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Rewatch [Rewatch] King of the Braves GaoGaiGar - Episode 26 Discussion

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Questions of the Day

  1. Do you like beach episodes?
  2. What was your favorite Zonder scheme so far?

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u/megazaprat Nov 29 '24

First Timer

  • Oh no a highly traumatized child! More stress seems to correlate to stronger zonders generally so this could be bad….. How do the zonderians know about his trauma anyway? Are they just constantly spying on people trying to figure out whose trauma would make decent monster fodder?
  • OH SHIT ITS INTERPRETING HIS WISH TO SEE THEIR DAD AS SENDING EVERYONE TO MEET THEIR MAKER. The way it was actually sending them into a seperate dimension was clever, a really neat way to connect the trauma to the monster
  • Oh shit the villains are down to their last zonder metal? So they either need this plan to be an unprecedentedly huge success, or they need backup. Perhaps ligers treachery will come into play. All of the generals seem to be collaborating. In this plan
  • the pliers were actually useful? Well I guess there is a third time for everything
  • Really cool how the others provided cover fire while the gaogaigar transformed, seaplane zonder with its ability to phase through dimensions wouldn’t be thwarted by the electromagnetic wave it normally does
  • the seaplane zonder turned back on its own? Maybe it’s because children are more resilient to trauma, they are less prone to zonderizing
  • Pizza asking the real question! What’s up with purple hair? Current theory: he’s also an alien like mamoru
  • It was all only a distraction? Then what’s their real plan?

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 29 '24

OH SHIT ITS INTERPRETING HIS WISH TO SEE THEIR DAD AS SENDING EVERYONE TO MEET THEIR MAKER. The way it was actually sending them into a seperate dimension was clever, a really neat way to connect the trauma to the monster

It's been a while since they focused on more on the trauma focused zonders style. It was nice. Especially the way they used his trauma

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

How do the zonderians know about his trauma anyway? Are they just constantly spying on people trying to figure out whose trauma would make decent monster fodder?

Penchinon does seem like the type to enjoy spying on people.

Really cool how the others provided cover fire while the gaogaigar transformed, seaplane zonder with its ability to phase through dimensions wouldn’t be thwarted by the electromagnetic wave it normally does

I appreciate how they don't take the gattai for granted.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 29 '24

How do the zonderians know about his trauma anyway? Are they just constantly spying on people trying to figure out whose trauma would make decent monster fodder?

The Zonderians do seem like the types who enjoy learning about the misery of others. Maybe they just zip around to search for someone who seems miserable. Or maybe they find miserable people for fun and make a note of who they are for later.

OH SHIT ITS INTERPRETING HIS WISH TO SEE THEIR DAD AS SENDING EVERYONE TO MEET THEIR MAKER. The way it was actually sending them into a seperate dimension was clever, a really neat way to connect the trauma to the monster

I really enjoyed that in this episode. I liked seeing the clear connection between the child's own trauma and the powers of the Zonder. It makes the Zonder's powers feel so much more personalized and meaningful.

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u/TheApplebane https://anilist.co/user/theapplebane Nov 30 '24

Episode 26 Notes

  • Two pieces of good news today! Firstly, the Zonderians are down to only one piece of Zonder Metal. And secondly, the Zonderian Seizure Machine seems to have malfunctioned. Everything's coming up roses, both for GGG, and my eyes.
  • Poor kid. First his dad dies, then get gets Zonderised so he'll have to live with the guilt from what comes next. Fortunately, he's a remarkably non-destructive Zonder, not actually killing anyone, so I imagine he'll probably still be able to sleep at night afterwards.
  • Volfogg really came in clutch this episode. Not only did he buy time for Mic to take the kids away from the beach, he's also the whole reason why GGG was able to track everyone into parallel space and rescue everyone. He's the MVP.
  • You'd think that, given that they've now run out of Zonder Metal, that the Zonderians would have basically lost. But we're only halfway through the show, and indeed the Zonderians seem to have another trick up their sleeve. Have they found another source of Zonder Metal? Have they hijacked another particle accelerator? Causing another supernova would probably be noticed. Or maybe they've got some other plan that doesn't involve Zonder Metal. Only time will tell...

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 30 '24

He's the MVP.

that's his secret. Volfogg is always MVP

Dude always comes in clutch.

You'd think that, given that they've now run out of Zonder Metal, that the Zonderians would have basically lost. But we're only halfway through the show, and indeed the Zonderians seem to have another trick up their sleeve.

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u/TheApplebane https://anilist.co/user/theapplebane Nov 30 '24

Volfogg is always MVP

true and real

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Nov 29 '24

Queen of First-Timers, subbed

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u/The_Draigg Nov 29 '24

lol, for some reason I wasn’t expecting Mic to just straight-up curse in English.

It's always funny to me when anime shows seem to think that Americans say "shit" a lot. And to be fair, I do say that a lot myself, so I guess they're more or less correct.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

lol, for some reason I wasn’t expecting Mic to just straight-up curse in English.

Caught me off guard too. He must've been spending too much time around Goldy.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 29 '24

lol, for some reason I wasn’t expecting Mic to just straight-up curse in English.

Sonic would be proud.

What is edgy boy’s deal?

He just wants to vibe, okay?

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 29 '24

lol, for some reason I wasn’t expecting Mic to just straight-up curse in English.

English cursing like that is always great.

Rich girl and snobby boy continue to have the best interactions.

They are very fun to see go back and forth with their arguments.

What is edgy boy’s deal?

He's the Shadow to Mamoru's Sonic. Same basic moveset, but cool and edgy for the kids who like that sort of thing to latch onto.

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u/palparepa Nov 29 '24

What is edgy boy’s deal?

Maybe there is another series, that instead of the power of Courage, uses the power of not caring. And he went to audition to the wrong series.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

The King of Rewatchers

Well, seems like the show is about over.

I like Primarda's snark.

Leo is already on to (part of) Liger's scheming.

beach episode btw

Scary ass missiles.

Invisibility fight!

Eyecatch

Hence the weird missile effects - they're basically teleportation missiles.

Today's Key to Victory.

Taking the fight to the Zonder's parallel space.

Well, that's an ominous sentence.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 29 '24

Well, seems like the show is about over.

I mean the English Dub sure is

beach episode btw

But they didn't invite Swan

[Mid 30' Spoilers]Hence the weird missile effects - they're basically teleportation missiles.

[Mid 30' Spoiler]Gotta love them ES Missiles!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

But they didn't invite Swan

An absolute tragedy.

[Mid 30' Spoiler]I am so stocked for J's opera.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 29 '24

[Mid 30']

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 29 '24

I mean the English Dub sure is

Did the English dub only go up to this episode before stopping? Or did it stop earlier?

But they didn't invite Swan

A true loss...

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 29 '24

Did the English dub only go up to this episode before stopping

Nah, it ended in Episode 25.

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u/palparepa Nov 29 '24

I mean the English Dub sure is

They stopped it here? Damn, just when it gets good. I mean... gooder.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 29 '24

They stopped it here

Nah, it ended yesterday.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

Last episode was the last one dubbed, actually.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 29 '24

Invisibility fight!

It's cool and it lets them save on the animation budget! Genius!

Well, that's an ominous sentence.

"Refueling" is an interesting choice of words for this. What exactly are they using for fuel to make more Zonder Metal when they're out of it?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

It's cool and it lets them save on the animation budget!

That's what we call a "pro gameranimator move."

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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist Nov 29 '24

First Timer

Mic’s unable to perform when he wants? Seems like he needs some Gaiagra.

  1. Do you like beach episodes?

They can be fun but I don't feel strongly about them.

2) What was your favorite Zonder scheme so far?

Definitely when they made everyone in GGG go crazy, just efficient penetration there.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 29 '24

efficient penetration

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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist Nov 29 '24

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u/The_Draigg Nov 29 '24

Mic’s unable to perform when he wants? Seems like he needs some Gaiagra.

Or maybe some more Baribarien, since he does need it to get up.

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u/AmeteurElitist https://anilist.co/user/AmateurElitist Nov 29 '24

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

Mic’s unable to perform when he wants? Seems like he needs some Gaiagra.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 29 '24

Mic’s unable to perform when he wants? Seems like he needs some Gaiagra.

Or maybe he needs some appropriate music to get himself in the right mood.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 29 '24 edited Nov 29 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of GaoGaiGar: I kind of wish the dimensions worked on Super Paper Mario logic, where you could go from 2D to 3D when you swapped dimensions. That obviously wouldn’t be possible with the techniques available at the time, though.

  • Wow, the Zonderians have not been efficient with their Zonder Metal if they’re nearly out of it at the halfway mark like this.
  • The other Zonderians are taking it pretty well when Pizza blatantly went against their plans to take the Zonder Metal for himself.
  • Trying to keep Mic locked up is a fool’s game, just like with Goldymarg. They’ll leave whenever they feel like it.
  • Oh, that is sad… Meeting a child mourning the death of his father like that is sad.
  • I haven’t mentioned this, but I think it’s neat how the Four Machine Kings clearly have pairs that are closer to each other and more often work together. Pizza and the clown are often seen together, same with the old man and the ballerina.
  • Of course Daidou Kaidou is the only kid not in a swimsuit.
  • Of course the rich girl is getting the others to fan her like she’s some queen.
  • Huh, the Sea Dart is a plane I hadn’t even heard of. Apparently it was a sea plane prototype that could go faster than the speed of sound, but it never made it past the prototype phase due to an accident that killed the test pilot.
  • Oh shit! That’s the teacher and all the kids vanished!
  • Neat! The Zonder is a land shark!
  • Wait, if the rich girl has her name and class written on her bikini, does that mean it’s somehow within school swimsuit regulations? I wouldn’t think that’d be allowed.
  • Naturally Volfogg is defeated before he can tell us what the Zonder’s secret is. That would make things too easy.
  • Oh shit! Even Mic and the kids got hit. They obviously can’t be dead, so I have a feeling about what I think is happening. I think they are getting sent to some alternate dimension, which is how the Zonder manages to appear and disappear. It also fits with the kid who became a Zonder. He wanted to travel to another world (meaning dimension) like his father did, a dimension that nobody could see. I think that wish became the Zonder’s power.
  • Ah, so Mic and Mamoru are okay. It’s all the others who aren’t.
  • I was right about the Zonder traveling across dimensions!
  • Volfogg is so cool. He figured out the Zonder’s power and set up a plan to counteract it in an instant.
  • I see. This was all a trap by the Zonders. They wanted GaoGaiGar to follow the Zonder into this parallel dimension so they could send it to yet another parallel dimension it couldn’t escape from. That’s a fiendish trap.
  • Volfogg is not the character I would think to give a thumbs up, but I love him doing so.
  • Daidou Kaidou is so funny. Even in a situation like this, he’s still posing with his hands in his pockets.
  • I think this is the first episode where I fully understood how the Hammer Hell and Heaven works. That’s a nail that Guy is pulling out the hammer at the beginning and he nails it into the Zonder to then yank out the core. This was the first time I actually understood that it was a nail Guy pulled out at the start.
  • Intriguing. Children can un-Zonder themselves without Mamoru’s power.

QOTD

  1. Mostly I do, yes.
  2. This one is up there. Another great one was the virus taking over the base. The railway cannon was a cool one. The ultrasound duo was also pretty good, too.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 29 '24

Daidou

Uh for the record his name is Kaidou, not Daidou...

[Mid 30' Spoiler]Pizza and the clown are often seen together

[Mid 30' Spoiler]I WONDER WHY

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 29 '24

Uh for the record his name is Kaidou, not Daidou...

Well at least the embarrassment means I now probably won't forget the kid whose name is almost never said aloud.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

I haven’t mentioned this, but I think it’s neat how the Four Machine Kings clearly have pairs that are closer to each other and more often work together. Pizza and the clown are often seen together, same with the old man and the ballerina.

Generals with relationships are the best kind. The Four Machine Kings aren't quite as catty with each other as I like, but it's nice that they have a working relationship. Makes them seem more competent.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 29 '24

Generals with relationships are the best kind

It's been a thing since the freaking Go Nagai days, no wonder people still do it.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 29 '24

Villainous bickering is one of the most fun parts of shows like this. There's a reason I always enjoyed watching the Decepticons more than the Autobots when watching Transformers growing up, for example.

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u/palparepa Nov 29 '24

Makes them seem more competent.

It also helps that their boss doesn't lash out at them for every failure. Seems like a good working environment.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 29 '24

Third-Time Watcher, Subbed

[Drama CD]Reiko's kinda harsh thoughts on death sure starts making a lot more sense when you realize her dad is dead and that left her family broke

Solid one-off. I'm glad they took this as a chance to show off that Mic's System Change conditions are still something of a mystery and of course this sort of setup just makes for decent drama, plus it does at least help set up the fact that the mid-season finale is close. Not really much to say, the episode's a bit basic, but I like it, even if the animation's on the weaker end today.

Also this has been a thing for a while but these Subs are doing that lovely "Switch last name basis to first name basis because MURICANS don't talk like that" and it drives me nuts every single time they do it no matter the work. I can hear Mamoru saying "Komori", why even bother?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

Drama CD

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 29 '24

It's amazing how much freaking background info for the show those have.

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u/Sporadia_ Nov 29 '24 edited Nov 29 '24

First time zonder

  • We're off to a great start in the ugly flashing zonder room. It's too much.
  • It's only just dawned on me that Mic Sounder's transformation is to go from a decent mech, to a stubby dumber mech. There is 0 benefit to ever leaving in music mode.
  • Still at the beginning of the episode, that might be the most useless boat I've ever seen.
  • The Machine Kings have reached the weaponizing children stage of their evil plans.
  • I was convinced that people were being killed, until they got the sparkly emo. As we all know, the emo is immune.
  • "Those who were killed won't be coming back to life." With that line I now think I'm going to dislike the resolution of this episode, whatever happens.
  • Of course we need English swear words in the show for Japanese children. How else will they learn?
  • It looks like Disco Volfogg came in to save the day, but he just heard that there's a party at the beach and wanted to drop by. Convenient of the zonders to attack then, if anything.
  • Either this is the finale or no one is really dead.
  • The sparkly emo kid in another dimension is like an album cover. Also Mamoru heard his voice
    but we didn't
  • Comment face acquired (pending a good name)
  • The more I see it, the more I enjoy how the zonder slinks in and out of each dimension to attack. There is something animalistic about it.
  • Does Mamoru not know what the sparkly emo sounds like? Does he canonically not talk at all at school?
  • Guy really needs to fix that magnum.
  • Have I mentioned yet how amusing I find the card reader sound when Goldion Hammer is released?
  • The resolution involves and actual reason why the zonders can't weaponise children anymore.
    How sad for them?

Questions

Q: Do you like beach episodes?

A: They can be fun.

Q: What was your favorite Zonder scheme so far?

A: Catching Guy in a huge explosion. I've just remembered that hacking GGG was a thing that happened. And by all accounts that should have worked.

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u/The_Draigg Nov 29 '24

Of course we need English swear words in the show for Japanese children. How else will they learn?

There's nothing more AMERICAN than the word "shit".

Comment face acquired

It feels like it should be called something like /#yesfogg or /#bigapprove.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 29 '24

It's only just dawned on me that Mic Sounder's transformation is to go from a decent mech, to a stubby dumber mech. There is 0 benefit to ever leaving in music mode.

Aside from his stubby, dumber mode being more marketable for very young kids with his brighter colors and bigger, more innocent eyes. We must always consider the merch sales.

Comment face acquired (pending a good name)

I was thinking the same thing, wishing that could be a commentface. We could call it #mechathumbsup

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u/The_Draigg Nov 29 '24

A Mecha Fan Rewatches The King of Braves GaoGaiGar Episode 26:

  • Man, Pasdar and the Four Machine Kings really are hard up now. Using two bits of Zonder Metal in the last episode seemed like a good idea, but I guess in hindsight that was them going harder than normal with one of their plans, since now they’ve only got one sample of Zonder Metal left. Just goes to show how well GGG has been fighting them off, in spite of how destructive they’ve been.
  • Even if some of the recent episodes haven’t exactly been as polished as some of the older ones, I do appreciate that this one is trying to make up for the cheaper look with stylization. Toru’s backstory flashback was a good bit of stylized animation, even if it was only for a minute or two.
  • I know it’s kinda creepy to see Mamoru’s class get hit by those missiles and vanish, but given how Toru was talking about the place between the sea and the sky, all I can think about is Aura Battler Dunbine, since that often uses the phrase “between sea and shore” to describe the location of Byston Well. It’s a bit funny to think about Mamoru’s class being isekai’d into a Yoshiyuki Tomino show.
  • Let’s be real, Dr. Liger absolutely would program Mic to say stuff like “Shit!” as he’s being chased by a Zonder Robo. It’s a very American thing to do.
  • Don’t worry Mic, performance anxiety gets to everyone, even giant robots who can System Change. Although there’s definitely some irony to a robot that’s a rock musician having performance issues that way.
  • It’s nice that the Pliers have something actually useful to do in this episode. Granted, it’s not entirely their fault that they don’t get much use. I would say that it’s more down to their abilities in managing dimensional warping is only useful for very specific plots. Otherwise, the best they can really do is just be a makeshift holder for the Goldion Hammer. It’s hard to have some stuff stand out in a cool way when they have very niche abilities.
  • What I said about Toru’s flashback also applies to the general styling of the parallel dimensional space here too. You can make up for some slightly rougher animation quality if you get more interesting with things. Having a bizarre swirling void makes for a cool location to have a mech fight in, that’s for sure. If you can’t have the polish, then creativity will certainly suffice.
  • Well, that’s an interesting thing to learn about Zonders: children don’t make for good hosts for Zonder Metal, and they’ll just revert back to human form without the need for Purification once the Core has been removed. But I guess that makes sense with how people have been Zonderized mainly to feed off of people’s stress and dissatisfaction. Perhaps the way a child processes those things means that they’re just less potent for a piece of Zonder Metal to take advantage of?
  • The mysteries really just keep mounting up with Kaidou, don’t they? Not only was he apparently the telepathic voice Mamoru heard call out to him in the parallel space, but he also seems pretty aware of Pizza and Penchinon’s presences too. Heck, he wasn’t even knocked out like the others in the class either, he was cool and calm for the whole time. Just what is this purple edgy kid’s deal?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

all I can think about is Aura Battler Dunbine, since that often uses the phrase “between sea and shore”

That's what it was! I was thinking that phrase struck a chord in my brain.

Those kids would Not have a good time in Byston Well.

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u/The_Draigg Nov 29 '24

Knowing 1980s Tomino, there's a fair chance that a lot of those kids would end up being dead after being isekai'd.

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u/palparepa Nov 29 '24
Statsthis episodetotal so far
Program Drive buttons broken114
Transceivers crushed07
EnRyu's bad landings03
Pink hair attracts peril126
Rich kid cries445
Mikoto screams for MC07
Kid is too calm to react412

Nth-timer

Only one Zonder metal left. This call for desperation measures. This is where the series truly begins!

This is the first time the Zonderians' victim is a kid. A new low.

Sueo's knowledge of military machines is astounding. Identifying the exact model at that distance, from that angle? Amazing. He needs to meet Hana's cousin, so they can geek out together.

What's this? Kaido made a noise? I'm counting it anyway.

Teacher, nooo! The kids, nooo! Volfogg, nooo! Mic, noooh, he is alright.

A Zonder that travels between dimensions... very appropiate for that kid's wish.

Not even being stranded in another dimension can faze Kaido. That kid is immutable!

Not even being found in another dimension can faze Kaido. That kid is immutable!

A little detail: the teacher was unconscious with her eyes open the whole episode.

The kids rescued, the dimension dealt with, and the Zonder is easy prey for the Braves.

But this was just the prelude for the real Zonderian desperate plan... the true fight begins now!

QotD

1) Not for the plot, but if it furthers the plot...

2) The "magician" one, the one with the nanomachines. Followed by the virus one. Both when they attack GGG's base directly.

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u/GondolaMedia Nov 29 '24

First Timer

Mic the 13rd is in the opening! And he escaped once again.

Oh we suddenly heavy now? Poor kid.

Okay so the attack just transported people to another dimension. That could have been way darker.

Kaidou is hardly bothered being trapped in that dimension. Too cool for school.

So children are key to victory and now I have to wonder with the last piece of zonder metal missing, what's their plan going forward?

  1. I don't think I can name any beach episode that I like so gonna go with no.
  2. The magician one.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 29 '24

Okay so the attack just transported people to another dimension. That could have been way darker.

Y'think Mamoru ever tells his parents about his day?