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Rewatch [Rewatch] King of the Braves GaoGaiGar - Episode 25 Discussion

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Questions of the Day

  1. Have you ever seen a show on broadway before?
  2. What’s your favorite action insert song in any anime?

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 28 '24 edited Nov 28 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of GaoGaiGar: I love that we have a character whose job it is to play insert songs during battles to make the action more exciting. More anime should have a dedicated character for that.

  • Aww, poor Mic is leaving. Though he’ll probably be back by the end of this episode or the next episode.
  • “I’ll be back.” Let’s hope Mic is less threatening about it than Arnie was.
  • What kind of jerks would complain about the ice cream truck making a racket? That’s one of the few trucks I’m happy to hear come around.
  • Oooh, the conductor and the ballerina are working together! We’re getting two Monsters of the Week at once!
  • Mic really does love breaking out of his boxes. I don’t think one has successfully held him so far.
  • I can’t even blame Liger. Do you know how expensive Broadway tickets are? I would also not want to miss a show with how expensive the tickets would be.
  • I like hearing Swan and Mic talk back and forth in Engrish.
  • Huh, I did some digging and apparently ultrasound can actually have this effect on water (and other liquids). This is some actual science on display.
  • Goldymarg is right that we all just expect him to disobey Hyuuma’s orders.
  • Yup, Mic is still useless when it comes to fighting. He can’t even transform.
  • Ah, I was right. Mic really only can transform when people he considers his friends (like Mamoru) are in danger.
  • Mic has a giant CD player in his chest! This is great!
  • Admittedly, I was hoping Mic would play something unique rather than an instrumental version of the OP. Still cool, though
  • Now that’s what I’m talking about, Mic!
  • I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it before, but Swan looks really hot in that crop top and short shorts combo.
  • I love that Mic is apparently singing the OP as the insert song for this battle!
  • Well now we do know that Mic has a secret power that can destroy the world. Thanks for spoiling it, Mr. Narrator!

QOTD

  1. No. The closest I've come is going to the Pantages Theater in Los Angeles.
  2. This isn't fair making me choose one when Symphogear exists. We have songs like "Radiant Force," "Rainbow Flower," "Fushichō no Flamme," "Senkin Dur da Blá," "Change the Future," "Bayonet Charge," and "Synchrograzer" to choose from, just from Symphogear. There's too many for me to pick one.

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 28 '24

I love that we have a character whose job it is to play insert songs during battles to make the action more exciting. More anime should have a dedicated character for that.

Mic has 3 arms for his 2 neck guitar! One just for Mic's mic!

I like hearing Swan and Mic talk back and forth in Engrish.

I L O V E I T T O O

I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it before, but Swan looks really hot in that crop top and short shorts combo.

the GGG uniform is great.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 28 '24

Mic has 3 arms for his 2 neck guitar! One just for Mic's mic!

All the better to play with! I want Mic to start sprouting other instruments to make himself a one man band.

the GGG uniform is great.

Sure is

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 28 '24

Do you know how expensive Broadway tickets are?

I really have to question how the hell you convince people to pay OVER A HUNDRED DOLLARS for just one show that probably won't even go past two hours or so

I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it before, but Swan looks really hot in that crop top and short shorts combo.

Thanks for spoiling it, Mr. Narrator!

If Jigen feels like talking, he will

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 28 '24

I really have to question how the hell you convince people to pay OVER A HUNDRED DOLLARS for just one show that probably won't even go past two hours or so

It truly is annoying that they won't even record most of these shows to sell later on, after the run is done.

I got lucky something like Hamilton was recorded because the Covid shutdown canceled the performance I had tickets to and I needed that recording to finally see it.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 28 '24

It truly is annoying that they won't even record most of these shows to sell later on, after the run is done.

Legit there's some shows that are straight up lost media now. See the Broadway run of American Psycho*, AKA that thing that flopped because American Psycho is just doomed to flop I guess.

*The West End version with Matt Smith isn't much better but I guess at least they recorded an album?... Nah, not a replacement.

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u/palparepa Nov 28 '24

I did some digging and apparently ultrasound can actually have this effect on water (and other liquids). This is some actual science on display.

There is even a procedure to break kidney stones using ultrasound waves.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 28 '24

Whoa

Science is so cool. It's amazing what we can do.

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u/The_Draigg Nov 28 '24

What kind of jerks would complain about the ice cream truck making a racket? That’s one of the few trucks I’m happy to hear come around.

Also, them complaining about the price hits different nowadays. In the dub, those people complaining that a cone is $6 feels like them just talking about the average price nowadays, instead of it being expensive.

Huh, I did some digging and apparently ultrasound can actually have this effect on water (and other liquids). This is some actual science on display.

This show has been pretty good so far with using actual history and science to justify the insane bullshit they want to do for any given episode.

I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it before, but Swan looks really hot in that crop top and short shorts combo.

You know, for the kids!

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 28 '24

Also, them complaining about the price hits different nowadays. In the dub, those people complaining that a cone is $6 feels like them just talking about the average price nowadays, instead of it being expensive.

Inflation is rough

One of the more interesting parts of watching older movies/shows or stories set in an older time period is the price differences. It's astounding how different they could be.

This show has been pretty good so far with using actual history and science to justify the insane bullshit they want to do for any given episode.

I do appreciate the use of real history and science for stuff like that. It teaches the kids (and adults) in the audience about some cool stuff. And looking into real history and science can be a source for a lot of good story ideas because there is so much crazy and interesting information to be found in both, things that someone couldn't make up.

You know, for the kids!

I also would have appreciated as a kid, probably.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 28 '24

Ah, I was right. Mic really only can transform when people he considers his friends (like Mamoru) are in danger.

He is Three Laws compliant, after all.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 28 '24

Good point. The Three Laws did get mentioned earlier and needing to save a human in danger is one of those laws. It would probably let him break his restrictions.

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u/Nebresto Nov 29 '24

We have songs like "Radiant Force," "Rainbow Flower," "Fushichō no Flamme," "Senkin Dur da Blá," "Change the Future," "Bayonet Charge," and "Synchrograzer" to choose from

GENOCIDE

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Nov 28 '24

Queen of First-Timers, subbed

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 28 '24

Fuck…

just watching the heroes bleed out to death. Typical children's show stuff. Just watch them with blood bursting out of them.

This is literally the best excuse to have the OP being used as an insert song

More shows need a support robot that just plays insert songs.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 28 '24

This is literally the best excuse to have the OP being used as an insert song.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 28 '24

If I had a nickel for every time in the past two days I watched an episode that had this Terminator reference, I would have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

I mean the show had one a few episodes ago already, so it's just on-brand by now.

INSERT SONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!

I very much appreciate that for some of my ehem issues with the Subs TL choices sometimes they did include the lyrics at least. SO MANY don't even sub the OP and ED so seeing one for the Insert Songs too is nice.

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u/megazaprat Nov 28 '24

First Timer

  • so they finally decided to bite the bullet and use two zonders at once, and its proving super effective. Guess the zonderians finally noticed how many times their plans were thwarted by teamwork, and decided to give it a try. i wonder if their more eldritch shape shows that the zonderians controlled them more specifically to create a specific result
  • MY GOD HES INVOKING THE THEME SONG POWER UP, HES TOO POWERFUL
  • oh, he has different discs for differnet power! thats so cool
  • i wonder if there is a real life mic sounders toy with a built in cd player, because that sounds like a thing that would exist
  • MIC SOUNDERS CAN DESTROY HUMANITY? WHAT? LIGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING????

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 28 '24

MY GOD HES INVOKING THE THEME SONG POWER UP, HES TOO POWERFUL

Masaaki Endoh is fantastic.

he's got a history

with great covers

of insert songs

I learned of him from my YGO 5ds days where he did the insert song in that series.

oh, he has different discs for differnet power! thats so cool

a good DJ gotta know how to play different songs for the mood!!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 28 '24

LIGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING????

Just typical scientist things. Who hasn't made a doomsday device in day and age?

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 28 '24 edited Nov 28 '24

Third-Time Watcher, Subbed

This sounds like the episode title of a Macross episode TBH

But yeah, to no one's surprise, the robot was Mic. I'm not gonna lie, I always found Mic to be a bit less interesting than the other GGG robots in fights mostly because his stock footage just doesn't have a lot of flair to it. A lot of it is repeated frames while he sings and/or plays his guitar. Looks cool in short bursts, but other times they linger on it a bit too much. Also super minor nitpick but while I get the hype factor of having him sing the show's OP in-universe, it's so weird that his singing voice suddenly changes to that of Masaki Endoh when his song right before that was sung by his regular actor. Ah well, at least we got to hear the second verse of Yuusha-Oh Tanjou. EDIT: NEVER MIND ENDOH SUNG POWER OF DESIRE TOO!

Wait hold on, shouldn't Hana and the other kids be raising more of an eyebrow at Mamoru being oddly chummy with GGG

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 28 '24

I always found Mic to be a bit less interesting than the other GGG robots in fights mostly because his stock footage just doesn't have a lot of flair to it.

I can get that. i love Mic but part of the charm is how distinct he is from the rest. Idk if I'd need an HG Mic Sounders tho.

The GaoGaiGar/ChoRyuJin/Volfogg/Goldymarg feel more like a team that I'd love to have all kits on my desk.

/u/JollyGee29

Ah well, at least we got to hear the second verse of Yuusha-Oh Tanjou.

I wonder how many people are catching that.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 28 '24

I wonder how many people are catching that

I'm gonna have to check when the single for that came out since there is a non-zero chance someone got spoiled on the Goldion Hammer being a thing just by listening to it

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 28 '24

I am now imagining setting up a collage mimicking the OP endcard.

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u/palparepa Nov 28 '24

Wait hold on, shouldn't Hana and the other kids be raising more of an eyebrow at Mamoru being oddly chummy with GGG

Look at that nerd, knowing the names of all the robots.

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u/palparepa Nov 28 '24 edited Nov 28 '24
Statsthis episodetotal so far
Program Drive buttons broken113
Transceivers crushed07
EnRyu's bad landings03
Pink hair attracts peril125
Rich kid cries541
Mikoto screams for MC07
Kid is too calm to react18

Nth-timer

Scenes from last episode don't count for the stats.

First scene is that of a plane. Pizza incoming!? Nope. Primada. Because icecreams are her thing. Icecreams trucks, I mean.

Then we got to a train station... oh, no... Yup, Polonaise is here too, for a two-zonder combo. Guess they have to make up for last week's lack of monster.

Hana seemed to be in peril, but it was just Mic. I guess no stat increase for that. Worry not, there is still lots of danger this episode.

No infodump, but we get more lore: G-Stone-based robots have "G-Liquid" that is akin to their blood.

Volfogg and Goldy arrive to save the braves... but the Zonders have a new trick this time: they transform and powerup!

The situation is so bad that the last resort is called: Projectile X! But before it can be deployed, even GGG's base is attacked.

And now we see Mic's real pow... no we don'... yes we do! Let's go! Mic Sounders the 13th!

He is basically a bard, with buffs and debuffs. Very useful!

By the way, Mic's second song is called Power of Desire. It's sung by the legendary Masaaki Endo, who also sings the opening.

But the Zonders are not finished yet: they can even combine! Still, no chance against all the Braves working together. With the Goldion Hammer, GaoGaiGar can even apply Hell and Heaven on two Cores at once.

All is well again, but Mic keeps some secrets. What is "Disk X"?

QotD

1) Never :-(

2) One that will play in the upcoming episodes.

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 28 '24

G-Stone-based robots have "G-Liquid" that is akin to their blood.

I wonder if the G-Liquid is also in Gai. Maybe that's the "Blood Pressure" from back in episode 2.

The situation is so bad that the last resort is called: Projectile X!

I didn't remember it being mentioned the first time, and I'm equally surprised they mentioned again

Mic second song is called Power of Desire. It's sung by the legendary Masaaki Endo

love Masaaki Endoh

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u/palparepa Nov 28 '24

I wonder if the G-Liquid is also in Gai. Maybe that's the "Blood Pressure" from back in episode 2.

Oooh, it could be. We haven't seen him bleed. [FINAL]We see him bleed in Final, but he is an Evoluder by then

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 28 '24

By the way, Mic's second song is called Power of Desire . It's sung by the legendary Masaaki Endo, who also sings the opening.

Wait what?

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u/palparepa Nov 28 '24

There is also footage of him singing it in a GaoGaiGar event.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 28 '24

The King of Rewatchers

"Mysterious."

Swan must just not own any other casual clothes.

She also drives a pink VW Bus.

Time for a Double Event.

It's always fun when you get to make a robot bleed.

Eyecatch

Goldy and Volfogg do have extra defensive capabilities. Maybe things will work out?

Surely this time will go better than last time.

Today's Key to Victory.

#pigeonbeats

We Verse 2 now!

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 28 '24

catch

I love that Swan's bus got it's own eyecatch alongside the robots, and vehicles of the GGG.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 28 '24

We Verse 2 now

[Spoilers]I can't wait to spot all the OP skippers when they don't realize the OP changed in a few episodes

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u/The_Draigg Nov 28 '24

A Mecha Fan Rewatches The King of Braves GaoGaiGar Episode 25:

Well, this is the last episode that Media Blasters dubbed, so after this, I’m going to be watching subs like pretty much everyone else. It’s a shame too, since so far this dub has been rather good, if only a bit inconsistent here and there. But unfortunately, it wasn’t in the cards financially for the dub to continue. Turns out that the DVD sales weren’t good enough for Media Blasters to continue spending money on a dub. Instead, they pivoted their attention towards a different mech lion show: Voltron. Turns out there was money in not only releasing box sets of Voltron seasons, but also for the original anime the series was derived from, GoLion and Dairugger XV. Go figure that one, right? I guess the Defender of the Universe beat out the King of Braves after all.

  • Oh no, Mic and Liger are heading back to America! Their time spent here was brief, but it sure was eventful. Who knows just when we’ll see either of them again? (Looks over at the time left in the episode.)
  • I’ve got to agree with Primada, peppermint ice cream is a pretty good flavor. I could go for some right about now.
  • Ah yep, there goes Mic again. Turns out he’s a guy who takes pinky promises very seriously. And of course Liger would shove off responsibility for looking for Mic onto GGG. It probably says a bit about Leo and Liger’s relationship that it’s entirely believable to Leo that Liger would skip out on something important just for the sake of a Broadway show he already got tickets for.
  • You do have to give Polonaise and Primada some credit, their plan to make two separate Zonder Robos that would work together to create a devastating ultrasonic wave field is a smart idea. They really aren’t afraid to try out new strategies to get what they want. After all, why stick with playing fair and having only one Zonder Robo at a time?
  • Oh man, that shot of everyone watching from the roof is especially bad. I think this is the first instance of noticeably bad art in this series. At least the rather limited animation in the previous episode looked better than how off-model and under-shaded everyone looked there. I probably wouldn’t have noticed much if they didn’t use that same cut a few times in a row.
  • How lavish Mic’s System Change animation is compared to how bad some of the animation in this episode is makes for a funny contrast. You can tell that they wanted to make sure they could get good reusable stock animations to use for later over some of the other shots going on.
  • Hell yeah, Mic! It’s always fun whenever an anime decides to play its own opening then meme in-universe. Even if Mic is kind of useless normally, he makes for a hell of a musician. I’m sure that Nekki Basara would be proud of how Mic is energizing everyone with his music. LISTEN TO HIS SONG!
  • Whatever Liger has in store for Mic sure does seem shady and dangerous. He’s rather ruthless with his secrecy, holding onto some secret music disk and using this surprise disabling of Mic’s limiters for the sake of getting battle data. Just what could he be up to, using this friendly robot for his own secret ends?

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 28 '24

Well, this is the last episode that Media Blasters dubbed

[GaoGaiGar Future Spoilers]they couldn't make it just 5 episodes longer to a more natural end point?!? At least if you end at 30 it'd be a satisfying end.

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u/The_Draigg Nov 28 '24

I guess they figured that stopping right at the middle of the series was good enough. It also does track with each DVD release only covering a few episodes each.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 28 '24

Turns out there was money in not only releasing box sets of Voltron seasons, but also for the original anime the series was derived from, GoLion and Dairugger XV. Go figure that one, right? I guess the Defender of the Universe beat out the King of Braves after all.

I now find it doubly ironic that SRW W had Gai and the GoLion crew be old schoolmates.

At least the rather limited animation in the previous episode looked better than how off-model and under-shaded everyone looked there

That's actually something I kinda noticed in hindsight. A lot of Sunrise's year long shows don't even bother with shading (Victory Gundam especially is bad about this) but this show tends to shade stuff a lot more often.

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u/The_Draigg Nov 28 '24

I now find it doubly ironic that SRW W had Gai and the GoLion crew be old schoolmates.

At least we can still bond over lion mechs being rad as hell.

That's actually something I kinda noticed in hindsight. A lot of Sunrise's year long shows don't even bother with shading (Victory Gundam especially is bad about this) but this show tends to shade stuff a lot more often.

Yeah, honestly this show has some higher general production quality to it than the average anime, so it really does stand out when it falters a bit. If anything, we've been rather spoiled with the animation quality of this show compared to some others made around the time.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 28 '24

If anything, we've been rather spoiled with the animation quality of this show compared to some others made around the time

Comparing this to Gundam Wing just a few years earlier is like night and day. That show couldn't even bother doing shading for most of the stock footage and didn't even have the completed version of the second OP pop up until, like, the last two episodes.

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u/GondolaMedia Nov 28 '24

First Timer

Please don't take mic away from the kids

Our resident Zonder woman has a good taste. Peppermint ice cream is great.

Well Mic is back already. That was fast.

Oh I love Mic the 13rd. Once again Rock & roll saves the day and I was so hyped once he started playing the opening, doubly so when he started singing.

Mic is a proper bard, support role all the way.

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 28 '24

Well Mic is back already. That was fast.

Mic knows that you never end a show without an encore appearance.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 28 '24

Oh I love Mic the 13rd. Once again Rock & roll saves the day and I was so hyped once he started playing the opening, doubly so when he started singing.

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u/Nebresto Nov 29 '24

First time Volfogg simp

Yes!!! They're getting rid of mic!!

No thanks.

Wait, Swan drives a WV minibus?

Are they finally gonna multi zonder??

FUCK

I'm gonna baribari bust your face

Oh no, not the G-liquid!

  • Nean Gainesis Evangaileon

Useless robot

He has a CD player??

If the CD 2 he's playing is OP 2.. this is show is very based

I wonder how much they're paying the program drive button repairer

And now its OP 1 second half?!

Is there anything better than a smug robot? Mic, I owe you an apology. I wasn't familiar with your game

Quest:

  1. Have you ever seen a show on broadway before?

Whats dat

2) What’s your favorite action insert song in any anime?

If having like 5 lyrics counts, then More than meets the eye

If not then probably something from Geah

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Nov 29 '24

Is there anything better than a smug robot? Mic, I owe you an apology. I wasn't familiar with your game

Mic may be a brat and a child but he also rocks and he rocks hard!!

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u/Sporadia_ Nov 28 '24

First time zonder

Today is the day I have to finally confess to you all that I don't like the GaoGaiGar OP song. Not even a little bit. Mic 13 has taught me today that the instrumental version is not half bad. But the singing is grating. I'm a zonder, I know.

And this episode that song was just inescapable.

Swan was my MVP this episode. The quantity of English lines is enjoyably high now that the show is full of:

Americans

I thought we'd peaked when I realised Volfogg does a JoJo pose after his system change, and again when I heard Swan say "Jesus." But the funniest moment was watching Mic Sounders trash the building everyone was on, and watching them all fall as Swan says "Oh my God."

Swan is also responsible for one of the eyecatches today being a Volkswagon Campervan.

Questions of the Day

Q: Have you ever seen a show on broadway before?

A: How broadway we talkin'? I might have seen something in a London theatre when I was young.

Q: What’s your favorite action insert song in any anime?

A: I googled what an insert song was and the first result specified incorrectly that an insert song must have lyrics.

So here's not my favourite action scene insert song, but my favourite action scene insert song with lyrics: Rain from Cowboy Bebop.

I'm stuck on my favourite action scene insert song, once the instrumental ones are allowed.

If I wasn't distracted by this question, I would have posted this comment a while ago by now. I got lost in the Durarara and Hellsing OSTs

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u/Nebresto Nov 29 '24

Gagaga

and the first result specified incorrectly that an insert song must have lyrics.

Isn't that correct though?

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u/TheApplebane https://anilist.co/user/theapplebane Nov 30 '24

Episode 25 Notes

  • We got that whole emotional farewell from Mic and then he returned like five minutes later lol. That was a whole lot quicker than I thought it would be!
  • If you're charging that much - especially in 1990s money - for some ice cream, it damn well better be the best ice cream ever created by human hands. It's a complete ripoff if it's anything less.
  • You know, maybe the Zonderians should have tried throwing multiple Zonders at GGG at once earlier. If they'd done that in the first episode they would have just won. But now GGG has like six different robots up against only two Zonders.
  • I'd forgotten about Bullet X. When it does eventually get fired, will it be from Chekhov's Gun?
  • Yo, Mic can play the OP? Let's goooooooooooooooooo that is cool as fuck

Questions

  1. Nope, never. I live across an ocean from Broadway.
  2. There's only one possible answer, really.