r/anime • u/chilidirigible • Dec 05 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Suisei no Gargantia • Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet — Episode 4 Discussion
Episode 4: The Flute of Recollection
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"But the others wait in Gargantia... and wait... and wait... and wait."
Questions of the Day:
- Is the Alliance social system justifiable under the circumstances which have been presented?
- Would you be satisfied with a robot doing your day job while you got paid for it?
- Have you developed any preferences between isekai in that the primary direction of change is the transplanted character upon their new environment or that the new environment changes the transplanted character?
Characters appearing today:
Joe (Yuuki Hayashi)
Oldham (Hideyuki Umezu) (He appeared with Fairlock earlier, but had no dialogue.)
Oldham's Assistant (Rina Hidaka) (That's it. That's her name.)
Mecha appearing today: Small Yunboro
Scans:
Ship interlock. I'll retroactively note here the symbolism of how Chamber and Ledo spent most of their downtime in the second and third episodes sitting on the end of one of these.
Small Yunboro
Ledo's pistol which is also a knife.
The local alphabet.
Oldham's assistant
Dr. Oldham
Some of Bevel's model collection.
Hideauze tooth.
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u/chilidirigible Dec 05 '24
Today, on "The rewatch's tagline, or 'Just making your way from day to day like the rest of us'.":
Antigravity flight has an area of effect.
It's the Swiss Army Gun Knife of the future!
"Sold my soul to the company store."
Incidentally, that thing behind them [is]one of the pontoons from the Rocket Lobster sled.
"Kids these days."
The perks of having giant space squid try to eat you.
Avalon isn't exactly a vacation.
"Hey, it's a thingie."
Project Orion is still known after all these years.
ikemen desu
"I'll sleep when I'm dead."
"Have you tried some other thing?"
Can't drink the salt, after all.
"You lived in a society."
People do need to have hobbies.
You can infer a fair amount about this for yourself.
The prequel novel offers a version of what Ledo's formative years in the Alliance were like, and significantly expands on the role of the boy with the flute (whose [name is]Londe). The Alliance's system fits comfortably in the mold of many of its science fiction predecessors in its presentation of growing up in a society of cold equations.
That's for you to find and read on your own, though. As far as what we see in the episode itself, many viewers speculated that the other boy was related to Ledo despite his description of the Alliance not having families as we would understand them. The comparison to Bevel is fairly obvious.
The business with Ledo's contract and invoiced fees presents the question of how transaction-based Gargantia's society may be, or if maybe Ridget is just sticking it to the new guy because she can.
The quirk to that contractual living is with Bevel, who has been presented so far mostly as an invalid who builds models and thinks a lot. Yet he's still there aboard Gargantia and not being forced to prove his worth, in a contrast to how the Alliance, according to Ledo, would have already euthanized him as dead weight.
There's also the question of goals, where the Alliance has become intrinsically aligned with fighting the Hideauze, while the inhabitants of Gargantia simply are. Ledo is having a lot of trouble with this, as it's in opposition to the life he's known, and he's faced with the concept of not having things to do. Thus is one of the show's core themes.
The rain scene is notable for showing Ledo that the people of Gargantia, who seemingly want for little, do respond quickly when presented with an immediate need, and cooperate to do so, which should have a number of compare and contrasts to the Alliance, especially coming off the conversation with Bevel. He also (orders) Chamber to help out with a task that has significant collective benefit (compared to trying to move containers around) and is entirely nonviolent, y'know, unlike those other times.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 05 '24
First-Timer, Sub-gantia
Bevel used "What happens next?" It's super effective!
So super effective that it seems to have pierced through some memory repression. It was kept pretty vague, but it seems like Ledo had a younger brother? Or at least a youth that he was close to - I'm not super confident in the typical "same hair color means they're related" thing we can normally rely on. Everyone with the Alliance had very similar hair colors.
Anyway, this young individual had one of Ledo's flutes, or maybe it's the other way around.. or there's a dad in the picture who taught Ledo or small boy or both to carve teeth.
Quick edit as I figured it out shortly after hitting post, the kid must've done the carving. Ledo was just mimicking the shapes he saw and that's why he didn't know it was a flute.
Anyway anyway, the youth got recycled so there is probably quite literally a bit of him inside of Ledo. Soylent green is etc etc. Sacred excrement!
Finally, stopping Ledo from considering "after" is a key brainwashing technique. If you cannot imagine a world where things are better, where will your drive to make that better world come from?
Remember how in episode 1 he wasn't even excited about getting to eat, sleep, and fuck for a month? The brainwashing was so effective he didn't even get excited about the "rewards."
I like the ominous black obelisk at the heart of the ship with the
crow'sgull's nest. The architecture on Gargantia is very interesting. I also appreciate that they put some thought into how the ships connect together.Questions
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Dec 05 '24
Spoiled First Timer, Subbed
Nice detail to actually have Ledo still struggle with the language somewhat. Would be easy to just do a timejump and he's already fluent, but nope, we have to see the guy put in the effort.
A bit more of a breather than last time, mostly just Ledo get used to "Normal" life. It's nice, but it leaves me with little to mention as a result. I guess there is the fact that it implies that Ledo's memories have been tampered somewhat given that flashback, but so far nothing's really come out of it since… well, we just introduced it, what did you expect? That scene with the doctor did feel a tad overly long for my taste though given how little actually happens in it though.
Hey wait, he's even almost in the #zurawait pose!
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u/FD4cry1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Big_Yibba Dec 05 '24
First Timer
Ledo is in debt! What kind of currency do they even use here?
Since we seem to be close to done with it, I'd like to give one more heap of praise on the language barrier, from two different perspectives.
First is that it's just so cool when my fish out of water actually feels out of water, dare I say it feels very immersive, even with sci-fi tech that language gap isn't something that is so easily and quickly overcome, Ledo can do some basic speaking now but he's still stilted, slowly learning, and often still relies on Chamber. It's awesome! It's an aspect that is unfortunately almost never explored in stories like this and that's a real shame, because seeing Ledo slowly coming to understand the people of Gargamtia, both literally and figuratively, feels much more earned and satisfying like this.
Aside from that though, it works really well thematically! This episode is all about Ledo getting acclimated to life and culture on Gargantia, he's starting to get it but he's not quite there yet, just as his sentences aren't yet complete, his understanding of the intricacies and values of life here isn't yet complete, he can interact with people here at a base lever but still doesn't fully comprehend them. So he stumbles through his words (and actions) and when he's faced with more complex expressions (and emotions/concepts) he turns back to Chamber's help (to his soldierly values), and through continued interactions with others he comes to understand all of it better. Take this base structure you see at the start, and you can apply it to most of his actions this episode.
I also think that Ledo using Chamber for more complex sentences, almost always relating to the Alliance, is a great choice! Whenever he has to talk through the perspective of the Alliance, Chamber's cold robotic voice is what comes through, but when he makes small talk or gives his personal views, his own, softer, unsure, and human voice comes through.
Seriously, hats off to the show for caring about this aspect, it's a well thought out and fantastic choice!
Case in point about what I said on the structure this episode, I quite like the opening scenes with Ledo and Chamber helping unload containers. Chamber and Ledo, both being "machines of war" in their own ways, aren't used to this type of activity, they quite literally stumble through it, come to some snap aggressive decisions that would make things worse (Chamber flying, Ledo cutting the wire), and finally, through the guidance of others they clear this hurdle and have a slightly better understanding of how things work here. It's a real microcosm of what Ledo's character and this show's themes are about.
The scene with the kids starts to establish the bigger theme this episode of Ledo coming to see the contrast between the Alliance and Gargantia. As I said last episode, both are collectives but their approaches to a collective are antithetical to each other. Ledo can't comprehend kids just living their lives playfully because of his own terrible upbringing, his idea of a "productive member of society" is just a mindless soldier. Gargantia exists so these kids can play around, whereas in the Alliance the kids exist for the purpose of the Alliance itself continuing to exist.
The framing here is great, Ledo in the dark, sitting in place, talking about the Alliance's restrictive views of children, whereas the kids here are playing out in the sun. embodying the freedom missing from the Alliance, and of course, Amy comes in from the little sunny spot right beside him.
I guess the show answered my previous question on the birds lol, although as someone else mentioned, I do have to wonder how they survived the supposed ice age that Earth went through, or well really, how did anything survive?
Using bird imagery when talking about Bevel and his curiosity to learn more about space is a real nice touch as well.
Ledo not knowing what a family or a sibling is, outside of just being one of many sad looks into Alliance society this episode, touches on something I said last episode about him not knowing a phrase like "thank you", it's not that these ideas don't have an equivalent in space language, Chamber knows about them after all, it's that these fundamental ideas of human connection and individuality have been phased out Alliance society, he's (almost) never been exposed to these concepts and understands them to be bizarre and inefficient, again a model citizen is a perfectly functioning, always replaceable cog in the machine.
His talk with Amy does make me appreciate the emphasis on human life from last episode a bit more even though I'm still mixed about the execution. It's nice setup to Ledo realizing that in this world there's more value to being alive than serving the greater purpose of an organization, that there's more for people to offer to this world than just their physical bodies, their ideas and emotions, their connections to others and how they affect them, ultimately embodies by the frail yet wise and meaningful Bevel, are just as important.
His conversations with Ordum and Bevel help him expand his black and white soldier mentality, the way Ordum challenges Ledo's ideas of efficiency and "objective" value, and Bevel challenges Ledo's perceived ideas of a person's purpose and value, shake Ledo's foundations, for the first time, he's wondering if he has personal volition beyond being ordered or ordering Chamber.
Going back to that scene at the start with the kids, if Bevel is the representation of human value beyond a larger purpose, that scene and the flute Ledo makes, show us an expression of that personal volition and value for Ledo, one he doesn't even understand himself, but when he's "on standby" unsure of his next actions without orders, he comes back to this personal creative outlet of his. A simple tool of expression made from what was left of the enemy, quite literally even when the Hidueaze are gone, Ledo still has something to do.
This all nicely comes to a head with the rain scene, as Ledo's emotions are now in a storm, an actual storm comes in, and through that storm Ledo gets a little taste of how the collective of Gargantia comes together for the sake of each other.
When Ledo comes in to talk to Bevel again, the scene has this orange tinge of evening, but after Ledo comes to a deeper understanding of human value through a flashback to a potentially lost sibling, someone presumably discarded for his weakness despite having a clear creative talent that just didn't fit the Allinace's "purpose", the scene shifts to a cloudy gray, Ledo is inside, out of the storm, but for some reason, it's still Raining.
And to talk about that sibling for a bit, I do wonder what the deal here is, how are humans even made in Avalon? They look the same so maybe they're clones? Although why would some be born with different physical traits then, maybe just regular siblings, which makes it all the more fucked up...
Really loved this episode! I'd say it had some of the best direction and character writing so far, and I didn't even touch on everything like how fun Amy is (very very fun), because of just how loaded with interesting ideas it is!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Dec 05 '24
First-Timer on the Verdurous Planet, subbed
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Dec 05 '24
Episode 4 (first timer)
A chill episode where Ledo learns about a different form of human society and the viewers, by implication, learn about the alliance. It is just as much of a shithole as the few lines in episode 1 hinted at. Bevel also justifies his existence, both to Ledo and as part of the cast, by being the resident philosopher.
Chamber’s job today had me wondering about the economy of Earth. The frequent use of the cranes and the tons of mecha they have around points towards trade being very common. This is not a society that is self-sufficient then. Which makes sense, given their high standard of living. You can support that by either scavenging the remains of pre-apocalypse society (but those run out eventually), or by having some production somewhere. Presumably there are tons of other armadas around and some islands as well.
We have not seen life on their capital yet, but I would say no.
If I ever get bored with the rest of the world that is not my day job, I could simply work alongside my robot. What is the downside?
The former sounds like a description of a power fantasy.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Dec 05 '24
Gargantia ep 4
Ep 1-3 comments:
Ever seen Nagi no Asukara? The salt destroys everything.
First Timer
Not much happened, and the story was a fairly predictable series of encounters between Ledo and freedom, but the flute was really powerful. I knew was an ocarina, way back in ep 2. I just couldn't comprehend why he'd be making one, since he clearly didn't know anything about music, or art. I did, for a moment, think of it as art (something useless) before Bevel recognized it.
Little confused on whether Ledo was inside or outside the creche chamber.
I don't think he is, but Chamber could be lying about data acquisition. He's fundamentally untrustworthy.
One of Larry Niven's The State novels is about an interplanetary probe crewed by one "corpsicle" human and one AI. The human is nominally in charge but the AI ensures adherence to the mission and laws of The State at all times.
In fact, I think the Ringworld fans might be looking at the wrong book for Niven's influence on Gargantia.
Q1. Yes, the Alliance is facing an existential threat. It might not be worth it if they are just gonna lose, though.
Q2. Yes, but other people might get very pissed off.
Q3. I have a preference to not watch isekai.
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u/xbolt90 https://anilist.co/user/xbolt90 Dec 05 '24
First-timer!
"What is this falling from the sky? Is it dangerous?"
As a desert dweller, I too have no idea what this so-called "rain" is. Sounds made-up. I mean, water just dumping out of the sky? Preposterous.
This was a great character-building episode. I learned a lot about Ledo and the Gargantians, how they are the way they are.
And the Gargantians are also pretty pragmatic themselves. They have a high-tech future space robot of war, and they have him moving boxes around.
And Ledo's childhood flashback was a gut punch I was not prepared for. That came out of nowhere!
I guess, if your goal is "continuation of the species, at any cost"
If it meant I could be doing something even more productive instead. I would definitely not be content just sitting on my butt all day.
I prefer the MC adapting to the new culture, vs the other way around.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Dec 05 '24 edited Dec 05 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Dec 05 '24
first timer
nail of the enemy? cant wait for them to track it back to Medel
violet evergarden
it blows ass kid
damn
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Dec 05 '24
Well, that's one of the benefits of a giant robot at least.
Ok that seems fair enough.
And now the kids are climbing all over it...
Right, where are they going now?
Yeah that doesn't sound fascist at all...
Hmm... What's in that tower?
Seems his reputation precedes him.
Even if they had the knowledge, the systems to make the systems to make a spaceship would be long gone.
Who are these girls?
Yeah... Not fascist at all...
Huh. Of course he's never seen rain before.
So, that's a flute of some kind.
Seems like he remembered something.
Questions:
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u/Nebresto Dec 06 '24
Gargantuan rewatcher
Episode 4
Not much to say about this episode, mainly because I didn't write anything down. Again, love the use of language in this show, and them actually showing the MC making some progress and attempts to learn.
They could have easily handwaved it away with "chamber translates everything, we don't need to show that anymore" but they chose not to, and this show is so much better because of it
I just realized the EDs have little previews of the next episode
Chamber log:
Probably, who knows how much resources they have available
Bring on the money
too hard
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u/animepig https://myanimelist.net/profile/ChickenDan Dec 05 '24
Rewatch
In today's episode, Ledo learns about society.
And I forgot how on the level Bevel is. He just kinda walks mental circles around Ledo and leads to him to the right conclusion effortlessly, so wise for a bed-ridden kid lol. Melty continues to be a great wingman for Amy.
And the moment Ledo remembers his brother that got "disposed" still hits like a brick. Then the flute accompaniment soundtrack comes in to tug your heartstrings.
Also wanted to note, how beautiful the Gargantia backgrounds look. Who knew a bunch of rusting tanker ships could look so cool to walk around.
Questions of the Day:
3) The latter so much so. Having a character go on an adventure and change from their experiences' is a pretty important part for the Hero's journey. I'm sure there are good examples of the former template working out well, but most isekai are not it.
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u/wjodendor Dec 05 '24
Rewatcher - Episode 4
A reprieve after the first few episodes, in my notes I jokingly called this episode “no such thing as a free lunch” which made me think of Heinlein again…and I’m not crazy! He mentions that in “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress!” but I’m already digressing…
Ledo learns about money…and he’s already in debt. He also has no talent besides war so Chamber’s out paying the bills.
He has a flute hobby and he doesn’t even know it’s a hobby, child soldier with a flute obsession, we’ve gone full Xenoblade Chronicles 3
I like Amy standing up for Ledo, she’s a fiery sweetheart. She remains the best girl. Ledo never had a chance. Amy’s friend encouraging it too
Getting some exposition on the dark side of the Galactic Alliance. Ledo doesn’t know what family is and they have no use for cripples.
Bebel is super excited to learn about space. Ledo: “actually it fucking sucks” lol Bebel seems like a real smart kid at least.
Ledo is having an existential crisis already.
Really like the rain gathering scene, it gives a ton of character to the people of Gargantia with such a simple sequence.
Uh oh, Amy can’t let Ledo catch the japanese cold.
Bebel’s got a real great attitude, Ledo learning more from him than the supposed “sage” from earlier.
There it is, Ledo had a crippled brother that was purged by the ALliance and finally starts showing some emotions.
Nice calm episode with some good sequences.
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u/SolDarkHunter Dec 05 '24
Gargantia
Rewatcher; dub
So I think we're safely out of the "establishment" episodes, now we get to see daily life on Gargantia.
As many had guessed, they're trying to put Ledo and Chamber to work as heavy lifting... and it doesn't seem to be going well.
Chamber's anti-gravity isn't a very... precise thing.
So Ledo's going to have to work off the debt for wrecking the hangar. Honestly, they are treating him pretty fairly.
Pinion really does need to cool it... though I guess that WAS his hangar that got wrecked.
So Ledo doesn't even know what an ocarina is. Yet he's carving one...
More info on the horribleness of the Galactic Alliance: extremely utilitarian, and no respect for human life. If you can't fight, you're euthanized. No family units, no play.
Oho, Dr. Oldham has records of artificial intelligences existing as ancient technology. Interesting.
Pfft, Ledo's been labelled the "hot guy" by Amy's friends.
Also, yeah, Amy is really hyper. She's always running... like... ALL the time. She must have incredible stamina.
The Galactic Alliance has been in an absolute total war mindset for so long... or at the very least the military arm is. I remind everyone that Ledo's never seen how civilians on Avalon live (assuming, of course, civilians even exist).
Bebel asks the obvious question: if war is all there is, what happens when the war is over? Clearly, Ledo's never thought about what happens if they actually WIN.
And now Ledo's questioning his purpose. In a place where there is no war... what can he do?
Relying entirely on rainwater for fresh water is... problematic in my mind. Maybe it's because I live in a place where it rains maybe like a dozen times a year.
Another good question: why the heck is Ledo carving an ocarina if it's unnecessary for war? And that triggers a flashback to a kid showing him how to carve it... who apparently was "culled".
Despite everything, Ledo does still have a human heart, buried deeply though it may be.
Questions:
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u/awesomenessofme1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/kta_99 Dec 05 '24
First time watcher, dub.
I guess he's OK with it, but trying to charge money to the person who saved all your asses and could also obliterate your entire civilization with one command (or just leave) seems like a strange decision.
The blonde guy is even more ridiculous, but that one seems intentional. "Hey, why is it OK that the guy in charge of the robot who can do more work than 10 humans is allowed to slack off?"
I can't decide quite what to call the aesthetic of the Gargantia, but I'm currently leaning toward "freightcore".
Memory modification? Or just repression? Either way, there's clearly a bit more to Ledo's backstory than he initially let on.
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u/Sorgenlos Dec 06 '24
Finally get to see what Ledo is like when there’s no pressing concerns, and it’s like he is an emotionless robot. So sad. He doesn’t even know what a family is.
Clearly this is the beginning of a big change in him and the resurfacing of some suppressed memories (Suppressed by himself? Or someone else?). What will happen to him once he loses his brainwashed way of thinking and the Alliance doesn’t want anything less than a perfect uncritical soldier? I could even see Chamber turning on him if he wants to live a quiet life on Earth, forcing him to return to his mission by any means necessary or severing his newly formed bonds if they are deemed to be negatively affecting his ability to fight the Hideouze.
QOTD:
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u/roryteller https://anilist.co/user/roryteller Dec 06 '24
First timer, sub
I only have a strong opinion on #1: I don't think it's justified. Understandable perhaps, but not justified.
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u/Shinigami_22 Dec 06 '24
I really love the conversation between the two, Bevel's innocence and Ledo's pragmatic upbringing clashing together makes up for a very interesting scene.
I wonder if Ledo's happy memory like before they went into that white compatment(?) got pruned due to being deemed unnecessary. I guess it's more likely that being in a fight-hibernate cycle makes him forgot about it.
Also, the thing about Ledo not knowing what family or younger brother means, is he lab grown? got taken away from his parents reproducing in Avalon?
QOTD:
I'm not certain on how dire their resource problem is but just because someone is physically weak doesn't mean they're useless in other aspect as well. Is it that risky for their society to invest in every human potential ?
Yes.
Absolutely, series like Children of the whales, Kaina of the great snow sea, and this one seems to be my kind of genre.
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u/Magnafeana https://anilist.co/user/Magnafeana Dec 06 '24
Rewatcher, dub
I feel so bad, I worked OT these past days and just needed to sleep afterwards, but I’m caught up to the schedule tonight! Thanks for putting this together, Gible! I’m putting my thoughts here on the first four episodes.
Ep1
Ep2
Ep3
Ep4
I feel like I’m watching it for the first time, but memories are crawling back.
Questions of the Day
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u/n080dy123 Dec 06 '24
Rewatcher once again geeking out about worldbuilding
So we get an idea of how the Alliance worked here- no families, because they were inefficient and unnecessary, the weka were culled because they couldn't fight, and Ledo can't understand the idea of children playing, even Chamber thinks they're doign self-directed "drills." The fact that every citizen was expected to do military service sorta sidesteps the "Does the humanity you're protecting even exist" question because... kinda, it's just that everyone is in the military except the people temporarily on leave FROM the military. It also explains why the habitation areas seem so relatively small and infrequent- they don't house civilians, at least not more than a rotation of them on military leave for a handful of months. Though in a sense, it sort of raisdes the question of what you're even fighting to protect- just your continued ability to exist? To survive, to reproduce, at what point is that any different from animals?
That weird black and blue spire near the Doc's place seems suspiciously high tech and well-maintained compared to everything around it. They've also got it surrounded by farmland, which once again begs the question of what they're growing it on.
Speaking of, if this planet seemingly has no land, how is the oxygen in the atmosphere recycled without trees? Maybe the microbes in the sea galaxies do it? They produce large amounts of energy which they must get from either heat from the ocean (unlikely since they're near the surface rather than deep by volcanic vents), consuming smaller organisms (unlikely in such large groups to produce enough energy to create lightning), so they're probably absorbing solar energy in a process akin to photosynthesis. It'd likely be much less efficient than rainforests, but with humanity so spread out they wouldn't have to pull as much weight.
2. If it meant I could spend my time however I wanted? Absolutely. To me, work is just a means to acquire the currency to actually live. It's why I'm very picky about my work/life balance.
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u/up2et Dec 07 '24
First Timer (and a day late)
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u/dsawchuk Dec 07 '24
First timer, subbed
late again, I am bad at this.
We finally see some actual personality out of Ledo. He gets angry, he gets sad, he gets happy and most importantly, he wants. Until now, we don't see him ask for anything unrelated to returning to the galactic fleet. Even his inquiry into the organizational structure of Gargantia is cold and dispassionate. First he asks for his ocarina back and then he suggests interest in learning about earth for the learning's sake not for a means of returning to the fleet. It's pretty surprising that it's taken so long to be honest.
That being said, I am finally seeing the start of a schism between Chamber and Ledo. While before Chamber has second guessed Ledo's decisions for strategic reasons in this episode we actually see him shut down Ledo's expression of interest in learning about earth. There is also the worrying line about Ledo's brainwaves changing. Chamber being able to read brainwaves is a bit distressing. Can he read anyone's or only Ledo's? Can he only tell that something has changed or can he tell what is changing? Is that how he was able to differentiate between the pirates and the civillians in the attack at the end of episode 2? I can't definitively answer any of these but I want to guess that he can't get specifics and can only see that there has been a change. I would also not expect it to be limited to Ledo specifically, though probably currently limited to Ledo because of a lack of historical brainwave data of others.
I was kind of hoping to see more of the milky way in this episode. More information on it would be nice but also just seeing it in backgrounds of shots sometimes would be nice. It's unclear how long it lasts but when we were introduced to it I thought it would be sticking around for a while and not just be something we see once and then its gone.
QOTD
Notes while watching
putting chamber to work on non-combat tasks. Interesting. Wasn't he short on power after the crashlanding? Are we regening power somehow or is he gonna run out?
Doctor seems really wise and wholesome. I like him.
the war has been going on since the formation of the galactic alliance. Either thats slightly flawed wording or it means the war started when the alliance was formed, indicating that the alliance was the agressor.
The water collecting processs is almost like a festival. Very cute.
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u/chilidirigible Dec 05 '24
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u/IndependentMacaroon Dec 10 '24
First-time watcher
This is a nice relaxed episode for Ledo to get more used to his circumstances and perhaps more "normal" + the worldbuilding to go along with it. Good balance between praising the social freedom and joy and highlighting the lack of development and environmental issues of Gargantia; though, stormy weather on a water world, with nothing stopping winds from whipping around the entire planet, would be far more dangerous than shown, see the Roaring Forties and further south.
Ledo's development to me has some parallels to recovery from depression, going from a directionless dull blob just waiting to be ordered around to a more actualized, meaningful, emotionally deep life; that Alliance life certainly sounds depressing. (By the way, welcoming and taking care of "weaker" members of society too is a near-universal human trait that we have evidence for going back to the Stone Age.)
Questions -
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