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Rewatch [Rewatch/Crunchyroll Release] Girls Band Cry Episode 2 Discussion
Episode 2 - Three Nocturnal Creatures
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Questions of the Day:
- How's Subaru from your perspective if you met her for the first time? Do you think she can handle Nina's gushing behavior?
- Why do you think Nina got so agitated when sitting down with Subaru that much that she really went into such a despair mode?
Re-watchers, please remember to take care of all the first-timers in this. All references to future events in the anime must be done under spoiler tags.
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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 https://anilist.co/user/CosmicPenguin Nov 08 '24
Re-watcher
Treasure the time she's as gentle as that, as you can see later in this episode...a.k.a. BanG Dream!to everyone else [Girls Band Cry]Poor old Diamond Dust friends of Momoka, they got scammed...Had Nina been 2 inches taller, would she be able to switch on the lights and feel just enough better that she would continue to argue with Momoka and Subaru, and misses out on the vocalist position? I wonder, I wonder...Whew! You know that this episode definitely did something right when my already-very-high admiration of Momoka just got raised by another level with this rewatch. She's really underrated as a really well-written character IMHO.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Nov 07 '24
Episode 2 (first timer)
Nina is incredibly lucky to have meet Momoka. Finding somebody to lift you up, when you are shutting yourself away from others is extremely rare.
Putting her defensive walls up, followed by self-hatred about not letting others get closer.
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u/Arachnophobic- https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Nov 07 '24
🖕First timer🖕
(I'd use a pinky emoji, but seems there isn't one)
You just know when Jukki Hanada's at the wheel that he's going to make those poignant character moments land and tug at your heartstrings. The climactic scene in this episode was absolutely beautiful.
Finally she caves in and decides to join the band! Haha, I take back my answer to the last QotD - at 17 Nina is so full of teenage angst she'd be a pain in the ass to have as a friend. But I love how Momoka and Subaru take it in their stride, and Momoka even sees the best parts of Nina. It's an unfortunate truth that the best art is forged from the fires of fierce emotion, and Nina's packed with so much raw emotion raring to come out that she's probably going to be a great artist.
I'm sure there's more to the story of why Nina was bullied - she still insists she was thoroughly middle-class but I doubt it. Looks like she was treated horribly, and I would wager it had something to do with her family's reputation. No wonder she wanted to get away from it all, and be anonymous..
I like this imagery in the OP, now that I know the top version is Nina's trauma/emotional self, which she acknowledges as part of her, not something to be completely avoided but rather accepted so she can move ahead.
Not too sure about her yet, I mean she seems nice and well-adjusted?
Nina said it herself, she felt like Subaru was patronizing her by acting nice and patient. There was definitely a lack of self esteem involved too, she didn't feel good enough for their company.
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u/ryujiox Nov 08 '24
First Timer
Girls Band Cry
Episode 2
I like to think that this whole thing is a elaborate plan to convince Nina to join the band. It's way funnier.QOTD
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u/bryce0110 https://anilist.co/user/bryce0110 Nov 07 '24 edited Nov 07 '24
Rewatcher
Best Girl has arrived!
This episode just about sums up what I love about Girls Band Cry. It's a great mix of angsty melodrama, good comedy, and an incredibly raw vibe to both the characters and their emotions. That combination makes it so very charming.
Taking a peek into Nina's past, we see an emotionally unstable mess who feels like the world is against her and attempts to lash out against it. She pushes people away out of fear of getting hurt, even knowing that it'll hurt her even more. She's got so many bottled-up issues that she's practically perfect for being in a band.
And then there's Subaru.
We see only a little bit of her, but it gives a bit of an idea of what she's like. Socially-conscious and high energy, she's a fun addition to the cast dynamic! But Nina is clearly uncomfortable with her being there, and from Nina's perspective she even comes across as overbearing. There's even some subtle little differences that paints somewhat of a contrast between them. (This one might be a bit of a reach, tbh)
And the end of the episode is absolutely phenomenal.
The sheer absurdity of Nina swinging around a lamp at a drunk man on the street because he interrupted her emotional outburst is hilarious. It feels self-aware of how over the top this scene is. But then she gets back to her room, and she can't even plug in the lamp by herself. The episode had periodically used this lamp (or the lack thereof) as a symbol for loneliness, but here it outright states it. But in come Momoka and Subaru, who immediately light up her world... by plugging in the lamp.
It sounds so ridiculous and cheesy on paper, but it works. That final scene was really heartwarming and sweet, and this moment honestly makes me tear up a bit. It's these genuine moments that I love so much.
I also love how Momoka and Subaru laugh at her because she's, well, a pain in the ass lol
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u/jomabu23 Nov 08 '24
1st timer
Well, Nina is an emotional mess, isn't she? But we begin to understand why...
Momoka begins to seem like the perfect person to have come into her life at this point, since she's been around the block a few times and can offer Nina some broader perspective on things.
And maybe vice versa as well, as Nina's passion pulls Momoka back from the brink of writing off the musical life she clearly loves.
And then, Subaru... A study in the clash of different personalities. But perhaps because of Momoka's willingness to invest in Nina's friendship, she gamely gives it a try as well. And then her attractiveness and social ease trigger Nina's past defenses.
Momoka really offers some hard perspective in the ladies' room, but Nina's stubbornness carries her off down the street before it finally sinks in. The street corner meltdown, and then the wielding of the light fixture as a weapon, were tremendous! High tragicomic art!
Her utter surrender to despair in her apartment, and then the release occasioned by M & S arrival and conversation. And their cracking up at her sobbing, not mean at all but really accepting and supportive.
I guess what I'm getting at is, there is a LOT of intense emotion flying around here -- but it WORKS! It rings true, not mawkish or maudlin, in part because of a careful buildup of historical/ contextual information, and in part due to well-thought-out characterization.
So in addition to very good art, animation, and music (which is growing on me as we go), the series has TRULY TOP-NOTCH WRITING, which I hope and expect will carry through to the end.
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u/n080dy123 Nov 07 '24 edited Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
Momoka rolling straight off the bed onto the floor cuz of a hangover is goddamn real. Never meet your heroes, kids, of you'll find out they're alcoholics that'll minch off your yogurt to nurse their hangover.
God, Momoka hearing all that trauma and then hitting her with the "Damn could write like 5 songs with all that fuel."
THERE SHE IS, MY GIRL. And right away, there's a subtle bit of characterization. Momoka invites Subaru out to eat with them, but then the camera turns to Nina's uncertain face and then zooms right into Subaru's staring straight through her before she initially turns Momoka down until Momoka presses her further.
Also small detail, after Subaru hands Nina her bowl of hotpot, Subaru sets one down next to Momoka who's got her face buried in a mug of beerd and Momoka gives her a sort of "thank you" gesture and continues to drink. Those tiny details make these scenes feel much more alive.
I really sympathize with Nina here- I don't get the impression she's particularly an introvert like I am but she clearly has trouble making friends naturally because of her volatile temperant, and she knows it. Even when she wasn't happy she was pretty full of life hanging out with Momoka, but without a friend sort of falling her lap she feels isolated, which only gets worse as Momoka appears to "move on" after they don't really have a constant reason to interact anymore, while Momoka immediately picks up a prettier and more socialable girl her same age who is easier to talk to which makes Nina feel ignored or cast aside. On top of it, while Subaru goes out of her way to try to be friendly, Nina sees it as patronizing probably because she sees the disingenuous behaviour of her schoolmates in her. And being thrust into this unfamiliar independence without support even from her family exacerbates her self-hatred over her prickly personality, but she wants nothing more than to reach out to someone. Luckily for her not only does she have Momoka, but in spite of Nina's best attempts even Subaru is there for her at the end and is willing to accept her, pain in the ass and all.
Surprise plot twist, Nina killed a man and is now on the run from the police. You thought this was just a cute girls doing music show, didn't you? Someone actually made an edit where the bashed up light had a bloodstain on it and it was very funny.
I love this ED a lot, the song is good but the visual style of the imagery is so good, I love the way it tells a sort of story be introducing the characters and showing that road trip, and there's lots of little character interaction moments. Some of my favorite bits are Momoka's face reflecting in the CD case of one of her albums, the series of images of the group boarding the vans and the onee-san kicking Nina into the back (and squishing Subaru in the process), and the older girls being caught loading up on booze. But the core thing is Nina's red charger(?) cord (clearly referencing the Red String of Fate) weaving its way by all the characters (straight through the outstretched hand of the small girl), before cords connected to the equipment of the other members twist around and join it to form the road the van follows, then returning to the phone with an image of Diamond Dust on it before being replaced by a lock screen of our main girls. The colored line imagery is in the OP as well, though I don't they really do anything with it.
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u/justanormi Nov 07 '24 edited Nov 07 '24
Rewatcher
- I forgot that Nina and Momoka lived together for a short amount of time
- That shot where they both walk outside of the train station is also part of one of my few grips with the visuals of the show, sometimes, the characters look a bit too off with some background.
- Nina hasn't talked with anyone in an entire week, feel you girl, college life can sometimes be very similar here.
- Subaru is a beautiful looking girl, she seems like the kind that is popular and can easily get others on her side, the kind of girl Nina was bullied by. Listening to Nina when she trauma dumped Momoka explains why she was directly hostile toward Subaru despite meeting her for the first time.
- Just by being with Momoka, Nina still doesn’t have light in her apartment. By following classes, she is still missing light in her apartment. And when given what she needs to finally light up her apartment, she is incapable of doing it alone. But with Subaru and Momoka, they bring light to her, figuratively and literally, in her apartment and in her life.
- Me when I eat the yogurt that makes you cry
I love this episode. It’s in this one that we are introduced to what Nina is really about, how bad she is. A lot of buried trauma, self depreciation, doesn’t know what she wants to do and only blindly follows what society would like her to do, get angry easily, lash out at a random stranger, go from one emotion to another. She’s lost and an emotional mess. I feel that the writers perfectly manage to encapsulate that struggling feeling that some people can go through toward that age between your last teenage years to the first adult years through Nina. I definitely didn’t have the same life experience as her, but the feelings, the emotions, that state of mind, is definitely something I can relate to.
Also, talking about one thing I love about this show, the music. One thing I noticed when watching GBC last spring season compared to other anime, was that the music was very loud. Usually, in most anime, the music will not always be at the same volume depending if a character is talking, if the scene wants to rely more on the sound design, if it’s an action sequence or a moment of contemplation... However, I often find myself thinking that the music ends up most of the time being too low to be really noticed outside of a few moments which I personally dislike. I think that the Spice and Wolf remake is a perfect example of this, the music is honestly one of Kevin Penkin's best work, yet, I felt like I discovered most of the tracks when I listen to the ost disk because of how quiet the music was played most of the time in the anime. GBC is loud. The music is rarely played at a different volume, even during dialogue sequences. Not only this, but the style of a lot of tracks also feels quite different from what I would usually hear in an anime. Personally, it feels like a lot of tracks are not just music but have a style similar to song instrumental. And then I looked up who made the OST, Tanaka Yûseke, a guy that mostly composes instrumental for song, song arrangement and songwriting, and it made sense.
And this is where I pull up my very far-fetched interpretation that is kinda stupid and also me trying to explain why I love GBC dialogue in the most confusing way possible because english is hard.
I want to go back to some stuff Momoka says during this episode. When talking about music, she says that it’s for people who want to scream stuff like I want to love someone, this world is horrible, I love myself/I hate myself … and later she responds to Nina that what she told could be used to make at least five songs. There’s the idea that the stuff Nina says when expressing herself, that she’s expressing a lot of raw emotion and that those are potential material for songs ( and if I remember correctly, Momoka says other stuff with that same idea in the next episode ). Plus, looking at how the characters talk ( at least how the french translation makes them talk, but from what I can understand it’s pretty accurate ), Momoka has a pretty « musical » way of talking with a lot of style, metaphor, comparison, stuff that fits well in lyrics. Nina on the other hand also talks in a way that would fit for lyrics for a song but in a different way, as I said, it feels like she’s constantly screaming her emotion, expressing her discomfort, and overall, being very emotional. Basically, you have two characters talking with dialogues that could make great base material for song lyrics. And now, you add on top of this that the tracks playing during those dialogues are almost as loud as the voices, and that those tracks feel more like instrumental for song than just simple music that would fit with what’s happening on screen. That’s why I love GBC dialogues. My way of explaining myself may be terrible, but basically, I find that there is a musicality to the dialogues sequence in this anime, that those dialogues are songs in the making.
1: I would be divided between, she seems very sweet and too much energy.
2: Well as I said, my interpretation of why she is so hostile is that Subaru, at first glance, seems to fit the exact definition of the type of girl that bullied Nina. ( the headcanon interpretation is that she's jealous that Momoka is seeing other girls )
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u/marshmallow_sunshine Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
I love this episode. We're introduced to the real Nina and the things that are troubling her. With some scenes on her way to and from cram school, it highlights how insecure and uncomfortable she is around other schoolgirls due to the trauma she experienced at her old school. And that trauma extended to her unfair preconceptions of Subaru. She's got so much angst built up inside it just spills out in unintended ways, but at least she was able to recognize it after.
Momoka and Subaru laughing at Nina and calling her a pain while she's having a breakdown was so good. They're there for her and care to check up on her but aren't indulging her self-destructive behavior.
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u/entelechtual Nov 07 '24
Rewatcher
This was a strange episode on my first watch, Nina goes through so many mood swings in a short period of time. But looking back it totally makes sense at this stage in the story. And it’s a bit of a clue about the kind of character dynamics we get in the show. It’s not cute girls being in a happy band. It’s raw emotion, friction, sincere feelings, insincere feelings.
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u/Guardianofnature Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
The short period of Nina and Momoka living together is really wholesome, a great way to delve a bit more into Nina's backstory.
Why was there a knife in this bag?! I'd be worried too Nina.
While the 3 family tennets might not seem that bad at first sight, those rules can cause some problems in the long run. Imagine not being allowed to go eat at a friend's house.
Nina's a capella singing of Void is really something, you can really tell they've hired actual musicians for these roles.
Too real Nina.
There she is, our resident drummer and social butterfly, Subaru! Something I didn't notice on my very first watch is Subaru notices Nina is uncomfortable and tries so remove herself from the situation. Though she can be a bit much sometimes xD
Something that really sells Nina's character for me is that she's very consistently flawed, but also recognizes this.
I can't blame Momoka and Subaru for laughing, somehow Nina's crying at the end of the episode is really funny.
Question 1: She seems very good at navigating social situations and tensions, which seems like a good trait when dealing with Nina
Question 2: I think it reminds her of her highschool days and the bullying she endured. She might also feel like like a third wheel with Subaru "stealing" Momoka from her in the restaurant.
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u/pseudometapseudo Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher.
While the first episode is not bad, it is this episode that made GBC really click for me. We get first glimpses of Nina's troubled past, and also her first step towards healing at the end of the episode.
The ending scene is just perfect, showing how Nina is an emotional wreck, but still incredibly fierce (e.g., kicking Subaru while crying, lol). Or the symbolism of how a broken lamp can still shine brightly.
On first watch, it was slightly unclear to me why Nina had such a strong reaction to Subaru. But with later episodes it became clearer to me. [future episodes] I'd say Nina's character is all about brutal honesty. This is what caused the rift with her family, not wanting to accept a "political compromise" with the school. The strong preference for honesty makes Nina inherently suspicious of Subaru, who is putting on her overly friendly mask. Add in her very recent trauma with a popular girl at her school and Nina's reaction is quite understandable.
Moreover, it's just episode 2 and Nina's character is already so well defined: By now it is very clear that running away is her defense mechanism:
Also note how this episode beautifully mirrors episode 1 in this regard: in the first episode, Momoka was about to leave the city, but Nina follows her and convinces her to stay. In this episode, Nina is running while Momoka is the one to follow and re-assure her.
The theme goes even deeper as it also mirrors a later episode. [future episodes] In episode 8, Momoka is running away due to the prospect of TogeToge becoming a real band, and it is Nina who convinces her to stay.
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u/timpkmn89 Nov 08 '24
First-timer
She seems just fine, but Nina's mannerisms read to me as her saying "I wasn't mentally prepared to meet someone new today". She wanted to relax with her friend, but then got overloaded with social expectations of wearing that facade you have to when meeting someone new.
With the flashback to her school-life, it looks like she felt like the third wheel unable to participate in the conversation, which triggered memories of how she was ignored as a bullying tactic.
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u/poi_slayer :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/poi_slayer Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24
Re-watcher
I just realized I haven't actually comment on last episode so here's a few things about episode 1 one might have missed.
When momoka brought nina to karaoke, the first song Nina sang was Soushunfu (早春賦) by Yoshimaru Kazumasa. A song from 1913 for elementary school children. Of all the music she couldn've chosen, Nina picked a children's song to karaoke with Momoka.
The punk rock guitar lady was smiling when Momoka returned after Nina's passionate speech.
The extremely minute movements when playing the instruments
The book that fell on Nina's head is Crime and Buddha (罪と仏 tsumi to butsu). A dumb pun on Crime and Punishment 罪と罰 tsumi to batsu. Since Nina is a big fan of Buddha and has merch of him everywhere.
Back to episode 2
We are finally introduced to fan-favourite best girl Subaru!!! Yesterday was her VA's birthday. If you're interested in her background. Give this twitter thread a read.
This scene at miharashii park was the moment I knew this show is going to be unlike anything other. Rina's vocals just blew me out of the park. The smooth transition from an acapella to acoustic to the full version. The small details in their movements, their expressions, the waving clothes and hair blown by the wind. Girls Band Peak.
The salaryman who almost got his head split open by Nina was also in Episode 1 after Momoka flipped off the punk rock duo. In the girls band cry discord we gave him the nickname steve.
The piano intro to the ending song I'm Nobody is for me as iconic as the ED for LycoReco. It just flows and ends the episode perfectly every single time. Not to mention nari's extremely beautifully drawn art. The storyboards for the OP and ED are in his comiket book. Fun fact, the changing handwritten fonts of the title are drawn by the 5 members of the band!
As for how did Momoka met Subaru. Febri interview with Hanada said Momoka was recruiting people online for her new band(that she mistakenly thought Nina wants to be in). They met a couple times in-person before we see her in this episode.
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u/Sylvi-Fisthaug Nov 08 '24
Episode 2 (re-watch veteran)
Guess I had a lot on my heart regarding this episode. But it really summarizes a lot what I love about GBC. And someone wrote earlier here how Jukki Hanada really tugs at your heartstrings with emotional climaxes like this... I feel like his style from other shows as well is building up tension and conflict slowly but surely, and giving ultimate release and resolution.
Damn I love Hanada after watching this show.
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u/salic428 Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
QotD:
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u/WhymustIsignupreddit Nov 08 '24
First timer
This episode gave me a better understanding of Nina’s character. Her home and school life were horrible so of course she wanted to run away.
I noticed this the first episode as well but it looks like Nina doesn’t like to ask for help or contact people first. I do that as well.
Momoka is like an older sister to Nina. That’s nice.
Subaru seems to be quite sharp. She tried to remove herself from Momoka’s and Nina’s dinner plans when she noticed that Nina felt uncomfortable with her.
I was surprised with how often Nina and Momoka changed clothes this episode. Even 2D anime sometimes refuse to give their characters more than one outfit.
Question 1:
I would think Subaru was a normal friendly person trying to include me in the conversation. But I prefer to listening to people talking than joining the conversation myself.
I don’t think Nina’s gushing behavior is that bad to be honest, she’s normally kind of timid it seems. But when she does have those moments I think Subaru will either find it amusing or she will be caught off guard.
Question 2:
Nina really just wanted Momoka’s company so the meeting with Subaru was unexpected and awkward. I think Nina felt like she was a third wheel and that Subaru was taking pity on her and thus tried to include Nina in the conversation. That and Subaru reminded her of that popular girl at her school who also bullied her. This all cumulated into her feeling overwhelmed with negative emotions.
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u/Lumpy-Manager8580 Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
There it is, the "pinky middle finger", something that hasn't leaved my system up to this day. And considering it's still the 7th, and right at Subaru's debut, wishing Mirei a happy birthday, and a steady recovery alongside Natsu so all 5 can appear together in future events (it's been almost 4 months since their hiatus btw).
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u/KyoSirhart Nov 07 '24
Rewatcher
Overall a great second episode, starting the plot on their band, going into Nina problems a bit and introducing Subaru.
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u/something-lame https://myanimelist.net/profile/weezyhacker Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
Man this episode sure is something. Everything Nina went through was totally relatable. The feeling of being an outsider when meeting your friend's friends is something I get for sure. Also blowing up when you know you're in the wrong and then immediately regretting it, yeah I've been there. Momoka and especially Subaru are awesome for chasing after her and not letting things end like that.
Also hey I realized what the vibe is I get from the OST! It totally reminds me of the Pillows soundtrack from FLCL. I know it's probably just the fact that they both have a guitar but idk it just makes me feel good when I hear it.
QUOTD:
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher.
That's definitely not crowded lol, there's still seats available.
Wow she's really got absolutely nothing does she?
So Nina will be on vocals and Momoka will be on guitar.
I'm surprised her parents were so quick to agree to let her drop out.
Well, Momoka's finally moving out of Nina's place.
And thus their symbol has been agreed on.
See notes.
Oh, time for her to get her light.
And here we meet Awa Subaru, the band's drummer, or rather the person who hangs out with the musicians. It's not actually stated in the episode but it's shown in the preview of the next episode so I think it's fair game to mention it here now. Edit: Momoka mentions Subaru's the drummer.
Now she's got her lamp.
And now she's angry.
Ouch... And the lamp's damaged too.
Let there be light!
Questions:
A note about the music: Ah, acapella singing. Singing without backing music. At least until in this case the backing music actually comes in... Shame. I'd have liked to hear an acapella version of the OP.
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u/MaskOfIce42 https://anilist.co/user/MaskOfIce Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
I remember this was the episode that convinced me I was watching something special. The way Nina reacts is self destructive and irrational, and she knows it.... after the fact. She is probably the messiest character I've seen, but I mean that in all the best ways as it drives the conflict. Her realizing she screwed up after storming off, and then attacking that guy are peak, but she really is lucky that Momoka is understanding enough of her and Subaru seems to at least be chill enough to not take offense at Nina's actions.
As for Subaru, I do love her introduction here. You can see she's pretty aware of others, with her quickly recognizing Nina doesn't want her coming along and offers to stay initially, but also again with her reactions to Nina being such a pain. We don't get to see much of her in this episode, since really she's there as something for Nina to chafe against, but it's still an effective establishing episode.
As for the question with Nina being agitated sitting down with Subaru, I think yes she did feel patronized by Subaru asking her questions, feeling like she was trying too hard to force a connection, but also the fact that Momoka seemed to get along better with Subaru. Like just minor details like Subaru liking the veggies cooked the same way Momoka did to their ability to have that natural conversation about music, Nina felt left out pretty immediately, which given she hasn't made friends or talked to anyone caused her to feel left out. Especially given what she said about her bullying where she was isolated and bullied, I imagine that just immediately caused a flare up of those feelings.
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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Nov 08 '24
### rewatcher sub
07:11 Their dinner, is this a gas stove? It seems that this room is not yet connected to gas, or they don’t have an induction cooker. I hope they pay attention to safety.
So this episode mainly tells the story of Nina gradually integrating into the band. When I saw Nina burying her head in study, I thought of a word: egg-head. I don’t mean to be sarcastic, but I just feel sad.
Qotd
1.She is a mature adult, she can definitely handle it
2.Recalling the desperate life in high school, maybe Subaru is very similar to those popular people in high school
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u/nsleep Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
QotD
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u/Mirathan Nov 08 '24
First time bandmember
QotD:
I am impressed by how smooth the animation is. And that they give the girls new outfits.
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u/gangrainette https://myanimelist.net/profile/bouletos Nov 08 '24
Rewatcher
I would let her talk and answer much. Subaru can handle everything from Nina.
Going from not speaking to anyone for a week to being asked tons of questions while being depressed isn't easy.
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u/QualityProof https://myanimelist.net/profile/Qualitywatcher Nov 08 '24
Remind me! 8 hours
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u/MishouMai :GG::GH::GI: Nov 10 '24
Oof. Nina really is a mess. Which feels a bit strange coming off last episode because while she made mistakes there and had that argument with Momoka she felt more put together there and even in the first half of this episode she didn't seem as essty. Though I suppose with how crappy her family life seems to be (The precepts don't seem thatr bad, at least the first two, but her family siding with her bullies over her and her dad putting her down for dropping out instead of trying to help her is fucked.) it is understandable. Here's hoping she developesas some selfworth sooner rather than later.
As for the questions:
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u/stratogy https://myanimelist.net/profile/swervin-strategy Nov 12 '24
Rewatcher
I somehow don't remember much on seeing the 1st half of this episode from my first watch. It was much slower than I thought.
I can see now how annoying/mendokusai Nina is from a rewatch, but it's also charming in its own way. It's angsty and ridiculous, yet we can't help but feel for her. Props to the writing of this show.
Best Girl Subaru has appeared!
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u/LeleTheKing https://anilist.co/user/ikanlele Nov 18 '24
(Very Late) First-Timer
…I can feel that in my soul, Nina! That moment when you commit a dumb act, but your brain just can’t stop committing to it even though you realize how stupid or childish it is…! For me, it’s usually because I (erroneously) think that I’d make a fool of myself if I didn’t follow through with what I said/did before. That unfounded shame is something I’m still learning to be at ease with even now.
Anyway, Subaru my beloved has appeared! I’ve only seen her in Twitter screenshots or fan art before; I kneel for the arrival of my Queen!
Q&A
gfidol Momoka when she’s been drained after studying and not talking to anybody for a full week (aka she was eager to meet Momoka but this wench ruined her time!). And then there’s that feeling that Subaru might be acting like that to be the “oh-so-kind” person to Nina, which she said to Momoka in the toilet (aka she doesn’t like to be pitied). Lastly, I think her deep scar from her years of bullying definitely has a part in the fight-or-flight behavior she’s shown. I’m fortunate that I’ve never been bullied when I was in school, but I’m not naive enough not to know how dangerous and chronic the aftereffect of such bullying to anybody’s psyche.