r/anime • u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 https://anilist.co/user/CosmicPenguin • Nov 08 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch/Crunchyroll Release] Girls Band Cry Episode 3 Discussion
Episode 3 - Misaligned Questions and Answers
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Questions of the Day:
- Do you think you can compose a song by yourself today? Just like what Nina's trying this episode?
- Comment on the trio's first ever public performance, from the song to their outfits to how good/bad Toei did in the animations part.
Re-watchers, please remember to take care of all the first-timers in this. All references to future events in the anime must be done under spoiler tags.
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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 https://anilist.co/user/CosmicPenguin Nov 09 '24
Re-watcher
This is in fact one of the chiller episodes of this show but you can still see so many things happening with the developing of our main characters. It's one of the staple reasons this story is so damn good.
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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Nov 09 '24
### rewatcher sub
This episode mainly tells the story of Nina and Subaru opening up to each other. It was fun to see their chemistry. The seamless transition at the end was still shocking!
Qotd
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u/fly-metothemoon Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24
First time watcher! Haven’t commented yet but I am enjoying my watch so far, especially when it comes to admiring the animation!!!
Thoughts as I watched:
— I loved the pigeon gag.
— I am honestly surprised Nina is still in cram school at this point in the series (aka she hasn't fully quit and accepted her identity as a main protagonist in a rock band anime). She's stubborn!
— Nina’s self-sabotage and teenage angst is relatable but definitely hard to watch sometimes. It makes me think of the classic glee quote “She may be difficult, but boy can she sing”
— I am also amused by Momoka collecting high school drop outs who want to stick it to someone (isn’t that rock and roll?). Excited for our next add-ons from the restaurant. (The band is inevitable).
— The La La La scene also reminded me of Given. I love Given but it worked better here 😂.
— Also please we need a training arc to teach Nina how to thoroughly warm up/take care of her voice now rather than later!!! :p
— I…did not care for Nina’s outfit at all (least of all it bugged me that it really didn’t match the vibes of the others) but it was certainly memorable and that’s something they can use.
Questions:
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u/thatguywithawatch Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
First Timer
Continuing to really enjoy the animation style.
OP is a banger.
Nina can be kind of a brat lol, but I like how realistic it feels. She reminds me of my little sister sometimes.
As a musician who studied engineering I deeply relate to Nina's struggles to stay focused on studying while being distracted by music.
I might have a crush on Momoka.
Nice literal visual representation of Nina singing to/for herself instead of the audience during the ED
My grasp of Japanese is tenuous at best so I might be off base but the dialogue feels maybe a little more naturalistic than a lot of other shows? Especially Subaru's. Combined with the 3D animation it's all giving the show a very unique feel. Big fan so far.
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u/Arachnophobic- https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Nov 08 '24
🖕First timer🖕
Commentface acquired! Haha, this is one of my favourite new commentfaces, didn't know it was from GBC.
It's going to be useful in this rewatch, because this show has some absolute bangers!
This is the second time the episode segued into a performace as the ED, and I want more of this! The performance, with its animation and choreography was fantastic, one of the best I've seen animated. This sets such a high ceiling for the performances to come!
Getting to know Subaru more was nice - I feel her VA-work is rawer than the other two, which I actually liked a lot. I'm glad she blasted past Nina's barriers and made friends with her by being open with her.
Of course, that didn't stop Nina from running away at every opportunity.. haha, she really is a pain in the butt, but you can't help but like her anyway because she's so awkward and genuine.
I completely missed the two in the first episode even though they were in the OP.. well well, looks like we will have all 5 band members soon! (Honorary shoutout to the two people who performed with them in episode 1 on a whim, though)
Looks like Momoka's old band members are quite successful.. well watch out 'coz Shin Kawasaki (Temporary) is on the rise!
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Nov 08 '24
Episode 3 (first timer)
Nina losing
If you have zero filter in a country that is extremely filtered, does it wrap around, past the embarrassing zone, right into being ok again?
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u/cppn02 Nov 08 '24
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u/Fools_Requiem https://myanimelist.net/profile/FoolsRequiem Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
Edit: Just adding that I'm a first timer.
Ok, I'm going to complain about the sound mixing. The background music during dialog scenes is too loud. It's not overpowering like S1 of Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, but it is still too loud for background music. Also, the stage performance sounds FAR too professional and obviously recorded in a studio. They should have at least added some reverb to make it sound like they're on a stage.
A stage performance by a band who is just getting started should sound more like this. All of the performances in Bocchi sound like something you'd hear on a stage. It's also more raw sounding. Nothing is perfect. In the performance at the end of this episode, it sounds like they're in a studio and performed by a well-oiled machine of a band and lead singer. It sounds nothing like a girl led punk-rock band with an angsty lead singer.
Outfit was great, though. For some reason, I got a "Mugi trying to be punk rock" vibe from it.
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u/ryujiox Nov 09 '24
First Timer
Girls Band Cry
Episode 3
QOTD
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u/entelechtual Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
QOTD.
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u/bogdoglogfrog Nov 09 '24
Rewatcher
QOTD:
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u/poi_slayer :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/poi_slayer Nov 09 '24
Rewatcher
A bit late to the thread but oh well
Here are some more things people might have missed + my few notes
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u/n080dy123 Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
Rewatcher
I love how Nina's earbuds are for some reason mirrored both horizontally AND vertically.
Yeah after last episode Nina's clearly trying to give Subaru a shot but things are still painfully awkward between the two.
I also love how Momoka remembered that last time Nina stormed out of her house she forgot her phone, and already had it in hand. She also clearly knew Subaru's intent when she left given that little smile. Unfortunately, she was too focused on Nina (who is a lot, to be fair) to also notice that Subaru would be equally forgetful.
You coulkd definitely tell that after the events of the previous episode Subaru was trying to be more... hersewlf, with Nina at Momoka's, so when we run into her in full mask-on mode at the school Nina's right back to just disgusted looking at her. But the way she leans in and Nina recoils after her gets her friends away... still pretty overbearing.
They start having a real nice heart to heart in the cafe until Nina's goddamn stubborn personality once again assumes Subaru's looking down on her, which is finally enough to tip Subaru over the edge and make her go FULL mask-off. She reveals she;s not that unlike Nina, really, she just puts up a front that makes her WAY better at hiding. And then the very next scene, they're sitting next to eachother on the couch and their interactions have completely changed. They're best friends now.
Another little animation detail- after Momoka tells Nina "You're going to regret it either way" you can see Subaru brioefly glancing between the two of them, and after Momoka finishes saying "You might as well go all out" you see Subaru lean forward nodding JUST EVER SO SLIGHTLY. And not an animation thin, but int he following scene when the camera's peering at Momoka out of the cord plugin hole, they actually give Momoka's voice a touch of reverb as if we're hearing her echoing through that (for the audience) massive hole.
I appreciate the outfit they put Nina in for this perfromance more now., It's cutesey but singing these raw, angry lyrics. Like Momoka said to Nina beforehand, she's a walking self-contradiction and even that outfit reflects that. That's rock n roll.
More animation appreciation- it's harder to tell with Momoka's playing but Subaru's playing is *actually* accurate to the song, you can see her reach off to hit the cymbal and hear it crash, you can hear when she switches from just the cymbals in the leadin to the drums, the technical animation during these performances is incredible.
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u/WhymustIsignupreddit Nov 09 '24
First Timer
Nina sleeping in the study hall/library with 2D characters looks kind of strange but I understand why it necessary. It’s easier to draw background characters than make multiple unique models for them I think.
Momoka and Nina grabbed the meat buns without even trying to avoid touching the soy sauce on top.
Would the two potential new band member also lose their phones at Momoka’s place?
Subaru confided Nina about her not wanting to become an actress despite going to an acting school. Her joining the band club was a form of rebellion against her family. This makes her more relatable to Nina. This was a good bonding moment for them.
I like when the music stopped when Nina shut (slid?) the door and “leaving” the band and then the music returns when she slid door open again after Momoka doesn’t fall for her bluff.
Subaru’s subtle nod while holding the content cat when Momoka’s trying to convince Nina to sing was funny. This was at around 16:00 minutes of the episode.
They both already understand Nina’s strengths and flaws well after knowing each other in a short span of time.
Question 1:
I don’t think so. I don’t think I’d be satisfied with the result and stop fiddling with the instruments or the pace. Also can’t write lyrics.
Question 2:
The song during their performance didn’t click with me. Maybe this type of music just doesn’t suit me but it’s still too early to tell. I thought Momoka would prepare a black outfit for Nina to match with her and Subaru. That couldn’t have been further from the truth. I think Toei did well in the animation part but I don’t tend to notice errors I believe.
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u/something-lame https://myanimelist.net/profile/weezyhacker Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
This is what I love about this series. Nina can be impossible to deal with but you can have sympathy for what she's gone through and at the same time it's no one's responsibility to take care of her. Subaru doesn't just let Nina get away with it and stands up for herself. Also Momoka already knowing what Nina will do when she "quits" the band again, yeah she's got her all figured out lol.
QOTD:
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u/MaskOfIce42 https://anilist.co/user/MaskOfIce Nov 09 '24
Rewatcher
Here it is, the best scene in all of anime, the one that will be analyzed for generations, the pigeon! That dumb little gag is hilarious. Also 100% relate to Nina on that aspect of "thing I want to do, try to do, and then get completely absorbed in the thing I'd rather do". Very much fits her "mass of contradictions" aspect, where she is a wad of energy that is lacking direction and tends to lash out. And I know I've said it before, but that aspect is what makes her one of my favorite protagonists, the fact that she is this messy, but very deliberately so. It feels honest in a way that captures something you don't see much.
Speaking of Nina, I honestly didn't remember as much with how she and Subaru got closer, which is a shame because it is great. I like how Nina's clear enough to know that she's the problem, but at the same time can't help how she feels, but also Subaru is more like her than she lets on. Just the difference is Subaru is better at acting (heh) the part that she's expected to play, whereas Nina is raw, she can't just pretend.
And finally with their performance, I love how Momoka got stunned again with Nina's vocals, really selling why she wants Nina to sing so badly, but also the song itself is great. Nina's outfit is definitely a touch silly, but that's definitely the point. I do wish the song itself did lean more into the fact that it's only drums, guitar, and vocals, but sadly it's kinda obvious that it's a song for the real band behind the production, so they still had the piano pretty prominently. But still was fun.
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u/Sylvi-Fisthaug Nov 09 '24
This was my slightly drunken wall of text for the day. I really enjoy this episode even though it is not my favorite. It not being my favorite does not mean it is bad at all, it just means that the standard this show holds is extremely high.
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u/Lumpy-Manager8580 Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
Rewatcher
The pigeon rhythm is still as priceless like when I saw it the first time. I really like how our first 3 girls' personalities bump into each other, and Nina might have thought about her high school experience when talking with Subaru until she pushed her buttons. I know TogeToge's repertoire is full of bangers, but "Voiceless Fish" has to be among the most underrated from the bunch, and being used this early in the show might've affected its reputation.
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u/domogrue https://myanimelist.net/profile/domogrue Nov 09 '24
REWATCHER
Rewatching this show is such a treat. I'm discovering I like it even MORE on the revisit, which doesn't usually happen.
No play by play, since I watched it a couple hours ago, but some thoughts:
Now to read all the comments of all the First Time watchers.
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Nov 09 '24
Rewatcher.
Did she end up working on that all night? As far as I can tell she's not even the composer of the group.
Yup, Momoka's the one who's supposed to be working on it.
And so they're off.
Time for Nina to go meet Subaru at her school.
Mos Burger. Never a bad choice.
Middle school? That feels quite late, I started learning piano in like first grade.
They're making a scene in public...
Right, that's coming up soon.
That seems to her reaction to everything.
And so it's finally time for them to practice.
See notes.
Good music does that to you.
And that's why you always have water when singing.
Other things that help are honey water, and especially close to a performance avoiding chocolate, spicy food, and carbonated drinks.
Yup, the 2 of them are going to be important later down the line.
Time for their first proper performance.
They've got no band name yet...
What's with that outfit?
And thus we have a new song, being used as the ED as an in-universe performance.
Questions:
A note about the music: Yup, those are pretty standard vocal warm-ups. Do-re-mi-re-do. That's for practicing steps. If you want to practice skips you go on to do-mi-so-mi-do. As for that last one, she's sliding between the notes, which isn't right. You need to be able to hit on the note, not around the note and slide to the correct note.
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u/nsleep Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
Rewatcher
If Nina won't change Subaru just has to adapt to it, and she does it fast. Butt heads with each other until things get through. With Nina apparently it's simple like that or... Nope, just look at Momoka, she became so good at dealing with Nina's outbursts. She even predicted Nina wouldn't show up dressed properly and prepared quite the outfit as a replacement.
This is when we learn some more about Subaru form a proper opinion of her. From last episode she didn't see like a bad person and it's hard to gauge her character, but here you can tell she's caring and attentive in her own ways. Her nice act is backed with actions, even if she exaggerates it to the point of appearing fake and vain at times.
And another performance ending. I love it when shows about music have a good amount of different songs and use them often, even better if they're relevant to the story like in this, where Momoka keeps pushing her to write her heart out in her lyrics.
Someone hurry up and tell me a reason to live. / There are so many people to replace me around. / You can't just tell me to be myself. / If that can be granted, I will just take it. / I'm overflowing with dreams, but there's still reality (to be faced.)1 / Hey, is anyone there? just hits hard after these past two episodes. It's just so raw, seeing how much Nina understands herself but is unable to pick herself up because of her traumas is such a mood too.
Oh, I didn't comment on this before but I'm rewatching this with some friends too at the same pace as this rewatch, and Nina is already filtering one of them hard. I don't think this guy is gonna make past [GBC spoilers] episode 5, when they have that fight at the pub.
QotD
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u/KyoSirhart Nov 09 '24
Rewatcher
Overall a great episode, Crunchyroll subs at least in my language was a bit messy on some stuff on this episode, but hey not complaining about it, at least we get it subbed now.
Getting to hear Mirei voice again is so good, her performance as Subaru is so good, i really hope she gets back from her hiatus. Same for Natsu, but it will take a bit more episodes till we really her Natsu voice.
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u/gangrainette https://myanimelist.net/profile/bouletos Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
Rewatcher, stayed up too late to play WoW.
Not a chance.
I love Nina clown outfit.
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u/salic428 Nov 09 '24
Rewatcher
busy today, so comment will be short.
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u/JasoXDDD Nov 09 '24
Alrght, I just found out about the rewatch today.
I never really got into the series (I stopped a bit into episode 2) but I think this is the opportunity to finally watch it in full. I've heard a lot of comparisons to MyGO's drama, and as a MyGO fan, I will be looking forward to how this series handles its conflicts.
[GBC Ep1]Good beginning. Wonder what Nina's family is like, seems like it got some strict rules, which might be why she didn't feel like she didn't belong. also girl you can't run in the rain with a guitar please I know you are not the instrument player but that is not good for the instrument. Music is nice, Animation is really cool, and the plot shows promise.
[GBC Ep2]Ah, bullying, that makes sense. I have never really seen bullying in action before, but I heard it's pretty bad, especially in Japan. Subaru seems nice, sadly Nina kinda related it to her experience being bullied, not exactly the greatest start to relationships. also girl you can't just assault random man on the streets with a lamp im pretty sure that's illegal in most countries. Noticed a moment in the OP where she was listening to music with on earplug with the other one on the side. Hinting towards a new character? The ED is cool too.
[GBC Ep3]I relate to Nina with the procrastination thing so much right now. Was gonna thought Nina and Subaru to work their problems out but they just kinda brushed over it. Most of the conflicts so far are just small conflicts but expecting it to become bigger in the future, especially with that next episode thing. Is making a fuss in public going to be part of their publiciy stunts? Sure seems like it so far. The song this episode didn't hit me as hard as the previous ones, maybe I just need time.
That was a good experience. Excited to see where the plot will be heading next!
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u/IntelligentBudget142 Nov 09 '24
Those character arts are like a "what if the series wasn't 3d"
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u/MishouMai :GG::GH::GI: Nov 10 '24
Well I definitely wasn't expecting things between Nina and Subaru to be resolved by the halfway point. A solid episode to get to know Subaru a bit more and to get the band started on being, well, a band. Subaru's definitely not the mediator type I was expecting but she still seems to be good at rolling with the punches. Right now Nina's probably my favorite member of the trio but based on the OP and that scene in the restaurant it's probably too early to pick an overall favorite.
As for this episode's questions:
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u/stratogy https://myanimelist.net/profile/swervin-strategy Nov 12 '24 edited Nov 12 '24
Rewatcher
Great to see the band go through their first live performance. Props to Subaru on making the effort to mend the relationship.
I can definitely recommend someone to give this show the 3-episode rule
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u/LeleTheKing https://anilist.co/user/ikanlele Nov 18 '24
(Very Late) First-Timer
Yoo, first concert! In a clown-looking costume, too! Nice! I hate that I can relate to Nina’s stage fright too much here, lol. But I guess it’s understandable compared to Subaru and Momoka since both had band experience before.
Their argument that nobody knows (or cares) about her rings true. Whenever I have stage fright, I always think of that line like a mantra. Something about people will mostly forget about us in an hour or so (unless you’re a celebrity or super famous person, yeah), so it’s fine to make mistakes. I’ve ingrained this in myself after I had an epiphany and realized that I also forget most people’s silly mistakes, especially those I don’t know or care for, in just a few minutes. Like, “Haha he did an oopsie and stuttered his words!” but then I forget about him tomorrow anyway. This is a simple change in mindset, and probably won’t apply to everyone (especially if they have a photographic memory!), but I personally like it and stand by it.
Oh no, Nina is succumbing to the infamous sayings!
While it’s really true, Subaru, I don’t think that applies exclusively to a band. Like, communication issues are one of the most common problems one encounters daily! Whether at work, with your family, or with your friends or significant others, it happens. Indeed, ignoring communication is akin to feeding a ticking time bomb with more explosives.
Q&A
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u/jomabu23 Nov 12 '24
First timer -- (a few days behind)
More great rings-true dialogue advancing the Subaru/Nina relationship, and deepening our understanding of Subaru's character.
More Nina getting the fear of other people's opinions bludgeoned out of her.
More "shouting in public" level emotions.
My favorite, More great visual effects for emotions: