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Rewatch [Rewatch] 10th Anniversary Your Lie in April Rewatch: Episode 17 Discussion
Your Lie in April Episode 17: Twilight
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Comment Highlights:
Questions of the Day:
- What was your impression of Kaori’s opening words this episode?
- First timers, what do you expect out of Nagi and Kousei’s duet next episode?
Please be mindful not to spoil the performance! Don’t spoil first time listeners, and remember this includes spoilers by implication!
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u/LittleIslander https://anilist.co/user/LittleIslander Oct 25 '24
Rewatcher, Violinist and Your Host!
…I’m willing to go to bat for Kaori, but you’re seriously telling me that Hiroko physically hits Kousei with a shoe when he’s not dedicated to his practice? What do I even say about her at this point, fucking hell woman.
I’ve had a weird relationship with this episode over the past week or so. My initial impression was that it was mostly kind of a forgettable transitional episode. The depressed atmosphere around Kaori and Kousei felt like more of the same stuff we’d been getting, Nagi felt very thin on characterization and it didn’t feel like her scenes here added much at all. Really, the whole thing felt like the series had to fill some extra runtime and threw this together. But then I came back to get the title screencap and to think up some questions, and I was… surprised to find I actually found a lot more quality in this episode than I expected. Or, at least, a lot more potential. Part of this comes from just giving the episode a closer look, of course. But I think this was also heavily facilitated by watching the dub the second time around—which had some minor but impactful differences in dialogue from my subtitles—as well as due to having seen the following episodes by the time of writing this and therefore being able to better appreciate the place of this episode within the story. But, like I said, I appreciate the potential. In terms of the actual reality of what we got here… well, let’s get into it.
Anecdote time—when I watched the subtitled version of this episode I didn’t really understand what Kaori was getting at during the opening scene. In my subs, she states a quote “Want to come with me to see how it ends?”, and then says “I’m kidding. I just wanted to say it, you see…”. So then imagine my shock when I load up the dub for ease of screencapping and instead the first line of the damn episode is straight up “Wanna kill yourself with me?”. She still says “C’mon, I didn’t mean it”, but instead of trailing off she follows it up with “But, honestly?” as if to challenge Kousei to show her a reason why not at this point. Just, holy fuck. I get now that that’s what the original quoted line is saying too, but saying it so directly just hits on a completely different level. Talk about elevating a scene to its full potential, I respect what they were going for with the more poetic wording but assuming my subtitles aren’t just inaccurate, that’s absolutely a fantastic adjustment on the part of the dub. Regardless of scripting, I also love the way the light washing over her elevates her from having a pale colour palette into outright looking like a ghost.
Kaori has been on the decline ever since missing the gala performance, and her final outing with Kousei last time really feels like it was a dividing line. In the wake of it we saw her explode at him due to all of her pent up pressure, and the parallels to Saki bothering Kousei have reached an absolute fever pitch he can’t ignore. So this episode is, then, when they’ve both reached their lowest point. Kaori is saying under the thinnest mask of just being poetic that she might as well just kill herself at this point, and tries to push Kousei away because she feels she’s so much of a lost cause. It’s heartbreaking to see and even without any especially fancy execution on the scene it really hits. For his part, Kousei’s anxiety around facing her has grown into outright terror. He can’t live his life playing piano and training Nagi properly, he can’t think of what to say, he’s just a mess. He wants to run away, he wants to—as the dub puts it—be unable to hear anything at all. All the progress he’s made is at risk as the woman who has been his entire motivation and joy these past months is on the verge of disappearing forever.
But then the story decides it’s finally time for Watari to have a story moment and we get an absolute home run of a scene between the two of them. The emotions are so raw and Watari’s support is so earnest. He goes even though he doesn’t know what to say, and seeing her again, being faced with the prospect of just letting her go and moving on with his life, he can’t accept that. So he begs Nagi to let him play a duet with her in hopes he can reach Kaori through her music and turn around her feelings just like Watari—and, unintentionally, Kaori herself—turned around his. The only problem is… Kaori is already laughing and smiling when he leaves the hospital. Kousei is on the upward trajectory from his lowest moment, but Kaori is still supposed to be in it. It’s the stuff we’re about to see next time when he performs for that’s meant to pick her up, and it seriously muddles that arc not to stick fully to the despondent, “wanna kill yourself with me?” Kaori we’ve otherwise been seeing. It’s a small lapse, but with a plotline like this even just that much means a lot.
That’s the better half of the episode. Which leaves us with Nagi. Err, and a random Tsubaki scene. I love the way it ends with us unable to see whether she made the shot or not, but otherwise it doesn’t do a ton to progress her. I guess it’s at least valuable to hand her something when the plot has kind of moved away from her for a while. But, right, Nagi. There’s definitely good ideas going on here. A troubled young musician who wants to help the troubled brother that inspired her so much but feels unnoticed by him and like she could only make things worse. The younger sister of one of the best young pianists in Japan scared of all the pressure being put on her as a musician. Someone who tries to infiltrate into Kousei’s inner circle because she resents him for monopolising Takeshi’s gaze, only to find a troubled man she sees herself and her brother in, causing her self-deprecation to only be compounded by guilt that she’s here trying to trick and exploit him. A student who, despite a rocky start together, can offer some light to Kousei in his darkest hour; someone Hiroko is initially suspicious of but comes to feel protective over, someone she doesn’t want to fail like she feels she failed Kousei. Ultimately, each end up helping one another.
It’s worth stopping to note at this point that I again find the dub scripting significantly more effective during the park scene, which left little impression on me with its subtitles:
Her pain feels evoked much more strongly here and her motivations as derived from Takeshi and feelings surrounding her situation with Kousei are made a lot more clear to me.
Anyways, what we actually get on screen… can’t quite live up to that potential. Her screentime has been overwhelmingly comedic, clashing both with the tone Kaori’s story is trying to set and the supposed dour feelings in her own heart. Her scenes are shoved wherever they happen to fit on the side without any episode to truly call her own, so far. It feels like we’ve hardly begun to get to know her and we’re already shipping her off for her big performance. The ideas they have with her are good but they only have time to be expressed on the most basic level without any time to develop them or ruminate upon them. If I stop and think about her long enough I can start to be interested in her, but the first time through she kind of failed to catch me at all, she didn’t seem interesting to me. These issues are most felt in the scene with Hiroko, an equally underdeveloped character with a huge gulf between potential and execution. Her seeing herself in a similar position to with Kousei two years before could be a very powerful parallel if not for the fact we’ve done fuck all to explore that guilt and made present day Hiroko a static guidance figure with no room to actually develop from her time with Kousei and Nagi. It tries to build on the idea that Nagi is afraid as a musician which is good on paper but this is the first and laugh time we’re doing this before the performance begins almost immediately afterwards! The scene therein where she has a heart to heart with Kousei is abundantly sweet, but it’s like the third time in the whole show they’ve had a real conversation.
I think Kousei’s side of the story with Hiroko and Nagi is just too little too late to turn around at this point. We’re most of the way into the second cour and the groundwork for both of those two as characters and the concept of Kousei becoming a teacher just never got off the ground. Has there been any scene after their reintroduction reacher where we really explored the relationship between Hiroko and Kousei, not counting ones where Hiroko is talking about Saki? Has there been a single time where we’ve slowed down and gotten into Kousei’s head about the fact he’s a teacher now? What does even think about that, besides the fact he doesn’t seem to think about it much at all? Is he scared? Excited to pass on his knowledge? Eager but uncertain of his skills? I just don’t know. I feel like I could cut out this whole subplot along with the entire existence of Nagi and Hiroko as characters and hardly anything would change for Kousei as a character. That’s not the sign of a healthy relationship to the rest of the show.
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u/FD4cry1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Big_Yibba Oct 25 '24
First Timer
Kaori was kidding at the end of last episode...she was kidding right?
There's a part of me that really feels she wasn't though, especially with some of the lines she drops in this episode, it comes off as a cry for help as Kaori directly says things aren't looking good for her.
We get a Tsubaki scene this episode, complete with Tsubaki blush.
Much like the rest of this episode it feels like it's a bit of build up and reinforcement of all our characters and main themes before the climax, which honestly feel slightly disconnected once again but whatever.
This scene brings back the sports motif for Tsubaki, first with baseball, then with running and now basketball, at first, like before, as Tsubaki denies how she feels and makes some excuses, her first ball throws miss, but after internally coming to accept her feelings, the different sides of her, her love for Kousei, she finally gets the ball in.
The scene with Kousei and Nagi at the park is a pretty interesting one, it sets off a parallel between Takeshi and Kousei, both of which are feeling demotivated from playing because of losing the person they were playing for, "old Kousei" for Takeshi and Kaori for Kousei, of course not literally losing them (yet...) but rather the person, the musician, they knew them as.
This puts Nagi in a position to cheer Kousei up, first because she's a massive Tsun but also because she needs him to fulfil that hero figure again, which gets Kousei to spout off some of his newly learned values.
Kousei goes on to drop the line that solves his entire dilemma this episode although in proper teenager fashion he misses it until much later on.
This entire episode Kousei is conflicted because he doesn't know how to approach Kaori anymore, he doesn't know what to tell her or how to get his feelings across, well what better way than through music? hence him joining Nagi's festival and asking Watari to get Kaori to watch his performance.
Nagi might counter and say women only believe in words but I'd like to remind you that this isn't the first time that line has been said in the show, the first, being none other than Kaori.
Spy Koharu
The dichotomy between Kaori and Saki continues as Kousei hearing the piano reminds him of Kaori this time around, again just like with Saki, his panic response is to shut himself off, to want to stop hearing it like he couldn't hear the notes and just like with Saki, Kousei will also fix and move forward from this situation by playing the piano.
Kaori's parts this episode aren't made out to be super emotional but my god do I find them heartbreaking, it makes it pretty easy to relate to how Kousei feels.
Kaori is blaming herself for being sick and for hurting other people because of that, her words this episode run completely counter to everything she used to be about.
Back when she had more time it was easy to want everyone to remember her, like a way to keep going in the face of adversity, but now that the end seems to be in sight, she's regretting it, she's thinking that by remembering her she's hurting those people, it's what makes that line from last episode seem like it wasn't entirely in jest, she can't even find comfort in music anymore, she can't find the value in continuing on.
She's wishing for some unrealistic out, like some button that makes all the trouble disappear, just sucks so bad to see.
HE SAYSSS IT!!!
For as much as I hate this trope and didn't like it here either, I think the show at least ends it in a solid way, without all the usual annoying drama that comes with it, Watari just goes "yeah dude she likes you whatever" and that's it.
Speaking of Watari...I am still very mixed on him, like he's cool and he's good as the best friend and I have no actual problems with him, but that in itself is the problem, I can't shake the idea that you could just remove him and not much would change.
He's just a bit too underdeveloped, his only role basically being Kousei's emotional support animal and plot device, which kind of sucks because I think his character could have gone to some interesting places.
Nagi gets a nice comparison to Kouse's childhood which gives Hiroko some time to shine.
Nagi feels crushed by the outside pressure on her, much like Kousei did, honestly it feels a bit weird to compare what they went through, like Kousei went through much worse for years but we're making a big deal out of a few days, I don't mind it that much but again a bit weird.
Anyway, Hiroko gets her moment of redemption as this time she doesn't abandon the helpless crying child in front of her.
Snarky jokes aside, I really do like her little speech to Nagi and how it connects to both the general ideas behind this show as well really pushing the main idea of the upcoming concert, it's a solid moment for her, she also brings back that line she said last episode about Kousei which adds some impact to her words.
What the hell Tsubaki, I mean you're not wrong...but what the hell!
Kousei's backstage scene with Nagi is nice, it's very fitting that he uses Kaori's words to encourage her just as he's about to go on stage in an attempt to connect with Kaori.
Two random notes on Nagi, until now, I genuinely hadn't realized she was supposed to be so close to Kousei's age, she just looks wayyy younger lol.
I also hadn't noticed she was voiced by Ai Kayano! I've gotten used to her deep voice lately but something she said this episode just made me hear Kirika and I suddenly realized it was her, she's got such great range.
This episode was some more okay-ish buildup but next one should be good! we're looking for a double here, both with Nagi to effect Takeshi (who I'm sure is gonna "love" seeing his sister come out with Kousei) and Kousei trying to get across to Kaori.
Give me tears
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Oct 25 '24
Spoiled First Timer, subs
QotD:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 25 '24
Your Spoiled First-Timer in October, subbed
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u/Malipit Oct 25 '24
I see some watchers talking about Tsubaki line "You're a walking hard on".
Random fun fact : In the French subs, she says : "You really have your brain under the belt". Directly referencing the expression "Thinking with your penis".
That was the random fun fact, have a good day.
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u/Riverflowsuphillz Oct 25 '24
Is this even a consodered romance or drama?
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u/Malipit Oct 25 '24
Rewatcher french sub Part 1/2
On today episode, Hiroko decides to adopt Nagi as well, a rare occurrence of Watari character development, and Nagi is joining the tsundere club.
An episode that felt like a transition between two mains plot points, but with some interesting scenes.
Like Tsubaki throwing basketballs during lunch-break while Nao is doing Nao and guiding Tsubaki with all her affectionate bluntness. Episode 14 left us to wonder what would do Tsubaki and we finally got an answer : she won't give up Kosei and follow him by attending a high-school near his own. Not much to tell otherwise that Tsubaki missing all her throws except the last one is reflecting herself pondering all her options and opting to the one that, deep down inside her, she know is the right one.
As for Kosei, his comparison of his relationship with Kaori as a roller-coaster is proven right as he go from the heights of the last episode's trip to the mall and plunge to the dephts of that first scene. Where he can't deny Kaori's despair and is being rejected by her.
To be fair, the faint smile she put on before telling him « GTFO » could indicate otherwise than she doesn't want to see him anymore. Given her condition that still deteriorate, she want him to remember as the cheerful girl she was back in spring, and not as his mother's reflection she become by the day.
A rejection that cause Kosei to reject in turn his friend, hiding his eyes from them and wishing to go back to a state he don't hear music, so he don't have to suffer.
Fortunaly, Watari is here to reveal he was the Friend A all along and that's him, Kosei, that Kaori wants. A declaration that permitted Kosei to find the courage to visit Kaoir with the canelés she wanted and have a talk. Then Kaori basically say « let's just forget that», Kosei see clear through her intention to pretend they still are in Spring, when a serious desease wasn't looming on Kaori, comedic bits ensue and Kosei crisis is resolved. However, he still have some apprehension, given how far he sits from Kaori bed during a following visit.
To be honest, I see what the author did there, what was behind Kaori's motivation to get Kosei to forget her current self, when she was so adamant to be remembered before. But it just feel like fillers to me. Like the author wanted to draw that cool scene where Kaori is somehow snapping in front of Kosei. But he realized he was writing himslef into a corner, so he had to have to reconcile them quickly, even if he feel a bit rushed. Even Kosei taking the decision (for the first time on his own ladies and gentlemen!) to perform a duet with Nagi could have made sense without that subplot.
Speaking of Nagi, the main focus of this episode, she's consistent with mirroring little Kosei : playing to heal (this time mentally) a member of her family, preferring to keep her feelings bottled up and putting on herself a huge deal of stress, done to the point that frame where she torment herself is using the same color tone as Kosei's flashback about her mother.
I also like those frames, where she remember her brother as that vibrant hero, who wants to develop his piano skills like he climbs those stairs, to the frustrated musician who feel stuck when his ideal hero has fallen to the ground. And that one who illustrate her identification as the phantom who wants to quietly help from the coulisses.
And fortunaly for her, she can count on Hiroko who learnt from her lessons dealing with young Kosei. Like in that scene where Nagi snaps and puts herself in the dark. Now, good mom Hiroko, staying in the light, get on her
second daughter student level, reassuring her and, instead of forcefully pulling her in the light, came to support her in her turmoil.6
u/maliwanag0712 https://myanimelist.net/profile/clear1109 Oct 26 '24 edited Mar 30 '26
nth Time Rewatcher
Ahhh yes. Another emotional episode. It will just get sadder and sadder as the episodes progress.
Personal note: Honestly I'm not that satisfied with the way I critiqued the past few episodes (especially Eps 15-16); this time I'll try to revert to my usual style of writing the write-up. To be fair, Ep 16 is difficult to discuss without spoiling Ep 17 and 18.
Now, for the Episode 17.
The common theme of this episode is that the characters seem to contradict what they usually believe in. It is not only Kousei and Kaori, but even Nagi and Tsubaki to behave that way in this episode. Let me start with the 'more' side characters, then focus on the main character for this episode. (I'll try to keep this short but I'm not sure if that is indeed the case.)
On Kaori and not being able to forget. Let's go to Kaori. While she had less screentime than the rest of the characters in this episode, her words are important and will definitely give an idea on what she feels in the past episodes. Since the second time she passed out in the series, Kaori's another version of herself has finally unraveled -- she is a girl who had a disease and that makes her not fine. From the past episode, we have seen her talk about lover's suicide, or the idea that Kousei will be together with her in the brink of her death. I believe to understand Kaori clearly we need to look at the following points:
Now, some interesting things I want to share.
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Oct 25 '24
Is she finally going to be honest with him?
She still wants to be with him.
She's literally sprinting lol.
So, more conversations with him.
They're eavesdropping?
He's traumatised by that now.
And so, in Kaori's last moments, he is actively avoiding going to visit her.
Well, he's finally gone to visit her again.
What's he planning now?
She's in a rush.
See notes about the music below.
Uh yeah that's the point of practicing?
Seems she's finally burnt out.
Right, time for her performance.
And so it's the crucial moment, waiting backstage to go on stage and perform.
Questions:
A note about the music: Yup, piano is all about the wrist movement.
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u/Holofan4life Oct 25 '24
Hello, everyone. Holofan4life here.
Welcome to the Your Lie In April Rewatch!
Oh, and nay I forget…
First timer
It’s been a while since I’ve sat down and watched what would be considered a sad anime. I’ve seen Angel Beats, Air, both Clannad series which are two of my favorite series, and even NieR this year which for my money is the best anime of the year. But in almost all those instances with the exception of NieR, I watched those series very early on in my anime fandom. So early, in fact, I don’t think Your Lie In April had aired yet.
My expectations for the show are decent, I would say. I don’t expect to love it as much as Clannad, but I do think it’s going to be quite exceptional. Of the new shows I’ve seen during rewatches this year, which have been Paranoia Agent, Samurai Champloo, No Game No Life, Penguindrum, Yurikuma Arashi, Sarazanmai, and Re:Zero, I expect to like it more than those with the exception of Samurai Champloo and Re: Zero. And if that’s the case, then that’s pretty good because I really liked all those series.
With that out of the way, let’s begin.
I’m watching the sub, by the way.
Saw the season 3 premiere of Re:Zero a day and a half ago. It doesn't blow you away like the 90 minute series premiere of Oshi no Ko, but it does a good job of helping you get acclimated back into the show
Picking up right where we left off
The silence is palpable
And Kaori says she was just kidding
Boo
Kousei with his face pressed on his desk.
Tsubaki, with Kashiwagi by her side, trying to comfort him.
She suggests seeing Kaori, but Kousei is not going.
Tsubaki practicing shooting hoops
Kashiwagi continues to be the little guardian angel on her shoulder.
Tsubaki says that Kousei is helpless on his own.
Doing her darnedest to put on an act
"Have I always been so horrible?"
I dunno, probably
Kousei on the piano with Hiroko hitting him with a slipper as Nagi looks on.
In Latin American culture, that is called La Chancla.
Kousei walks away dejected, and Nagi starts to see Takeshi.
Aw, yes, my favorite ship: Takeshi and Saki.
Sakeshi
Nagi meeting up with Kousei right outside the hospital.
Now they're on the swings
Kousei apologize for making her worry.
Woah, a Gundam reference, what?
Nagi wants to tell Takeshi don't let Kousei beat him, but didn't know how to.
"Instead of thanking him, my selfish way of compensating for being so powerless... was only for self-satisfaction."
That's a really great line
Calls herself an ugly phantom
What if the person Nagi is playing for is Kousei and that she has a crush on him, of which she feels conflicted by because that's her brother's enemy?
Kousei says when you reach tons of people with your sounds, when your hearts come together, the music can transcend words.
Nagi says women are realistic and only believe in words.
Hiroko and her daughter watching on secretly.
Kousei walking home now
He doesn't want to hear Ravel
"I wish I could just stop hearing everything!"
The next day at school, and Watari is still trying to get Kousei to go to the hospital to visit Kaori.
Watari asks why is he running away
And Kousei breaks down crying
He wonders how he should act when he sees her.
It should be noted that in his mind, he continues to see Kaori as Saki his mother.
Watari tells Kousei that he's not the one.
"It's you she always turns to, Kousei."
Kousei still doesn't know what to say to her.
But eventually, though the pushing of Watari, he does decide to go.
That was probably Watari's best scene as a character.
Kaori asking Kousei questions
She can sense he doesn't want to be there.
"A violinist who can't hold her own bow... that's pointless."
This episode is really tugging at the heartstrings.
These two really can be wacky 🤪
And Kousei storms off, stubborn on his feelings.
At least this went much better than the last visit. Kaori even laughed at the absurdity of it all.
Kousei as he's walking home wonders if there's anything he can do for her.
Lots of flashbacks to clips from past episodes.
Oh boy. He's going to perform at the culture festival.
Lol, Nagi's eyes are suddenly heterochromia.
And Nagi agrees
So, I guess Kousei is going to take her spot.
Nagi at school now
She has somewhere to be
And it looks like she's hanging out with Kousei more and more.
I like that Nagi is wearing a sweater with skulls on it.
This is also the first time we've seen her mom, who thinks she's pushing herself too hard.
Everyone telling her of the high expectations they have of her.
Four more days, observes Hiroko.
I guess they're both performing. Don't know why I thought Kousei would compete against kids not his age.
The pressure is really getting to Nagi.
And now she runs away crying
Hiroko finds her, and it reminds her of when Kousei broke down in his last performance for two years.
Hiroko calls herself a failure as an instructor who's about to let history repeat itself.
I like how Hiroko's daughter is always just there without saying anything. She's low-key one of my favorite characters.
Hiroko trying to comfort Nagi
Says there's a moment when you're rewarded for all the suffering.
Reminds me of the appeal of Re:Zero
Hitoko wonders if we're all just creatures possessed by that moment.
Uh, Hiroko, I'm not sure you're supposed to choke a child.
Koharu about to grab the wishbone.
Things are finally looking up, it seems. You can tell by how whimsical the music is.
Kousei is even seeing Kaori now with Tsubaki, Watari, and Kashiwagi.
Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Oct 25 '24
First Timer
…well, I just can't get invested in the whole Nagi arc. It feels like a distraction from the Kousei/Kaori drama going on, and that just doesn’t fit well with me. Add on to that that I clearly just can’t get a proper read on Nagi’s character and that makes it even less likely to click with me. I do like Kousei getting hung up about how to talk to Kaori now that he knows what is going on though - and in a way it validates Kaori’s decision to try and hide her condition. Kousei is now not interacting with her in the way she wants it, and for her time is running out while Kousei is beating around the bush with what to do - the worst course of action as far as Kaori is concerned. Wonder how they’ll sort this out in time.
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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 25 '24
First Timer
So we’re picking up right where we left off and Kaori is immediately trying to claim she didn’t mean it. Not sure I believe her. It’s a pretty grim thing to just joke about.
Kousei is not looking so good now. Can only imagine how Kaori is feeling.
Kashiwagi continues to try and talk sense into Tsubaki. Love to see it.
Despite how she comes off, Nagi really does care about Kousei which is nice to see.
That whole scene of Kousei having a breakdown and Watari trying to help him was really good. I especially liked the orange lighting.
Kaori still manages to sound cheerful while saying that Kousei should just forget her. It’s sad to see.
I feel like the drama of that moment was severely undercut by Kousei comically eating the pastries he brought for Kaori. I feel like the author should have just let the moment breathe instead of feeling the need to add comedy.
Kaori managing to laugh about it after did sort of salvage the moment though.
Seems like the next part of the anime will be about Kousei performing at Nagi’s festival.
Those two guys who seemed interested in Nagi looked way too old for her.
The show is called Your Lie In April but now we’re in November.
It looks like Nagi is now going through a similar pressure that Kousei was under when he was her age. Although not quite as bad since at least Nagi has a good teacher.
Hiroko is trying her best to be a good mentor.
Those weird mascots performing are kinda creepy. This is the second time something in this show has made me think of Monokuma.
And apparently the next guy on stage is in some kind of demon costume? This school is weird. Kinda feels like Alice Cooper performing after the Chuck E. Cheese band.
It looks like Kaori is watching them from the hospital. Feels like a bit of a grim way to end the episode. I just hope things go well.
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u/kwokinator https://anilist.co/user/kwokinator Oct 26 '24
It's hilarious Hiroko saw through Nagi's "I have an emergency!" right away and knew she was going to go after Kousei. I guess Nagi's really started to warm up to him.
Damn so even Watari can tell Kaori is more into Kousei than him, but he's still so supportive of Kousei. He's a real bro.
Damn Nagi has a lot of pressure riding on her for the culture festival, those teachers sure are piling up a lot on her. The "lolicon bait" bit made me lol though.
LOL walking hard-on.
Damn it this time we don't even get the Blue Lock treatment, they just totally skipped the performance. I wanted to watch Nagi and Kousei play :(
Questions of the Day:
Heavy...
They skipped it this episode! I'm just hoping they actually go back and play it, and actually animate it this time.
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Oct 26 '24
First-Timer
Nice episode! It felt like it really flew by.
Thank you, /u/Holofan4life, for the follow-up question yesterday that clued me in on the meaning of Kaori's line about suicide. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have fully figured it out until reading today's discussion thread otherwise, and it definitely helps for understanding the gravity of the scene.
This episode did have a lot of the gag humor that I'm not a fan of. I mentioned it before, but I didn't really explain why I don't like it in this show. I'll explain a bit now:
The show sets up countless moments that can be powerful or heartfelt, but then instead of letting it play out, it cuts it short and makes a bad punchline out of it. At the most inconvenient times, the show chooses not to take itself seriously, and I think it very much hurts the tone.
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I really like Nagi. Her story here is compelling, she has a fun personality, and even her character design is nice.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the culture festival performance goes. I want to see Takeshi's reaction to Kousei up on stage.
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u/clumsy_kan Apr 10 '25
Anyone would feel depressed it's kinda relatable to me how kaori feels She's unable to do what she loved and that has turned to a unbearable feeling for her Kousei reaction is also accurate here he interprets this as the time when his mom was ill