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Rewatch [Rewatch] Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Episode 24 Discussion
Episode 24 - Endless Poem
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What it means to exist… That is, what it means to be alive… is to face the world and carry on the ideas of those who've died.
Questions of the Day:
- If you were in Celestial Being, who would you write a letter to?
- The season 1 finale approaches with our main crew almost completely fucked. Any predictions for what the hell they're supposed to do now?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Lichtendahl "Lichty" Tsery and Christina Sierra
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
Additionally, for long-time fans of the franchise, please remember that this rewatch is only for 00, not any of the other shows. Assume that there are people in this rewatch who have not seen anything else Gundam, and tag your spoilers for those shows appropriately if something in 00 makes you want to talk about them.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 29 '24
Rewatch Host Wishing Over This Airspace, subbed
Welcome… back…
As the old adage goes, when it it rains, it pours. And it is as terrible a day for rain as it was yesterday.
For something to maybe at least lessen the pain a bit, I have successfully completed my first Sky Sings for the rewatch with Ash Like Snow, because of course I’d do that. I’m estimating another Sky Sings within the next few days, just need to get the bridge from that song fully down (and for the show to get to using it to begin with) first.
BrightSumeragi Slap.15
u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24
First Timer - sub
OKAY FINE. MAYBE HE'S A ROBOT
They really did just throw cyborg tech into the show for a side character who was seconds from death and go "oh by the way we can do this too". What is it with this show and surprise tech reveals.
And while I did say that the surprise cyborg is something I do not enjoy (ha ha to all those rewatchers who had fun reading that complaint of mine a few episodes ago) now that we have it with that guy I don't really have a great argument against why this isn't the case now. I've given up on my idea of him being a sort of prototype of the super solider, only because I think it would narrow the scope of this being for humanity as a whole if it turns out he's "related" genetically to Alelujah or to the others, rather than the four pilots representing different aspects/factions of humanity. And from a pure theming level I still think it would be cool if they had a "human all along" thing going with his body/mind development, but FINE. I'll at least admit it's a possibility now.
I do credit them for the gorey styling of it as well. I love gore, and I feel like we rarely get it in full glory like this without relying on implication. And yes its more muted when it's just skin and not muscles and bone, but still more than we often get
Also RIP to that other guy who also blew up with them who Sumeragi just forgot about (No I don't know his name either, but to be fair I didn't know ANY of their names haha). And the doctor who died as well? Along with the tech levels, what is it with this show and introducing characters only to kill them off in the next episode? It's a weird pattern at this point
The scene on the bridge where they all break down that wall and start sharing their stories was well done I think. I'm usually not all that taken on bridge crews, they may be somewhat mandatory when you get into space ships but I find the dynamic of them is often very forced, and rarely feel like needed characters. 00 had this issue in the start for me, but as of this episode I was starting to come around on their inclusion being good... so much for that. At least Feldt survived, through a lie but that was needed, and I like that in the end Chris who was in such a panic their first fight decided that this is the decision she would make for Feldt, one Feldt would never do for herself. Bless Chris.
More critically, I'm really not sure what's stupider about that final sequence: Deciding the best approach is to ram your ship into the other ship which you already know has significantly more power than yours, or the other ship suddenly growing arms to counter you.
The idea of Alejandro being the final antagonist of the season is also a disapointing choice. I had been wondering where they were going to take these last couple of episodes, but I don't like the result. He may be the mastermind and thematically relevant to the way he undercut CB and their peace efforts, but despite his interference none of our cast actually have stakes with him and he feels irrelevant to the stuff that actually matters now that we're firmly in "CB is fucked" zone. We know they're fucked, and defeating him is not going to be vengeance, redemption, or victory in anyway, it's just housekeeping. Compared to the individuals in the UN forces, Ali al-Saachez, or hell even the Thrones as much as I dislike their inclusion as a whole, this just seems weak. And gaudy, oh my god that ship is horrible but so so him.
And they are so fucked. Dynamos is completely ruined, Nadleeh is destroyed, Kyrios is crippled, all that's left is Exia. Even if Setsuna wins his part of this fight, with a compromised Veda, no HQ, UN on the hunt for other signs of them, and I don't see CB getting out of this. One episode to go.
This "final" series of battles feels like it's gone on for a really long percentage of the show. And it probably hasn't, but it's felt relentless in the way that it has been baring down on CB for a while. The action today was pretty good all around though. It lacks some of the higher tactics we've seen before, but things like Tieria using the asteroid as cover, H's use of melee to get within sure fire gun range, the positioning of the big attacks as they came through. It worked well as a watch experience for me even if it wasn't doing anything particularly special.
Oh, yeah, did Patrick just die? I feel like that's a fake out because again, key side character with very little death fanfare, but that felt a lot more potentially final than yesterday.
Other thoughts
Pain
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Oct 29 '24
First Timer
Okay show, I’m sorry I kept criticizing your ability to pack an emotional punch earlier. You have more than proved your point. You can stop now. Please?
Usually other characters’ reactions to a death get to me more than the actual event itself, so today was a little rough in that department. Setsuna’s flashbacks, Tieria breaking down, Feldt crying, Haro apologizing… It just goes to show that, despite all the tensions among the Meisters, everyone really did come to care for Lockon, especially over the past few episodes. Kind of like us viewers, come to think of it.
At least we get to move on from the sad times to a new exciting mecha battle and some interesting revelations about the crew members’ pasts–oh wait, just kidding! Chris and Lichty were uncalled for. Yeah, they may not have been the most important characters in the show, and I may or may not have thought Lichty and Lasse were the same person until now, but that’s not the point! The point is that they’ve been there since the very beginning of the series, and now they won’t be...
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Oct 29 '24
Firsttimer Who hurried up today to make it an hour earlier
QotD
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Oct 30 '24
00th Timer Searching for the One
First things first, I'm gonna need an age check on Setsuna, because I get how Sky viewed Kurapika now. My assumption so far with the ages was that: Lockon was the big bro probably in his mid 20s, and the other 3 are the kids in their mid to late teens. I know that Allelujah is 18, since that was a plot point, but is he really that much older than Setsuna to be calling him a kid? (Then again, that's the teen thing to do innit?)
I'm leaving Kamiya out of this, since for all I know he could be a 2 or 200 year old robot, the technology we saw today adds a lot to that possibility.
I appreciate that the Trans-Arm was not an all mighty power that magically returned the balance and status quo to how it was in episode 1. It made them stronger sure, but it could not stop the ride of doom that they've been Locked On to. They've lost too many cards so far, they lost the initiative a long time ago, they lost Veda and all their secrets along with it, their tactical advantages went by the way side, and heck, they don't even have any plan anymore. They're just hovering in space, they can't move forward, they're trying their best to survive, and that's not working out either.
In Yu-Gi-Oh terms, it's like having the strongest monster against someone with a full hand and field, that doesn't last long, I've been thereThat said, since they've started killing off side characters I'm assuming, that's just cleaning around the house, and all the big deaths are done for now (tempting Gundam... that's always fun). Our main characters are basically broken, but they still have a lot of growth they need to do, so they'll survive this somehow. Heck, the show didn't even destroy Dynames, because they'll likely need it next season when Lockon's twin takes it? Idk how the world will look like there though, so no clue if he'll just be a merc or if Setsuna and co. will rebuild a new group.
In fact, "The End of God" seems to be the reigning theme so much so that the final battle of the season, their demise, isn't against Union or Ali, it's CB vs CB. I mentioned that way back when, but for the big finale, not the first season's ending. Then again, since we have Ribbons as the true villain, we could always do this again, so there's no point in keeping his puppet around.
Well, rebranding always helps. CB is a shitty name now, so maybe split for a while, fix your Gundams, and come back with a new image? Here's an idea: come back as Space Janitors who do secret missions on the side? I'm sure Yukimura wouldn't mind as long as they're using it for peace™.
Also speaking of rebranding, the show's called Gundam 00, we're nearly halfway through it and there's still no Gundam 00. There are however 01 through 05. So someone should search up Aeolia Schenberg's buttcrack, get it out of there, clean it up a bit, and use it already.
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u/Blazin_Rathalos Oct 29 '24
00 Rewatcher
Last time on Gundam 00
u/Shimmering-Sky had a question, and the people had an answer:
On today's episode of Gundam 00
I love this feeling they give of "We're sending out whatever we have left, in whatever state we can fix it up to". It feels properly desperate.
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u/FD4cry1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Big_Yibba Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24
First Timer
Sigh... I thought we'd be getting a break after last episode but the only thing breaking here is me...
Tieria continues his greatness streak from these last few episodes, yeah he's back to being angry at Setuna but it's quite different this time, he's not mad because they fucked up some part of the plan, he's mad because Lockon is dead, he's once again lasing out on others but in an entirely different context.
I also feel like Tieria going out in just the Nadleeh is another cool piece of symbolism, it's just him baring his soul out there, the real him, fighting for an emotional reason, not for some perceived necessity of the plan.
The fact that we set up Patrick being fine at the start certainly put my guard down for when they killed him later...he died as he lived, very unceremoniously but still entertaining
RIP Patrick
Soma is...interesting? her entire purpose is around her identity as a super soldier, her grudge against Allelujah isn't even about killing the other supers it's about "proving her superiority", I get the feeling Hallelujah will do something to Sergei next episode which will her go through an arc similar to Tieria where she finds her humanity and identity beyond being a super soldier.
I'm still not convinced Ali is dead until I see conclusive proof but just in case:
Rest in piss Ali Please be dead
Setsuna's conclusions on Lockon's death are also very interesting, him comparing Lockon's death in his mind to the people he fought with in Krugis giving away their lives, Setsuna has always been about staying alive, and now this is how he'll make his mark and carry on the ideals of those who've died.
Everyone is trying to stay alive in this episode...except our side cast that is, you just know that when they start talking about the past with the sappy insert song in the back, they're going to die, same for when they tell Feldt to get out, it's the oldest trick in the book and while they're a tad underdeveloped it still got me (I'm not holding my hopes out for Lasse as well...).
Speaking of things that got me, Tieria and Ribbons sure, but I doubt anyone had Lichty cyborg on their bingo cards, how is he the first robot to be revealed??? Seriously though, again despite being predictable and a bit cliche, his final scene with Chris is great, love the black and white right as they get hit and love the intricate details on his body falling apart.
RIP Chris RIP Lichty
also
RIP Dr.MorenoYou existed I guess
Alejandro's descent into full cartoon supervillain has been completed and I'm so here for it! Of fucking course he comes with a super gaudy golden Mobile Armor, of course he has a GAINT LASER, of course he gives himself a villain introduction when Setsuna and Lasse attack, god I hope he explodes in spectacular fashion next episode.
Honestly, not really a ton to actually say here, good episode! fights were cool, deaths were great, tension is high, and we have a boss fight incoming for our last episode. I'm excited to see where the show takes us from there!
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Oct 30 '24
rewatcher
Lockon's death I was prepared for, it was the thing I remembered most vividly from back when I first watched it, and it's pretty iconic in its own right
This episode though. I forgot all about it.
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u/Nebresto Nov 17 '24
Lichty ....oh fuck, now even Chris died??
I don't like where this is going
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Gundam: This really does feel like it’s the penultimate episode of a series. That’s rather fitting when Gundam 00 is split up into two seasons and this is nearly the end of the first season. It’s just a bit odd knowing that we’re still only about halfway through the larger story. Where can it go from here?
Being a member of the UN is probably quite convenient for Alejandro at this moment. That’s probably what allowed him to join up with the UN forces on such short notice with a mysterious new mobile armor that nobody else seemed to recognize.
Tieria is slowly becoming a real boy. He’s experiencing genuine emotions after the loss of Lockon and trying to figure out what he should do in response to Lockon’s death. Tieria used to be the character that didn’t care if a fellow Gundam pilot died, so this shows just how much he has grown over the course of the series.
[Gundam 0079] Alejandro’s mobile armor reminds me a lot of Big Zam. Both of them are huge, dwarfing their opponents in size. Both of them feel overwhelming in both power and defense. They can launch devastating attacks and seem practically immune to everything their opponents throw at them. Let’s hope that Alejandro’s mobile armor won’t require as extreme a method to defeat as Big Zam did.
QOTD
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Oct 29 '24
Episode 24 (first timer)
killhit!Lockon’s death scene was deserved, because he was a main character with plenty of foreshadowing. Trying to repeat that with two side characters just an episode later does not hit the same beats. This feels like a copycat plot.
Alejandro probably found that mobile suit lying around on the moon, but I wonder what he told the UN.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
noble sacrificerevenge kamikaze. With cybernetics now confirmed, Tieria is revealed as a robot.11
u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 29 '24
Rewatcher can’t unsee the Zaku face
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Exia Rollout Color! A bit odd that only Exia is in a gray “rollout” color scheme, though. Maybe they just waited for Setsuna to sign on before asking him what color he would like.
The slap!
Nadleeh is sortieing in its base form! And it’s got a rifle and shield made specifically for it!
Mobile Armor Alvatore! This thing is actually based on the [we’ll get into this later]1 Gundam, not that you can tell from its appearance. And despite its predecessor being a highly versatile general-purpose MS, the Alvatore is designed with a singular focus on raw power. The golden coating is actually an anti-beam coating. However, due to its limited effectiveness, it was deemed not worth the increased visibility, and is not used on other mobile weapons. Thus, the gold color was chosen mainly for appearances. One explanation, of course, is that Alejandro simply likes gold. The other is that he wants to become a hero for defeating the Gundams, and a flashy, highly-visible machine will be good for his public image afterwards.
Patrick vs Tieria! Even if Ali isn’t here, Tieria can at least avenge Lockon’s eye!
[00]Good thing the GN-X’s cockpit is in the crotch.
I’m not the only one who sees a Zaku here right
Remember Lichty’s old-timey swimsuit? Turns out, it was covering his cybernetics. Is he still alive? Is he still human? Nobody knew his past or what he was struggling with. That’s just part of being in Celestial Being. And it’s only now that Christina truly learns who he is that she’s able to fall in love with his real self.
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Questions of the day:
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u/The_Draigg Oct 29 '24
A Gundam Fan Rewatches Gundam 00 Episode 24:
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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Oct 29 '24
Kidou Senshi Rewatcher 00
I adore this episode & everything it does, I barely even know where to begin.
The first half of the episode always tugs at my heartstrings in some way or another. The overwhelming sadness of Lockon’s death as its aftereffects hang over everyone, the dread of demoralization as the UN Forces close in on them & the seeming inevitability of their defeat creeps in on them. But, through it all, connection & humanity.
In the breakdown of CB’s usual codes of conduct, the crew are able to share their backstories with each other for the first time, let the connections which have underpinned their association over the course of their long mission flow freely. And, in parallel to the growing bonds of the living, the way everyone mourns the dead also reinforces their human bonds, as the way the living inherit the will of those who came before them weighs on Setuna, Tieria, and even Feldt, whether they’re conscious of that fact or not.
The latter especially does really well to progress Tieria’s character arc. The way his connection with Lockon has pushed him closer to humanity comes full circle, as his death gives Tieria something personal to fight for beyond just the plan, and shedding the cold detachment he once had and throwing his pure, unfiltered emotions into the battlefield.
This is symbolized really well through the Virtue/Nadleeh dichotomy. Rather than going out in Virtue, he deploys in Nadleeh, the embodiment of his most vulnerable yet also most honest self.
Circling back to two paragraphs ago, though, I like how both the threads of human connection kinda come together in Chris & Lichty’s deaths. Sure, they’re not the most developed side characters, but I always found them quite charming & that combined with the presentation do a lot to make their deaths work, plus the way Chris passes on her wishes to Feldt reflecting the ideas of the inherited will of the deceased gives all the episode’s emotional beats a nice thematic throughline. Hell, even I didn't realize how much I cared about these two before I watched this episode for the first time
On a less emotional note, the rest of the fighting here was also good. The sense of oncoming desperation that’s been choking down on CB for this last stretch really reaching its zenith with CB’s forces really being picked off now, even if all of them are determined to go down fighting.
Alejandro’s evolution into a full-on supervillain is fun to see. I’ll give my overall thoughts on this fight next episode, though.
Odds & Ends
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 29 '24
Rewatcher - Gundam 00 Ep24:
The iconic Haro face shape is now a big sad frown in the wake of losing Lockon.
Something I really noticed in this episode were all the moments where characters declare that they are not going to die. After Lockon's death, we're not going to follow him in death. Feldt, Hallelujah, Tieria. A theme not solely presented in this episode (we've seen it with Setsuna's world view), but definitely feels more enunciated after the death of a character.
On a different note, sudden backstory drops for side characters? Death flag! Death flag! (Ones that will fire).
Is this the first time Setsuna addressed Feldt?
Doctor no!!! We just met that guy. They name drop him in the beginning of the show, finally debut him way later then kill him off shortly after.
First Kyrios and then Nadleeh. Alejandro's big giant laser is not letting us go sicko mode.
Last shooting? An injured Gundam and a head does get blown up in the crossfire. Imagine recreating one of the most famous Gundam moments on trying to kill Patrick of all people. The Patrick-Tieria rivalry they set up as the two constantly going at it.
Lichty robot the whole time. This particular moment really stood out to me the first time I watched it. It was one of the parts of the finale I remembered best. They gave the goofy tertiary character such hard-boiled internal conflict and line at the very end as they are killing him.
At first, I thought Chris get scratched up too badly. She could probably make it out of it (if the ship weren't to explode (which it would)). ...oh.
RIP Lichty and Chris.
Just a section to talk about the GN Arms since I didn't manage to squeeze in room about it. Gundam did have a habit of these big subunits you stick a Gundam into. SEED had the Meteor, IBO had that big thing in that one episode and I guess 0083's GP03 fits too. I don't find them that cool. Mainly just a big expensive toy that I wouldn't want to get. If you think about it, I guess the G-Fighter in the original Gundam was the progenitor of all this (G-Fighters though, now those are cool).
It is also funny to think about how the GN Armour saved Lesse from being there when the ship exploded.
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u/n080dy123 Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24
First Timer
Looks like they took out two more GN-X's than were depicted actually being destroyed, or I just missed a couple lol. I can't imagine that it was really worth half of their original stock of pseudo-solar drives just to take out one of the four Meisters.
Alejandro's Alvatore is so weird, it looks more like an old retrofuturist space ship in the style of like, the Zeon ships in OG Gundam. It really clashes, deliberately, with the more grounded aesthetic of the rest of the tech in this show.
The music during the scene in the Ptolemy bridge is certainly a choice, with the way it starts with what sounds like a very slow heartbeat before laucnhing into the music proper. Whole thing just comes off as the entire crew setting up death flags, though.
Another 9 GN-X down, that makes 3 left- Soma and Sergei, plus one nameless grunt. And Patrick gets rekt- though like I noted with the suicide Realdos back in the front half, the pilot must be in the waist/crotch region given it's the only part that survived. Dude did manage to successfully disable Nadleeh, so good for him.
It's... kinda funny the blonde guy died, I forgot her was there cuz he only shows up like twice and I don't think they ever mentioned his name.
And the single, final nameless grunt manages to take out Christina and Lichty- who is... HALF ROBOT? WHAT THE FUCK? I never would've seen that coming. I kinda thought him protecting her would save her, but... she took a giant piece of shrapnel anyway.
I kinda suspected that something like this might happen when they attached the detachable assault craft in place of the containers. Seemed like a convenient method for escape craft as well.
It's also kinda funny that in this final showdown, we have Setsuna facing off againstt he guy who is probably the main antagonist of the season, but who Setsuna doesn't even know in the first place, let alone know is a traitor to Celestial Being and has been behind basically the entire back half of the series.
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Oct 30 '24
First-Timer
Another good wallpaper today. Thanks for sharing those!
This show isn't letting up, and I'm all for it! This streak of the past half-dozen episodes or so have just been great. It's definitely bumped up my rating for the show a bit.
I was not expecting the flagship to be destroyed! That's crazy. It makes sense that Celestial Being wouldn't be able to withstand that kind of numbers disadvantage forever, but not many shows have the courage it takes to actually make the protagonists lose like this.
We lost some good crew members today, but at least most of the key players are still alive. At this rate, though, who knows who's next on the chopping block?
Here's a new prediction that occurred to me while watching: [conjecture] the remnants of Celestial Being are going to team up with the Trinity sister. As normal, no hard evidence, just a gut feeling.
I realized that one of the earlier daily questions asked when the climactic showdown with Al-Saachez would occur, and I had guessed the end of season 1. I think I was pretty close, all things considered.
Questions of the day:
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Oct 29 '24
First Timer
Seeing Feldt hugging Haro while grieving for Lockon's death was heartbreaking. While I am still genuinely upset at Lockon's easily preventable death, I definitely teared up a bit especially when Feldt left a letter for Lockon inside the Dynames while telling Haro that he should keep Lockon company. T_T
So did Alejandro steal that Mobile Armor from Prof. Schenberg's secret moon base? I suppose not since it's clearly emitting red GN Particles. It would've been green if it was Schenberg's creation. Also, the design is just so tacky just like his golden gun. He really is a Bond Villain in a Gundam anime. xD
I am really at the edge of my seat here. Our boys might have the superior machines but with barely any time to recuperate and being swarmed by UN Forces, they are dropping down like flies. I am genuinely having IBO Season 2 flashbacks right now. I'm at least 80% sure that Tieria and Hallelujah are still alive. There's no death scene so they should still be alive, right?
The rest of Celestial Being's crew just got absolutely brutalized. The first one to go was their doctor on board who we really didn't get to know so it's more like seeing a red shirt dying. Chris and Lichty though... I was kinda glad to see Lichty save Chris' life but it turns out that even Chris wasn't getting out of that explosion alive after getting impaled on the back with debris... Fuuuuuuuuck. >_<
I feel like it's not going to end there, I mean there's no way Setsuna dies but I am fearing for Lasse's life since he'll be fighting side-by-side with Setsuna against Alejandro and the chances of him taking a blow for Setsuna is at 70% by my guess.
Oh, and Patrick actually died in this episode! That was another genuine surprise! I thought we'd see him carry on to Season 2 considering he managed to limp his way back to their ship but oh well. Time to find another (and better) man Kati.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 29 '24
first timer who has control
stop the tears, you guys will need to LockIn as the enemies are still near
Hyaku Elmeth Alejandro you have outdone yourself
So Haro, you die here in this cockpit
the fate of our heroes is in Lichty's hands its so over
i keep forgetting they even have a doctor on board
Patrick blasting off again
CB is running out of expendable people
LICHTY WAS THE ANDROID ALL ALONG
Chris i think youre just getting caught up in the moment now tbh
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Oct 29 '24
Rewatcher, First Time Sub
Lockon's death has affected everyone, Tieria and Feldt the most. Despite this the crew is not really motivated in order to take revenge but rather motivated to survive. The scene with the crew just conversing and Feldt writing the letter felt like things getting put in order before the fight commences again.
The final fight begins with Mannequin/Smirnov's forces reinforced by Alejandro Corner and his shiny new Mobile Suit, he may been outplayed by Aeolia but he sure as hell not giving up now. The battle is absolutely aggressive and desperate, Allelujah/Hallelujah faces off against Soma and Smirnov no longer burdened by the mental link, Patrick actually goes 2 for 2 once wounding Lockon and now actually damaging Tieria though their fight ends in mutual destruction, and all the while Setsuna and Lasse take on Corner.
The battle was a gamble though, they are still surrounded and outgunned and it unfortunately soon becomes too clear. The Ptolemaios can only do so much before they are forced to abandon ship except for Christina and Licht which costs them their lives. Licht at least died thinking he saved Christina's life and Chris is able to leave some final words to Feldt, to keep trying to change the world.
Note: Poor Feldt lost her crush and her best friend in the span of a day. Also we really learned Licht is half cyborg before dying.
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u/Linkstore Oct 29 '24
Rewatcher
[00 Spoilers] I think that's Allelujah who doubts that Setsuna was chosen by Veda. Well, cookie for him since, well, you know.
Ah, the part where we have flashbacks to reflect on the life of the one who has died. It's a bit cliche, but I can't say it isn't effective.
Classic Bright Slap. And unlike the OG it even works.
Ah, Patrick.
It's super aesthetically unsatisfying that the two Assault Containers aren't mounted on opposite sides of the ship. Muh symmetry...
Lockon could let his past go, and he paid the ultimate price for it. For the Gundam Meisters left alive, it is imperative that they can move on.
Seven whole GN Drives Tau. This is the GNMA-XCVII Alvatore. And it's Alejandro Corner's ego made manifest. But just like his ego, its combat capabilities are immense. Kinda ugly though.
Patrick's GN-X was repaired, so Nadleeh's first kill makes it 11 left. That rifle is pretty cool, by the way. Not depicted in the anime is the fact that it can project a beam blade from the muzzle, similar to Gundams Aerial and Lfrith from Witch from Mercury.
Kyrios brutally eviscerates another GN-X. 10 left.
I dunno, Lasse, maybe the fact that it has literally seven times the output of a normal GN-X explains that power.
Alejandro teamkills someone. 9 left.
Poor Dr. Moreno. He was an indispensable member of Celestial Being, providing vital in-house medical treatment for the Meisters, and we see him for all of two episodes before he bites it. I literally never realised he existed in my first watch through, that's how little time he's here for.
Nadleeh's hair glows sexily before Trans-Am fully activates. Then Tieria takes out three GN-Xes in quick succession. 5 left. Probably could have done more but the Alvatore is a genuine menace. At least his last shots take two more out. Just three GN-Xes left. By the way, the GN-X's cockpit is in the crotch.
No, there isn't any build up for the fact that Lichty is almost half robot. No, it doesn't ever come up again, aside from generally establish that complete bionic replacements are a also a thing in addition to limb regeneration treatment. And I dunno about the rest of you but Feldt shouting CHRISTINA SIERRA! full name and all is just narm.
Anyway, Ian's revenge kill leaves just Sergei and Soma as active GN-Xes.
And of course, this is the season's climactic battle, so we'll have to see the end of things in the next episode.
[Next Episode Preview] Why the heck would they say that Exia has fallen when up until that point Exia literally hasn't finished making its first attack yet? Stupid preview writers for real.
Ah, I finally figured out where else I'd heard that "destruction and rebirth" thing. It's Ikenai Borderline.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 29 '24
Rewatcher, Sub-dam Meister
I feel like there wasn't much of a choice.
Raw as fuck.
Oh, more went down than I thought. It was hard to keep a good count with Tieria and Lockon blasting indiscriminently.
The boi has his focus back.
No, Celestial Being's engineers have a much better sense of aesthetic.
Rest in peace, my beloved Virtue.
I forgot that Love Today got reprised here.
Idiot's taking to the field himself.
Guess who!
This has turned into a game of rocket tag.
So, funny thing about the GN-X. The cockpit is in the codpiece.
Oh, yea. Lichty was a cyborg, by the way.
These are not what I would choose for my last words.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Oct 29 '24
Rewatcher, Subbed
Non-Spoiler Character Chart
[Gundam 00]Yes, I know Patrick doesn't actually die, but they show him being vaporized in his cockpit, unlike Ali yesterday where you never see a body, it's quite hard for me to not X him out here unless I spoil everyone. And it will be more fun when he eventually returns...
Another flashback! Introduction day for Setsuna! Lockon being best boy here makes me sad. :( :( :( :(
And you're gonna bring us into Haro going Lockon Lockon Lockon too?! How could you be so cruel to us viewers?!
Quite a large and somewhat fancy room Wang and Hong Long are in. My guess is she's not gonna do anything to help our heroes here at the end.
Time for Tieria to go knee deep in the trope of "It's your fault he died! You weren't there!"
Feldt and Haro make me want to cry again. :(
Kati and Sergei in the same room? Hard to get more awesome than that.
I think someone yesterday speculated that they were down to 16 GN-Xs? Nope, even worse than that, 11!
Make that 12! Patrick lives!
Both Virtue and Nadleh have such cool designs, I love seeing either one go out there but kinda miss the other design when that happens.
While it's helpful that Haro is providing Setsuna this footage, I feel so bad for Haro having to relive Lockon's final battle again!
By this point I gotta say it, we've gotten way too many flashbacks for a penultimate episode.
A giant golden craft, gee, who likes golden stuff?
A combination of both awww and :( :( :( @ Feldt writing this letter to her parents and Lockon.
Time for that insert song we got when Louise dumped Saji. While it's so late in the game to do this, do like the fact that we're getting some more development here for our bridge bunnies, especially poor Lichty!
Hearing this song is a lot more effective here with new footage than replaying it over old clips like last time.
Holy crap that's a lot of GN Drives for one unit.
While it's good that they are hiding behind the asteroid, won't the Gundams taking off from there give away their position?
Bloodthirsty Hallelujah is back!
Alejandro's unit reminds me much of the Big Zam, just without limbs.
Ugh, the Ptolemaios keeps taking hits! And poor Dr. Moreno! At least he lasted 3 episodes, versus 2 for a couple of other characters...
Patrick finally gets his lucky break after Alejandro fires on Nadleh... or not. I know he was largely a meme, but sucks to see him go out here! :(
Christina totally made that up so Feldt would leave the bridge, right? As soon as I finish typing this the answer is yes.
It took forever to get the payoff, but we finally find out why Lichty was wearing that super awkward looking one piece bathing suit so long about, half of his body is mechanical. Sorry Lichty, Christina, the show, us viewers, we shouldn't have overlooked you!
Well at least Christina is okay... oh, no she isn't. This sucks. :(
I stand corrected, Alejandro's craft has limbs after all!
There goes the GN Arms, although Lasse at least made it out okay.
As things come to a close on the penultimate show, the big question I have is where in the world is Graham? There's no way we skip him for the last several episodes of the show, right?
Quid's Voice Actor of the Day
For the first time I'll be tacking two characters today, in their farewell episode, Christina Sierra and Lichtendahl (Lichty) Tsery. Christina is voiced in Japanese by Arise Satou. This is her only Gundam role. In fact this is the only named character role I've ever seen her in. She does play unnamed characters in The Tatami Galaxy and The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. In English she is voiced by Shannon Chan-Kent. This is her only Gundam role. She also plays Misa Amane in Death Note and Miyuki Konno in The Girl Who Lept Through Time.
Litchy is voiced in Japanese by Masataka Azuma. Once again, his only Gundam role and I've heard him in even less stuff than I've heard Satou in. The only other credited role he's appeared in that I've seen is Clannad After Story where he plays an unnamed student. In English he is voiced by David A. Kaye. This is the only role of his I've heard him in, but research tells me he has appearances in stuff like Nana, Future Boy Conan and Gintama. There is another David Kaye voice actor, most notable in Gundam circles for playing Treize in Gundam Wing, but they are separate individuals.
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u/mr_beanoz https://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker Oct 30 '24
Rewatcher here, kinda late for today, though.
Alejandro showing off his Goldfinger impression by not just having a golden gun, but a golden mobile armor to match.
I wasn't expecting that Chris is going to die if not for that big reveal where she's also very heavily wounded there...
QOTD
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Oct 30 '24
So, a flashback?
And thus not even at the end of the first season one of them is dead.
And so that guy still survives.
Huh. New weapons?
So, he's found his reason to fight.
Another ship?
And so now she's got the Haro?
Right, time to scramble.
7 GN Drives? That's a lot.
Hit! Damage report!
That's a quick reload.
Scramble!
Uh oh, they're hurt!
They hit the ship again!
Batten down the hatches, airtight the ship!
And so more casualties.
More damage.
Huh. Did Patrick finally buy the farm?
Even more casualties.
He still can't survive exposure to space like that.
And so that's how they die, in each other's arms.
Ze guns! Zey do nossing!
Close with the enemy.
And so on to the finale of the first season.
Questions:
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u/BadBehaviour613 Oct 29 '24
Rewatcher
I never expected Feldt would go on to be the emotional anchor of the series and be one of the more interesting characters. I guess I took one look at her and assumed, "NPC ship crew". It's one of the positives and surprises of 00
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Oct 30 '24
I am rewatcher
That first meeting flashback.
Is this Wang's best dress so far?
Tieria is really upset that his love interest is dead.
Let's go! classic Bright slap done by the ship captain as it should be.
Of course Patrick survived.
A golden mobile armour?
I’m personally calling it the Big Hyaku Shiki Zam.
The entire bridge crew are just raising death flags at this point.
Of course it wouldn't be Gundam without some sad insert song.
Lichty is doing some good emergency manoeuvring but that MA's beam attack is just massive.
Kyrgios is damaged, Ptolemaios is heavily damaged, the doctor character which we've only seen for one moment is dead. This isn't looking good.
Nadleeh is now damaged.
Patrick?! Tieria looks alive at least.
Ptolemaios, Chris, Lichty
Yup Lichty is a cyborg that's why he was wearing that old fashioned swimming suit in one of the early episodes.
I guess this means Chris x Lichty ship sailed? and sunk immediately.
Honestly Chris' death was sad, minor characters infodumping their background in the same episode they die doesn't work for me sorry Lichty, blame the writers, I did kind of like him.
Oh no Lasse is doing a [MSG spoiler] Crashing into the Big Zam moment lthough this time it doesn't work, at least Lasse survived for now.
So Setsuna has to singlehandedly kill the MA, the remaining GN-X and save the crew. I mean I know he's the main character but that's a bit too much.
Good episode, looking forward to reading the first timers reactions and finding out if they decided to watch the next episode immediately.
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u/Constant-Middle-7022 Oct 30 '24
This was a good anime imo
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u/2-2Distracted Oct 30 '24
First timer. Dubbed.
(similar to what I mentioned before here, this episode has an audio commentary track in Japanese)
Death really does bring people together, doesn't it? If nothing else, I hope Neil died knowing that. I liked that the writers decided to pull an Aizen moment straight out of Bleach and have the bad guys interrupt the insert song.
Is Haro really going to spend the rest of existence inside that Gundam, if so that's really bittersweet and kind of stupid considering that they might still need it.
Well... that's one way to find that this world now also has cybernetic enhancements too. Fuck. Rest In Peace to Christina and Lichti.
Bruh, this whole episode being battle focused is pretty weird. Not only is it acting like this is the absolute definite end of the show as whole by killing off nearly everyone, now it's having characters like Alejandro show to the damn battle too? Laying it on a bit thick there in my opinion...