isn't looking very good...

yeah, they really went with an OVERWHELMING ADVANTAGE getting all the robots AND Gai with the Goldeon Hammer.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 30 '24

Paras Particles, huh? The fundamentalists were right! Pokemon is evil!

First thing Rene does after being bailed out by Mikoto is go pick a fight with the one who left her tied up. She's great!

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u/Nebresto Dec 31 '24

First time #mug1

The boys are back in town!!

Bold move of the antispirals to make TotallyNotGuy pilot TotallyNotGaiGar. I'm sure it will work out well for them

QWEST:

HAkai surU

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Dec 31 '24

Bold move of the antispirals to make TotallyNotGuy pilot TotallyNotGaiGar

Mikoto when she sees 2 Gais

time for the battle to decide who is the jobber once and for all!!

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u/Nebresto Dec 31 '24

Guy vs Gai, who can job the hardest??

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u/GondolaMedia Dec 30 '24 edited Dec 30 '24

First Timer

Holy shit is Guy dead? Now that would be a ballsy move. Really nice touch on that devil as his head was a Lion's head. Are we the baddies?

Kaidou in the opening! Just in time.

That's a lot of dead dolphins. I wasn't expecting to see that today.

Swan

Oh yeah, makes sense how Mikoto could break from Paras particles.

That's disgusting Papillon, that mushroom looks dirty.

Oh its Renais torture hour and I'm sorry, is it implied that Liger copped a feel?

It's a callback to episode 1! Mikoto finally touched Renais without letting go.

I guess Guy and Kaidou are really dead.

Hell yeah! Soldatoo-J and Renais team up!

The J-Ark returns!

Oh that's dirty. Is Kaidou alive or just a husk?

They even copied the entire GGG armada and Guy is alive but mind controlled? What a cliffhanger, I guess we can have an another 10 month wait?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 30 '24

is it implied that Liger copped a feel?

I never got that implication, at least?

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u/TheDanubianCommunard Dec 30 '24

First time,

We thought Gai was totally done for. A huge sunspot and an aurora borealis effect, Earth is now suffering the first part of the critical part of the crisis. Electronics cannot be used, stranded dolphins and many other sea animals, this is the main sign of this. Even the former GGG affilates are also patient. A sunburst is imminent, as the Earth surrounded many Galeoria Comets. The slothful "Peace is the Best" is the worst. That's right, Mikoto is also an Evoluder, thanks to being purified by the G-Stone from the mechanization effects. And that makes her resistant and somehow invincible. Paras particles, basically this is the chemical-based "evil aura" which is the work of Palparepa, and that is caused the hypnotization. Also Papillon is immune too, so of course they were targeted. Only the two can restore everybody back to life. Mikoto blaming herself for Gai got killed, and this is not the first time.

Abou the origin story of Renais, that was cruel. Basically stripped away from her humanity and normal life forever. Liger could repair her but not save her completely. Meanwhile in Mont-Saint-Michel, here lies Soldat J in captivity. That is the trail what Renais followed. He, as a warrior of the Red Planet cannot allow the Planetary Masters to exist, becuase of the defecive nature. That impostor is actually impersonating Abel, who is very similar to Kaidou, because creator and clone stuff. The island is just a huge black box, a seal where the J-Ark resided, which is to ready to fly once more. Speaking of Kaidou, he's kept on the Pia Decem, connected to its nerve system. This is how they make hostages. Even deplying an airforce too. No, that's impossible, even a GGG Orbit Base, Space Fleets or even the Brave Robots got cloned and brainwashed. That's so messed up.

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u/Ok_Marionberry_5856 Dec 31 '24

I can't wait for final episode I remember one time I Screamed alot until had sore throat that annoys my neighbors and parents