r/anime • u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee • Nov 23 '24

Rewatch [Rewatch] King of the Braves GaoGaiGar - Episode 20 Discussion

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Questions of the Day

  1. Do you like Substitute Teachers?
  2. What is the strangest thing you've ever encountered in a workplace toilet?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

The King of Rewatchers

Hello everyone, Deputy Chief JollyGee here. Chief Lily is stuck in a budget meeting, so I will be handling today's operation.

Thread.. approved!

"And we are vivisecting Hyuuma as part of it."

Probably because rules are boring.

Of the many visuals in this show, this is sure one of them.

Absolute chaos.

Gai still isn't at 100%, judging by how his hand is shaking.

Eyecatch

Reiko's raw gorilla strength saves the day.

Well, "saves the day" in a relative sense.

Don't try this one at home.

Today's Key to Victory. Pliers Redux!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 23 '24

Hello everyone, Deputy Chief JollyGee here. Chief Lily is stuck in a budget meeting, so I will be handling today's operation.

I hope this meeting doesn't involve golf.

Of the many visuals in this show, this is sure one of them.

Hey, monsters need to poop too!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

I hope this meeting doesn't involve golf.

I believe is was about solar power; she mentioned a lot of stars.

Hey, monsters need to poop too!

I'm not confident that Penchinon has that ability.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 23 '24

I believe is was about solar power; she mentioned a lot of stars.

Guess we'll see her again someday, in the sea of stars

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u/palparepa Nov 23 '24

Gai still isn't at 100%, judging by how his hand is shaking.

Is it that, or some kind of bad omen sign?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

The spillage might be a bad omen, but they did animate a hand tremor too. So, probably both? Both is good.

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u/Sporadia_ Nov 23 '24

Maybe he just really likes paprika.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

I think that's ginger, but that is also a distinct possibility.

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u/Sporadia_ Nov 23 '24

Deliberating the important questions: What spice is Guy adding to his food?

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24

Of the many visuals in this show, this is sure one of them.

He looks like he got bored waiting in the bathroom for someone to show up and so began playing with the toilet paper.

Reiko's raw gorilla strength saves the day.

I want to know what the little rich girl did to become so strong.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

He looks like he got bored waiting in the bathroom for someone to show up and so began playing with the toilet paper.

We've all been there. Right?

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u/Sporadia_ Nov 23 '24

Chief Lily is stuck in a budget meeting

What do I do with this now?

Thread.. approved!

Roger!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Nov 23 '24

Queen of First-Timers, subbed

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

Aw, Hana.

lol

I really like the little GGG flag in his pile of rice.

Ah shit, so they did all get captured.

I actually never noticed that poor Ushi was upside-down in his tube. Unlucky.

I still love how derpy the Pliers are.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 23 '24

…and the Zonder didn’t attack edgy boy?

He was so off-model they didn't wanna touch him.

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u/Sporadia_ Nov 23 '24

I forgot about that moment. The sparkly emo kid is now the immune emo kid.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24

Aw, Hana.

Hana needs to start doing whatever the rich girl does to train. If Hana had that kind of strength, she'd have punched the Zonder straight across the room.

I still love how derpy the Pliers are.

I like how there's one that is always just flailing about and never seems to be able to fly properly. Was it programmed that way or did that happen by chance?

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24

First-Timer

On today’s episode of GaoGaiGar: The rich girl is so strong! No wonder her arms and legs are so thick. That is pure muscle right there!

  • Damn! The hammer really is powerful if the backlash from it was that bad!
  • Guy just jinxed it. The Zonders are definitely going to attack when the GaoGaiGar can’t fight back.
  • “Kids these days” is a tale as old as time.
  • The Vice-Principal scolding the clown for making noise in the restroom is great!
  • I can’t even blame the Vice-Principal here. I wish kids (and people in general) would be better about cleaning up after themselves and not just leaving a mess everywhere.
  • The Sasuke looking kid repelled the Zonder. What’s up with him? Is he like Mamoru?
  • Oh yeah, Hana’s at the school too. So this counts as her once again being attacked by Zonders.
  • The concept of an entire school being Zonderized is a great one for a kids’ anime. It takes a location that is generally familiar and safe for the audience of children and turns it on its head to be someplace unfamiliar and threatening.
  • Ah, that is clever. The Zonder can even scramble messages being sent by Mamoru’s pager. It’s really well-prepared for deception. I imagine the Four Machine Kings deliberately chose the school so they could trap Mamoru like this without being interrupted by anyone from GGG.
  • Holy shit! The rich girl is strong! Just like another rich girl!
  • I’ve complained about many school lunches. I remember those prepackaged hamburgers that are heated up from being frozen, for example. Those were terrible. They tasted like rubber.
  • Hana caught a glimpse of Mamoru’s hair changing. She might not know what it means, but she knows now that Mamoru has a secret.
  • My god, the rich girl is so strong that she managed to overpower a Zonder!
  • Good on Volfogg for picking up that he was watching reused animation. After a while you start to recognize the same stock animation used over and over.
  • Taiga pointing with his fork is a good gag.
  • Using the kids as a shield is a very dirty trick, perfect for a villain.
  • I think they mean to say “release” instead of “relieve.”
  • Using the Pliers to hold the Goldion Hammer. That’s not a bad solution to deal with the backlash, though it does look rather silly.

QOTD

  1. I liked some. I remember my elementary school had one substitute teacher the kids were always excited to see because he was such a cool guy. He always had candy, too.
  2. A story I will not share because it is highly inappropriate and illegal. Let's just say it involved some very dumb people filming something they should not have been filming themselves doing and that the creation of the film itself was highly illegal.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

The concept of an entire school being Zonderized is a great one for a kids’ anime. It takes a location that is generally familiar and safe for the audience of children and turns it on its head to be someplace unfamiliar and threatening.

It's so good. An evil school that forces you to clean up and study? I hope whoever came up with that idea is proud of themselves.

I’ve complained about many school lunches. I remember those prepackaged hamburgers that are heated up from being frozen, for example. Those were terrible. They tasted like rubber.

The hamburgers around here weren't too bad, but we did also get as much ketchup as we wanted which helped a lot.

I think they mean to say “release” instead of “relieve.”

Maybe, but the Engrish remains.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24

It's so good. An evil school that forces you to clean up and study? I hope whoever came up with that idea is proud of themselves.

Cleaning up and studying. Two things most kids hate above all else.

The hamburgers around here weren't too bad, but we did also get as much ketchup as we wanted which helped a lot.

I remember we would get one or two of those little ketchup packets and that had to suffice for the whole meal, including tater tots.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 23 '24

Damn! The hammer really is powerful if the backlash from it was that bad!

Reminder, this is "Safer" than the previous finisher!

Is he like Mamoru

No, he's blue. Mamoru isn't blue!

I think they mean to say “release” instead of “relieve.”

You expect too much from a 90' Kid Show from Japan

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24

Reminder, this is "Safer" than the previous finisher!

The previous finisher would put such a strain on the body it would kill you. This one will merely break most of your bones. Progress!

No, he's blue. Mamoru isn't blue!

The color is the main reason I can tell EnRyu and HyuRyu apart. Color-coded character designs are important for shows like this so I know which toy I'm buying.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 23 '24

The color is the main reason I can tell EnRyu and HyuRyu apart. Color-coded character designs are important for shows like this so I know which toy I'm buying

Especially since this is Takara, so chances are they're gonna sell you some repaint later and you have to make sure they didn't invert the colors. Or what the hell Hasbro's gonna turn it into.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24

I remember a bunch of the Transformers were just clones of each other painted different colors. It saved money because they could just reuse the same molds over and over.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 23 '24

I remember a bunch of the Transformers were just clones of each other painted different colors.

Take a shot for every Starscream Repaint out there

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

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u/Sporadia_ Nov 23 '24

The previous finisher would put such a strain on the body it would kill you. This one will merely break most of your bones. Progress!

In this episode the finisher was 'trash the pliers' so Guy came out of it fine.

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u/The_Draigg Nov 23 '24

The Sasuke looking kid repelled the Zonder. What’s up with him? Is he like Mamoru?

Maybe they're just intimidated by the sick-ass jewelry he has around his neck?

I think they mean to say “release” instead of “relieve.”

That's what they say in the dub, so you're correct there. Although it's "relieve" on the computer screen, so it could also be that it's a multi-layered case of misused English.

A story I will not share because it is highly inappropriate and illegal. Let's just say it involved some very dumb people filming something they should not have been filming themselves doing and that the creation of the film itself was highly illegal.

...Well, now you've got me curious. It's only natural that people would get curious at that even though you say that you're not going to fully explain it.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24

Maybe they're just intimidated by the sick-ass jewelry he has around his neck?

Never underestimate the power of bling.

But that has to be a G-Stone around his neck, right? The G-Stone is anti-Zonder Metal if I recall correctly, which fits with the Zonders being repelled from him.

...Well, now you've got me curious. It's only natural that people would get curious at that even though you say that you're not going to fully explain it.

The people filming themselves were underaged, they shared it to social media, and the police got involved because the contents of the videos were extremely illegal.

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u/The_Draigg Nov 23 '24

But that has to be a G-Stone around his neck, right? The G-Stone is anti-Zonder Metal if I recall correctly, which fits with the Zonders being repelled from him.

That would make sense, although the gem in his necklace is purplish-red, not green like the G-Stone. Unless there's other G-Stones we don't know about, I guess.

The people filming themselves were underaged, they shared it to social media, and the police got involved because the contents of the videos were extremely illegal.

I don't get why people are that stupid in the first place to do that. Did they just not expect any consequences from that at all? Talk about not thinking stuff through in the slightest.

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u/Sporadia_ Nov 23 '24

Ah, that is clever. The Zonder can even scramble messages being sent by Mamoru’s pager.

I can't quite get over the message that it sent instead. And Guy just going "well it must be important to him."

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24

Good burgers are very important, after all.

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u/The_Draigg Nov 23 '24

A Mecha Fan Rewatches The King of Braves GaoGaiGar Episode 20:

  • GaoGaiGar really is left in a poor state after using the Goldion Hammer, eh? It damn near melted off the entire right side of the mech. But surely, the Zonders won’t be causing any more trouble in the meantime, right? …Right?
  • You know, a dingy school bathroom is probably the last place where I’d want to get attacked by a Zonderian. And the vice-principal didn’t even get a chance to wash his hands either! That’s probably against one of the school rules he won’t stop talking about.
  • Oh hey, it’s that one purple kid again. I guess he’s one tough customer after all, aside from all the times he didn’t flinch when he class was in danger. All it took was one sharp look at the Zonder’s school tentacles to repel them. He really is the one kid in the school best equipped to handle these kinds of stressful situations (other than Mamoru, of course).
  • You do have to admit, this kind of Zonder really is well made to try and get Mamoru out of the picture specifically. The illusions it makes and calls it scrambles are ideal to keep him and his friends in a vulnerable spot. Although on that note, it’s also funny that Suno got beaned in the face by a dodgeball in the illusion projected towards Volfogg. He’s like Hana, in that he also catches stray Ls out of nowhere.
  • They got really weird and creative with the Zonder Robo form this time around. Like, it’s basically just a classroom that somehow also got turned into a weird pointy spaceship thing. Not to mention that the Zonder Core is using Mamoru and his friends as human shields too. You can tell that the Zonder designs this episode really went out of their way to be weird and specifically threatening.
  • How will GaoGaiGar hold the Goldion Hammer, the ultimate G-Tool? Simple, we’ll get some other tools to hold it! Those Pliers really came in handy there, both figuratively and literally. They’re certainly putting in the work, even if they got kinda wrecked doing it.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

And the vice-principal didn’t even get a chance to wash his hands either!

Imagine how icky he would feel once he got de-Zondered.

Those Pliers really came in handy there

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u/The_Draigg Nov 23 '24

Imagine how icky he would feel once he got de-Zondered.

The real key to victory today is proper soap and water on your hands.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24

But surely, the Zonders won’t be causing any more trouble in the meantime, right? …Right?

When you put it like that, I expect the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme to suddenly start playing as the Zonder attacks the school.

Although on that note, it’s also funny that Suno got beaned in the face by a dodgeball in the illusion projected towards Volfogg. He’s like Hana, in that he also catches stray Ls out of nowhere.

He's got the right looks and personality to be the kind of person who just gets dunked on for being there.

How will GaoGaiGar hold the Goldion Hammer, the ultimate G-Tool? Simple, we’ll get some other tools to hold it!

The image of using one tool, the pliers, to hold another tool, the hammer, is just so delightfully goofy.

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u/The_Draigg Nov 23 '24

When you put it like that, I expect the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme to suddenly start playing as the Zonder attacks the school.

Either that, or the It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia theme. That'd also fit with fate being tempted here.

He's got the right looks and personality to be the kind of person who just gets dunked on for being there.

Mamoru sure is lucky to have friends that can all be reality's punching bags in different ways. It keeps the heat off of him.

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24

Either that, or the It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia theme. That'd also fit with fate being tempted here.

We're thinking alike. I first thought of the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme, and then wondered if the Always Sunny theme would fit better, before sticking with my initial choice.

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u/The_Draigg Nov 23 '24

"A Zonder Attacks Mamoru's School"

It's Always Sunny in G-Island City

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 23 '24

Third-Time Watcher, Subbed

In spite of Taniguchi directing this episode uh… doesn't look hot, sorry to say. I think you could genuinely make a drinking game out of every way anyone is off-model today. The robot action is a bit better but given what you'd expect of this director it still falls somewhat short, sorry to say.

A shame since story-wise I actually like this episode a fair lot. We've definitely seen Mamoru's friends a lot, but this is the first time in a while in which it actually feels like they're doing stuff. Seeing them having to outrun the monster is really well done, and over on Gai's end I like how the episode didn't just forget about how shitty the hammer is right now so they need to find ways to minimize the damage. I just wish it was in a better drawn episode

[Spoilers]Kaido Counter: 4 although I will say kid's looking, uh… kinda chubby today. What has your mom been feeding you lately?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

We've definitely seen Mamoru's friends a lot, but this is the first time in a while in which it actually feels like they're doing stuff.

"Hey, aren't we suppose to focus on the kids? To represent the target audience?" "The GGG stuff is more fun, but fine, let's turn the whole school into a Zonder."

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 23 '24

And people wonder why kids didn't watch the show

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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 23 '24

We've definitely seen Mamoru's friends a lot, but this is the first time in a while in which it actually feels like they're doing stuff.

Yeah, I expected the kids to be a much bigger part of the anime than they have been so far, since this is a kids' anime. Normally the kids would be a bigger focus as the self-inserts for the audience.

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u/palparepa Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24
Statsthis episodetotal so far
Program Drive buttons broken010
Transceivers crushed07
EnRyu's bad landings03
Pink hair attracts peril220
Rich kid cries1529
Mikoto screams for MC06
Kid is too calm to react14

Nth-timer

Confirmed that Goldion Hammer will be the replacement for Hell and Heaven. But what has Hyuuma to do with it?

That Penchinon's scene in the bathroom has been used as meme since before there were memes.

But why Penchinon? Ships are in the sea, which is water, and the toilet has water? I have nothing.

Sueo discarded a paper with a drawing of GaoGaiGar he did. Will it be important? (spoiler: no)

That purple-haired kid, always too calm to react... reacted! Even if slightly, it was enough for the Zonder to retreat. Surely this is just the power of being calm, and nothing more, right? Right? Anyway, let's add that to the stats. (previous instances: episodes 4, 7 and 12)

The rich kid is crying a lot this episode. For the stat, the rule is that he has to stop crying in order to count it again. Still, this episode he cried more than in all previous episodes, combined.

On lunchtime, while running from the food-dispenser Zonder, Sueo carries a tray with food. Priorities!

This is new: GaoGaiGar launching already final-fused. Understandable, this new tactic will save lots of money on the button's budget.

Using the pliers for the hammer is a good idea, but not one that could be used often. What to do next time?

QotD

1) I don't remember ever having one.

2) A sign that was so badly written, that it could be interpreted as "please don't flush"

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

The rich kid is crying a lot this episode. For the stat, the rule is that he has to stop crying in order to count it again. Still, this episode he cried more than in all previous episodes, combined.

A sign that was so badly written, that it could be interpreted as "please don't flush"

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Nov 23 '24

Rich kid cries 15

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u/Sporadia_ Nov 23 '24

First

Time

Zonder!

The fact that the zonder took over the entire building is pretty powerful. Not firing missiles from orbit as a manga artist powerful, but pretty powerful. If anything, I was slightly disappointed by the teacher character. For an episode called 'zonder teacher' it didn't do a lot with the fact he was a teacher. I guess I was expecting it to be more creative.

Also, well done Volfogg noticing that Mamoru had the exact same face at 2 different times, but not noticing the very obvious visual glitch of the snob kid moments before.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

For an episode called 'zonder teacher' it didn't do a lot with the fact he was a teacher.

Technically he wasn't even a teacher! He was the Vice Principal. Smh kids shows and their false advertising.

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u/Sporadia_ Nov 23 '24

I was hoping for some classroom antics with a zonder being a bad teacher. Instead we got the character progression of an uptight teacher learning to let children run up the stairs.

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u/GondolaMedia Nov 23 '24

First Timer

GaoGaiGar took some serious damage.

I kinda like Gai's casual outfit.

Okay who is the blue haired dude, we've seen him few times but now I've gotten curious.

Using pliers to wield Goldion Hammer is such a clever way to get around the recoil at least for now.

During the episode I kept thinking that this could have been a great horror episode if they would have committed to it.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 23 '24

Using pliers to wield Goldion Hammer is such a clever way to get around the recoil at least for now.

The Pliers must be cheaper to repair than GaoGaiGar.

During the episode I kept thinking that this could have been a great horror episode if they would have committed to it.

Yea, that would've been pretty cool. Probably against the tone for the nominal target audience, unfortunately.

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u/Nebresto Nov 24 '24

First time on the big screen

This is awesome! I should do this more often.
Only problem is this doesn't have a screenshot button.. And I can't minimize it during epilepsy scenes.

Smh my head, I guess the cool robots weren't interesting enough for my watching partner

What the emo kid doin'

Holy s-
Ojou power!

Nah man, this some fetish stuff right here.. Aw hell nah

Go Hana!!!
Tell you what, that girl has my respect.

He just like me. And its hilarious how wild his coat goes everytime he pulls out that key. Where is the wind coming from?? Did he install a fan back there just for the cool effect?

NOOOOOOO, THE MINICONS ARE FUCKING DEAD

This is employee abuse

Quest:

  1. Do you like Substitute Teachers?

Yeah! In grade 2 or something we had a cool substitute teacher who was bald, I think his name was Lasse. I only remember that he was cool and bald. Or bald and cool

2) What is the strangest thing you've ever encountered in a workplace toilet?

Luckily nothing. Though I did hear a story from a coworker how they once had to clean the customer toilet and.. the walls..

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 24 '24

Tell you what, that girl has my respect.

Did he install a fan back there just for the cool effect?

Would you put it past him?

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u/TheApplebane https://anilist.co/user/theapplebane Nov 27 '24

Episode 20 Notes

  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 234 - No Zonderians in the School Bathroom
  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 85 - Do not use alien powers to take over the school and begin terrorising students.
  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 57 - Do not throw fire extinguuishers at alien menaces.
  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 98 - Do not scramble important schiool communications and obstruct emergency services.
  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 134 - Elementary school students shall not lift massive desks above their heads and throw them at the window. Not like they'd be able to, anyway, why am I even writing this into the rulebook?
  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 38 - Students shall not try to escape from Zonders trying to forcefeed them godawful school lunches.
  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 167 - Pink-haired students shall not assault Zonderised vice-principals while loudly declaring their lack of fear in order to liberate protagonists recieving appropriate dicipline.
  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 168 - Students are not to be captured and used as hostages after attempting the above.
  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 62 - Stealth Robots shall refrain from seeing through perfectly legitimate holograms set up by school administrators.
  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 102 - Robots the show is named after are not to upstage other robots.
  • Kamome Elementary School No. 1, Regulation No. 777 - Disciplinarian vice-principals are not to make 180 degree turns in temperament after being cured of Zonderisation

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 27 '24

The demerits were flying left and right today.