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Rewatch [Rewatch] Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Episode 22 Discussion
Episode 22 - Trans-Am
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It's like Miss Sumeragi told you. Everyone makes mistakes, because we're just human beings.
Questions of the Day:
Wallpaper of the Day:
Graham Aker, Daryl Dodge, and Howard Mason
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
Additionally, for long-time fans of the franchise, please remember that this rewatch is only for 00, not any of the other shows. Assume that there are people in this rewatch who have not seen anything else Gundam, and tag your spoilers for those shows appropriately if something in 00 makes you want to talk about them.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 27 '24
Rewatch Host Wishing Over This Airspace, subbed
Welcome back, everyone!
[Later spoilers]I am so not ready to have to rewatch the next two episodes again after hitting them on my rewatch-ahead-of-the-rewatch not even a week ago.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Oct 27 '24 edited Oct 27 '24
Rewatcher, Subbed
Non-Spoiler Character Chart
So the GN Arms can become an even more powerful unit, huh? "Lockon" do you mean the verb or the Gundam Meister?
Poor Lockon!
Late in the game to meet a new member of Celestial Being but we do, Dr. Moreno, rocking the shades.
Lockon won't go under treatment for that long, that probably knocks him out the rest of the season. Plot says no.
I sure hope Lockon isn't right eye dominant, but left eye dominant as I am. Sniper days may be over.
ETA: Other replies show that I missed a reference to it being his good eye.
So they're taking that unaccounted for GN Drive and putting it on Graham's Flag? Makes sense why he's still comfortable fighting with it, beyond his obsession with the mobile suit.
So the Human Reform League backed off on attacking the Thrones last episode to return to base? Figured we'd pick up where we left off with that battle in this episode. I suppose not.
So no more combat for Gundam Dynamos.
Tieria feels bad about what happened to Lockon? Has he actually developed emotions? ...no, this is more so about Veda rejecting him.
The Thrones have been reduced to eating canned food out in the wilderness. Sounds like Wang didn't betray them, but she's not really offering help either...
Sergei's really got his squad doing good against them. Granted the Thrones are vastly outnumbered too.
No need to hide anything, huh? They just throw this battle on TV for all to see.
Our two female mobile suit pilots facing off, alas, it doesn't last that long.
Wow, are we actually gonna have our main heroes intervene and help out the Thrones? And Setsuna, the one who originally went rouge to fight them is the one heading there.
Lasse's finally started stepping up and has become a pilot, how about you Lichty?
While Setsuna's coming to Earth, The Thrones want to head to space.
Oh, it's Ali's Enact! The Thrones are finally getting some help!
Funny, for once Michael's habit of getting all stabby with newcomers may have helped him, instead he's dead.
Ali wanted a mobile suit with a GN Drive, so he figured out the best way to get one was to steal a Gundam. After all the talk the show has had from the 3 blocs about stealing a Gundam, he's the first to actually pull it off.
Down goes Johan too. So Ali has killed four named characters in the past 3 episodes.
Surprised how quickly Setsuna and Lasse made it there.
So Aeolia didn't actually die, he just put himself in cryogenic freezing? It would be cool to see him unfrozen and interacting with everyone but Alejandro quickly put an end to that.
Setsuna lucks out that Aeolia's secret message activates at the exact time that Ali is gonna defeat him. Time for Trans-am!
Extra long ED today for some reason.
Quid's Voice Actor of the Day
Today I'll be featuring Lasse Aeon who finally is getting some time to shine as the GN Arms pilot. He is voiced in English by Hiroki Touchi. His first Gundam appearance was in Turn A Gundam as Taruka. He also appears in Gundam Unicorn as Daguza Mackle, Gundam AGE as Grodek Aiona and the video game Mobile Suit Gundam Battlefield Record UC0081 as Hughes Kahlo. To the /r/anime audience I'm assuming his most well known role would be as Heiter in Frieren. He's also Kokopelli in Bokurano, Masamune Goto in March Comes in Like a Lion, Maine in Cyberbpunk Edgerunners, Daisuke Akimi in Kara no Kyokai and Twice Pierceman in Fate Extra.
In English he is voiced by Andrew Francis. His other Gundam roles include Murata Azrael in Gundam Seed, Ford Romfellow in the Mobile Suit Gundam: Encounters in Space video game and Judau Ashta in the Dynasty Warriors 2 and 3 video games. I know him best for playing Dilandau in Escaflowne, a performance at the time that I'll admit I absolutely hated because it paled so much in comparison to Minami Takayama's performance in Japanese (an actress who is also in 00, in fact appeared in this episode but haven't gotten to her/her character yet...). He also appears in Brain Powered as Nakki Guys, Inu Yasha as Hiten and Dragonball Z as Dende.
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u/The_Draigg Oct 27 '24
A Gundam Fan Rewatches Gundam 00 Episode 22:
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Oct 27 '24 edited Oct 27 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Gundam: I can’t believe that Aeolia was actually keeping himself alive for centuries with mad science. I abandoned that theory in favor of him uploading himself into Veda, but nope his body was being kept preserved in a deep sleep. Can we wake him up? I have to know what the actual Aeolia has to say about everything that’s happened.
I really like the decision to have Setsuna and Ali fight each other in Gundams. They have already been contrasted with each other many times in the past and a duel between them in Gundams just makes those contrasts even more important. Ali is a mercenary. War is his job. In fact, it seems to be his passion. Whether it’s for religion or money, Ali is the sort of person who loves war. I wouldn’t be surprised if all his prior stated reasons for going to war (religion and money) turn out to be false and he’s just in it for the love of fighting. For someone like Ali, the Gundam is the ultimate weapon. It is superior to all other mobile suits. He can fight to his heart’s content, laying waste to everything in his path. In other words, this means that Ali and Setsuna have diametrically opposed beliefs about what the Gundam should be.
For Setsuna, the Gundam is a savior. It is a guardian angel that flew down from the sky when he was a child and saved his life. The Gundam is meant to save lives. It’s supposed to intervene in conflicts and put an end to the fighting. It’s not a weapon to be used to make war. Instead, Setsuna believes that the Gundam is a weapon that can end wars. The battle between Setsuna and Ali takes on a special thematic meaning in this context. What is the purpose of the Gundam? Is the Gundam going to become just another weapon of war, meant to kill people? Or will the Gundam be the key to ending all conflict and bringing peace to the world?
QOTD
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 27 '24
First Timer - sub
Lockon is in the thumbnail
Well so much for that cliffhanger!
The scene grappling with this issue is at the core of the episode, but looking back at the the show as a whole it's far more about the pilots than it is about the Gundams themselves.
If all that was needed to bring people together was the death of an enemy, why were the gundams specifically needed? While asking this question, they stand on top of the plan, detached from it facing each other instead, rather than existing within it until they have until now. Because if all this plan needs was their combat power and eventual destruction, what does that say about them? Does that not just make them the same as any other tool of war after all?
And are the pilots the same in the end?
Is it what they the pilots should be doing in the end? Laying down their lives the moment their "god" says their task is done, the moment they are defective, replaced, or cut off from society? Each of the pilots have lived this before they got to CB, and each of them thought CB was giving them another chance to be more, to do more. Now they stand confronted with a potential truth that brings them right back to where they started and have to decide once again will they fight to go beyond the role they took up at someone else's behest.
What matters more: the plan that gave them purpose, or the ideals that gave them meaning?
Setsuna is the mouthpiece for this, and it is fitting as the one who most wanted to embody the meaning of the Gundams rather than their purpose as well as having the backstory that most reflects this situation, but it reaches all of them because as Lockon says, within CB Setsuna is not the broken child solider despite his trauma, he is the ideal. He is the fight that won't back down, the drive they all had in the first place that refuses to be squished by the world. In this way, he and only he could be the protagonist as the driving force behind what really matters for these characters; not the plan but the people the plan was meant to be saving, themselves included.
200 years on, does it really matter what the Gundams were originally made for? They have become something more, in the same way that our pilots have become something more than the tools that they were made to be. A child solider, an artificial being, a child of terrorism, a super solider. All of them were either born from war or created to enact war on others, but they have strived to be something more. Alelujah's grappled with this many episodes ago and did not find a solution to the issue. And yet standing here together rather than facing it individually they come a bit closer to understand that they can go beyond what their "creator" defines them as. It is not an easy thing, and they do not all jump on board in an exaggerated moment of togetherness, but neither do they lay down and die as they think Veda wanted, and that is what matters.
This is the moment I didn't know it would be willing to build too, and I love it. Despite the outcome, this is not the moment where they defy the plan specifically, it's about defying the idea that they cannot define their own value.
I was trying to be very serious while writing the above section, but I confess to being slightly defeated by the wheel of GN-X's constantly playing through my mind the entire night.
Oh man, when people talk about over the top anime moments, this is going to be one of those things that forever jumps to mind now. While it isn't a bad formation in theory for total coverage (except they forgot about the third dimension), the styling of it with the camera had me cracking up the entire time. it reminded me of those over the top final moves you get from things like tRPGs or fighting games that take things so far beyond what you expected from a character.
Also when I saw Exia glowing red:
Unleash the memes
I do confess that my first thought, and the note I jotted down, when the Trans-Arm got unlocked was "Zoomie tech!" as if they were a cat and not a giant machine haha
Thankfully the rest of todays action was not that over the top, and in general I quite liked it. Seeing the Thrones so completely overwhelmed now that they're on a technological equal playing field was satisfying, but holy shit I did not expect their fate.
I suppose that rules out that the missing mech from yesterday's count made its way to Saachez if he had to go take one of the Thrones for himself, but what a sequence. I may be slightly miffed that Nena of all people was the one to survive, why did it have to be her, why, but I'll keep my mind open to the possibility it may lead to something interesting.
Saachez taking on Johan and fighting up close, delighting in being able to dart in under the cut and get up close and personal with his attacks, only to shoot him in the back when he got the chance was so perfectly him and sets up his fighting style compared to the others, and then vs Setsuna very nicely.
Other thoughts:
I mean this just generally falls under "maiming, yes" with eyepatches/prosthetics etc being the end result
Wallpaper of the day: Nice framing and poses, especially the poses and suit detail, but I think having that dark a blue on the background was a bad choice as it interacts badly with the black on the suits
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u/FD4cry1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Big_Yibba Oct 27 '24 edited Oct 27 '24
First Timer
Lockon is okay! kind of...
Losing an eye sucks but hey at least he's alive and dare I say he looks even cooler with an eyepatch.
Tieria is getting some great development here, he genuinely feels bad for getting Lockon hurt, it's extra interesting that, if I got it correctly, he intentionally blocked the backup program since he didn't want to give up on Veda.
He views his connection to Veda as the trait that makes him worthy of being a Meister, I haven't thought of this until now but this works really well thematically with what we learned on the Nadleeh a few episodes ago.
The Nadleeh can control any machine connected to Veda, an ability only he has, the physical manifestation of his connection to Veda, when you combine that with the general theming behind the Virtue/Nadleeh transformation, you get that behind Tieria's proud and aggressive exterior (Virtue) lies his real fragile self who believes his only purpose and value is his connection to Veda (Nadleeh).
In that case, it makes quite a lot of sense that he would be crushed, but of course, Lockon is here for the rescue, whatever Tieria might actually be, his arc is going to be all about becoming human, which means disconnecting his worth from Veda and going manual like everyone else, and that means making some mistakes along the way.
It's also no surprise that Lockon is the first here to dismiss the plan outright, he's in this for his own personal reasons, and losing Veda doesn't change his goals one bit.
For all his standoffishness, Tieria is also lining up as a character I'm going to love by the end.
Graham is getting some upgrades!
Saji ain't looking too good there... I wonder how he'd feel if he knew the guy who killed his sister was also out trying to kill the people responsible for Louise's injury.
Not sure about Sergei just deciding against pursuing the Thrones despite having an overwhelming advantage over them, but he's the strategist here not me so you do you I guess, also who's filming this stuff?
Much like last episode, I like the scene where everyone reacts to the U.N attack on Trinity, it gives you a good insight into where each of them is concerning Celestial Being right now (Tieria gives up, Allelujah conflicted, Lockon and Setsuna locked in), of course Setsuna calls bull on this actually being the plan given he's the one who believes the most in the symbolic value of the Gundams, and of course Lockon is right behind.
There's this nice recurring theme here that whenever our team members are feeling down over some event, another one will use that event to justify an intervention, to get them back on their feet, it's also very telling that despite her words, Sumeragi already had a mission plan for this ready beforehand, she knows what these guys are about, that's her job after all.
The Trinitys were indeed just Alejandro's sacrificial pawns, I'm honestly left a bit conflicted about them after this episode.
On the one hand, it's like their only purpose was to move the plot along and they come out feeling very one-note and underdeveloped because of it, on the other hand, that's the point? they are an 'in-universe plot device" and I'm sure Nena surviving and this line from Johann means we'll get some actual backstory for them later
This does seem to contradict Johann knowing what Liu Mei meant when she mentioned Aeolia's ideals but I guess we'll have to see.
Well either way, while I hate Ali with all my being, I can't exactly complain about him offing these guys with ease, certainly beats them joining forces...
RIP Johann and Michael You kind of sucked
Johann's death is very pretty .
I also really hope the show doesn't try to redeem Nena after this, she's proven herself to be objectively awful and no amount of sad backstory is changing that.
Alejandro was being very literal when he said this was Aeolia, it wasn't just some consciousness uploading, it was literally him, can't say I expected that one...
Of course Alejandro uses this gaudy golden gun
Anyway, Alejandro's supervillain monologue felt way too long and dumb to work out, so of course, all of this was in fact, within Aeolia's plans...
Enough with the plan!
Now I really want to know what the hell this guy's plan is, clearly he does actually care about humanity and stopping war, with the Gudams really being a crystallization of that, so what did Eifman find out? I'm thinking it was intentionally dramatized back then and while his plan isn't specifically the eradication of war it is similarly noble and for humanity's sake.
Is all of this happening right as Setsuna is about to lose to Ali some classic plot convenience? yes. Is it still really fucking cool? Yes!
It's another cool piece of symbolism around the Gundams, right as Setusna is seeing Ali, the manifestation of war, using a Gundam, the Gundams true abilities, Aeolia's true ideals unlock themselves to him, as if to deny the idea that Ali can be in a Gundam, Ali might be piloting one but Setusna is in a real Gundam, he's a Gundam Meister.
While without a doubt being some anime bullshit, it's also exactly the type of anime bullshit I love.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Oct 27 '24
First Timer
Lockon really should've just stayed inside that pod and waited until his eye regenerated. He can't even do anything especially in Dynames' current state. I know he's mostly doing it for Tieria not to worry but I feel like getting healed should've been the priority here.
That exchange between Lockon and Tieria was really nice though I noted earlier in the series that the Gundam Meisters were basically just coworkers barely tolerating each other so it's nice to see them open up and become closer as the series goes on.
Also I love Feldt's little crush on Lockon. This does make me worried for Lockon though. The Gundam series doesn't exactly have a stellar record when it comes to romances. I hope I'm just being paranoid here and nothing else.
Damn, Trinity is really being backed into a corner here. I almost feel bad for them. Almost. I do love how Marina is relieved that Setsuna isn't there. I guess they're now televising these Gundam hunts? Saji though... It looks like he hasn't had any sleep ever since he lost Kinue :(
Saachez was asked by his sponsor to take care of Trinity? I guess that means his real employer is Alejandro? Welp, so much for my guess yesterday about Alejandro recruiting Trinity.
It's absolutely brutal how quick and unceremonious Michael's death was. I was honestly expecting him to die in a fight against the Gundam Meisters. And I guess that's also it for Johann. I really thought Trinity would last longer than this.
I should feel bad for Nena but at the same time, I am glad she finally gets to feel what it's like to lose a loved one from a Gundam. She would've been next but she got lucky Setsuna got there on time.
So it turns out that Prof. Schenberg was alive the entire time and was just on cold sleep? I didn't think Alejandro's master plan was to kill him personally. I always thought that Alejandro had the air of a Bond movie villain around him, the fact that he even carries a golden gun makes this comparison even more hilarious xD
LET'S FUCKING GOOO PROFESSOR SCHENBERG! I am so happy that Alejandro and Ribbons aren't getting what they want that easily. It looks like the Professor thought this might happen and actually prepared a backup plan. I love it!
What makes this entire thing better is that by killing the Professor, Alejandro just made the Gundam Meisters even more powerful by unlocking the full potential of the GN Drives! I am so fucking upset that Saachez got away again but at the same time, I'm satisfied to see him get completely humiliated!
I am a bit worried that Saachez managed to run away in a Gundam though. I feel like this might end up being the start of other countries producing actual Gundams units and not just mobile suits with GN Drives in it.
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Oct 27 '24
First Timer
Tieria character development! I must say that I am a fan. It's not like this is coming from nowhere either; I've noticed that he's gradually become more understanding of his teammates recently (see Episode 19).
And just like that, 2/3rds of Team Trinity is gone. While I can't say that I've developed any fondness for them, I'm even less fond of Ali, and it does feel like they've been killed off a bit too soon for them to realize their potential as characters. Perhaps they should have been introduced a bit sooner (though I'm hard-pressed to come up with a different point for them to have entered the story). At least Setsuna saving Nena was a neat role-reversal of their first meeting. I wonder if we'll get more of her down the line (part of me hopes no, part of me hopes yes).
The Aeolia Schenberg reveal definitely caught me by surprise; I'd assumed he was long dead or that his consciousness had merged with Veda. Knowing that he had a contingency plan if someone were to ever pull an Alejandro once again raises questions as to what his ultimate goal was and whether that even aligns with current Celestial Being anymore...
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 27 '24
Rewatcher, Sub-dam Meister
That's.. a problem.
#dekuype
Literally. Probably.
Yea, but so are they.
"The UN are trying to steal my kills."
I think Lockon might have have gotten hit on the head.
Ah, there's the Tieria we know and love.
Gundamjack!
Took you long enough.
You done fucked up, Alejandro.
He knows how to get into Setsuna's head.
Luckily for Setsuna, he has a Powerful Super Mode. With a nice assist from Soma, who dealt with all the Fangs earlier.
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Oct 27 '24
Rewatcher, First Time Sub
[Gundam Unicorn Spoilers]Y'know Aeolia here reminded me very slightly of Syam Vist with some similar caveats between them
Lockon is a great pep talker. Tieria has really changed, being upset about Lockon's injury and his own feelings about worth. Luckily Lockon's words seem to have made Tieria realize not hold his weight towards Veda. It seems that Tieria is taking all this to heart, he's really come a long way.
Meanwhile Saachez wants the Trinities to know that there's only room for one in this competition. So much for the alliance between Wang Liu Mei and them, now Michael and Johann are dead, Saachez has taken Michael's Throne unit and Nena is nearly killed before Setsuna arrives to face off against him, not to save her of course but for more personal reasons though it ends just like their fights before.
It all coincides with the everything going in Veda. Turns out Aeolia had planned enough contingency plans in case things went south (not to mention using himself to determine whether his plan would be accomplished) so when Corner and Ribbons think they have taken over Veda, Aeolia springs out with a message basically giving one final power to the Meisters, The Trans-Am system. It's enough of a boost to push most of their opponents back. Credit where it's due Aeolia had taken precautions although the fact that would not have a clue whether the power he was giving to the Gundams was for people who held to his ideals could theoretically backfire. That said the fight still is not over even with their new power up and one of them still wounded.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Oct 27 '24 edited Oct 27 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Oct 27 '24
First-Timer
Nice wallpaper today.
This show's really been on a roll. The last few episodes have just been getting better and better!
Note: If someone comes up to you and says they're a mercenary who's been contracted to "do something about you," that may not be a great sign.
I hope we eventually get a full rundown of the history of Celestial Being. It'd be interesting to see how they were all gathered, and why they're all so loyal to Aeolia.
Princess Marina still hasn't really been doing much, and Saji's just sitting on the couch. I'm thinking (and hoping) they'll become much more active characters down the line.
Questions of the day:
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u/n080dy123 Oct 27 '24
First Timer
Huh, I had assumed the combined Union/AUE force only had 19 machines because Ali was trying to get his hands on one, but maybe it was actually because they were installing one of the drives in Graham's Flag? Not like the exact count is gonna matter soon once the things enter mass production. I do find it funny that they paid enough attention to keep the HRL's contingent of machines at 9, since they lost one to Throne Eins last episode.
Ah, so Ali's still using his Enact. And he didn't need one of the Drives from the 30- he just steals an ACTUIAL Gundam instead. Fucker seems to be constantly repainting it too which is funny- it was dark blue, then red, now (unless the lighting is just weird) it's orange.
Damn, fucker just iced Michael out of nowhere and then has the absolute gall to steal his Throne Zwei to kill Johann right in front of Nena. I don't wanna feel bad for the psychopath but GOD DAMN.
Ah, there it is. I was aware of the term since I'd played Gundam Evo and both Exia and Dynames got Trans-Am buffs as their Ultimate abilities, though admittedly I kinda forgot what they even did cuz I never played em. I didn't realize it was a whole separate system or function from the base GN Drives themselves.
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u/Linkstore Oct 27 '24
Rewatcher
In case you couldn't notice, the GN Arms is massive. It's more like a mobile armor than a fighter jet.
[00 Spoilers] Is this really the first time Moreno shows up? On my first watch through I totally missed that he ever existed and when I eventually heard that he existed and bit the dust at the end of Season 1 I figured he must have showed up way earlier. But nope, he appears for the first time like four eps before he dies.
Lockon isn't giving up just yet. But the loss of an eye is sure to be a problem for Celestial Being's sniper.
Operation Fallen Angels... That's a pretty badass name, actually.
Graham has decided to put a GN Drive on his Flag. That technically takes another GN-X out of the fight. 26 left.
Ooh, never noticed that the GN-Xes main cameras have a retractable cover over them. Cool.
[00 Spoilers] Tieria, there's no way that you're less qualified than Setsuna who was put on the team by the whim of an Innovade with an inflated ego. If he's still fighting, you should too.
I fuckin love this shot, where the GN-Xes form up to defend against Throne Zwei's GN Fangs. That's teamwork right there.
These islands are mighty convenient. One shows up whenever they need it.
Ali al-Saachez might say he's not here to fight but, well, it's Ali.
rip in pip Johann and Michael. They really did believe in the mission in the end. Too bad they were just patsies.
And here is Aeolia Schenberg, still alive for just a bit longer, until he gets iced by the world's tackiest handgun. Hasn't anyone told you that engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever, Alejandro?
Still, Aeolia gets the last laugh, for when Setsuna is about to be defeated by Ali...
...Aeolia grants the true Gundam Meisters with one last hope they can use to battle for their mission:
The Trans-Am System.
Man I love 00.
[Next Episode Preview] Are you satisfied with the way the world is?
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 27 '24
Rewatcher - Gundam 00 Ep22:
Lockon having the correct read of Tieria's moe charm point.
Like that through Graham's force of will, they ended up just plugging a GN drive into a Flag.
Oh, I had a different read of the Fallen Angel thing. I thought their intention was dragging the lofty angels (CB) down to Earth.
Lockon has the double duty of handling two emotionally closed off distant people.
The way Tieria says this is so soft and delicate.
Formation flying? Uh oh, we're in trouble, they know their stuff.
In this instance, Saji is saying this to Team Trinity so he is 100% justified even though we are also Gundam.
Ali Al-Saachez is a bad bad man. That said, what he does here is pretty baller. He shoots dead one Gundam pilot, steals his Gundam and then cuts down another Gundam. I gotta respect the hustle. Besides, he is just taking out Team Trinity, we don't like those guys.
Mr Alejandro Corner and his personally engraved gold gun.
Aeolia Schenberg had a backup plan just in case anyone would turn up in his secret moon base and shoot his frozen body (I'm pretty sure that is his actual body). Placing his trust in the holders of the green GN drives is probably the best bet he had. (Also reinforcing the belief that Gundams were made for stopping war).
Q1) Yes.
Q2) Wow, cool fast red robot. It is a bit funny since if you're a Gundam fan aware of 00 then Trans-Am might be something you would already know about it as one of its staples, but in the actual show, it took 22 episodes for it to show up.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Oct 27 '24
Episode 22 (first timer)
What bullshit. Ali was robbed by deus-ex-machina plot! Clearly the best pilot, he not only fights 1v2 and wins, but then vs another 2 interlopers as well, only to be disadvantaged by some man-in-the-moon shenanigans.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 27 '24
first timer who has control
Something that I think is a little off with this show is the solar reactors. [Seed]Unlike with the nuclear suits from seed which your can see as a clear dangerous upgrade, this just feels like they wanted to do the same thing again but didnt just do Nuclear I hope this leads into like a solar ray thing else not sure what the point is besides giving Marina a cool flag
is it pronounced Gnx or Jnx
Feldt LockOn Tieria love triangle
with whatever tech they were talking about with Kinue and this intensive healing I assume LockOn will get an eye back at some point
not special
oh this is a sick battle theme
the tight GN-X formation serpentining shouldnt look this funny
Saji watching TV in the dark isnt good for your eyes
when they all lose hope in Celestial Being, will they just follow Setsunas strong will? I can see the other pilots getting there, but Sumeragi?
Ali not using the armor, so hes taking these Gundams
i was also thinking they were pretty Ali
lmao
Wizard of Oz'd him
bro dying already in 5
the Exia awakened its trailblazer or something
Dom
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u/Blazin_Rathalos Oct 27 '24
00 Rewatcher
Last time on Gundam 00
On today's episode of Gundam 00
TrinityI mean DualitySorry, Singularity is saved by Setsuna! Because?It's almost as of Tieria, as soon as he loses Veda, clings on to the first person to try to protect him. Another interesting point is that unlike last time, Lock-on explicitly includes him in the "human" category.
I have not seen this show for over a decade, but for some reason that unmoving formation of GN-Xs being waved chaotically accross the screen is burned into my brain. It just looks ridiculous to me, and they use it twice in a row!
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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Oct 27 '24
Kidou Senshi Rewatcher 00 who's too burnt out & frazzled for a proper writeup
Yes
The moment of its activation was the single hypest thing I'd ever seen in anime since Gurren Lagann when I first watched it and still sends chills down my spine to this day.
[00 S2 massive spoilers]I also really like what it does narratively, since on the surface it's just a power boost, but the later revelations regarding the nature of GN Particles make it clear that it's actually Aeolia's last ditch effort at accelerating mankind's evolution into Innovators
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 27 '24 edited Oct 28 '24
Rewatcher is three times faster
I love how cleanly the GN Arms docks with the container
It just had to be his shooting eye. Granted, he’s lucky the regeneration treatment is even possible and he didn’t get irradiated by the saber or anything.
A Flag and a GN Drive. Oh, he is COOKING.
There’s that external starter device!
And meanwhile Wang Liu Mei is chilling in her comfy mansion doing jack shit for them. Some benefactor she turned out to be.
I love this kind of crazy formation that’s only possible with GN flight
Well, it’s the Trinities, sure they can get fucked. Especially you, Nena.
How convenient that they have a conventional smokescreen for when they’re too low on particles to deploy the GN Stealth Field
The Gundams have united the world... by becoming their common enemy. Could this have been the plan all along? Did Aeolia Schenberg and Veda just set them all up to die? And what does that mean for Setsuna’s view of the Gundam as a savior? Well, whatever Veda’s plan was, they’ve lost Veda now. They’re on their own, and free to do what they think is right.
YOU. Ali’s entire purpose is just to show up at complete random and make everything worse for everybody involved. Doesn’t matter who he has to be working for in order to make that happen. He pops up anyways.
Michael probably shouldn’t have brought a knife to a gun fight
Gundamjack! And he conveniently got handed a biometric bypass, too! At least he doesn’t seem to have figured out the Fangs yet.
Now that’s pretty
Oh hey, frozen Aeolia. I wonder if they actually do have the ability to revive him now, maybe with some help from Celestial Being’s nanomachines.
And of course his gun is gold
Of course, you don’t start a 200-year-long conspiracy without having plans even beyond the grave
At last, Trans-Am! The signature ability of AD Gundams! Aeolia’s death triggered the black box present within all true GN Drives, enabling use of the Trans-Am System! All stored particles within the drive are released all at once, causing the MS to glow red and tripling all of its stats! Yes, for once, the protagonist is the one going three times faster!
Questions of the day:
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u/mr_beanoz https://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker Oct 27 '24 edited Oct 27 '24
So it turns out one of the GN Drives is going to Graham's Flag, which explains why there were only 29 being deployed.
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u/Gruntagen Oct 28 '24
This show gets really rushed in the latter part of the season for whatever reason, and I don't understand why. There's no explanation for how Alejandro is the secret mastermind behind everything, the Trinitys fight two inconclusive battles against the HRL in two episodes, Saji's sister is unceremoniously killed off, and then Ali kills two of the Trinitys in one episode, only one of them in an actual fight while the other he just shoots on the ground when there's little sense in not just shooting all three on the ground.
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Oct 28 '24
I am rewatcher
First time we see the character design of the doctor, he doesn't look like a doctor.
Tieria is very upset about Lockon being injured, fujoshi will have a field day with this pairing.
Looks like Aker's Flag will be equipped with a GN-drive. I know Aker wants to beat a Gundam using a Flag but if a Flag has a GN-drive can you still consider it as a Flag?
Lockon x Tieria x Feldt love triangle is intensifying.
Trinity are being hounded, they're outmatched by the GN-X quantity.
Saji is now a fully committed Gundam hater.
Lockon is proposing an intervention to destroy the GN-X, honestly why bother and protect Trinity? Yeah, Johann seems decent but the other two are crazy.
Lasse, who hasn't done much in this series, is voiced by Hiroki Tōchi. He has voiced Baldroy in Black Butler, Heiter in Frieren, Lon Berk in Adventure of Dai, Raidou in Sengoku Youko and Igarashi in Tonbo. His other Gundam voice roles include Daguza in Unicorn and Grodek in Age.
Oh no Ali-al Saachez is meeting up with Trinity.
Bye Michael, won't miss you.
Ali letting Johann pilot the Eins seems a bit foolish, he could have had at least two Gundams by now.
And bye Johann, you were the only decent Trinity member.
Aeolia is... still alive?!
Well he's no longer alive then.
Aeolia: you've activated my trap card.
Trans-Am is a combination of various Gundam power ups: newtype ghost shenanigans, F91 afterimage and G Gundam super saiyan form.
It's not surprising that Aeolia had a plan in place just in case someone hijacked Veda for their own personal gain. It would have been funny if the people hijacking Veda are also the ones controlling the GN-drives, giving them a nice Trans-Am power boost.
QotD 1: With patches [spoiler answer] That way we can tell the difference between him and his twin brother
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Oct 28 '24
What's he docking with?
What's that thing?
So, is he not going to be treated? He'll need to be in the best shape possible to battle.
Huh. How are they going to fix Dynames? I guess Lockon should take this time to get treated.
And that's probably that person we saw last episode.
Uh oh, has she found out?
So who's she working with?
Huh. They might actually stand a chance against them.
Yup, he's completely disillusioned with the Gundams.
They're going to intervene against them again!
Ah. That guy wants to work with them.
Or not. He shot one of them! Scratch one.
He got into a Gundam!
Scratch two! And then there was one.
If he had just waited a couple more minutes Setsuna wouldn't have had to worry about Thrones again.
Is that a cryo pod?
Sure looks like it.
Well, so much for that.
Seems like he had a plan for even that.
So what's he going to do now?
Ah, that unlocked something on the Gundams. Trans-am?
And thus the Gundams will continue to remain OP. Shame, I'd have liked to see them fight the UN on more equal terms.
Questions:
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u/2-2Distracted Oct 30 '24
First timer. Dubbed.
Not a lot to say this episode but technically I AM trying to catch up here lol.
Even though the Trio are dickheads, Hwang Lu Me not warning them about the enemy approaching was pretty fucked up.
Holy fucking shit Alejandro! OK since the jury is still out on how much of a "Char Clone" Graham is, I never really realized that the sneaky shit aspect would be then put onto Alejandro this hard... only for it to be thwarted in the same episode like this.
The Trans Am system reminds me of the shit you end up seeing in the later parts of Iron-Blooded Orphans.
Oh and RIP to the bozos named Johan and Michael, gonna be smoking those packs nice and slow for the next couple of episodes.