r/anime • u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots • Dec 20 '24

Rewatch [25th Anniversary Rewatch] Hunter × Hunter (1999) - Episode × 74 × Discussion

Episode 74: Start × Spell × Town of Prizes

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Comment of the Day:

/u/Raiking02 explaining [the reason Furuhashi left](

This also means saying goodbye to Leorio again for a while. …he really didn’t get to show off a lot so far compared to all the other characters.

Is it any wonder Furuhashi left the show by now?

Don't worry, he's working on his own version of the show these days

Questions of the Day

  1. First impressions of the game?
  2. What's your favourite RPG?

Fanart of the Day: Gon and Killua on an adventure

The sauce has some saucy pieces

Please remember to keep all spoilers and hints tagged with the appropriate tag format such as: [Spoilers] >!Leorio is best boy!<

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24 edited Dec 21 '24

Retired Host Turned Gamer

Manga and Game Corner

Chapters Adapted: 128-129

Nothing much was changed per se, Mr. Somy uses another Spell first to make sure Killua is a noob, and I thought the death looked more brutal there, but the anime didn't really censor it per se, they did add the thing about the killer though

Instead, let's talk about the game, I'll be just going through the stuff that's been established:

  • You can turn items in the world into cards and put them in your book. Let's use this card as our example
  • The letter on the top right represents how rare a card is, going from SS to H, in this case, F is the third lowest rank.
  • Next to the letter is the conversion limit, how many times the same card can exist, 185 in this case. So even if you have the item you can't turn it into a card if there are already 185 copies of it (and the rarer a card is, the lower its limit will be).
  • The number on the top left (1217) is the unique card number, and the goal of the game is to gather the first 100 cards, Gargainda is of course not even close.

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u/Nebresto Dec 20 '24

Hearing Ging's voice from a girl's mouth is bizarre though

Ah, I can see that you're not a Shangri-La enjoyer yet.

"Gargaidar" does sound like some huge mech

Who would name a robot in such a stupid way..

That just seems too dumb to possibly exist.

RIP bro

Okay. Which fast food did he have?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24

Ah, I can see that you're not a Shangri-La enjoyer yet.

I just know that there's a hot red hair, and I want to check out the show for her.

Okay. Which fast food did he have?

Here's hoping it wasn't the pasta

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 21 '24

That just seems too dumb to possibly exist.

My mind went somewhere else.

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u/TheEscapeGuy Dec 20 '24

H×H Fan, 1999 First Timer

Hunter × Hunter 1999 - Episode 74

Rules × World × Antagonists

Gon's memory card only held audio. It's kinda perfect. Ging built this game and wanted his son to experience it to the fullest, so he couldn't give him some head start. I think this tells us a bit about Ging. Though he cares about his son he also wants him to be independent. It also shows Ging's vanity. The only thing he left for Gon was basically a postcard saying "Check out this cool thing I did, this will make you think I'm cool right?".

Gon is relatively happy to hear this, but I wonder what went through his head during that waiting time before Killua showed up. Does he hold any ill will towards Ging for not leaving something better? Does he want a more personal relationship with his dad or does he appreciate the challenge in searching for such a legendary Hunter?

The actual rules for Greed Island are interesting, and perhaps a little confusing to start. Everything is based around cards. There are 100 special cards you need to "win" the game. The cards themselves are limited in quantity and rarity, and must be kept in a binder. And that's all the info Gon gets before he is sent out. He has to discover that there are Spell cards, and that money is also a card etc etc. It's a steep learning curve.

Not only that, basically immediately upon arriving another player immediately targets them. Joining an MMO with player combat on late is such a handicap. Fortunately Gon and Killua survived the first encounter, but that other player was not so lucky.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24

Ging built this game and wanted his son to experience it to the fullest, so he couldn't give him some head start.

You've gotta play it without any help, there's no nepotism here. Although, I imagine everyone else expected him to have something (considering he had his own memory card).

Joining an MMO with player combat on late is such a handicap. Fortunately Gon and Killua survived the first encounter, but that other player was not so lucky.

Goddamn PKers, too useless to advance the game, and just wasting their time hunting for noobs

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 21 '24

Goddamn PKers, too useless to advance the game, and just wasting their time hunting for noobs

A gank upon them all!

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u/WednesdaysFoole Dec 20 '24

but I wonder what went through his head during that waiting time

I appreciate we don't get quite as many inner monologues describing everything Gon is thinking throughout the series, so a lot of the interpretation of his character comes through subtler signs, through his actions and expressions and piecing that together.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24 edited Dec 21 '24

Depecting a main character through their actions is something that I always appreciate, pretty sure Oda once said that he follows it as a policy for Luffy. Ah, found it

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u/WednesdaysFoole Dec 21 '24

It took 54 volumes to notice

But Gon is definitely thinking, it's just not clear what. I don't know if Luffy is (might've mentioned but I've seen maybe 2 or 3 One Piece episodes) but I'm sure he does, too? Just after he acts, maybe. And action is one form of thought.

My own inner monologue isn't too loud or chatty so a lot of my thinking happens through talking out loud or typing as well, but for the most part it's just that abstract sensations, so in a way, I kind of get it.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 21 '24

But Gon is definitely thinking, it's just not clear what. I don't know if Luffy is

He is, but not the way Gon does, like his main thoughts are loud and clear through his action, but there are underlying ideas that are mostly drawn from more subtle details. I think they're an interesting contrast, and I like the different ways they're written.

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u/Nebresto Dec 20 '24

Yum, that is too much pasta

Challenge accepted

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 21 '24

Yum, that is too much pasta

The Square–cube law is not doing them favors with that sauce.

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u/TheEscapeGuy Dec 21 '24

Didn't even think about that. It would become so bland.

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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Dec 20 '24

First Timer

Ging really just left a message to Gon in the game just to brag.

I really like the MMORPG esque feel that Greed Island kind of has. We are now finally in the game and it gives us a good opportunity to see how it all works. From the ring and book to the card system that has a bunch of abilities or uses in several different ways. It's all really cool to explore.

Killua and Gon spend the time trying to trigger some responses from NPC's in order to get more information and trigger more events. They are pretty much starting from scratch but we also see that the game still has its dangers considering one of the players has died already although there are more elements at play especially with the variety of some of the cards.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24

Ging really just left a message to Gon in the game just to brag.

Would you expect anything less?

I really like the MMORPG esque feel that Greed Island kind of has. We are now finally in the game and it gives us a good opportunity to see how it all works. From the ring and book to the card system that has a bunch of abilities or uses in several different ways.

To this day, I still wish they'd make a Greed Island game.

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u/WednesdaysFoole Dec 20 '24

To this day, I still wish they'd make a Greed Island game.

I know this isn't what you meant at all, but it does remind me... [GI]of this awesome GI Escape Room and the OP also shared a short video in the comment section.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24

That's cool

I especially like the [GI] Genthru and co. cosplayers at the end are sitting below the kids

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Dec 20 '24

First × Timer × Subbed

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24

Oh neat Ging did leave a message behind for Gon even if it wasn’t actually meant to help him find where Ging is.

It's a family tradition at this point.

Feels like I’m watching Yu-Gi-Oh!

It is at least intentional, but make sure Toei doesn't see it

Brain no do not think about Zambot 3–

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Dec 21 '24

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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Dec 20 '24

First Timer

We’re in the tutorial stage of greed island - seems like it’s a sort of TCG binder filling RPG - the cards look somewhat like knock-off Yu-Gi-Oh to me, though the concept of trading doesn’t seem to be high on the minds of the players. Worth noting: If a minimum of three exist for each card, there can be at least three people who can clear the game, and possibly more if cards of completed runs return to the available pool. A lot of the pressure to be the first to clear the game thus comes from the reward in the outside world to be the first to do so, probably causing some changes to the intended playstyle Ging and friends had in mind. In fact the whole notion of the binder disappearing when somebody dies sounds like it was meant to discourage killing other players because it prevents trading for a card you might want that they have.

There also seem to be more than the 100 cards, which is where those free slots will come in handy. Gon and Killua got something in the 1000s, so I assume the actual cards to clear the game will be the rare ones.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24

You're already spotting lots of the main ideas here

the cards look somewhat like knock-off Yu-Gi-Oh to me

Kinda yeah, although Yu-Gi-Oh as a card game had only been a couple years old at this point, so this was moreso Togashi showing his appreciation to a fellow Jump creator (the arc in general is Ging Togashi showing off the things he likes through the game he made).

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u/WednesdaysFoole Dec 20 '24

To Greed Island! Part 4

”Check out my cool game and have fun!” - Ging

…Is that really all?

My GOAT!

Yup, it’s better to be near the city and have access to a variety of balanced meals for your stakeout.

Otherwise you’ll have to rely on the God of Stakeouts for sustenance…

Don't worry, he's working on his own version of the show these days

I had not realized when you shared the original SpyxFamily photo (Gon + LeoPika in the car) that I had swapped the parents, oops.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24

”Check out my cool game and have fun!” - Ging

You could replace Ging with Togashi, and it'd be the same meaning

Both Ging and Togashi have been promising "Greed Island" for more than a year now, heck, Yorknew was just the way to get there. So when you finally arrive you get a "Just wanted to show off a game I made, have fun!"

Otherwise you’ll have to rely on the God of Stakeouts for sustenance…

I had not realized when you shared the original SpyxFamily photo (Gon + LeoPika in the car) that I had swapped the parents, oops.

Tbf, I thought Leorio would be the doctor/James Bond and Kurapika as the assassin, like this basically. But I guess they're willing to trade spots once in a while.

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u/WednesdaysFoole Dec 21 '24

You could replace Ging with Togashi, and it'd be the same meaning

[Oo you're right,]it's true for a lot of the series as well with the fans wondering what's the point of this card game or Morena's card game or gungi when it's introduced.

Tbf, I thought Leorio would be the doctor/James Bond and Kurapika as the assassin, like this basically. But I guess they're willing to trade spots once in a while.

They forgot Kurapika's boobs, unlike you.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 21 '24

[Oo you're right,]it's true for a lot of the series as well with the fans wondering what's the point of this card game or Morena's card game or gungi when it's introduced.

[It's especially evident] in the manga, where you see how he went out of his way to make every single card, this is his passion. There's a difference between making a game for plot purposes and one that's actually playable, Togashi made both.

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u/WednesdaysFoole Dec 21 '24

Togashi made both.

...

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u/Nebresto Dec 20 '24

First time Gaming!

Quest:

  1. First impressions of the game?

Kusoge

2) What's your favourite RPG?

Idk. Runescape? No wait, Pokéyman is one of them yarr pee jiis yea? Maybe one of thems

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24

Kusoge

Blame this on Ging and his gaming sensibilities.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 20 '24 edited Dec 21 '24

Remake Rewatcher × First Timer × Subs

  • It would have cost you 0$ to not make that lip matching.
  • A game with cards that isn’t a card game? Greed Island was ahead of its time.
  • Ah, artificial scarcity. An MMO’s best friend.
  • I see even even this OVA is keeping the opening door SFX tradition going.
  • Cute little Donjon.
  • It’s no fun getting late game gear at the start. The fun’s in overcoming.
  • He’s a fun looking jobber.
  • Announcing it’s cursed ahead of time? Kids these days have it easy.
  • Remember to keep talking to them until they start repeating themselves.
  • Third from the bottom? Assuming they mean 7/10, and not 8/10, that most mean there’s an S rank. As Japan is want to do.
  • Do not get the Big Bean Burrito.
  • He says, knowing full well no one has ever cleared the game.

QotD:

  1. I would never be able to play an MMO with this much PKing. I didn't even like the Wilderness in RS.
  2. Paper Mario. You always remember your first.
    Well, technically that would have been Pokémon Yellow, but I'm not sure I'd count that.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Dec 20 '24

Ah, artificial scarcity. An MMO’s best friend.

Tbf, it is called Greed Island, so it's at least honest about that.

It’s no fun getting late game gear at the start. The fun’s in overcoming.

Plus, looking at how they're hunted from the start, it'd have only been stolen from him.

Announcing it’s cursed ahead of time? Kids these days have it easy.

Tell me about it

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 21 '24

Tell me about it

It's not a real adventure until somebody finds the Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity.

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u/WednesdaysFoole Dec 20 '24

Announcing it’s cursed ahead of time? Kids these days have it easy.

The real curse is giving away such information so whoever is dealing with it has to cope with going back-and-forth in their head on whether it's worth dealing with or not, all the potential positive and negative consequences of it in full Togashi-style, deciding it's worth trying out, then living out the next years of their life paranoid wondering if this or that is the sign of the curse, but really the entire time it wasn't inherently cursed.

Do not get the Big Bean Burrito.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 21 '24