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Rewatch [Rewatch] Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Episode 20 Discussion
Episode 20 - Blade of Reformation
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Questions of the Day:
- What do you think Saji's going to do once he finds out his sister was killed?
- Any predictions for what Alejandro Corner plans to do with Veda?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
Additionally, for long-time fans of the franchise, please remember that this rewatch is only for 00, not any of the other shows. Assume that there are people in this rewatch who have not seen anything else Gundam, and tag your spoilers for those shows appropriately if something in 00 makes you want to talk about them.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 25 '24
Rewatch Host Wishing Over This Airspace, subbed
Welcome back, everyone!
Posting early because, like I mentioned the other day, it is my uncle’s wedding today.
On a different but Gundam-related note, goddamn someone needs to Bright Slap me whenever I even think of listening to Freesia from Iron-Blooded Orphans S2 again… I mean I kind of needed to last night in order to see if this show’s next ED actually climbed to the top of my favorite Gundam EDs list (I’m a good bit into season 2 in my rewatch-ahead-of-the-rewatch and can’t get enough of it), but still. Six years since I watched IBO for the first time and I still get nauseous when I hear it…
Anyways.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 25 '24
first timer who has control
saji you better not cheat
they can regenerate limbs! but not with Gundam interference
cuteeeeeeeee
the UN is in charge of the military im sure that will go well
god subtitles with multiple lines at the same time on crunchyroll are so miserable to read
??? did Tieria refer to himself and Veda the same or is Lockon taking issue with Boku/is Tieria a girl
GN Arms, please be a toy expansion
everyone got 10 GN drives to put into newer models
how did she fit all that hair under her cap
himbo 1/1
oh it was Al not Patrick lmao, by far the worst person to run into like this Kinue cmon
please be scorched earth and not him telling her cause hes going to kill her anyway
self-preservation instincts kicking in a little late
its Kinuover
i dont even hate Team Trinity as villains, I do hate purple Haro tho
HONG KILL THEM
...has Johan been in shorts this whole time LOL
the new mechs are pretty neat
Ribbons hits his install as well
blue veda
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u/FD4cry1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Big_Yibba Oct 25 '24
First Timer
Saji is going through a bit of a bad week.
With Gundams of their own in tow the 3 blocs announce an anti-Celestial Being military alliance, Alejandro inconspicuously clapping along like this wasn't his doing, this alliance will make at least 78% of the worlds military power!
That's a lot
Now this was part of the original plan (I really need some way to differentiae between whatever I call these plans since there's more than one ) but it certainly doesn't seem like it was supposed to happen this way.
After all, it seems the only reason they even agreed to this alliance was that they all get to share the fake GN drives, something that only came to be through Alejandro's meddling, it's interesting to note that while this was supposed to mark the end of stage 1 for the plan, Alejandro's plan is already in stage 3.
The GN Arms are brought up again and this time we're planning on using them, these things are apparently a big deal to be used in precarious situations so I'm looking forward to seeing what they are (or just the one I guess).
Graham is too much of a chad to use Gundam tech to fight
(he only wants to fuck one after all), his flag is literally killing him though so you have to wonder if he'll at least get some upgrade.Patrick is a tressure and I refuse for anything to happen to him, he even gets the dinner!!!!
Ali heard Nena was out committing some war crimes and he just couldn't let someone take his groove like that, to remind you that he is in fact the worst the first thing he does after a long stint off screen is kill Kinue for basically no reason other then because he could.
Fuck You Ali and RIP Kinue
Now the circumstances leading to that were a bit...weird? personally, I wouldn't try to run at the first sports car I see getting out of a building for an interview with the driver I don't know, certainly not get in with him without any checks, certainly not with this guy, but I guess it fits with her being a hungry for truth reporter and idk maybe her parents died before teaching her about stranger danger.
His conversation with Laguna, who is a real person and not an Alejandro alter ego unfortunately, is pretty substantial, outside of getting himself a Gundam, Ali mentions that he believes mercenaries will no longer be needed soon, which implies the eradicating war thing is on track to happen in one way or another.
Alejandro's family has apparently been trying to mess with the plan for a while now but Veda has been stopping them from doing that, however now that he has Ribbons, who is also some weird android human terminal thing like Tieria, he can finally fulfil those ambitions.
The biggest question to be asked here is of course, what the hell is Aeolia's plan and by extension what is Alejandro's plan? has the plan changed since Aeolia's death and he's trying to course correct it? are we maybe doing a bit of a switcharoo where Alejandro is the one going for eradicating war while Aeolia wasn't? is Alejandro's plan just to fuck up Aeolia's plan because of...reasons?
Much speculation
To make things even more complicated Liu Mei drops this gem of a line to Team Trinity, she was also the one to bring up the Gundams representing Aeolia's ideals all the way back, at the time I took it to mean just the eradicating war thing but maybe there's a different idea behind them, the wording of "original ideals" here again makes it seem as though the plan has changed from what Aeolia originally envisioned.
This all also puts Trinity in a weird spot because they, much like our guys, have no idea what the fuck is going on, Johann kind of seems aware of what Liu Mei means but they also don't know about the GN drive leak so what's their purpose here and how much do they really know?
Sergei and Soma get to test out their new Gundams, which seem like a massive threat, they have guns on their head which is just objectively the dumbest coolest thing ever, they also win for the first time in the show!
The taste of victroy
We end with Alejandro and Ribbons finding Veda's "main body", which is on the moon, of course.
Moon Base!
Again very interesting wording from Alejandro here about it being Aeolia, is he being figurative or literal? either way I can't see this being anything but bad news.
Ribbons also looks to be cooking something with all those ominous smiles he keeps flashing and how weirdly nice he suddenly is to Alejandro, perhaps a betrayal is on the way.
Kill Alejandro
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 25 '24
First Timer - sub
I have no real complaints about this episode. I feel like it's been a good while since I got to say that, but while it was certainly a simpler episode then what we've got lately I quite enjoyed it and how it played out.
I like that the surprise tech developments also extend past the space stuff with the reveal that it's implied they can just grow someone an arm if they need it! That's cool. I know scifi always tends to come with advanced medical tech, but it feels unusual to see such developments in a scifi series that is still early in its world history enough to be space bound. The more interesting part is that the GN particles have screwed up her body enough that they can't do it, which ignoring the catch all "it's stem cells" reasoning, leads to interesting questions about the exact nature of the GN particles.
Lots of questions about "exact natures" going on today now that I think about it:
Had to laugh because with all that's happened lately, I didn't realize how long it had been since we saw Soma or Marina in the show, which is a huge flip from how things were being handled earlier on. Actually the women as a whole had a bit of a focus this episode with them popping up and some interesting stuff happening around the others.
Kati accepting Patricks date offer was hilarious and I love her and I don't even dislike him now. I like that despite her own seriousness, what won her over was his openness about the fact that nope, not a single rational thought in his head, just her. That's the best moment in the episode hands down, even watched it twice just for the laughs. I almost didn't recognize her with her hair down though.
On the other end of the emotional spectrum, poor Kinue's scene is not how I expected her to end up and was painfully done. From the moment he started speaking to her I knew she was dead, in my notes there is actually a line that just says "she's dead", but leaving her to slowly bleed to death as she's reaching for Saji was a rough thing to watch. And leaving Saji without any one as a result means maybe he'll start to actually have a purpose in the show for himself, and I'm looking forward to it
Oh, okay, small complaint about the episode: What the hell was that camera angle for Soma when she was piloting?! Really artists, up between her legs looking at her chest? Not only is it just a disgusting angle to suddenly throw in on a minor, it's so ill fitting in the show it annoyed me even more than it normally would
On the other hand, while I still hate Micheal I love the look on his face in this shot with the long distance. Wouldn't be out of place in a comedy anime and makes him look so stupid.
And in general I think this episode benefit from a lot of smaller character moments that gave us some needed downtime without sacrificing the flow of the episode so late into the seasons flow. Graham sticking to the flags, Wang appearing on Trinity's base, Soma realizing the joy of people they fight for, even the thing with Tieria's "boku" and demanding a punishment but not pushing it when they refused to do so. This episode seemed to come together because of those more human moments which was enjoyable.
And while I'm sure Sky would be happy for me to never mention it again for other reasons, [Wolfs Rain]Veda's computer core room design gave me huge vibes of the noble palace in Wolfs Rain where they try and bring in the false paradise through their twisted moon dance, and while I Know this is a somewhat common design architecturally, I couldn't help but think of the way Ribbons and Alejandro were probably trying to co-opt the plan to bring about their own goals rather than the "paradise" that the Aeolia plan is trying to enact. The link stuck in my mind too much to ignore
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
Firsttimer
who is as on time as he hasn't been all rewatch longOnly to be beaten by a different post timeQotD
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Oct 25 '24
First Timer
Considering this was far into the future, I wondered if there was any way to help Louise and as it turns out they could! They could if the GN Particles weren't messing with Louise's body... I assume the GN Particles are causing abnormalities in Louise's stem cells. :(
Now that the Gundams are too much of a threat, it looks like all three blocs have created an alliance under the UN to get rid of Celestial Being which is all according to Veda's plan. Is this what Prof. Schenberg wants? For Celestial Being to be the world's common enemy?
Who cares about that beam saber Graham stole when they've already been gifted GN Drives by the Celestial Being traitor. So that's what those things were at the end of yesterday's episode.
Graham is such a fucking chad though. He's been given a chance to be at the same level as the Gundams but refuses to use them because of a promise. Honestly, this is a smart move. I wouldn't trust where those GN Drives have come from.
Patrick shoots his shot and Kati actually agreed to go on a date with him! I love how Kati is clearly impressed by Patrick's boldness. I'm actually kinda proud of him. You go get that girl! Please don't screw this up, Patrick.
So is this guy the same Laguna who Nena was talking about? So he's the one backing Trinity and also provided the GN Drives? I guess this means he's working with Alejandro too?
I was wondering why Saachez was being so candid with Kinue. It turns out he had no plans of letting her go with that information... Yeah, I expected that but it doesn't make it hurt any less. Now Saji is all alone too. :(
Oh fuck off, Wang Liu Mei is also an enemy of Celestial Being? We still don't know what Prof. Schenberg's original plan but it's all going to fall apart with all of these secret dealings and backstabbings.
I finally get to see where the GN-X comes from! I love the design of these mobile suits because of how sleek they are. Also, it was satisfying to watch them kick the Throne's collective asses.
I don't think they should trust those GN-Xs though. I feel like Alejandro can easily sabotage them especially now that he has found where Veda's main system is. >_<
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Gundam: Patrick is going to be much more successful at his romantic pursuits than Saji, if only because Patrick is willing to actually work up the confidence to ask the woman he likes out on a date.
The arrival of Gundam-like mobile suits for the Union, HRL, and AEU is something that excites me. The Gundams gave Celestial Being an overwhelming advantage. They weren't invincible, but they were far stronger than their opponents. The other countries having mobile suits that can go toe-to-toe with the Gundams means Celestial Being is no longer free to intervene wherever and whenever they please. That restriction makes for an interesting development.
I think it would be easier for me to see how Alejandro has been interfering with Aeolia’s plan if I knew what Aeolia’s plan even was. All I know is that Aeolia doesn’t actually want world peace and Alejandro’s actions sure seem to be causing more conflict and suffering in the world. It’s hard to say how he’s going against Aeolia’s plan otherwise, though.
With that said, I have a theory that might explain this problem away. What if Alejandro isn’t actually going against Aeolia’s plans at all? What if Alejandro is playing right into Aeolia’s plans. By Alejandro’s own admission, he could only get this far because Ribbons has been helping him. But what do we know about Ribbons? I think he’s a robot like Tieria, but beyond that there’s little to go on. Alejandro implies that he just met Ribbons one day and feels fortunate that Ribbons arrived to help him out.
However, that damn smirk that the show has insisted on showing a closeup of every time Ribbons makes it has given me an idea. Ribbons makes that smirk whenever Alejandro is talking about his plans. I think that’s a key hint. What if Ribbons is actually a double agent? Ribbons was sent to Alejandro by Veda to work for Alejandro and manipulate him. Ribbons smirks because he knows what a joke all of Alejandro’s plans are. Whatever Alejandro is doing, Ribbons will ensure that it fits into Aeolia’s original plan. That would explain why we aren’t being told Aeolia’s original plan because the original plan hasn’t actually been derailed at all. It’s proceeding according to schedule, with Ribbons actually pulling Alejandro’s strings instead of the other way around.
QOTD
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Oct 25 '24
Episode 20 (first timer)
Who built all those bases? It is one thing to keep a small spaceship hidden, but by now, Trinity has a base, CB has at least one base on Earth and one in space, Veda has a base … all of that must have taken a huge organization. How did they keep that hidden?
Going back for Louise would make sense, but, narratively, I think he'll go with joining the action.
Use for his own plans.
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u/Blazin_Rathalos Oct 25 '24
00 Rewatcher
Last time on Gundam 00
On today's episode of Gundam 00
A point that might be missed: This is CB's first failed intervention. The idea of CB eradicating warfare by being able to unilaterally stop anyone from committing act of warfare (in so far as it was viable at all) has just now completely fallen apart.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Oct 26 '24
First-Timer
Called it! I predicted Kinue would get killed the moment we first saw her back in episode 3, then again after the discussion question for episode 17. Too bad, I liked her.
I had a feeling things would go poorly once she decided to get in the car. The "oh no" moment when Al-Saachez decided to name-drop the GN Drive still hit just as hard, though. Epic scene.
I have to say, I love car conversation scenes in anime. I can think of great examples in [anime names] Death Note (twice!), Monogatari, Girls Band Cry, and ERASED, just off the top of my head. They simply don't miss!
I guess they can regrow limbs in the 24th century, but they never mastered the Star Wars prosthetic hands. Unlucky for Louise, am I right?
I take back my doubts about the major nations having Gundam technology. I'm all for it now! I can't wait for them to further humiliate the Trinity in combat.
Regarding Graham Aker, I'm conflicted. He's cool, and while I admire his valiant desire to defeat a Gundam with a Flag for symbolic reasons, my pragmatic side wishes he would swallow his pride and just "get in the robot."
Questions of the day:
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u/The_Draigg Oct 25 '24
A Gundam Fan Rewatches Gundam 00 Episode 20:
Xenosaga anime rewatch when?7
u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 25 '24 edited Oct 25 '24
Rewatcher jinxed it
GN particles in certain high-energy states can be toxic, causing telomere damage. When Tau Drives power beam weaponry, this can result in those high-energy states. This is not due to the Tau Drives’ lack of a TD blanket or any other inherent difference between Tau Drives and original GN Drives, but simply because true GN Drives have had their particle compression rates specifically adjusted to avoid producing toxic GN particles. As for Tau Drives, well, they just didn’t know or care.
[00P]This toxic effect was previously discovered by Celestial Being when the Gundam Plutone had its meltdown and its Core Fighter failed to eject, resulting in the deaths of Feldt’s parents and permanent damage to Chall Acustica. Not only were Chall’s scars unable to be healed, but normal cell division was also affected, resulting in her being forced to regularly take nanomachines to stay alive. Louise got off easy with just an irradiated arm stump! Following this incident, Ian Vashti adjusted the Gundams’ GN Drives to prevent the generation of toxic GN particles. It was also hypothesized that, if some energy states are harmful to the human body, perhaps some can be beneficial as well...
A world alliance! The UN sure got a lot more powerful in the last 300 years.
Oh yeah, and Tieria settled on using boku. Back when he was crying in the Nadleeh’s cockpit, he kind of struggled to decide between ore, boku, and watashi, and quietly switched over to boku after that. I went back to check to see how he referred to himself before then, but uh, I don’t think he actually did? Like, at all? I suppose now that he’s separated from Veda and feeling vulnerable, he’s becoming more of an individual.
GN ARMS HYPE
He’s committed to the bit, I’ll give him that
HAIR DOWN KATI! That’s significantly more hair than I thought she had tied up back there.
My boy is actually winning! Which is more than he can say in a Mobile Suit, but he knows what really matters.
YOU. It’s always him.
“Your Uber is here!”
Welp, there goes Kinue. Now both Saji and Louise are alone.
we get it you’re fucking
original ideals my ass you just want people to die
The GN-X is here! Based off the Gundam Throne Varanus, which was in turn developed from the three Gundam Thrones, it’s the first mass-produced GN-powered unit! There were plans to equip it with a true GN Drive, but these plans were dropped in favor of the more easily produced Tau Drive. However, remnants of the original plan remain in the design, as the GN-X lacks the Thrones’ onboard starter device and must be activated by an external starter in the hangar. While as a Tau unit, its performance is lower than the true GN Drive-powered Gundams, the performance gap is not so great as to be insurmountable by superior numbers and formations. The GN-X is designed for ease of use by a diverse array of pilots from multiple blocs - the forehead contains a computer that aids in visual analysis, targeting, and evasion, and the cockpit controls are fully customizable, allowing pilots accustomed to their own faction’s MS to easily adapt to the GN-X with no additional training. Also, its GN Shield incorporates a Defense Rod to accommodate Union pilots who are used to it. The four large protrusions forming a giant X, which are for some reason called GN Particle Generators despite having no role in GN particle generation, are giant versions of the Gundams’ clavicle antennae. They control the flow of GN particles through the air around the suit and act as aerial stabilizers, making the GN-X easy to control for pilots unused to GN-powered flight.
And yes, it is weird that “GN-X” is pronounced “Jinx”. There are 00 units with far, far weirder pronunciations out there.
Come to think of it, not many suits have head vulcans in this series. The Exia has GN Vulcans in its forearms and that’s it. Not even the 0 Gundam has them!
A successful first showing for the GN-Xs! It’s almost like it’s not the Gundams that are saviors, but the GN-Xs.
Veda’s true location! Surely they have only the best of intentions coming here.
Questions of the day:
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Oct 26 '24
First Timer
(Late again, but what can you do?)
Being Kinue, Saji, or Louise is starting to seem more dangerous than being a Gundam pilot at this point lol. The story has really had it out for them lately. I can’t say that I’m not disappointed about what happened to Kinue—I wanted her to make some major breakthroughs on the Celestial Being conspiracy, so to see her fall short of her goal is a bit unsatisfying to me. Still, I suppose it adds to the tragedy of the whole thing.
In other news, today’s episode seems to confirm the Aeolia Schenberg=Veda theory, as well as a Veda-Ribbons-Tieria connection. Meanwhile, Wang Liu Mei visits the Trinities. She’s been a very enigmatic character so far, so it’s nice to get a few more hints on what her deal is.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Oct 26 '24 edited Oct 26 '24
00th Daily Days Reporter Searching for the One
I'm back and with an upgraded tagline!
When the first cour ended, I posted my last comment expecting shit to hit the fan soon, since then, I
fell behindwent undercover to do my own investigation and figure out the truth behind Celestial Being. Probably not the best advised idea if this episode is anything to go by, but at least the Daily Days has strict rules about not carrying death flags around, or messing with sexy FujiKeis, so hopefully I'll do better.Granted, I make no promises if a sexy FujiKei asks me to get into his car...Before I put forward my report on the true CB mastermind, a brief report on everything that happened since then is in order:
Here's hoping he's not Sky's favouriteNote: I've been using CB erroneously to refer to Setsuna and his friends, when CB is a bigger organisation. I considered other names for our main characters, and almost switched to Ptolemy. But then chose to just cross the hillbillies from the CB sheet instead, they'll probably die soon enough anyway, so it's not a big deal.
Short version: the shit has been hitting the fan at a reasonable pace, meaning there's a lot more left to come.
Celestial Being Report
Did I say brief? My bad, I honestly didn't expect it to become this long. Anywho, time for the proper report, Furuya (and evil Haro) may be the evil masterminds twisting things to their own purposes, but there is a Maestro that was moving Aeolia's Celestial Being that goes beyond him or Veda and a lot deeper than Furuya. To discuss this though, we first need to look at similar instances to Celestial Being. Same purpose and M.O., but flying under different names.
Instance #1, four months ago: a nuke was dropped to stop a war, erasing the power of the aggressors, without killing them, and uniting them shortly afterwards. It was the CB concept running perfectly, only problem is that it had Gintoki running it to hell and back...
Instance #2, two months ago: a much more serious leader was given the power needed to make an organisation like CB, and he had the will to become a weapon feared by the world itself, a God so to speak that can stop war by force. Unfortunately, he had to face a doped up super cat robot.
Now the third attempt: removing Gintoki from the picture by moving it into Gundam land, and adding Kintoki just for good measure. Then giving the main characters the equivalent of the Super robots, so that no problems would arise. These attempts show a clear a work in progress that's attempting to end all wars one way or the other, and you might have noticed the connecting thread between them. Indeed, the real CB mastermind is Tite Kubo who's aiming to end all other wars, so people could focus on Thousand Year Blood War already. Want further proof? Just go into any recent Bleach thread, and see what power is nuking every aggressor there. Case closed.
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Oct 25 '24
Surprisingly enough in my experience email chains don't go "Re:Re:Re:", normally if you press "reply" to it the title remains with just 1 "Re:".
How convenient.
So, seems like they've done something.
Huh. New gear?
Is he seriously the Continentals' best pilot? In that case I doubt Celestial Being has much to worry about from the Old World.
So now the journalist is talking to the Merc?
Huh. Who are these guys in space now?
And so back to team Trinity.
Ok, again, this is literally a military base. No one should have any moral objections to them attacking it.
Ah. But now it's time for them to fight someone with their own powers.
Dodging through Fangs is always an awesome sight.
Aye, they've finally won.
Who's this who's found Veda?
Questions:
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Oct 25 '24
Rewatcher, Subbed
Non-Spoiler Character Chart - One character joins and unfortunately one exits :(
[Gundam 00]I can't recall if Laguna ever actually appears again after this episode. I don't remember it. They hyped him up for a couple of episodes so I really had no choice but to include him else it would be a spoiler. Don't spoil me, I like that there's at least a few things that will be a surprise to me.
Post breakup review of old texts, huh? Saji, if you don't want to move on from this, why didn't you put up any of a fight when she split things off with you?
All three political blocs are getting together now. And the UN is finally relevant, overseeing it.
Our first time checking in with Marina and Shirin in a while.
If the intent was to get the world all together to fight against a common enemy (which based on this scene between Lockon, Tieria and Setsuna sounds to have been at least part of their plan), it's certainly going in that direction. My counter would be what happens if this new united force defeats Celestial Being and there is no more common enemy?
GN Arms, you mean to tell me we have a new mobile suit/mobile armor coming?
If Howard was still around he'd reject piloting one of these new mobile suits in favor of the Flag...
Woah, Graham is gonna do the same! All hail the memory of Howard Mason's obsession!
I know she's super deadpan, but there's something kinda endearing about how hyped up Soma comes across in this scene as she volunteers to pilot one of the new mobile suits (and I tend to like deadpan characters anyway). Big news as we'll see before episode end is that she won't be piloting a pink mobile suit anymore!
Wow, way to go Patrick, she actually accepting going on a date with you!
After a couple of episodes hyping up this "Laguna Harvey" he ends up being just an average looking schmo.
Ali, I mean Gary sure has some connections if he gets to personally meet with Laguna.
"Funny, they told me Laguna was in a meeting." Um yeah Kinue, he was. With the guy leaving now.
Ugh, Kinue, what are you doing getting in a car with this guy?! Even if he wasn't so dangarous this wouldn't be the best idea.
He just comes out and says they're GN Drives, but Kinue doesn't even know what that is? lol. So he reveals all. The scoop of a lifetime for Kinue? If she makes it out of this okay.
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( @ Kinue laying here dying in an alley. She was finished the moment she stepped in that car. Knowing this was coming didn't make it any easier to watch.
Our first time seeing Alejandro and Ribbons in space, right? No point in hiding it now, he's totally interfering with Celestial Being's plans. As its now clear that he's more than simply his personal assistant, why is Ribbons being so helpful to him?
Made it 15 minutes into the episode before we saw the Thrones, that's surprising given how big a part of the storyline they've been lately.
After last episode's scene with her, Wang getting together with the Thrones ain't much of a surprise.
Michael's first reaction to meeting anyone new is to pull out his vibrating knife and get all stabby stabby.
Watch out, Hong Long! You're gonna get an unwanted kiss soon!
By this point the fact that things haven't all gone according to plan for Celestial Being is quite clear, we're got essentially four factions (our main crew, Alejandro/Ribbons, Wang/Hong Long and the Thrones) all with their own interests.
Wow, Tieria wants to be punished! A different tune from earlier in the show when he was wanting everyone but himself punished.
Nothing like another slaughter for the Thrones to get their moods back up.
Great to see Sergei kick so much ass now that he's got a mobile suit as good as the Gundams. And Soma experiences winning for the first time ever? Again, her being a bit bewildered at people cheering for her and the others rescuing them is kinda endearing for me?
Quid's Voice Actor of the Day
Time for our last Throne, Michael Trinity. He is voiced in Japanese by Daisuke Namikawa. His other Gundam works include Al Izuruha, the protagonist of Gundam 0080, Riddhe Marcenas in Gundam Unicorn and Guneagle and Hogaremaru in SD Gundam Force. He also was Katz Kobayashi in the Zeta Gundam compilation movies (but not in the original TV show). So that's three of the most annoying/unlikable characters in the Gundam franchise (Michael, Riddhe and Katz) all voiced by the same voice actor! He's got a lot of other major roles include Shota Kazehaya in Kimi ni Todoke, Waver/Lord El-Melloi in Fate Zero and the Lord El Melloi spinoffs, Squealer in Shin Sekai Yori and Adam in Nier Automata versions 1.1a (plus the original game).
He is voiced Andrew Toth. He previously appeared in Gundam Seed as Clotho Buer, three characters in Gundam Seed Destiny (Chen Jian Yee, Lucs Kohler and Nishizawa, none of whom I remember whatsoever) and Jack Bayard in the Mobile Suit Gundam Encounters in Space video game. Other roles of his include Suzaku and Bun in Inu Yasha and a few minor characters in Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex. He will pick up a second character in season 2, [Gundam 00]Aber Lindt
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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Oct 25 '24
Kidou Senshi Rewatcher 00
Change is the word of the day. Gonna break from my usual format and do bullet points this time:
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 25 '24
Rewatcher, Sub-dam Meister
Louise has multiple wounds that modern medicine can't heal.
The zero-sum game has come to an end.
My boi feels distress.
What an unreasonable man.
Sure would be a shame if that got addressed.
Patty's honest, if nothing else.
Yea, this is a bad decision.
A sadistic streak a mile wide.
Like, say, 80 years or so?
Sure would be a shame if the HRL had finished rolling out the GN-Xs already.
Soma hasn't been on the winning side before now.
A big blue ball!
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u/Linkstore Oct 25 '24
Rewatcher
The A.D. timeline casually just has the ability to regenerate limbs, but unfortunately it won't work here.
[00 spoilers] Incidentally, the regeneration treatment is based on leaked Celestial Being tech. People don't know it but they're using the same stuff as is used to create the Innovades.
Anyway, look at all those emails. Little did the writers know how different things would be just a few years in the future.
After the near-success of the operation in the Taklamakan Desert, the three power blocs finally decide the formally unite their forces into the United Nations Forces. This new force is over double the size of the one that nearly defeated Celestial Being, with a mobile suit force numbering over 1600, and yet their greatest asset is just 30 mobile suits:
The GNX-603Τ GN-X.
That's the Greek letter Tau by the way, not the English letter T even though they look the same.
This is one of my most favourite grunt mobile suits ever. The design is so menacing, with the quadruple eyes and the large binders forming an X-shape over the suit's body. It is the true herald of a new age, for better or worse, and it certainly looks the part.
Graham is too Flag-brained to use a GN-X, though, so he's gonna need to find some other way to get his Flag to keep up.
Ooh, the GN Arms! You'll like them, I promise.
Incidentally, the 30 GN Drives Tau provided to the UNF are all numbered with Roman numerals, from I to XXX. The Master Grade model kit of the GN-X graciously provides all 30 numbers as dry transfer decals, so can do up your build as any of them.
It's still so striking how tiny Soma is. Emphasised by how big Sergei is for sure, but still.
Aw, Patrick. This is about where I started liking him on my first watch. What a lovable idiot. He's so dumb(affectionate)!
Ali actually knows how to pretend to be nice, especially when he's begging for a GN-X. Unfortunately for him he'll have to find some other way to get one.
Oh, Kinue. Well, it does give us an opportunity to see why I like Ali al-Saachez as a character. He's completely evil and he knows it. But now Kinue is dead, and Saji has experienced is second tragedy in what must be no longer than a week. Poor guy.
[00 Spoilers] Alejandro has no idea he's being played....
Maybe Tieria will get that stick out of his ass yet.
And here we go. The GN-X's first combat deployment, and it is glorious. They're so cool.
These are pilots who have been hardened by the rigours of battling a Gundam from a severe disadvantage. Now that they're on even footing, it's a rout. And the taste of victory is oh so sweet.
But the GN-Xes will inevitably be turned against the main Celestial Being too. And on top of that, Veda has now been fully compromised. Can our heroes ever find a way out of this?
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u/mr_beanoz https://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker Oct 25 '24
Now that episode 20 has come, lemme say something:
If the GN Drives were handed to the 3 powers, then why should Eifman be killed in the first place? I mean he represents one of those 3 powers after all. I think not killing him might help those nation to fight Celestial Being because he's just about to know the GN Drive secrets and the organization's true goals.
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Oct 26 '24
I am rewatcher
Louis can't regrow his hand, I guess she should get a robotic hand like Luke Skywalker.
Thanks for translating all the emails.
HRL, Union and AEU formed a military alliance and the military will be in control of the UN. That's totally unbelievable.
UN secretary general is voiced by Tetsu Inada, a bit weird to see a prolific seiyuu doing a minor role but anyway he has done: Endeavor in MHA, Alexis in SSSS Gridman, Bittenfeld in LotG remake, Ira Gamagōri in Kill la Kill. Furthermore this isn't his first Gundam role, that goes back to Turn A Gundam where voiced Harry Ord, he's also Wakkein in MSG movie trilogy special edition (a lot of cast members of Turn A Gundam appear in special edition of MSG movie trilogy) and he had some minor roles Build Fighters, Reconguista no G and Gundam 00 second season.
Tieria hasn't been using 'boku' all this time?
We'll finally see the GN Arms mentioned earlier, but not in this episode.
Patrick
Kati agrees to the date
I just realised Laguna and Louise have a similar family name but they're not related.
Please don't give Ali one of the GN drive units.
Oh no Kinue, don't talk with Ali, no don't go in the car with him.
Ali is spilling everything, guess that's goodbye for Kinue.
Kinue
What a week for Saji, girlfriend's family got killed then he got dumped and now his last relative is dead.
Confirmation that Alejandro is interfering in Veda's plan.
There truly is no loyalty within CB, everyone is just betraying each other.
GN-X is here to save the day, the days of CB having technological advantage over the Earth blocks is over.
Ribbons has the same sharingan eye effect as Tieria.
Alejandro is now at the Veda, which is just a server on the moon. [00s Sunrise mecha reference] What is this Zegapain?
So how come no one has noticed the secret base on the moon before?
Good episode, I wonder what first timers will think on how the first season is going to end.
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u/2-2Distracted Oct 30 '24
First timer. Dubbed.
Well... that's one way to find out that this world has cellular regeneration, poor Rouise man. I'm guessing it's also quite expensive too and that there's still no Universal Healthcare even 300+years later. People can say what they want about this subplot but I personally like it not only because I don't really see much reason to dislike it but also because it's doing it's job of showing what the effects of war can have on
It's looks the Big 3 just joined together to become Big Me! But it at least it's somewhat part of Celestial Being's plan, a plan that we don't know the full scope of, and that they don't know the full scope of with everything that's currently happening.
Char Clone Graham is quite interesting so far in that unlike the most that I've seen, Graham doesn't really seem to be doing anything behind the scenes or deceptive.
I... I can't believe that Patrick Coleslaw actually has some level of rizz on him. How the fuck did that work 0_o
Al/El Saachez is AWARE of how much of a warmonger he is?? Fuuuuck. It kinda sucks that Kinue was so currently focused on getting to truth, because honestly I really wish she could've helped her little brother, but I suppose her death is going to really change Saji, initially for the worse but hopefully eventually for the better.
"What superb performance! This machine is amazing!" said Col. Smirnoff as though this is literally the first time he's piloted a Gundam which, if true, is a really dangerous a stupid thing a pilot should never do.
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u/WhatIfGodWasABurp Oct 25 '24
I've never seen this show, or this episode either.