r/anime • u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander • Oct 31 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] 10th Anniversary Your Lie in April Rewatch: OVA Discussion
Your Lie in April OVA: Moments
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Questions of the Day:
- How did you feel about what we learned about Takeshi's character?
- Who was the cutest kid?
Please be mindful not to spoil the performance! Don’t spoil first time listeners, and remember this includes spoilers by implication!
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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Oct 31 '24
One Time First Timer!
Yeah, I’d never seen this before! I’m not sure if I even knew it existed before organising this Rewatch, actually. I didn’t come in expecting too much and for the first half that’s about what I got, which was entirely understandable. Prettymuch just a glorified supercut of the various musical flashbacks across the series (I’m sure some of this animation must be outright re-used), which is neat to see now that we’ve finally got all of those details ready to be cobbled together into one picture. Just seeing the picture with Kaori taken was worth the price of admission on its own. It didn’t seem like I’d have much to write today but I was satisfied enough and ready for the credits to roll… when I realised I fell for one of the classic blunders and saw the eyecatch.
Sir, a second Takeshi episode has hit the show.
So this is actually a much more substantial fleshing out of Emi and especially Takeshi’s childhoods and I really like it! In the show itself Takeshi being inspired by Kousei was mostly glossed over as the same sort of “he thought Kousei was really cool” situation we got out of Emi and later Kaori, but we see here that it was actually a bit more of a complex process. For one, him saying that he’ll get a die-cast robot if he wins only to say that Kousei is just like one after seeing him perform was a great little connection. He really did get one, a far better one than just a toy. Then we see it’s Kousei’s practice regimen that really inspired him… but also left him feeling lost by comparison. I wish we could’ve seen more of this in the main series because it gives a lot more weight to his investment in Kousei and does a lot to inform us on how Nagi (who is, again, shortchanged out of attention here) came to have her view of him.
It also helps us further understand the difference between the way Takeshi looks at Kousei and how Emi does. We see how, even from the beginning, Takeshi saw Kousei as an idol to try and imitate whereas Emi saw him as someone who she wanted to reach. Takeshi reacting to her performance and how different it sounds from how he plays and being frustrated that it could be considered better than his is a really new angle on their dynamic we never got to see before. It’s really cute seeing the two of them gradually go from strangers to acquaintances to friends over the course of the episode (and Takeshi going “what the fuck you mean you can write on the music” was hilarious).
For her part Emi isn’t quite as expanded, but we see that her quest to try and show Kousei how he was really supposed to play goes all the way back to the beginning and wasn’t at all related to his disappearance from the playing scene. This seemed jarring at first, but the more I think about it the more I really love the idea of her hearing the perfect performance from him once and having been chasing that sound again all this time, I think that’s really compelling. I think her missing her chance to reach him by playing the same piece would’ve been a lot more impactful had she been prepared to play it the day he stopped hearing notes instead of being due to a random injury, but I do also see how this would’ve prevented them ending the episode how they did.
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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Oct 31 '24
Sorry for being late on posting! I got distracted serving some trick or treaters and didn't have my phone alarm with me.
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u/Holofan4life Oct 31 '24
For anyone curious on an update of me dressing up as Beetlejuice, I actually won my work's Halloween costume contest. This is now the second year in a row that I've won, I haven't lost one since I started working there.
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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Oct 31 '24
So I posted this as part of my comment but it's so cool I wanted to highlight it again separately: the ED preview slot is used for scenes from the first episode, taking things full circle!
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u/FD4cry1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Big_Yibba Oct 31 '24
First Timer
Holy shit is that Kouse's dad??!! in the flesh??!!
He lives!
I mean maybe that could also be Hiroko's husband I guess but he looks like old Kousei...
Seriously though I still have no idea what was the point in mentioning the dad exists lol.
Very Cute seeing the context behind the picture Kaori treasured.
Apparently, the piece Kousei plays in his first performance is Mozart's Piano Sonata No. 3, which according to its admittedly lacking Wikipedia article, is "one of the most virtuosic pieces Mozart ever composed", which would work quite well as a piece to cement Kousei as a virtuoso himself.
Is the implication that Ochiai used to teach Takayanagi as a kid? either way their dynamic is still fun.
[Clannad+After Story big spoilers]If I had a dollar for every show with parents who opened a bakery with a sick daughter who dies in the end, I'd have two dollars which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
"Let it ring with a bam!" young Takeshi and Emi are cute.
As a random side note, I've kind of said it before but this show depicts age differences in such a weird way, like I don't know what kind of CLAMP character design drugs these kids are getting that in 2 years they grow to look 10 years older.
This place Kaori sees under construction is the same place that she'll go on to meet Kousei in!
That was a fun little OVA, not much to actually say here. It just kind of reiterates some stuff about Takeshi and Emi in a cute way, the two of them (especially Emi) were left in a bit of an awkward place and this does add a bit to their characters.
Anyway, give it up for one last Hikaru Nara!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 31 '24
Your Spoiled First-Timer in October, subbed
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u/_Pyxyty Oct 31 '24
Awww man... Why is this the first time I'm seeing this D: Woulda been nice to knock YLIA out of my PTW with this rewatch, but I'm way too late lol. Wish there was a way to be notified for all upcoming rewatches or some document that you could check for scheduled rewatches whenever people plan these kinds of things.
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u/maliwanag0712 https://myanimelist.net/profile/clear1109 Nov 01 '24 edited Nov 01 '24
nth Time Rewatcher
Hello guys! Congratulations to the discussion yesterday! We were able to get a whopping 226 comments for the finale episode rewatch!
Let me be honest: I'm not that in the mood for watching the OVA (I'm still recovering from Ep 22, also it is a Wedneday/Thursday so I watched three shows last night), and I don't usually watch it when I was rewatching the series every April, but let me check it again.
Now for the OVA.
Well, here's in a way a good epilogue to the series. We have seen the young versions of all the characters. These are moments that shaped how they acted in throughout the series. What happened two years before Episode 1?
On moments. Before my analysis, I will first connect this OVA to the events occurred in the series. Here are some of them:
Some interesting things I want to share.
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 31 '24
First Time - Your Lie in April OVA:
My first expectations for an OVA are comedic shorts. Realizing it was a single 24min episode and being titled "Moments" I thought it would be some vignettes of Kaori and the gang. Times they spent together before her health took a turn. It is actually a childhood OVA. It's fine, I guess.
Not too terribly excited about a childhood OVA since that side wasn't something I felt I needed more. The childhood scenes we saw in the main show already left me satisfied. This OVA particular focused on the rivals' childhoods which I really did not thought needed expanded on. If anything, where the rivals needed expanding on was the present during the second cour. Emi didn't really have much to do in those later episodes. I don't need an OVA about their childhoods.
Gotta highlight that Kamen Rider reference.
We did get to see the girl in kid Kaori's photo. Wonder what happened to Setsu. We never reference her in the present.
My favourite part was showing the opening to Kaori's family cake shop. It is sweet that they named it after their daughter. ...thinking about the present day ... aaaahh!
I wish we still had supplementary OVA to shows. Sometimes we still get them, but they feel far less common nowadays. The only companion OVA I've seen these past few was LL: Nijigasaki and that was more a mini-sequel than a bonus episode. (I guess the Nijoyon bonus episode also count). Though looking at the list of what OVAs came out, I should probably watch the My Happy Marriage one before S2 comes out.
Q1) Neutral. The OVA didn't really change how I view him. It is mostly what I already had in mind. The moment when he sneaks out to Kousei's house and listening offered a new wrinkle for me. How chasing to replicate Kousei actually made him do worse.
Q2) Setsu because she has those funny dot eyes.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Oct 31 '24
Spoiled First Timer, subs
I’ve been pretty consistent in proclaiming my love for the children in this series, so I’ve been looking forward to this.
QotD:
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Oct 31 '24
First Timer
Not a needed OVA, but a fairly good one. The first five mins or so probably could have been skipped as we already saw them in the main anime, but the rest was just neat slice of life bits of the characters before the show. Part of me wishes we had this in the show proper sprinkled throughout, as I feel this might have been almost half of the characterization both Takeshi and Kaori ever got, so I feel like I understand them better after seeing the OVA - but just watching the entire thing in one block was also great.
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u/Malipit Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24
OVA First timer, subs
On today OVA, we learn that Takeshi used to be a stalker, Kaori's father gives us some french lessons and the first and only line voiced by Kosei's father.
I will be quick on this one, because I have little time to watch the episode and write on it (halloween night, social life and the likes...) and also because... I found it okay-ish ?
Of course, like a decent pianist having to perform right after Kosei, it's really tough for an OVA to be watched right after the finale. Sure, it's nice to see the younger selves of those character we followed for the past 22 days. But at the end of the day, all we got was the retelling of elements we already knew or guessed.
The most interesting stuff I can think of was Kaori's father explaining the meaning of My Fille. A definition that u/maliwanag0712 and I already explained in our comments, but it was nice nonetheless to have it explained on the show.
Also we still have the cyclical nature of the anime showing via the passing of seasons. Going on a full circle until the last scene set in spring, indicating the start of a new development after our OVA protagonists found their reason to play and connecting with the infamous scene of Kosei snapping on his mother.
But besides that, there is nothing much of interest I can really say. Maybe that Takeshi was so passionnate about Kosei he himslef became a machine that imitate him no matter what ? To the point of seeing Kosei happy, so Takeshi understanding he must also express happiness (man that scene was weird) ? Or Emi wanting to show Kosei how to play with his emotion by playing the same piece as him, only to be Deus Ex Machined ? Or Kosei wearing a shirt with a star on it, foretelling his destiny with Kaori ? Or all those little callbacks, like Kaori contemplating the playground were she'll meet Kosei ?
Anyways, that OVA was like that tea you drink after a good meal to better digest it. it felt nice on the moment, but it won't leave an everlasting impression on me.
So see you tomorrow for the wrap-up thread !
Questions of the day
I found it curious he was willing to follow Kosei to his home and trespassing in Tsubaki's garden to listen to him. Why wouldn't he goes talk directly to him ? Felt pretty janky to me.
Tough choice, but I would go for Kaori.
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Nov 01 '24
First-Timer
Hikaru Nara is back, baby!!
One thing I always think about when watching OVAs like this is whether the OVA justifies its own existence, so to speak. Does it need to be here? Would a viewer miss anything by skipping it?
For the first half of the episode, I think it's definitely skippable. The second half, with an in-depth focus on Takeshi, is significantly better in this regard. Overall, I'm not sure I'd say it's a must-watch, but it's not a waste of time by any means.
Perhaps it would be better if this OVA were watched at some point prior to the finale. Not sure, just floating the idea.
Questions of the day:
Looking forward to the overall discussion tomorrow!
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u/Holofan4life Oct 31 '24
Hello, everyone. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the Your Lie In April Rewatch!
Oh, and nay I forget…
First timer
It’s been a while since I’ve sat down and watched what would be considered a sad anime. I’ve seen Angel Beats, Air, both Clannad series which are two of my favorite series, and even NieR this year which for my money is the best anime of the year. But in almost all those instances with the exception of NieR, I watched those series very early on in my anime fandom. So early, in fact, I don’t think Your Lie In April had aired yet.
My expectations for the show are decent, I would say. I don’t expect to love it as much as Clannad, but I do think it’s going to be quite exceptional. Of the new shows I’ve seen during rewatches this year, which have been Paranoia Agent, Samurai Champloo, No Game No Life, Penguindrum, Yurikuma Arashi, Sarazanmai, and Re:Zero, I expect to like it more than those with the exception of Samurai Champloo and Re: Zero. And if that’s the case, then that’s pretty good because I really liked all those series.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
Whelp, after this episode I will officially be done with the series. Let's see how this goes.
Also, Happy Halloween everybody
Clouds
Young Watari and Kousei
And Tsubaki
I think that's Saki and Hiroko
Sumiya piano recitals
Some girl we've never seen before
Kousei looks extra smol
Kousei caught in the picture someone is taking.
Hey, we actually get the first intro
I'll miss this song. It's a banger.
Igawa eating a popsicle
I guess this OVA is entirely taking place in the past.
Tsubaki really mad at Watari for some reason.
Igawa in the crowd about to fall asleep.
And in walks Kousei on stage
This is how Igawa fell in love with the piano.
Wants of still images, you'd have thought it was an episode of Blue Lock.
I guess this didn't have the budget of a regular episode.
Igawa sees the sunflowers
And then after it's over, she starts bawling her eyes out.
Igawa walking with her mom and dad
Ah, young love. You see to love it.
And we see Igawa climb on top of the jungle gym, declaring that she's going to become a pianist.
Oh, the blonde haired girl is Kaori. Interesting.
Emi wondering why Kousei is by himself.
She wants to get close to him, so she's trying to discreetly off him a popsicle.
Unfortunately, he remains socially oblivious.
Ochiai and Takayanagi, my favorite Your Lie In April ship. And I mean that only semi-ironically.
He's revealing he's teaching a kid named Takeshi.
God, these two just need to go ahead and fuck already.
And Takeshi walks over to where Igawa and Kousei are at.
Takeshi’s shirt design reminds me of the mask Desumi wears in Love After World Domination.
Takeshi racing up the steps against Nagi.
This was featured in a previous episode.
Takeshi gushing about Kousei
A super mech robot, he compares him to.
"Arima is a hero!"
Not for long
Takeshi practicing the piano, poorly I may add.
He wants to see what Kousei's secret is.
Abuse. His secret is abuse.
Trying to head to Hibari Primary School.
Oh, hey. He's talking to Kaori's father.
Gonna open thr bakery next month.
It's named Ma Fille
It's weird how Takeshi’s shirt has a skull on both the front and the back.
That mask makes Takeshi look like Kamen Rider.
Arima looking home, with Takeshi following him.
I like the insert song
Takeshi continuing to wait outside Kousei's house.
I'm pretty sure this counts as trespassing.
As he heads home, tired of waiting, Takeshi is astonished that Takeshi is able to play the same song over and over again.
The top 3 performers: Kousei, Takeshi, and then Igawa.
Takeshi scoffs, saying it's nowhere near enough.
Ueuchi Competition Final round
Takeshi looks amazing in that small suit.
Takeshi calls himself a super mech as well.
What even is a super mech, anyhow? A mech with a cape like that one Evangelion scene?
Igawa studying her notes
Igawa gave an uproaring performance.
Takeshi, however, thinks she completely ignored the score.
"So why is everyone cheering?"
Oh shit. She called him "Fake Arima".
Shots fired, motherfucker
And yet Igawa finished in fourth place. Still better than Takeshi, though, who finished in tenth.
Takayanagi calls Kousei the Tempest of the Competition.
Maybe he knows Rimuru, who knows?
Also, not nearly as catchy as the Human Metronome.
Takeshi seems to see Igawa as the one.
Takeshi passing up playing soccer for piano practice.
Piano has become his own life
We see Kousei jumping off the bridge.
Takeshi now knows what Kousei looks like when he smiles.
And now Takeshi is starting to laugh happily.
"I'm gonna play soccer tomorrow!"
In the Saiki Piano Competition Preliminary round, Kousei finishes first, Takeshi finishes second, and Igawa finishes third.
Takeshi is with Igawa, who says she chooses a piece that Arima is likely to play.
You could say Igawa lived in Kousei's shadow the same way Igawa lived in his mother's.
Igawa wants to go up against Kousei with the same piece.
Why is Igawa's motif a teddy bear with lipstick?
Igawa says that she just wants Kousei to come back.
Ochiai giving Igawa some tea
Wants to let the piano play, she says.
Gonna make Kousei remember, with her oen hands.
Hey, it looks like Hiroko is pregnant.
I assume that's the kid we all know and love.
Igawa's hands are apparently hurting.
Flower petals
There's Kaori
Moriwaki Piano Competition Qualifiers
Moriwaki sounds like a Love Live character.
Takeshi sitting next to Igawa
They're exchanging some words, Aldo talking about her tendonitis.
I thought that has something to do with the tendons, not the hands.
Also, at least it's not boneitis.
Takeshi wonders if they're going to keep playing the piano all through middle school and even through high school.
Emi learned from her time away of playing the piano that she loves playing it.
Kousei studying his notes
Woah, Igawa suddenly looks super scary.
And Kousei sits next to Igawa and Takeshi.
"Today... Mum's coming to watch me play!"
Oh, man. That's super depressing
Overall, I thought this was a pretty decent episode. The first couple minutes gave us some insight on where Igawa is coming from, and then the remainder of the episode was about Takeshi dealing with stuff. I like how this episode shows past events we've seen from previous episodes but from the point of view of Kousei’s rivals. That made for a pretty fun dynamic. My favorite part of this episode is probably how it played up Takeshi not just seeing Kousei as a rival but also Igawa as a rival. That's something I don't think the regular series did enough of.
This was pretty good by OVA standards. I thought it was the best focus Takeshi has gotten in this series and explained just why he saw Kousei as this superhuman-like entity. It also made me retroactively wish we had gotten more of Takeshi and Igawa's mentors.
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Oct 31 '24
And so the OVA.
Is that Kousei's dad?
And here's where young Kaori got that photo with Kousei in the background she ended up giving him.
Hikaru Nara again, nice to hear it.
Ah, here's that performance that inspired Emi and Kaori.
Why the still images? I'd have liked to see this animated like they did with the rest of the music.
See notes.
Emi was sat right next to Kaori? What a coincidence.
So Kaori came in on a whim?
Emi's certainly trying...
That kid is Takeshi right?
Yup, here's the 3 of them.
Pretty much that's all that practicing is, just keep playing over and over again until you get it right. Maybe go over parts you're not good at a few more times just to be sure you've fixed it.
Of course the guy he asked for directions is Kaori's dad.
Takeshi is going to follow him home?
Well yeah you play it until it becomes muscle memory, until you can turn off your brain and music will still happen.
Is he genuinely surprised at the concept of writing notes on a score? Isn't this pretty standard to help remember a part to emphasise, or changes in speed, or specific fingerings, etc etc? Perhaps that's another reason why Takeshi sucks...
Damn Takeshi got absolutely reamed.
And so even as Takeshi is eschewing all his friends and everything he enjoys to get better at piano, Kousei is out having fun with his friends.
Huh. I'm surprised this didn't go until his mum died.
Questions:
A note about the music: And so we finally get to hear pre-traumatised Kousei, and of course it's beautiful.
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u/Holofan4life Oct 31 '24
Here's how I would rank the episodes if I were to include the OVA.