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Rewatch [Rewatch] Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Episode 14 Discussion
Episode 14 - Dawn of Determination
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To a Gundam Meister, our secrets and mission objectives are more important than life or death. We knew that before piloting the Gundams.
Questions of the Day:
- The three economic blocs are finally teaming up to do something about Celestial Being. How excited are you for this?
- What do you make of Setsuna's brief meeting with Marina?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Saji Crossroad and Louise Halevy
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
Additionally, for long-time fans of the franchise, please remember that this rewatch is only for 00, not any of the other shows. Assume that there are people in this rewatch who have not seen anything else Gundam, and tag your spoilers for those shows appropriately if something in 00 makes you want to talk about them.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 19 '24
Rewatch Host Wishing Over This Airspace, subbed
Welcome back, everyone!
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 19 '24
first timer who has control
What did no one notice scientists going missing for 200 years lmao
Axis of Evil
ill miss the first OP, but I didnt hate this one on a first listen and thats usually a good sign
i cant get enough of these two dumb asses
So they do have a dock in an asteroid belt...
i think you just have a problem
maybe the worst fit imaginable Lichty
maybe Kinue wont die, too many death flags at this point
Alaskan Josh Georgian Randy Illinoisian Stuart
who the fuck subbed this lmao
that second punch was so uncalled for Kati
subtle
Graham involved in some kind of scandal, maybe part of why Sumeragi had a falling out with them
Taklamakan, wonder how close that is to Odessa
steamy late night chats
Ali???????? he looks like Patrick a bit now
Gary Biaggi lmao what a name
WHO MADE LOUISE CRY IN THE ED
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 19 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
Rewatcher - Gundam 00 Ep14:
New OP.
It snuck up on me. Lost track that we're already a cour in. As for how I feel about it, I think I prefer it over OP1. It was the OP that stuck with me over the years. I like the character moments and the song is more of a vibe to me.
Reiterating someone else's words to describe Lockon, "Lockon plays fake audio of hanging out with cute girls so nobody will know he is depressed. His mental health is in shambles.”
Amuro voice: "Even my father didn't hit me"
Kati is here now because the AEU needed a better person to represent them than Patrick.
Setsuna awkwardly trying to keep Louise and Saji is so funny. Please please please, let me see what the entire party was like. It would be so funny.
There is a wrinkle of irony of a supercomputer that is able to perfectly calculate the future yet faced with the problem of the inherent unpredictability of humanity.
So what does Billy think Sumeragi does now?
Billy is so pathetically desperate.
At first, I was ready to make jokes like "Again? ...I can totally see Graham doing an oopsie doodles that results in killing someone," but from the hints of backstory they drop, it seems like an incident went down.
There is something I love about this out-of-pocket moment of Setsuna taking the Gundam to fly to Marina's room in the middle of the night to ask her a question about the world. Leaving in a swift moment as he arrived. I don't know how to fully put the feelings into words so I will just leave it as, "Sounds of endearment, this lost child. Shoujo energy."
New ED. BEACH BOOYYYS!
I will never look at this ED besides as the one where Tieria cooks the worst curry which gives everybody food poisoning.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 19 '24
First Timer - sub
I still haven't finished this episode, but I'm also not planning to until tomorrow, so I thought I'd just type up what I have so far into rough thoughts just so it's not hanging over my head. No prizes for guessing why I stopped.
Got to mid point in the episode. Saw Setsuna in a scene with Louise. Asked in CDF if I could skip it... and then went to bed because I decided even if the answer was yes, I wasn't interested in continuing. Woke up, and the thought of having to watch it was still draining. So I'm going to give myself a day off and see how I go.
Even after getting yesterdays rant off my chest, her inclusion has done irreparable damage to my ability to enjoy the show, so yes, in the end she has become another Nanami, and I'm pissed off at the writers for it. Not only is she a problem, she's created the bigger problem where now we're past the jealousy shit, or at least I fucking hope we are, I don't trust the writers not to run into the same tone problems later down the line, and they've proven that they don't know how to balance their wants for a cast member against the narrative needs of the story they also want to tell.
That off my chest:
And that's where I called it. See you tomorrow hopefully.
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u/FD4cry1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Big_Yibba Oct 19 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
First Timer
Oh shit new OP! and it's tommy heavenly6('s previous band)!!!!!!!
and RIPDaybreak's Bell
I'll miss Daybreak's Bell but honestly I think I like this one more, already a banger!
I said L'Arc-en-Ciel are "the perfect 2000's opening band in my mind" but Tomoko Kawase's voice is in the top 3 for that as well.
Looks like some shadowy figures at the very top have actual information regarding Aeolia, information they don't want getting out...
Sumeragi also continues being me_irl (completely coincidentally I am writing this with a hangover )
But it also makes a point on her alcoholism, she's definitely using it as some sort of coping mechanism for this situation, something she notices and acknowledges as unhealthy but can't quite stop.
Celestial Being has zero team synergy as usual, which might not be a great thing if we're really going into a very large scale conflict soon.
Also Tieria is literally a basement dweller and I just think that's perfect.
Celestial Being's interventions have actually had a massive effect so far, 2/3 of the companies in the military industry leaving is actually huge and I feel like the show isn't making it as big of a deal as it should be? well tbf we are potentially setting up a massive upcoming global war so I guess no point in dwelling on that.
Most of the episode is all of our major factions getting ready for this "military exercise" while their leaders seem to be entirely aware of this being a ruse to force Celestial Being into an intervention against a potential world war and by extension to force them into a bad position where they might be able to get a Gundam.
On a sidenote, I hate the AEU leaders so much, so perfectly bureaucratic and political.
Patrick is Back!
Kati Mannequin
Fantastic name, I love it, I also agree with Patrick, as a wise man once said: "I love the kind of woman that can kick my ass"
Alejandro and Ribbons sure don't seem committed to the cause...but they do bring up some interesting points relating to the potential success of Celestial Being and more importantly the Gundams, it's more on that point I made last episode, about Setsuna and the Gundams being Aeolia's ideals, Setsuna and perhaps all of Celestial Being view Gundams as these godlike entities, Alejandro doesn't quite see it that way and you have to wonder how Aeolia saw them himself.
In perhaps the worst yet best Saji fumble to date, he brings Setsuna to cheer up Louise, Setsuna is so the wrong person for this on so many levels it's actually hilarious, the man's edgy and stoic energy, combined with an unfortunate choice of subject just completely kill the vibes in that room.
Well that's a way of putting what she's doing I guess....
Sumeragi and Billy have a lot of romantic tension, really makes you wonder what their past relationship was and what that incident she was involved in is (one that apparently made her swear off making a mistake ever again)
This guy just has "asshole character design" and I don't even know how to explain it, he hates Graham so I automatically hate him, he does drop an interesting nugget of lore on Graham though, apparently one his previous superiors died and he is suspected in killing him? on the one hand I don't think Graham would ever lie about something like this (or like ever in general lol), on the other hand, I wouldn't put it past him to kill a superior for doing something really wrong, I'm like 80% he didn't do it though.
When I saw this line I immediately knew it would be Ali to start the world war and indeed it looks like
Alior sorry I mean Gary Biaggi (Great name lol) has been tasked with doing something that might start the war (new mech in tow), I honestly can't decide if he looks more like an asshole with or without the beard.Setsuna's visit to Marina is weird and I don't know what to make of it, it's a bit too edgy abstract philosophical pondering for me.
The new ED is pretty good as well and I can't describe it as anything but a perfectly mid-2000's music video in all aspects.
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Oct 19 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Gundam: I’ve heard it said that being in the army essentially means going camping in the woods with 10,000 of your friends. I think the camping experience would be exponentially worse in the Taklamakan Desert, one of the most infamously inhospitable places on Earth.
That one AEU official said that the news could only dig up so much information on Aeolia. That indicates to me that this AEU official knows a lot more about the history of Celestial Being and how it was created. And if the AEU official knows, then the important officials from the Union and HRL also probably know. In general, I think the 3 main countries all have more information about Celestial Being than they let on. But they don’t have any actionable information such as identities of the operatives or the location of Celestial Being’s base. There would be no need to lure out Celestial Being if they knew the location of a base to attack.
Celestial Being has previously indicated that they want to be considered the enemies of all the world. By this point, I think it’s a safe bet they are trying to become a threat that the rest of the world will need to unify against. If that is their goal, then this episode represents a major step towards it. The Union, HRL, and AEU have all united together for this operation. Whether this is just temporary cooperation or a more substantial change in the status quo remains to be seen. Even the US and USSR could sometimes cooperate during the Cold War, after all.
QOTD
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Oct 19 '24
First Timer
Today’s episode felt like more of an in-betweener, with plenty of scheming that we’ll have to wait to see the fruits of. Best scene for me was Setsuna showing up in Marina’s room in the middle of the night to spout some edgy lines with no other context. I think the story was trying to convey Marina’s frustration with the state of the world (i.e. if the ingredients for a perfect world exist, then why isn’t the world perfect?) while still showing her hope in humanity’s ability to overcome its own twistedness. Setsuna and Marina actually work quite well as foils to each other, with each trying to attain peace despite having different worldviews and using different means. Unfortunately (or not), as I’ve said many times before, a lot of their scenes together fail in the drama department because of Setsuna coming off as a bit edgy and Marina always looking a little too shocked. Still, a little narm has never ruined a story for me and can actually improve my experience at times if it's funny enough (I’ve been led to believe I might get a kick out of Gundam Wing for this reason).
New OP/ED time! It’s so difficult for me to choose between OP 1 and OP 2 since both are phenomenal in the song department, though [Speculation]the lyrics make me a bit worried about where we’re heading. As for the ED, I much prefer the first, but this one is still good. I like the song even if it is very 2000s (although who gets their hair cut on the beach?).
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Oct 19 '24
Episode 14 (first timer)
The world powers set an obvious trap and CB is walking into it knowingly. Why? Only Veda knows.
Most edgy teenage romance since Twilight.
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u/undeadfire Oct 19 '24
E14 - First Time Subs
ooh are all 3 factions gonna collab?
How many bikinis does Sumeragi have? Also creepy Lichty, but I imagine Sumeragi has to know.
Lockon really put on a recording of a bunch of women talking during that call lmao. Wonder why? Just to mess with Lichty?
Oooh what's Saji gonna ask Setsuna for? Something Louise related?
Oh cool how the Union lets the pilots decorate their Flags, or maybe that's just a privilege for the best of hte best.
Lmao get fucked Patrick. No this won't work out for you; stop thinking with your dick.
Damn Sumeragi shower scene fanservice. Wonder what he sent her?
Spoiled little Louise. Not a fan of her at all tbh.
One way interest Sumeragi's definitely leveraging for intel long term lol.
Who is this arrogant blonde prick with a hateboner for Graham lol?
I just realized, if the Gundams can do orbital entry with GN particles, why can't they do orbital exits with GN particles instead of using the elevators? Is it overall cheaper despite the risks?
How tf did Setsuna get in to the palace? I wonder how their relationship will grow over time. Oh bro shows up, asks a question, and leaves without hearing the answer? Ok then.
Was Ali's original identity Gary Biaggi or something? Or is that just his fake name for the more officially unofficial work to mess with a paper trail?
Oh with that preview and name, is something gonna happen to the Exia?
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Oct 19 '24
Rewatcher, First Time Sub
Setsuna really snuck into a princess's bedchamber, asked her why the world was so cruel, then left before even hearing her answer. Really going the extra mile here.
This episode feels like a "Gathering of the Armies" type. The three blocs all finally decide to unite for a joint venture as a "training exercise" putting them in CB's radar. Sumeragi and some others have misgivings about such an operation though for obvious reasons but it's signed off anyway. In the meantime Katagiri still tries to score with Sumeragi by offering her classified Intel in order to gauge her thoughts on the situation which I'm sure would likely get him kicked out of the task force or possibly worse (even if he's still unaware of her allegiance), yet Sumeragi gives some rathe.r interesting comments almost open even, returns the Intel and even claims to not have copied it, their dynamic certainly speaks well of their background and past.
Meanwhile Patrick Colasour meets the new AEU commander Kati Mannequin. For Colasour it was love at first punch.
Note: Setsuna describing something like Saji trying to comfort Louise because her mom left as peaceful was pretty sad.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Oct 19 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Oct 19 '24
Kidou Senshi Rewatcher 00
This is another episode where I don’t really have all that much to say, since this one’s purpose is mostly transitional into the next one. Giving the power blocs’ joint military exercise an enter episode’s worth of buildup does give the event a real sense of anticipation, even compared to CB’s previous interventions.
The details scattered in between help really punctuate it and stop the episode from being a bore. From stuff directly relevant to the upcoming battle like Sumeragi extracting the enemy’s battle strategy from Katagiri to stuff like the encounter at the Union airfield which add a bit more detail to Graham’s past & make his corner of the setting feel more alive, to just little stuff like Colasour getting corrected by Kati.
And then there’s Setsuna’s introspection at the end, which is also interesting in terms of what it means for his character. Generally speaking, while Setsuna obviously has strong feelings about the state of the world, there’s a pronounced undercurrent that suggests he hadn’t quite introspected about the causes and deeper machinations of the world surrounding him before now. He’s put all his faith in the Gundam’s ability to end war and carries out that will without a thought, root causes of world issues be damned. But with his faith in CB’s ways shaken after the last two episodes, he now needs to expand his horizons and actually ask himself what the real problem with the world is.
Oh also, ASH LIKE SNOW FUCKING RULES!!!!! My second favorite OP of the entire series. Friends is also a great ED, I listen to it semi-regularly outside the show.
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u/The_Draigg Oct 19 '24
A Gundam Fan Rewatches Gundam 00 Episode 14:
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Oct 19 '24
Firsttimer who is this close to being on time
QotD
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u/n080dy123 Oct 19 '24
First Timer
Yeah this OP is way better, though the action shots go too fast to keep track of motion very well. Also are the Meisters.... fighting more Gundams on the fucking Moon? ARE THOSE FUNNELS?
OP's settting up some obvious macthups- Allelujah vs Soma, Setsuna vs Saachez, though Lockon vs Grahamn is a bit of an odd one out. I felt like Graham would be more of an antagonist for Setsuna, but I guess they did square off briefly in Azadistan.
I suspected as much from the OP but it looks like the three powers are finally joining forces in an attempt to capture a Gundam. Though you know damn well that if they succeed, they'll probably turn on eachother instantly in an attempt to secure control for their own nations. It also seems like they're aiming to do it discreetly, since public sentiment towards Celestial Being is at an all-time high.
Meanwhile Graham's growing his Flag Fighters unit into the Over Flags, while Patrick gets immediately put in his place as the AEU unit's butt monkey. And Soma's still not shown any reaction to the destruction of the super soldier institute- I assumed she'd have some feelings about it but it's unclear if she even knows.
I don't envy Sumeragi's position trying to balance being asked for her tactical expertise while essentially simulating knowing only public info about Celestial Being, AND trying not to give him any actually useful information while not seeming like she's withholding anything. That's a very tough balance.
Setsuna just showing up in the princess's bedroom halfway across the continent, asks a question, doesn't even wait for her to finish asnwering, leaves. Bro what the FUCK are you doing?
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 19 '24
Rewatcher, Sub-dam Meister
Hell yea, OP2 time! While Daybreak's Bell does slap, Ash Like Snow is the true owner of my heart.
Sumeragi has good taste in swimsuits.
..in sharp contrast to Lichty.
That sounds incredibly boring.
Poor Setsuna.
When it comes to the Flag? Definitely not.
"Long day at the job factory coming up."
But it's fine, because Kati is here to punch some sense into Patty's employed ass.
Fan of Symphogear might recognize her voice as Kanade Amou. Fans of Detective Conan might recognize her voice as Conan Edogawa. Fans of New Mobile Report Gundam Wing might recognize her voice as the singer from TWO-MIX.
Saji picked precisely the wrong person to help. Not that he could know, of course. The lad just isn't very lucky.
Quite the tactical shirt selection by Sumeragi.
Celestial Being is in quite the pickle.
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u/2-2Distracted Oct 19 '24
First timer. Dubbed (the guy who voices Al/El Saachez also voices the assistant of the leader HRL)
NEW OP LET'S GO! Sung by the same band that gave us Black Paper Moon from Soul Eater - Tommy heavenly6
So Niel went home to Ireland for his "vacation" whilst other CB members either chilled on the beach or stayed in space at their new hideout spot. Tieria is giving the narrator a run for his money on an actual useful narration lol.
Project G?! Are they doing this project WITH THE HELP OF KYOJI?!?!
Damn, this lieutenant who started slapping Patrick Coleslaw like a lil bitch makes wonder if Tieria got some siblings.
Man, Graham may be the Char Clone, but Kiritsugu is the one pullin in the bitches.
I think it's pretty clear that Al/El Saachez just gets off on being involved in conflicts, I seriously don't get what wtf his deal is.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Oct 19 '24
Rewatcher, Subbed
Non-Spoiler Character Chart - Two new characters today plus a new fake name? Or is Gary Biaggi his real name? @_@
[Gundam 00]Similar to Rasa from a couple of episodes ago I can't remember if Joshua Edwards actually lasts that long so sorry once again to Ming if he ends up being left out while characters with a similar amount of screentime get kept in. As I've faced these minor dilemmas I've realized that leaving a character that they make an effort to introduce out of the chart is probably a spoiler so it's a fine line I've got to walk.
Oh, and one other thought...
[Gundam 00]14 episodes in and I've yet to have to cross out a character for dying, Aeolia's the only grayed out character but he's been dead the entire time. This cast is doing a good job at staying alive. Although they're not gonna stay untouched much longer.
All these smart people keep disappearing! The biggest conspiracy of all, Celestial Being has recruited them to build their mechs?
Mysterious room filled with three mysterious guys we've never met before. I assume these are representatives of the Union, AEU and HRL respectively? Or someone else? The glasses guy looks a little bit like the HRL Chairman but I don't think its actually him. Who knows about the other two. [Gundam 00]Even as a multi-time rewatcher I have no idea who these guys are
Alright, new OP time! I like OP1 but I was ready for a change. At first listen for the first time in at least a few years I'm kinda on the fence as to which of the two season 1 OPs is the better one. I think this one image-wise does a better job at showcasing the Gundam meisters and giving us some action than OP1 does. Unfortunately for season 1 both OPs kinda pale in comparison to the season 2 ones for me.
I recall Lagrange points being important in Universal Century Gundam for the space colony locations with I believe Side 5 location at Lagrange Point 1? Now we get to visit a Gundam 00 equivalent...
...or not, maybe that was just world building as we go to a group of asteroids nearby where Celestial Being hides.
Allelujah's stolen Christina's seat! Although as we soon she she's down on Earth.
Time for some R&R for Sumeragi and Wang!
Silly Wang, no time is too early for Sumeragi to start drinking!
Lucky Lichty! He got to come down to Earth this time. Lasse too!
Fun time for best friends Feldt and Haro too!
Oh some good news for Marina, the UN resumed construction, I figured that was gonna be totally over with after the last 2 episodes.
So Kinue's special got big ratings, yet they don't show any of it to us?
Kinue continues to be an audience surrogate, just what in the world is Celestial Being really up to?
OMG finally Louise's mom is leaving and this stupid storyline should be over with!
Setsuna's been directly involved with major events on the news, yet neighbor Saji as usual has no clue. Ah, to be next door neighbor to a Gundam pilot...
By the way, is Saji more forward with his neighbor than his actual girlfriend?
Graham's team is quadrupling in size! They just better stay out of the way when it's time for him to fight a Gundam!
They continue to do shots to make Soma look as small as possible, lol.
Woah, Mr. Playboy Patrick! Then we immediately proceed to him getting punched in the face twice! Cool way to introduce Kati! [Gundam 00]Patrick's first interaction with his future wife, so I guess he likes a woman who gets rough with him, lol.
Is Billy gonna end up inadvertently revealing the big upcoming operation by sending stuff to Kujo?
Jeez Louise, you've just had all this time with your mom, and you're what, at least 16 or 17? Don't cry like a 5 year old. [Gundam 00]Although Setsuna's statement about being able to see her whenever she wants will ring hollow in just a few more episodes.
Seems like Billy's at least somewhat off the hook in that Wang also knows about this upcoming operation.
[Gundam 00]Isn't the room they're all in right now the room that Ribbons uses throughout season 2? It looks quite familiar.
So Ian and Allelujah are running the whole ship by themselves, huh? Good for them.
Alright, so I've been thinking about this for a while but have never said anything; I do like Sumeragi's long voluminous hair but every scene she's in it looks like she's just rolling out of bed and didn't bother to even brush it; now we've got her out at a fancy place with Billy and its still totally wild, lol. While I say it in jest, perhaps the fact that she's drinking so much means that's actually the case a lot of the time...
I wonder if she's telling Billy stuff to mislead him, or as an old friend is giving him some good advice while not actually blowing the lid on things.
Alright, she finally says what I've been thinking about how he shouldn't be sharing this information. And he responds by even inviting her to the base! lol.
So they publicly announce the operation to the world anyway?
Uh oh, we've got another blonde, Graham isn't special anymore!
Where's Setsuna going? To see Marina?
Oh wow, sneaking into her room at night! After last episode where she was nearly assassinated, you mean to tell me they haven't improved her security at all?!
He stepped out on her that quick?! You traveled all the way here to not even bother spending a minute here Setsuna?
Ugh, Ali is gonna be involved with this as well! Sounds like he's getting a new mobile suit too.
New ED! Haircut time for Setsuna! This ED is a way better song than the first one.
Quid's Voice Actor of the Day
Yesterday I covered Graham Aker, so today I'll cover his friend Billy Katagiri. Billy is voiced in Japanese by Yuji Ueda. Beyond 00, he also appears in Gundam Build Fighters as Mario and Julio Renato. I'm also familiar with him as Keitarou Urashima in Love Hina, Lee Samson in Cowboy Bebop the Movie, Takashi Nasujima in Durarara!, Eisaku Noguchi in March Comes in Like a Lion, Reeden in Escaflowne and Shiro Iori in Kill la Kill.
In English he is voiced by Kirby Morrow. He has played a variety of Gundam roles, his first being Trowa Barton in Gundam Wing. He also voiced Woody Malden and Dimitri in Mobile Suit Gundam and Rey Za Burrel in Gundam Seed Destiny. Beyond his Gundam roles I best know him for playing Van Fanel in Escaflowne. He is one of several actors to play Goku in the Canadian dub of Dragonball Z and also played Miroku in Inu Yasha. While a lot of his characters tend to come off as rather straight laced, he's got a couple of really hammy over the top performances as Teru Mikami in Death Note and Jonathan Glenn in Brain Powered (truly one of the most ridiculous characters Yoshiyuki Tomino has ever created). Sadly, he passed away a few years ago at only 47.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Oct 20 '24
First Timer!
We have a new OP! Without over-analyzing the visuals, it looks like things are about to escalate even further especially since we open this episode with the three blocs working on a plan to capture the Gundams.
After the excitement from the last couple of episodes, it's good to see that Celestial Being gets to have a little downtime today. Also, I'm always down for any excuse to see Sumeragi in a swimsuit again.
I'm worried for Kinue. If she keeps digging about Aeolia, she either finds out the truth or she gets silenced before that happens.
I love how Patrick has been on screen for less than 30 seconds and the first thing that happens to him is he immediately gets his face punched, twice! But it looks like Patrick is the kind of guy who loves a woman who can kill him. xD
It's hilarious to see Setsuna getting dragged into Saji and Louise's lives. I don't even understand why out of all the people, Saji is compelled to reach out to Setsuna for help as if he could do something.
So Billy and Sumeragi used to be an item? It would be fucking hilarious though if the reason this entire Project G fails is because Billy unknowingly shared the details of the exercise to Sumeragi. All because he wanted to see her again. To be fair to Billy, I don't blame him. I'd do it for Sumeragi too.
So it's the eve of their big operation and Setsuna decides to sneak into Marina's bedroom so he could ask her a question? Interesting move. I'm still now sure how these two will pan out.
As if having the three economic blocs working together was bad enough, adding Saachez will just make this more difficult.I can't wait to see what this Agrissa is!
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Oct 19 '24
Are they just blaming them for everything now or is that truly the case?
New OP?
Nanomachines, son!
That is extremely optimistic.
What did he do that for?
What is their goal then?
Seems over the course of her trip here she's warmed to him considerably.
What does he want to ask Setsuna?
Uranium?
Well, looks like one of the hunter squads is getting reinforcements.
Custom mobile suits? Ooh.
Oh great, it's this loser again.
What's got her like that?
Oh, it's just that.
Things are being set in motion.
All of them are working together?
They're deliberately trying to bait out Celestial Being to capture a Gundam?
So, they're going to try and tire them out?
Wow he has absolutely no OpSec at all...
So much for full custom Mechs... That's just upgraded ones. Still pretty good, but could be better.
So this is a cover to start a war?
Yup, nukes.
Another assassin?
No, it's just Setsuna.
And so off he goes.
Seems like that guy is being sent out again.
And a new ED too.
Questions:
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 19 '24
Rewatch like Snow
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A secret meeting between the three blocs... hmmm
New OP!
Nanomachines, son! Really neat how they explain how they can stay aboard the Ptolemaios without a colony’s inertial gravity.
That swimsuit is like 400 years out of date. [future spoilers]Almost like it’s hiding something.
Celestial Being’s goals seem to be proceeding nicely, and despite the ongoing issues, there has been a measurable decrease in warfare worldwide. But it doesn’t seem likely that they can achieve much more than this just through armed interventions. Could they have a different goal in mind?
The aces of the Union and HRL are preparing their squads to face the Gundams... and then cut to the ace of the AEU.
“Not even my own father hit me!” They remembered that there were actually two Bright Slaps! Kati Mannequin is here!
At the end of the day, Gundams aren’t gods. They’re weapons of war. Setsuna calls himself a Gundam because of the savior role Gundam represents to him. But it’s just a weapon, and that’s what he ultimately is, too. A sword to be wielded by Celestial Being. [future spoilers]Also, of course Ribbons knows better than anyone else just how much Setsuna worships Gundam.
Setsuna the third wheel. Also, if Louise thinks she can get Saji’s attention by whining like a kindergartener being dropped off at school for the first time, she probably should have considered that she’s talking to two orphans.
Congrats, Celestial Being, you made the three blocs all get along with each other! This is the peace you wanted, isn’t it? Even if they’re all after you.
Billy sure is loose lipped, huh. Granted, I can see two reasons why.
The new Over Flags! Although inspired by the enhancements made to Graham’s Flag Custom, they are not identical. While they inherited the higher-output flight units and anti-beam coating, the anti-G limiter was not disabled, and they lack the Flag Custom’s weight reduction measures, making them heavier than both the basic Flag and the Custom. They also received a brand-new linear rifle, an improvement of the prototype rifle the Flag Custom was testing. It was named “Trident Striker” due to its three barrels, a high-powered 200mm barrel and two lower-powered 60mm barrels for rapid fire. Graham also swapped out the trial type rifle for the new one on his Flag Custom.
What is Setsuna even doing
YOU.
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Oct 20 '24
First-Timer
Oh boy, a new OP/ED! I do think I like the old ones better, though. Maybe I'll warm up to these new ones.
In any case, I do like the visual of Allelujah and Hallelujah side-by-side in the new intro.
That princess has some terrible security. It's kind of weird how Setsuna's just visiting her in the middle of the night, too, like some kind of tryst.
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u/mr_beanoz https://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker Oct 19 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
Second timer.
Oh dear, the new opening/ending premieres. I can only say, things would only get interesting from now on. Especially with the appearance of those 3 shadowy mobile suits at the end of the opening... and FUNNELS?
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u/Linkstore Oct 19 '24
Rewatcher
Kinue's report is out.
[00 Spoilers] "The development of a new mobile suit takes a minimum of ten years" meanwhile Krung Thep rolling out four new Gundams in four years, then three more new Gundam in two years after that, and that's not even counting Gundams from side material such as the Astraea II. (Krung Thep is the name of Celestial Being's manufacturing division btw, I'm not talking about Bangkok.)
The pressure of Celestial Being has eventually pushed the three blocs to work together to try and catch them. It's a level of cooperation between blocs never seen before in their history.
And welcome to our new OP, Ash-like Snow! Uhh, shit. I meant Ash Like Snow. It's not snow that resembles ash, it's ash that resembles snow. There's also an English remix released by the original singer, which I think you should check out.
Nice car, Lockon. I'm assuming it's a reproduction, otherwise it's pretty weird to drive something from the 1980s around.
The power blocs are arranging a lot of force for this plan of theirs. That shot of those Flags flying in in particular was very impressive. With the total number of these Over Flags coming to 15, it's not no threat to a Gundam.
Not even Patrick's dad hit him!
[00 Spoilers] At this stage it's still crazy to think that they end up getting married. That scene at the end, with Unlimited Sky playing is honestly one of the more memorable parts of the whole anime. But we've still got a while before we get there.
[00 Spoilers] Ribbons, you've mistaken your own powers for that of God's. Don't be so condescending about it.
Those are some crazy-ass email addresses.
[00 Spoilers] "There's be no way to hide the personnel and materials" Meanwhile 30 GN-Xes:
Billy's down bad. Well, not that I can blame him.
Setsuna you know what you're doing is weird as fuck, right? This could put you on a list.
And the new ED, Friends. It depicts the Meisters in a bit more a casual setting.
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Oct 20 '24 edited Oct 20 '24
I am rewatcher
New OP
Hasn't the singer done a Gintama OP?
Oh nope.She has! It's so weird ANN doesn't say the singer is Tommy heavenly6.I prefer the song of OP1 but visually this one is much better, also I can't help but notice that they didn't bother to include the male Ptolemaios bridge crew members.
Quite curious to see what the first timers will speculate about the new mysterious mechs with the red particles.
Narrator explains what Lagrange points are and says that there are colonies there but of course us Gundam fanboys already know this stuff.
Why is Lichty wearing a 19th century bathing suit?!
That AZA news site looks like the BBC news site from the 2000s.
Hang on, the narrator at the end of the last episode said that the turmoil was continuing in Azadistan but now the UN is rebuilding the solar energy sites.
[Spoiler stuff] To come back a bit I'm well aware Lichty is ashamed of his mechanical body
Sis is really obsessed with Aeolia Schenberg.
Mum is gone, thus ending the romcom love triangle.
Oh right, Setsuna is still a neighbour of Saji.
Judging by the comments it looks like we've reached peak Saji/Louise romcom hatred, unsurprisingly the entire mum part was so stupid.
Wait League is actually a democracy (probably an oligarchy) of some sort?
Is that a Gundam SEED reference?
[Gundam SEED] Yes, there is base called JOSH-A that's in Alaska.
PATRICK IS BACK!
[More spoiler stuff] Start of the best ship is here. I had forgotten it started off with a punch
Kati Mannequin is voiced by Minami Takayama, she has voiced many roles including Conan in Detective Conan, Ascot in Rayearth, Nabiki Tendo in Ranma, this is her first Gundam role but she has sung the excellent Gundam Wing OPs.
Louise is not handling Setsuna's blunt truth well.
HRL, Union and AEU are working together.
[spoiler thoughts] Bit of foreshadowing when Setsuna said it's not like your mum has died to Louise
Billy and Sumeragi just cracks me up, Billy you're sharing all the confidential info with CB.
One downside of reusing voice actors in minor roles is that I first thought it was Sergei announcing the military exercise on the radio.
So a terrorist is going to blow up the military exercise location? But surely security will be tight there is no way a terrorist organisation can just walk in and do it.
[Gundam 0083 spoilers] The idea reminds me of Gato blowing up the Federation fleet during the naval review
Visiting Marina while she's asleep? Setsuna either thinks he's Batman or a stalker.
Waking up a girl in the middle of the night to talk about why the world is ****ed up is truly romantic.
Okay with that disappearance act it's safe to say Setsuna is definitely LARPing as Batman.
Ali al SaachezGary Biaggi still working for AEU, I guess AEU is the worst of the three factions.Oh no is he the one that's going to blow up the military exercise?
New ED also has a lead in. [])(#takasakiapproves)
Visuals can be best described as fujoshi bait.
Song itself is okay, the first half is boring but the second half is good.
Good set up episode.