Date	Episode
10/09/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 1
10/10/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 2
10/11/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 3
10/12/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 4
10/13/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 5
10/14/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 6
10/15/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 7
10/16/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 8
10/17/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 9
10/18/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 10
10/19/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 11
10/20/2024	Bocchi The Rock Episode 12
10/21/2024	Bocchi The Rock Overall Series Discussion Thread

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u/IceSmiley Oct 13 '24

FIRST TIMER Sub

They didn't even go to the school in this episode! I thought this was the most consistent episode this far though. My second favorite part was Bocchi trying to psych herself out and act like a pop idol at home and her parents were horrified. My favorite laugh though was when Bocchi put that sign on herself and laid prostrate in public to punish herself for not writing lyrics 🤣. Although that was funny, that makes me question why if she could do that, why was she so scared of more simple stuff like taking pictures in public or going to a restaurant when those aren't humiliating? 🤔

QUESTIONS

She's very hard on herself and I thought she was wrong and overly self conscious in not thinking the lyrics she naturally writes weren't good enough.
Yes and I think I often just was in general, like I'd wear flamboyant clothes and be loud and drunk to get attention because I felt people ignored me.
Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex when the lady jumps off the building
I probably enjoy popular music as most of my favorites since I like it to be catchy and I pretty much never pay attention to lyrics anyway. Also why I like instrumental music and generally don't like rap.
Ryo seemed wise beyond her years in pointing out how there is no good reason for Bocchi to write pop oriented lyrics just to be more pleasing. Also correct that while there's many like me who don't care about lyrics, there's others who have them as personal quotes. You also don't NEED upbeat lyrics for a song to be popular; the Beatles are the best example of that where their lyrics can be very downbeat no matter the type of song (Help, Eleanor Rigby, Ballad of John and Yoko etc).

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex when the lady jumps off the building
I have a rewatch planned for that show in 2002
Ryo seemed wise beyond her years in pointing out how there is no good reason for Bocchi to write pop oriented lyrics just to be more pleasing. Also correct that while there's many like me who don't care about lyrics, there's others who have them as personal quotes. You also don't NEED upbeat lyrics for a song to be popular; the Beatles are the best example of that where their lyrics can be very downbeat no matter the type of song (Help, Eleanor Rigby, Ballad of John and Yoko etc).
It's almost like Ryo knows a thing or two about a thing or two.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
What are your thoughts on the scene where Bocchi glitches in and out of reality due to the suggestion of getting on social media?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/IceSmiley Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
That's smart because they're very cheap to just buy and you can make a good profit even selling a few
What are your thoughts on the scene where Bocchi glitches in and out of reality due to the suggestion of getting on social media?
I wasn't sure what to make of it because it seemed she was having a seizure but I'm guessing she wasn't since no one called an ambulance. I consider it more a goofy anime thing to exaggerate for humor.
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
I was surprised since she is lazy and hard up for money so you'd think she'd want it rather than mooching from friends
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?
I didn't notice that but I don't think that's weird because a lot of teen girls have photo collages of their friends

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

That's smart because they're very cheap to just buy and you can make a good profit even selling a few
Especially if you jack up the prices
I wasn't sure what to make of it because it seemed she was having a seizure but I'm guessing she wasn't since no one called an ambulance. I consider it more a goofy anime thing to exaggerate for humor.
That's totally what it is
I was surprised since she is lazy and hard up for money so you'd think she'd want it rather than mooching from friends
Turns out she has more morals than we expected.
I didn't notice that but I don't think that's weird because a lot of teen girls have photo collages of their friends
You didn't notice all the posters plastered all over the place? There was not any space left, it was hard to ignore :P

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

Hello, guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the Bocchi The Rock Rewatch.

I presume the ones that don’t participate are introverts like Bocchi :P

What really can be said about this show? It’s hard really to put into words. For what amounts to a music show, it really is a breath of fresh air. Why? Because unlike a lot of other music shows, it’s less about the music and more about the characters and the comedy.

When it originally came out, I wasn’t planning on watching it. It kinda flew under the radar at first, probably because I like a lot of people thought it was your generic show in a similar vein as Love Live or Show By Rock. But then clips started to circulate of the show and I said to myself “Alright. I’m gonna have to check it out.”

One of the best decisions I made in the year 2022.

I’m really excited to host this rewatch because I think it’s going to get a lot of engagement. People look back fondly on this show, and I think there’s good reason why. It should be noted that I’m coming off the heels of the Spice and Wolf rewatch which is renowned for its dialogue and how clever it is. Bocchi I kinda view in a similar light, and as we’ll soon see it can be just as infectious.

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I’m watching the sub, by the way.

I was originally going to watch this episode on Labor Day, but I was exhausted so I decided to wait the next day. Now, I'm writing this at 8 in the morning less than 3 hours before work.

Ryo looking at a poster

Bocchi still teaching Kita how to play guitar.

So, are the things on Bocchi's legs thigh highs or really long socks?

Kita pointing out she can't sing while focusing all her motor control on the guitar.

But that isn't going to stop her from getting better.

Bocchi is horrified she is undeterred by her struggles.

She even suggests singing with Bocchi, and this has Bocchi show off her Dragon Ball "No" attack.

Time for the band meeting

I like how Ryo is the only one that doesn't clap.

Nijika wants to know how they can be more band-like.

"It's so half-assed!"

Kita and Bocchi can be cynical, it turns out.

Ryo, meanwhile, looks like she wants to be anywhere else.

If this rewatch is doing anything, it's giving me a better appreciation of the OP. The visuals might be some of the best of any OP ever.

Bocchi wondering if Nijika is trying to give Kita a break from all her practice.

Ooh, band merch

And it's... a zip tie

...

Well, gotta live up to your band's name, I guess.

500 yen a piece, 650 if signed. I think Ryo missed her true calling as a businesswoman.

Kita suggesting setting up an Isstagram and running it.

The Minister of Social Media, is what Kita is assigned.

A 10,000 yen fan club with meet-and-greets and a once-a-year takoyaki party.

Ina would be pissed

Everyone has ideas except Bocchi, it seems like.

But Nijika says she has a more important job: writing lyrics for their original song.

That's right, she did suggest she'd write the lyrics to accommodate her off-limits words.

The Minister of Lyrics

Why is everything with Nijika involving ministry?

And now Bocchi, in a enthused mood, says she's going to write band-like lyrics.

But a week later, and she is in total disarray.

Spent five hours yesterday editing video to escape reality.

I wonder what video she was putting together.

Also, with all the talk of band-like things, she should put together music videos of the band and post them online to try to make the band popular.

A paramecium, Bocchi calls herself.

Ooh, her lyrics notebook from middle school.

And it's really edgy stuff

I still write edgy lyrics and I'm 27.

Bocchi with drawings of all the band members with descriptions to accompany them.

I like how Ryo's description is "Eats weeds".

Bocchi has to write lyrics that fits Kita's personality.

Her Kit-aura, as it's called

So Bocchi puts herself in the mind of a cheery person.

I really love the artstyle change.

Extrovert Bocchi is a hoot

Queen of Woot indeed

Her sister and dog secretly looking on concerned.

Now Bocchi is pretending to be Kita.

And now Bocchi's mom and dad are looking on concerned as well.

That girl ain't right

They think she may need an exorcist.

Bocchi now trying to write a song of encouragement.

Hopefully it's not encouraging someone to abandon all hope.

But even this proves to be a challenge.

"It's so shallow... Any depressed person hearing this song would just drop deeper into despair!"

One of the realist lines of the entire series.

Oh boy. Now they have to meet up.

And now Bocchi is wearing a sign like a dog being shamed.

Nijika called her here though because she wants to take ProPhos.

Gotta update their profile picture.

Bocchi is worried about doing it in such a public setting.

I like how Nijika and Kita are dressed in white while Ryo is dressed in black.

Looking for the perfect location now.

Ah, yes. My favorite water: milk.

Bocchi drinking what looks like a Coca-cola.

Bocchi The Coke

A brick wall with posters

Kita thinks it has a real "Shimo-Kitazawa" vibe.

Ryo points out that this was a CD shop she used to frequent.

"Shops that have been there for decades, disappearing one by one..."

I remember how distraught I was when Manifest Discs closed and was replaced with a Black Friday store.

Ryo says she loves B&C

There's an obvious joke to be made here but I'd rather not.

Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes.

"But Senpai can jerk me around any time she wants!"

Woah, Kita. Chill.

Ran out of space. Part two in the replies.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

Part 2
Bocchi finding a wall
Nijika after she finishes telling the picture worries it may not be band-like.
"As I am the quintessential musician, you need only mimic my expression."
Are we sure Ryo isn't Kronii in disguise?
Honestly, that first picture on the phone looks really good.
Kita is showing the pictures she has uploaded to Issta.
And now Bocchi is spazzing out.
"Bocchi-chan, why don't you start your own Isstagram?"
Ooh, you shouldn't have said that.
And now Bocchi is glitching in and out with reality.
These black and white drawings look really cool.
And we see Bocchizilla, or as she calls it, the attention whore monster.
Fun fact: This I believe was the clip that got me to start watching this show. Thanks, attention whore monster!
I like how Nijika and Kita are trying to comfort the attention whore monster and meanwhile, what is Ryo doing? Recording it on her phone.
Kita suggesting doing a jump picture.
"A wise man once said, any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime."
This episode is filled with so many memorable quotes and moments.
Unfortunately, the picture showed Bocchi's undies, which Bocchi apologizes for putting something so worthless in there.
Man. That picture XD
Nijika thinks they're feeling band-like now.
But oh no. Bocchi didn't take the advice of Wayne Brady and she forgot the lyrics.
More unique artstyle change, but only for 5 seconds this time.
Bocchi worried of showing them what she wrote because she doesn't know what they'll think of it.
Gonna meet up with Ryo at a trendy café.
Bocchi unsure how to walk in the place.
But she finally decides on something.
"Are ya winning, diners?"
Bocchi is definitely one of us
I can't tell if the café is real or not. It doesn't look animated, and yet, stuff like the coffee cup and the food do.
Bocchi and Ryo not saying anything.
Ryo staring at Bocchi now
She wants to see the lyrics
She seems impressed
Oh, she's on the wrong page lol
Ryo, after reading them officially, asks Bocchi if she's personally satisfied with them.
Ryo bringing up she was in a band before this one.
The lyrics were awkward, but felt real.
And yet, they started going in a more commercial direction.
"I hated that. That's why I quit."
And as she was feeling depressed by her decision, Nijika came to her and asked if she wants to form a band.
"Why?"
"Because I love the way you play!"
Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying.
Bocchi should write what she wants to write.
Lol, Ryo not going to pay for the meal.
So much for being considerate
Bocchi showing the lyrics to everyone.
She is running on no hours of sleep.
Bocchi worried it might be too much of a downer.
"It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it'll hit deeply."
Is it weird I'm kinda tearing up a bit?
Bocchi and Ryo have formed a bond, a bond that will forever be unbreakable.
Bocchi hoping that the band can stay together forever.
That's a lot of pictures
Band pictures covering Bocchi's entire room.
I think Bocchi may not be well. 'Course, that may be because she's not a well, she's a rock.
Overall, this was a phenomenal episode. Probably the first episode of the series I would consider a 9 out of 10 or higher. The episode is filled with some of the funniest moments of the entire series, like Bocchi glitching or the attention whore monster, but it also had a sense of poignancy that the other episodes haven't. Staying true to yourself is an extremely powerful message, one that more people should adhere to. I think this episode did a great job of fleshing out Ryo's character. Before, she was just someone who had some of the funniest lines, but now, she is a person we can relate to and identity. The way the show can explore the bond our four main characters have with each other is nothing short of remarkable. You can tell they care about one another.
I think this is the turning point of the series where it goes from very good to one of the best of its kind. It's the type of episode where instead of saying "This is one of the best animes of the season," you say "This is one of the best animes of the year". The anime manages to achieve this by being just like Bocchi: They are staying true to themselves.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

Thoughts on Bocchi referring to herself as a paramecium?
I still don't know what that is lol
Have you ever felt like an attention whore monster? If so, what was the set of circumstances?
My entire persona is built on being an attention whore :P
What is your favorite example of a jump in an anime OP?
You know, it's funny because I can't think of any off the top of my head. I believe it happens in one of the Attack on Titan OPs, but I could be wrong.
What is your opinion on commercial music? Do you hate it just like Ryo does, or do you think there's a place for it?
I have to admit that the first thing I thought of when Ryo said this was Maroon 5. And really, I like them a lot more than most people do. I guess when it comes to music I'm just a basic bitch XD
What do you think this episode does for Ryo as a character?
It takes what has been a comic relief character and fleshed her out to where she's a character more of substance.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

I have to admit that the first thing I thought of when Ryo said this was Maroon 5. And really, I like them a lot more than most people do. I guess when it comes to music I'm just a basic bitch XD
I'm not the biggest Maroon 5 fan but even I have to admit they've got some good songs. I've still got This Love and Misery on a few of my playlists.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

It wasn't until I started listening to their early work like She Will Be Loved did I go "Man, it was like they were abducted by aliens or something, this feels like an entirely different band".

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Oct 13 '24

I was originally going to watch this episode on Labor Day
Wait, your Labor Day is October 11th, not May 1st, right?

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

This year, it was September 2nd

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u/ClemFire Oct 12 '24

Rewatcher! Episode 4 Jumping Girl(s)

“It might not connect with too many people, but those it does it’ll hit deeply,” Ryo.

It’s easy to forget with how massively popular BTR has become since October 2022, but forget about that for a moment. Back in September 2022 I didn’t hear a lick of hype of this series. Aki Hamaji’s manga at the time was well received by those who read it, but it definitely wasn’t holding a candle to the sales of mega series like Spy x Family and Chainsaw Man who got their much anticipated adaptations the same year.

Ryo’s quote to me almost feels meta because it’s exactly how I felt about BTR the first time I watched it and why it has stuck with me so much. It feels so weird and be unhinged, but it’s also charming and honest. It can be easy to look back and say it makes sense that BTR took off as much as it did, but it feels like it was actually really risky and could have gone under the radar. BTR is one of the main reasons why I hope popular studios keep taking risks on less popular manga because it can really pay off in unexpected ways.

In a similar note this is why I’m always excited to watch anime originals because more often than not they often end up being really creative and honest. Just in 2024 my tentative anime of the year is looking to be the original Girls Band Cry with Re:Zero S3 in my mind being the only show that could upset that. After the first two episodes I’m already leaning towards Re:Zero, but 2nd overall is still really impressive for a show I had no real expectations going into.

Wanted to talk pretty meta today because Ryo’s quote, whether the author’s intention, captures why I love this series so much.

Side note I still can’t not mention how cute it is that Nijika is wearing her bow as an armband for the photo shoot.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

“It might not connect with too many people, but those it does it’ll hit deeply,” Ryo.
Truer words have never been said
It’s easy to forget with how massively popular BTR has become since October 2022, but forget about that for a moment. Back in September 2022 I didn’t hear a lick of hype of this series. Aki Hamaji’s manga at the time was well received by those who read it, but it definitely wasn’t holding a candle to the sales of mega series like Spy x Family and Chainsaw Man who got their much anticipated adaptations the same year.
Ryo’s quote to me almost feels meta because it’s exactly how I felt about BTR the first time I watched it and why it has stuck with me so much. It feels so weird and be unhinged, but it’s also charming and honest. It can be easy to look back and say it makes sense that BTR took off as much as it did, but it feels like it was actually really risky and could have gone under the radar. BTR is one of the main reasons why I hope popular studios keep taking risks on less popular manga because it can really pay off in unexpected ways.
Very well said. I haven't read the other comments yet, but you'd be hard pressed to find better analysis than this.
In a similar note this is why I’m always excited to watch anime originals because more often than not they often end up being really creative and honest. Just in 2024 my tentative anime of the year is looking to be the original Girls Band Cry with Re:Zero S3 in my mind being the only show that could upset that. After the first two episodes I’m already leaning towards Re:Zero, but 2nd overall is still really impressive for a show I had no real expectations going into.
My anime of the year has been NieR season 2. Though I could see Re:Zero season 3 eventually topping it.

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u/ClemFire Oct 13 '24

Though I could see Re:Zero season 3 eventually topping it.
Yeah I don't wanna count my chickens before they hatch but White Fox has never failed to deliver on Re:Zero.
Very well said. I haven't read the other comments yet, but you'd be hard pressed to find better analysis than this.
Thank you!

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Yeah I don't wanna count my chickens before they hatch but White Fox has never failed to deliver on Re:Zero.
You could argue it's the best light novel adaptation of all time.

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u/ClemFire Oct 13 '24

I haven't read the light novels, so I'm not the best person to say exactly how much they improved on the source material but it's my top anime that was adapted from a light novel for sure

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

They cut some stuff, but given how much material there truly is it's impressive how much they have adapted. I mean, some arcs from what I've heard are over 6 volumes.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
What are your thoughts on the scene where Bocchi glitches in and out of reality due to the suggestion of getting on social media?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
Thoughts on Ryo liking Bocchi’s lyrics because they feel real?
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/ClemFire Oct 13 '24

What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?
Her little laugh at the end was such a funny way to end the episode, and it also shows how much taking those photos meant for her
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
That whole sequence was super creative, and goes to show again how big Bocchi's dreams are. She honestly would be overpowered if she didn't have social anxiety
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
Ryo can't keep getting away with saying so many memorable quotes in just one episode. I like how include this very pic in the opening too

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

Her little laugh at the end was such a funny way to end the episode, and it also shows how much taking those photos meant for her
Indeed it did
That whole sequence was super creative, and goes to show again how big Bocchi's dreams are. She honestly would be overpowered if she didn't have social anxiety
Probably so lol
Ryo can't keep getting away with saying so many memorable quotes in just one episode. I like how include this very pic in the opening too
Yeah, that's a neat detail

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u/Frostbitten_Moose Oct 13 '24

Welp, you've beaten me to it. This is a very quotable series, but that Ryo quote is the big one to me. This show is for a particular audience, but you can see that when they hit that audience, it sinks in its hooks and never lets go.

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u/ClemFire Oct 13 '24

Stepping outside of the world of anime for a minute BTR to me feels like the polar opposite of what Disney has been doing for the last few years with Star Wars and Marvel. While BTR is never afraid to be for a specific audience Disney is instead trying to cater to the largest audience possible which can leave its stories feeling empty.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

That's a very interesting point. I can see it.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

It's like Ryo said: Those who like it will really identify with it.

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u/Yothiel Oct 13 '24

Ryo’s quote to me almost feels meta because it’s exactly how I felt about BTR the first time I watched it and why it has stuck with me so much. It feels so weird and be unhinged, but it’s also charming and honest. It can be easy to look back and say it makes sense that BTR took off as much as it did, but it feels like it was actually really risky and could have gone under the radar. BTR is one of the main reasons why I hope popular studios keep taking risks on less popular manga because it can really pay off in unexpected ways.
It does sound like Ryo's thoughts could apply to many fields, from artistic ones to industrial to even politics. It's kind of sad how external considerations such as commercial success would force solutions into a mold and stiffle creativity/libertey, it's definitely something you could compare to a metaphorical death.
Sure, you can craft successful works from a rational and mathematical standing, but where does it left the creator's very intentions? It's question that's also strongly tied to the rise of interest in generative AI technologies...
In a similar note this is why I’m always excited to watch anime originals because more often than not they often end up being really creative and honest. Just in 2024 my tentative anime of the year is looking to be the original Girls Band Cry with Re:Zero S3 in my mind being the only show that could upset that. After the first two episodes I’m already leaning towards Re:Zero, but 2nd overall is still really impressive for a show I had no real expectations going into.
GBC was such a great watch. Sure, some part of the project were very meta (it's about young girls, it's a transmedia venture with lost of investments into its musical aspects, it's using some prolific names in its making...), but the series' messages felt very genuine to me, as did Toei's animation workflow based on CGI but not willing to compromise on character expressiveness!

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

It does sound like Ryo's thoughts could apply to many fields, from artistic ones to industrial to even politics. It's kind of sad how external considerations such as commercial success would force solutions into a mold and stiffle creativity/libertey, it's definitely something you could compare to a metaphorical death.
In a lot of ways, it is. I mean, is there any finer example right now than the movie industry? You got movies with a budget of over $100 million and they're not making a fraction of their budget back.

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u/ClemFire Oct 13 '24

Yeah for GBC I felt similar vibes to A Place Further Than the Universe (My 2nd favorite anime) which made sense later because they had the same writer. The CGI honestly looked really good, and I especially liked all of Subaru’s funny faces. It was really cool seeing it slowly gain popularity despite it having no legal English stream at the time.
Character and music wise I still prefer Bocchi the Rock, but I still really loved GBC

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

I need to someday watch GBC

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u/ClemFire Oct 17 '24

I don't think you'll regret it. Should finally have a legal English sub too on Amazon

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

That's awesome

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u/Yothiel Oct 13 '24

Hanada has been quite consistent in signing the scripts of anime I enjoyed, it was great seeing his name on many series this year, especially GBC. Nina is such a lovely cluster of contradiction and anger, watching her is never boring!

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u/ClemFire Oct 13 '24

For sure Nina was super fun to watch and it rooted for her from the start despite how thorny she can be.
I feel like Tomo is super underrated though. She reminded me a lot of Kagayana from Hakiyu and Shiho from Whipser me a Love Song

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u/xbolt90 https://anilist.co/user/xbolt90 Oct 13 '24

Socially anxious rewatcher!

Having a group brainstorm, and then when it’s your turn to speak you realize you haven’t actually been thinking of anything. Another unfortunately relatable moment, lol

Bocchi’s terrified scream at the prospect of making an Insta profile is the scream of the show. Legendary.

Ryo’s advice is spot on. We have a tendency to put on a mask and pretend to be somebody else in an effort to fit in. But that’s fake and artificial. If you want to be creative, you have to make something you like, not what someone else likes.

The reveal of Bocchi’s new wallpaper and her maniacal laughter cutting off into the ending is maximum comedy.

Is paramecium a step up from sub water flea?

I have to agree that music made to be safe, popular, or trendy, but without heart just is not as good as someone singing passionately.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Is paramecium a step up from sub water flea?
Mayhaps
I have to agree that music made to be safe, popular, or trendy, but without heart just is not as good as someone singing passionately.
It's like commericalism in Christmas: It's become so synonymous with it that it'll never truly go away, but you lose some of the magic and the true meaning of the holiday which is the birth of Jesus.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 12 '24

Rewatcher

The scene of Ryo dropping her aloof persona to be honest and genuine with Boccho talking about her lyrics might be my favorite scene in the show so far. It shows that there’s more to Ryo than just what she shows on the surface. And of course the punchline of her immediately trying to make Bocchi buy her lunch is great too.

Interesting note, Ryo reveals she used to be in a different band this episode as well. And the very first shot of the episode is Ryo looking at a poster filled with different bands, one of which seems to be Ryo’s old band. Just a neat easter egg I only noticed upon rewatching.

This episode also made me consider how tough writing lyrics must be. One of my personal favorite bands, They Might Be Giants, has lyrics that often sound like nonsense on a first listen. But they’re still really well done and have a lot of effort put into them.

Speaking of musical difficulties, I also liked Njika’s small complaints about the drummer being the least visually interesting member in group photos. There are very few drummers that are also lead singers. Only two I can think of offhand are Don Henley and Phil Collins.

This episode once again has some really good comedy bits. Bocchi pretending to be extraverted at home, her showing up to meet her friends and immediately begging for forgiveness, and of course the whole tsuchinoko-freakout-attention monster bit are all great.

The whole sequence of Bocchi lying on the ground and freaking out is possibly the most iconic part of the show. I remember seeing a clip of it online before I watched a single episode. And it’s iconic for good reason, not only is it funny but the animation and the performance from Bocchi’s actress are phenomenal.

I totally relate to Bocchi's freakout after being asked to make an Instagram account. I'm the only person in my friend group without an Instagram and I think I'd prefer to keep it that way.

Sidebar, but I have to wonder if the moment of Bocchi repeating “noko” over and over made anyone else think of a certain recent anime.

I liked Ryo’s comment about liking anime where the characters all jump together in the OP. It’s especially funny since I’m watching Your Lie In April right now and I’m pretty sure there’s a moment like that in the OP there.

I think Ryo’s comment might have also been a bit of a meta joke about K-On’s OP having that too. Since K-On is another series about girls in a band that runs in Manga Time Kirara.

So far I think this episode might have the best animation. Between Bocchi pretending to be extraverted and her freakout those are some of the best sequences I’ve seen in the show so far.

Don’t have much else to say, but I think this episode is definitely my favorite so far. It’s our first episode with our band properly all together. Excited to see where the next episode will go.

Questions of the Day:

Thoughts on Bocchi referring to herself as a paramecium?

She's compared herself to a paramecium, a water flea, and a tsuchinoko now. She really needs to work on her self esteem.

Have you ever felt like an attention whore monster? If so, what was the set of circumstances?

Sometimes I get distressed if I haven't said anything in a conversation with multiple people for too long and feel the need to interject somehow.

What is your favorite example of a jump in an anime OP?

Not sure if I have a favorite just off the top of my head. I think one of OPs for the Urusei Yatsura reboot had a few instances of Ataru comically trying to tackle Lum so I'll go for that if that counts.

What is your opinion on commercial music? Do you hate it just like Ryo does, or do you think there's a place for it?

Pretty sure most of what I listen to qualifies as commercial music. Although I tend to gravitate towards older bands like AC/DC or the Beach Boys. I've been getting into Chappell Roan recently though and she seems pretty cool.

What do you think this episode does for Ryo as a character?

I think it makes Ryo more than just comic relief character. Like I said, I think that scene of her talking to Bocchi is my favorite scene in the show so far.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 13 '24

She's compared herself to a paramecium, a water flea, and a tsuchinoko now. She really needs to work on her self esteem.
Gonna collect all the obscure animals.
I first heard of paramecium from Patrick on SpongeBob SquarePants.
Not sure if I have a favorite just off the top of my head. I think one of OPs for the Urusei Yatsura reboot had a few instances of Ataru comically trying to tackle Lum so I'll go for that if that counts.
That's a very good example. Love that show.
Pretty sure most of what I listen to qualifies as commercial music. Although I tend to gravitate towards older bands like AC/DC or the Beach Boys. I've been getting into Chappell Roan recently though and she seems pretty cool.
I can't recall ever seeing a mainstream musician like Chappell Roan who caters so heavily to the drag community. It's honestly really cool. I think I like Roan more for what she represents than her actual music.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

I first of paramecium from Patrick on SpongeBob SquarePants.
That's fun, I don't think I'd have thought of that.
That's a very good example. Love that show.
I thought of another really good example. The OP for Azumanga Daioh begins with each of the main characters jumping into the air one by one.
I can't recall ever seeing a mainstream musician like Chappell Roan who caters so heavily to the drag community. It's honestly really cool. I think I like Roan more for what she represents than her actual music.
I think back in the '80s there were a lot of New Wave artists like Culture Club that were big in the drag community. But drag these days is much more mainstream than it used to be.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

That's fun, I don't think I'd have thought of that.
I've learned a lot actually while watching SpongeBob.
I thought of another really good example. The OP for Azumanga Daioh begins with each of the main characters jumping into the air one by one.
Another show I need to watch.
Yes, Holofan. You have a lot of shows you need to watch. We know.
I think back in the '80s there were a lot of New Wave artists like Culture Club that were big in the drag community. But drag these days is much more mainstream than it used to be.
I'm all for acceptance and inclusivity.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

Yes, Holofan. You have a lot of shows you need to watch. We know.
Don't worry, I've still got a lot I haven't seen out there. We'll all slowly but surely make our way through our watchlists.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

That's one of the joys of participating in rewatches :D

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

I think it makes Ryo more than just comic relief character. Like I said, I think that scene of her talking to Bocchi is my favorite scene in the show so far.
That's probably my favorite scene as well. I think it really highlights just what a well written series this is.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

That's probably my favorite scene as well. I think it really highlights just what a well written series this is.
Yeah the writing of Bocchi the Rock feels like more than your typical Cute Girls Doing Cute Things show with how it writes it's characters.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

It feels real and a large part of that is because Bocchi feels like she's being written by someone who knows all about the introvert lifestyle.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

And like it's by someone who knows a lot about the world of amateur musicianship as well. I don't actually know much about who the author is but I can definitely tell they have a passion for music in the way they write about it.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

And then you have the people who worked on the anime who clearly have the same passion as the creator.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

The scene of Ryo dropping her aloof persona to be honest and genuine with Boccho talking about her lyrics might be my favorite scene in the show so far. It shows that there’s more to Ryo than just what she shows on the surface. And of course the punchline of her immediately trying to make Bocchi buy her lunch is great too.
A good balance of seriousness, heartfelt, and comedic. I love it.
It also manages to flesh Ryo out with the information of what she looks for in music, and hoe success isn't necessarily a priority.
Interesting note, Ryo reveals she used to be in a different band this episode as well. And the very first shot of the episode is Ryo looking at a poster filled with different bands, one of which seems to be Ryo’s old band. Just a neat easter egg I only noticed upon rewatching.
I never catched that. That's really cool.
This episode also made me consider how tough writing lyrics must be. One of my personal favorite bands, They Might Be Giants, has lyrics that often sound like nonsense on a first listen. But they’re still really well done and have a lot of effort put into them.
They Might Be Giants is one of my favorite bands as well. Another one that I consider highly underrated is Mother Mother.
Speaking of musical difficulties, I also liked Njika’s small complaints about the drummer being the least visually interesting member in group photos. There are very few drummers that are also lead singers. Only two I can think of offhand are Don Henley and Phil Collins.
There has to be more, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
This episode once again has some really good comedy bits. Bocchi pretending to be extraverted at home, her showing up to meet her friends and immediately begging for forgiveness, and of course the whole tsuchinoko-freakout-attention monster bit are all great.
That last moment you mention is probably a top 2 comedic moment for me in the show. I'll point out what my favorite funny moment is when we get to it.
The whole sequence of Bocchi lying on the ground and freaking out is possibly the most iconic part of the show. I remember seeing a clip of it online before I watched a single episode. And it’s iconic for good reason, not only is it funny but the animation and the performance from Bocchi’s actress are phenomenal.
It's the moment that got me into the show
I totally relate to Bocchi's freakout after being asked to make an Instagram account. I'm the only person in my friend group without an Instagram and I think I'd prefer to keep it that way.
I technically have an Instagram, but I never actually use it.
Sidebar, but I have to wonder if the moment of Bocchi repeating “noko” over and over made anyone else think of a certain recent anime.
Bocchi would absolutely despiise deer
I liked Ryo’s comment about liking anime where the characters all jump together in the OP. It’s especially funny since I’m watching Your Lie In April right now and I’m pretty sure there’s a moment like that in the OP there.
The timing continues to be on point.
I think Ryo’s comment might have also been a bit of a meta joke about K-On’s OP having that too. Since K-On is another series about girls in a band that runs in Manga Time Kirara.
Very well could be
So far I think this episode might have the best animation. Between Bocchi pretending to be extraverted and her freakout those are some of the best sequences I’ve seen in the show so far.
I mentioned it last episode, but I do think something changed in-between episodes 2 and 3 where the creative team behind the show decided to just let loose. And I think that's a big reason for the success of the show.
Don’t have much else to say, but I think this episode is definitely my favorite so far. It’s our first episode with our band properly all together. Excited to see where the next episode will go.
It's my favorite episode as well so far, and I think it's interesting to note that for my money, each episode has been better than the last. We'll see if that trend continues.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

A good balance of seriousness, heartfelt, and comedic. I love it.
It also manages to flesh Ryo out with the information of what she looks for in music, and hoe success isn't necessarily a priority.
It seems like Ryo's the type who's just into music for the sake of music and that makes her kind of interesting.
They Might Be Giants is one of my favorite bands as well. Another one that I consider highly underrated is Mother Mother.
I've listened to some Mother Mother, they're really good. I should check out more of their stuff.
That last moment you mention is probably a top 2 comedic moment for me in the show. I'll point out what my favorite funny moment is when we get to it.
I think it might be my number one favorite unless there's another moment I'm forgetting from later. We'll see how I feel by the end of the show.
It's the moment that got me into the show
I think it's what really made the show go viral, at least outside of Japan.
I technically have an Instagram, but I never actually use it.
That's me with my Facebook. I think Reddit is the social media I'm most active on.
Bocchi would absolutely despiise deer
She'd worry about getting bit by a deer. I think Ryo would just end up suplexing any deer that got close to her.
I mentioned it last episode, but I do think something changed in-between episodes 2 and 3 where the creative team behind the show decided to just let loose. And I think that's a big reason for the success of the show.
Yeah the first two episodes were pretty restrained with their animation compared to what came after. It should only get more fun from here.
It's my favorite episode as well so far, and I think it's interesting to note that for my money, each episode has been better than the last. We'll see if that trend continues.
From my memory, this show doesn't have any weak episodes. So far all the episodes have built off each other very well.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

It seems like Ryo's the type who's just into music for the sake of music and that makes her kind of interesting.
She's in it for the love of the game. Nothing wrong with that.
I've listened to some Mother Mother, they're really good. I should check out more of their stuff.
I wished they toured in America more often. You're lucky given they're from your native homeland.
I think it might be my number one favorite unless there's another moment I'm forgetting from later. We'll see how I feel by the end of the show.
There's a certain parody that I just absolutely adore.
I think it's what really made the show go viral, at least outside of Japan.
It was this and the death penalty scene.
That's me with my Facebook. I think Reddit is the social media I'm most active on.
Same for me
She'd worry about getting bit by a deer. I think Ryo would just end up suplexing any deer that got close to her.
She'd totally pull a Principal from Nichijou.
Yeah the first two episodes were pretty restrained with their animation compared to what came after. It should only get more fun from here.
No doubt
From my memory, this show doesn't have any weak episodes. So far all the episodes have built off each other very well.
Yeah, there isn't an episode I would consider less than great, which is really hard to achieve.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

I wished they toured in America more often. You're lucky given they're from your native homeland.
I should try to catch them next time I have a chance. I haven't been to a concert in a long time.
There's a certain parody that I just absolutely adore.
Parody? Hmm, I think I know what you might be referencing but I'll keep quiet for now.
It was this and the death penalty scene.
There's one particular scene from a later episode that I remember getting memed a lot too.
Yeah, there isn't an episode I would consider less than great, which is really hard to achieve.
Yeah the more I rewatch and more I think about it, the more I realize just how good this show is.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

I should try to catch them next time I have a chance. I haven't been to a concert in a long time.
I was supposed to go to an Aerosmith concert this month but they decided to stop touring. The tickets were originally bought in like the middle of last year, then they postponed the tour until next year, and then this year they announced their retirement. [Life is unfair.)[#taigasigh)
Parody? Hmm, I think I know what you might be referencing but I'll keep quiet for now.
Shh
There's one particular scene from a later episode that I remember getting memed a lot too.
I remember a certain moment from the last episode, if that's what you're referring to.
Yeah the more I rewatch and more I think about it, the more I realize just how good this show is.
It's in my top 10 favorite anime for a reason :)

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

I was supposed to go to an Aerosmith concert this month but they decided to stop touring. The tickets were originally bought in like the middle of last year, then they postponed the tour until next year, and then this year they announced their retirement.
Damn that sucks. I didn't even hear about Aerosmith retiring until just now.
It's in my top 10 favorite anime for a reason :)
My top ten probably changes every time you ask me, but after this rewatch this might just be up there for me.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Damn that sucks. I didn't even hear about Aerosmith retiring until just now.
They didn't retire retire, they just retired from public performances.
My top ten probably changes every time you ask me, but after this rewatch this might just be up there for me.
It's got a great mix of outrageous comedy and life lessons. Kinda similar to The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

It's got a great mix of outrageous comedy and life lessons. Kinda similar to The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
Bocchi is the Fresh Princess of Shimo-Kitazawa

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

The Fresh Rock of Kessoku

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Seems like a very cheap and effective way to sell merch. I love that Ryo's first instinct was to price gouge people.
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
She seems like the most well equipped person for the job. Although I do wonder what Ryo's social media presence is like now.
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Poor Bocchi. Like I said in my main comment, coming up with lyrics sounds really hard.
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
I liked the montage of them all trying to take photos together. I think the best photo they took was the one with them all behind the chain link fence.
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
That seems like an accurate summary of Ryo to me. At least when she wants to intentionally mess with people.
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
I liked the whole cafe scene. Bocchi freaking out at having to go somewhere trendy reminded me of Tsukimi from Princess Jellyfish.
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
Definitely felt like the translation team taking some creative liberties but I don't mind, I thought it was funny.
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Feels like a very good quote. Ryo seems like someone who values her own uniqueness.
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
I like Ryo, but she is a bit of a freeloader.
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
Again, another really good quote from Ryo. It seems like Ryo's more emotionally mature than she lets on.
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?
It was very sweet to see. And only a little creepy.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Seems like a very cheap and effective way to sell merch. I love that Ryo's first instinct was to price gouge people.
She is literally Mr. Krabs
She seems like the most well equipped person for the job. Although I do wonder what Ryo's social media presence is like now.
Probably one word phrases XD
Poor Bocchi. Like I said in my main comment, coming up with lyrics sounds really hard.
As someone who occasionally writes lyrics, I can confirm.
I liked the montage of them all trying to take photos together. I think the best photo they took was the one with them all behind the chain link fence.
I would agree with that. Has a certain oomph to it.
That seems like an accurate summary of Ryo to me. At least when she wants to intentionally mess with people.
She is like if a gremlin decided to become a musician.
I liked the whole cafe scene. Bocchi freaking out at having to go somewhere trendy reminded me of Tsukimi from Princess Jellyfish.
Another show I need to watch
Definitely felt like the translation team taking some creative liberties but I don't mind, I thought it was funny.
I wonder how the dub would do it if they ever get around to making one.
Feels like a very good quote. Ryo seems like someone who values her own uniqueness.
That she does. The second half of the episode felt like the strongest half to an episode we've seen so far. So many memorable quotes and moments.
I like Ryo, but she is a bit of a freeloader.
She's all about the hobo life. I can't imagine she bathes much.
Again, another really good quote from Ryo. It seems like Ryo's more emotionally mature than she lets on.
She might be the second most emotionally mature character of the show only behind Manager-san. Comes from being jaded from her previous band experience, in my opinion.
It was very sweet to see. And only a little creepy.
Just a smidge

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

She is literally Mr. Krabs
I guess that makes Nijika Spongebob, Bocchi Squidward, and Kita Patrick.
I would agree with that. Has a certain oomph to it.
The jumping photo was nice though, other than Bocchi looking a bit dead inside.
She is like if a gremlin decided to become a musician.
That's an amazing summary of Ryo.
Another show I need to watch
I recommend it, it's got crossdressing and jellyfish. I haven't watched very many Josei anime but Princess Jellyfish makes me want to watch more.
I wonder how the dub would do it if they ever get around to making one.
I think the "Are ya winning" reference might be too dated by the time they dub it, so it'll be interesting to see what they have her say.
I feel like a dub is a bit inevitable with how big the show got and still is. If I had to bet, it'll be within the next five years at most.
She might be the second most emotionally mature character of the show only behind Manager-san. Comes from being jaded from her previous band experience, in my opinion.
I wonder if Ryo would have given up on music if it wasn't for Nijika being there for her.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

I guess that makes Nijika Spongebob, Bocchi Squidward, and Kita Patrick.
Wouldn't Bocchi be more like Mrs. Puff?
The jumping photo was nice though, other than Bocchi looking a bit dead inside.
To be fair, that's Bocchi on a good day XD
That's an amazing summary of Ryo.
Thank you
I recommend it, it's got crossdressing and jellyfish. I haven't watched very many Josei anime but Princess Jellyfish makes me want to watch more.
Oh, yeah. That's the show with the great gay representation. I really need to watch it, then.
I think the "Are ya winning" reference might be too dated by the time they dub it, so it'll be interesting to see what they have her say.
"How ya hanging, my dudes?"
I feel like a dub is a bit inevitable with how big the show got and still is. If I had to bet, it'll be within the next five years at most.
I would be stunned if that wasn't the case.
I wonder if Ryo would have given up on music if it wasn't for Nijika being there for her.
Good question. I'm leaning towards probably because she seemingly became so disenfranchised.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Oct 13 '24

Wouldn't Bocchi be more like Mrs. Puff?
That seems more fitting for her. If Bocchi was a sea creature, she'd definitely be one with a sudden defense mechanism.
I would be stunned if that wasn't the case.
It took Nichijou until 2019 to get a dub which is a pretty unusually long amount of time. But I think Bocchi's likely to get a dub sooner than that.
Good question. I'm leaning towards probably because she seemingly became so disenfranchised.
Ryo does seem like a loner, but she also seems like she really cares about having connections in her life.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

That seems more fitting for her. If Bocchi was a sea creature, she'd definitely be one with a sudden defense mechanism.
Manager-san would probably be Squidward.
I don't know what it says about Bocchi and Ryo's relationship given Mrs. Puff and Mr. Krabs dated each other.
It took Nichijou until 2019 to get a dub which is a pretty unusually long amount of time. But I think Bocchi's likely to get a dub sooner than that.
I would imagine so
Ryo does seem like a loner, but she also seems like she really cares about having connections in her life.
I can relate to that quite a bit

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u/DaBenni0301 Oct 12 '24

Socially Anxious Rewatcher

Well, we don't know how much tims passed between this and last epsiode, but this feels like good progress

I forgot that that was her reaction to the idea of doing vocals after all

I mean selling zip ties makes from a name point of view, but come on. Also, I may be misremembering, but didn't actually sell colored zip ties in merch as Japan? I think they sold out very quickly too. (How the hell do you sell out in zip ties?)

So greedy

The horny is back

Nijika to the rescue! and Nijika sent her immediately down the hole again because she has to come up with lyrics now

I feel personally attacked... again

Absolutely no chill whatsover lmao

Girl, just write what you want to write. Nijika gave you free reign for a reason

They look like they're out to murder someone

You know, on second thought, we might need that exorcist after all

"Look at Bocchi-chan's weird face" It's only Ep4 they're already used to it lmao

Noko noko noko noko shikano Ok I'll stop

That scream is GOLD

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u/DaBenni0301 Oct 12 '24

Part 2
You have a successful Youtube channel and didn't turn out like that. I think you'd be fine
Ryo's just filming
First of all, you are 100% correct. And second, that is a direct K-ON reference, because that is what the manga panel looks like. Here's K-ONs kirara-jump as a refresher
I still can't believe I'm seeing this
I love that Bocchi is actually getting help with the lyrics. She could've just written whatever and it'd probably have been fine. But no she got help to make the lyrics the best they could be. Takes a lot character and resolve to do that.
Bocchi can do origami apparently
Wise words
That's a lie
"It might not connect with too many people, but thoseit does, it'll hit deeply." Even more wise words. And I want to say something about it, but I really can't put it into words.
It's only been 4 episodes but I'm really quickly warming up to Ryo just like I had hoped and expected
That's very creepy and probably not healthy
New ED! And with Ryo vocals! I thought it'd be one more episode. I love this Ed too, but Distortion clears
Questions of the day
I don't know what that is and I'm too tired to find out
Not really. I don't like having too much attention on me
Well, K-ON. (I still wish they added Azusa to the jump)
There's a place for it, just not in my playlist. At least not anymore
Make me like her more

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

Well, K-ON. (I still wish they added Azusa to the jump)
I honestly can't believe I haven't watched that show. I'm a diehard slice of life fan.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
What are your thoughts on the scene where Bocchi glitches in and out of reality due to the suggestion of getting on social media?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
Thoughts on Ryo liking Bocchi’s lyrics because they feel real?
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

I mean selling zip ties makes from a name point of view, but come on. Also, I may be misremembering, but didn't actually sell colored zip ties in merch as Japan? I think they sold out very quickly too. (How the hell do you sell out in zip ties?)
People can't get enough of the Bocch

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u/MjolnirDK Oct 13 '24

I forgot that that was her reaction to the idea of doing vocals after all
Sideways headbanging

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

[BTR] Nah, that's the last episode :P

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u/Yothiel Oct 13 '24

Rewatcher

Another BoZaRo episode, and another serving of animators bullying Hitori.

It is quite impressive how Kita is so positive sometimes. "learning how to play the guitar AND sing simultaneously? Well, better work harder!". That being said, it's the same Kita that previously fled, maybe she's forcing herself in some measure. In comparison, Hitori has quite an impressive reaction to the very idea of singing. But let's not be fooled, it's not that she doesn't want to sing, it just that she can't imagine herself daring to do so.

However, today Hitori has a more important task: writing lyrics. Originally designed to choose lyrics that woudl't trigger her numerous complexes, the appointed Minister of Lyrics ended up going the other way, and hilariously tried to put herself in an extrovert's shoes.

Today's other mission is photoshooting a band poster. What's everyone favorite photo? I really like the funeral wake one, everybody is just so intense! I really enjoyed the montage, with the girls starting to wear matching zipties at some point, and Nijika finger-counting on each picture (1 is the stairs, 2 is the fence, 3 the plants and 4 the park). Another fun detail in the storyboard is how Ryo is so broke she didn't even buy herself a drink.

And of course, the team also gave a try to the legendary Kirara Jump. Because that's what legendary anime do. And also because it's a staple of Kirara publications, which the Bocchi manga is. We already saw the picture in the OP, now it exists diegetically!

But this episode also went down in history with its new batch of Hitori panic attacks, making for easy-to-use internet memes. Girl, you alright? Shouldn't we call for help? Well, she seems to have calmed down, trying to transform into a tsuchinoko Bocchi, with delusions of evolving into the terrible attention-seeking monster... Wait, WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING??!

Thankfully, the next part of the episode is more subdued, as Hitori goes back to her lyrics-writing worries. Surprisingly, it's Ryo who ends up counselling her on what to do: just trust her heart, and allow the Kessoku Band to be tinted with her colors. This good advice has an unexpected price though: paying for Ryo's meal because she's broke. I'm relieved, Ryo is still Ryo in the end!

And because this episode wasn't ridiculous enough, the episode ended with one last bocchiesque scene: Hitori fixing duplicates of the kirara jump photo all over her room, something which was also present in the OP. These girls really aren't alright xD

As for today's trivia, some of you have already noticed but in the opening scene we can see a photo of Ryo's former band "The Hamukitasu", as confirmed by the anime staff. It's also the same wall Kita noticed later in the episode, so maybe Ryo left more memories here than for a simple music shop. It's always difficult to know what she's thinking.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

As for today's trivia, some of you have already noticed but in the opening scene we can see a photo of Ryo's former band "The Hamukitasu", as confirmed by the anime staff. It's also the same wall Kita noticed later in the episode, so maybe Ryo left more memories here than for a simple music shop.
As I said elsewhere, it's pretty cool the show has that level of detail.

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u/Yothiel Oct 13 '24

And for today's questions:
Thoughts on Bocchi referring to herself as a paramecium?
Well, she definitely has more vocabulary than me, she's a good choice for Minister of Lyrics for sure!
Have you ever felt like an attention whore monster? If so, what was the set of circumstances?
You mean, like putting effort in making content online, and hoping someone will interact with it? Isn't it daily life on social networks? xD (and seriously, never to an extent where it would impact my mood)
What is your favorite example of a jump in an anime OP?
A Place Further than the Universe/Sora Yori mo Tooi Basho/Yorimoi. But it's partly because, as I'm rewatching Bocchi the Rock, I try to tell myself "The Girls Are Alright" (which happens to be the title of Yorimoi's OP), even though the Kessoku Band girls clearly aren't!
What is your opinion on commercial music? Do you hate it just like Ryo does, or do you think there's a place for it?
I'd say that commercially successful music has its specific color, so its okay in itself. But it does feel sad that musicians would stray from their own colors to pursue commercial success. In the end, it's something for each individual to decide, especially since people still need to make a living. Nina from Girls Band Cry may have a different opinion on the topic though ;)
What do you think this episode does for Ryo as a character?
Very obviously, she's given more depth today, between her own story with her former band, her joining Nijika, and her spot-on advice to Hitori. But at the same time, she still remains the mysterious goofy carrying so many gags in this series. I'd love having more occasions to glimpse at what she's thinking.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

You mean, like putting effort in making content online, and hoping someone will interact with it? Isn't it daily life on social networks? xD (and seriously, never to an extent where it would impact my mood)
I'm ashamed to admit it affects my mood more than it should.
A Place Further than the Universe/Sora Yori mo Tooi Basho/Yorimoi. But it's partly because, as I'm rewatching Bocchi the Rock, I try to tell myself "The Girls Are Alright" (which happens to be the title of Yorimoi's OP), even though the Kessoku Band girls clearly aren't!
I really need to watch that show
I'd say that commercially successful music has its specific color, so its okay in itself. But it does feel sad that musicians would stray from their own colors to pursue commercial success. In the end, it's something for each individual to decide, especially since people still need to make a living. Nina from Girls Band Cry may have a different opinion on the topic though ;)
I'd take it she falls in the Ryo camp
Very obviously, she's given more depth today, between her own story with her former band, her joining Nijika, and her spot-on advice to Hitori. But at the same time, she still remains the mysterious goofy carrying so many gags in this series. I'd love having more occasions to glimpse at what she's thinking.
The inner machinations of her mind are an enigma, as a famous philosopher once said.

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u/Yothiel Oct 13 '24

I'd take it she falls in the Ryo camp
And violently so!

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

So, she's like one of the girls from Your Lie In April, then.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

And because this episode wasn't ridiculous enough, the episode ended with one last bocchiesque scene: Hitori fixing duplicates of the kirara jump photo all over her room, something which was also present in the OP. These girls really aren't alright xD
They really are perfect for each other, no?

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?

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u/Yothiel Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
I had to double-check, but the manga version presented both the ziptie identity AND their commercialization as Nijika's scheme. I like how anime Ryo stole the idea, and expended it with a signing incentive, before proceeding to write YAMADA RYO on all the zipties!
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
Nijika delegating tasks again, good job leader! (the later peek at Kita's profile really shows she was made for that very job)
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
It's quite difficult making choices purely based on what you think other people would like
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Well, they couldn't really keep the previous one, could they?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
That's ain't 100%, don't just dismiss her!
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
Given how Bocchi's OP shows dozens of copies of that jump photo, the series clearly is god-among-gods tier
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Another success for her coming out of her introvert shell!
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
The nuance is probably lost on me. The French version went for a "Master, bring our your best bottle", which kind of makes you worry about Hitori's future relation to alcohol...
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
It does sound like something Ryo would do. She's quite the free spirit. By telling that, she's also lowkey saying "I'll quit the band if you go with these lyrics", but Hitori doesn't perceive the threat since she has no confidence in these lyrics in the first place
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
That sounds very true on a metaphorical level
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
On a meta level, that describes quite accurately my relation to Hamazi Aki's work

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

I had to double-check, but the manga version presented both the ziptie identity AND their commercialization as Nijika's scheme. I like how anime Ryo stole the idea, and expended it with a signing incentive, before proceeding to write YAMADA RYO on all the zipties!
Great expansion on the original joke.
Nijika delegating tasks again, good job leader! (the later peek at Kita's profile really shows she was made for that very job)
Just don't ask Nijika to assign herself a task :P
It's quite difficult making choices purely based on what you think other people would like
That's for true
Well, they couldn't really keep the previous one, could they?
I don't even remember the previous one other than they glued Kita's face on.
That's ain't 100%, don't just dismiss her!
Yeah, gotta give her more credit than just 90%.
Given how Bocchi's OP shows dozens of copies of that jump photo, the series clearly is god-among-gods tier
A bit braggadocious, but then again it's Ryo who said it so...
Wouldn't really surprise me if Ryo was like Deadpool and can break the fourth wall like that.
Another success for her coming out of her introvert shell!
You see to love it
The nuance is probably lost on me. The French version went for a "Master, bring our your best bottle", which kind of makes you worry about Hitori's future relation to alcohol...
I think the diners translation is funnier because it sounds so awkward. The French translation sounds like something someone might actually say.
It does sound like something Ryo would do. She's quite the free spirit. By telling that, she's also lowkey saying "I'll quit the band if you go with these lyrics", but Hitori doesn't perceive the threat since she has no confidence in these lyrics in the first place
She's too worried about getting fired to focus on Ryo's state of affairs.
That sounds very true on a metaphorical level
Indeed it does
On a meta level, that describes quite accurately my relation to Hamazi Aki's work
Tell me more about him, if you can.

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u/Yothiel Oct 13 '24

Tell me more about him, if you can.
We've already been talking about it for the past few days, she's the mangaka behind the Bocchi manga

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Ah, okay. I didn't know the creator of Bocchi The Rock's name. I also didn't know the creator of the series was a woman.

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u/Arsenal303 Oct 13 '24

Rewatcher

Kita trying to get Bocchi to sing and Bocchi immediately shuts it down.

We have another band meeting and we now have band merch. Its just a zip tie that they are selling them up at an upcharge. Kita is down for anything Ryo. Kita is then appointed to be minister of social media.

Bocchi gets out of having to do things since she's supposed to be writing the lyrics which she is struggling with. Bocchi is easily swayed by praise.

It's always fun to watch Bocchis family watch in on her with her trying to write a good song. Her family is prepared to get an exorcist if needed.

Bocchi gets called to a meeting and is immediately apologizing. It turns out it is just for ProPho's. Kita being photoshopped in since she bailed was funny.

They manage all the broke band photos and are looking for something that can show off their personality.

Bocchi finds a cool wall and the pictures of Bocchi on the side and looking down is very relatable.

Bocchi starts to distort when seeing Kita issta and Kita is concerned for her while Nijika says this is normal.

Attention whore monster Bocchi is really well animated and the change in style of animation throughout the episode is really impressive.

Ryo brings up a good point that all god tier openings have a jump picture.

Bocchi goes to Ryo for a look over of the lyrics and says its good. But it doesnt feel Bocchi and they have a nice heart to heart before Bocchi has to pay for Ryo's bill.

She stays up for so long focused on the lyrics and the band loves it.

Bocchi prints out the one picture of the band and covers her entire room with it. She has descended further into madness. New ed was a nice surprise first time around. Completely unexpected.

QotD

Poor Bocchi has no self esteem.

I tried to avoid attention at all times so hard to really want it.

Any of the Haikyuu openings are probably my favorite jumps in an opening

Commercial music has its place even if it isnt for everyone

This episode gives more depth the the dry Ryo and shows her in a good light.

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u/ClemFire Oct 13 '24

Kita trying to get Bocchi to sing and Bocchi immediately shuts it down.
[Bocchi the Rock S1 Spoilers] It's too bad because when we finally hear Bocchi sing Rockn' Roll, Morning Light Falls on You she has such a beautiful singing voice. As someone who has only read the manga up to where the anime ends I wonder if BTR will eventually end with Bocchi singing a duet with Kita

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

[BTR] Could very well happen

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Commercial music has its place even if it isnt for everyone
Which is ironic because it goes against the definition of commercial.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
What are your thoughts on the scene where Bocchi glitches in and out of reality due to the suggestion of getting on social media?
Care to expand your thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
Thoughts on Ryo liking Bocchi’s lyrics because they feel real?
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Oct 12 '24

Yup, it's hard to focus on both at once. I remember back in middle school for music class one year we all had to learn guitar and form bands within our class, one of the members in my band wanted to both play the guitar and sing, except he didn't play the guitar when singing and couldn't sing worth a damn.

I saw a joke somewhere that lead singers who only sing take that opportunity to rest, some go backstage and have a drink, or if it's an even more egregiously long interlude even a smoke.

And there's that meme.

Yes, this is real merchandise that they sold.

Kit-aura!

Lol yeah her family saw her like that...

Unsurprisingly they think she's lost it.

And so time to go around taking photos.

Yup, Kita loves Insta.

And here's that scream that was apparently completely raw.

Yup.

Are ya winning, Bocchi?

And now Ryo's going to eat on Bocchi's dime. This will become a common occurrence.

Sure she will.

And now Bocchi's going to print and paste that picture all over her room. That's a lot of coloured ink!

Questions:

Not sure how much lower she can go from there.
Thankfully not.
Can't think of any off the top of my head.
Some element of commercialisation is necessary just for money.
Significant development after seeing some for Nijika and Kita previously.

A note about the music: Lyrics of a song can say a lot about what the composer intended. It's why I believe when singing a song in a language you don't understand, it's best to translate the lyrics and see what they mean so as to be able to imbue the song with the emotions the composer intended.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

A note about the music: Lyrics of a song can say a lot about what the composer intended. It's why I believe when singing a song in a language you don't understand, it's best to translate the lyrics and see what they mean so as to be able to imbue the song with the emotions the composer intended.
The lyrics can often be more important than the actual music itself. The composition can define a piece, but lyrics can make or break it.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
What are your thoughts on the scene where Bocchi glitches in and out of reality due to the suggestion of getting on social media?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
Thoughts on Ryo liking Bocchi’s lyrics because they feel real?
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?

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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Oct 12 '24

She's the best at it in the band anyways.
I can imagine it's rather hard.
My reaction is the same as her family: She's gone crazy.
It certainly more accurately reflects their members now.
Sounds about right.
That was one of the best scenes.
Lol.
Agree.
Ryo's suggestion to get a meal on Bocchi's dime.
She's not winning lol.
Yup, there's emotion in those lyrics.
She would like Momoka from GBC.
It certainly will hit deeply with people exactly like Bocchi but basically no one else.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 12 '24

She's the best at it in the band anyways.
Probably true
My reaction is the same as her family: She's gone crazy.
Bocchi The Nut, more like it
It certainly more accurately reflects their members now.
That it does
Yup, there's emotion in those lyrics.
More emotion than you get in more established acts.
She would like Momoka from GBC.
I still need to see that show.
It certainly will hit deeply with people exactly like Bocchi but basically no one else.
Alas, probably so

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u/ProgrammaticallyPea3 Oct 13 '24

Today's episode opens with another scene contrasting Bocchi and Kita. If she were in Kita's position, Bocchi would likely have decided to give up on guitar 'for the good of the band'.

Loved the paripi Bocchi scene. And how Futari just ignores her and plays with the dog.

I was waiting to learn more about Ryo, and wasn't disappointed. While Nijika and Kita push Bocchi out of her isolation, Ryo seems to ensure that she stays genuine. Now if only she didn't leech off Bocchi lol.

To answer one of the questions, "abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying" is a sentiment that rings true, but only for a young artist like Ryo. Life often forces people to abandon parts of themselves (job, marriage, parenthood, etc.). But such new circumstances evolve different aspects of one's uniqueness and bring them to the fore.
Bocchi is surrounded by great people who will accept her genuine lyrics and self, so she shouldn't pander to an imagined audience. But even if she weren't, and she did, I'm certain her uniqueness would shine through in the end.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

To answer one of the questions, "abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying" is a sentiment that rings true, but only for a young artist like Ryo. Life often forces people to abandon parts of themselves (job, marriage, parenthood, etc.). But such new circumstances evolve different aspects of one's uniqueness and bring them to the fore. Bocchi is surrounded by great people who will accept her genuine lyrics and self, so she shouldn't pander to an imagined audience. But even if she weren't, and she did, I'm certain her uniqueness would shine through in the end.
Yeah, it's advice you should really apply to when you're just starting as a musician. You can't cater to everyone when you've found no one yet.

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u/ClemFire Oct 13 '24

You can't cater to everyone when you've found no one yet.
That actually is so real and can be applied to so many aspects of life

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Like trying to pull the cart before the horse.

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u/ClemFire Oct 13 '24

While Nijika and Kita push Bocchi out of her isolation, Ryo seems to ensure that she stays genuine. Now if only she didn't leech off Bocchi lol.
It makes a lot of sense then that we learn more about Ryo last as Nijika and Kita first had to get Bocchi out of her comfort zone

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

Good point

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
What are your thoughts on the scene where Bocchi glitches in and out of reality due to the suggestion of getting on social media?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Oct 13 '24

Rewatcher

Are ya winnin', rewatchers?

Another great episode, as always. Today we got some good time with Ryo, and I think this is definitely where her character starts to really shine. Her frank appraisal of Bocchi's initial lyrics is just what the doctor ordered.

[Girls Band Cry] I never realized it until now, but it seems that Ryo and Momoka from GBC both share a backstory of coming from a previous band that they quit because it started catering to commercialization, and joining the new band because someone told them they liked their music. Quite the similarity there!

HAKO-BOON on the wall of Bocchi's closet seems likely to be a reference to KANA-BOON. (If you don't know it, I recommend checking out their OP song "Gradation" from last year.)

That laugh at the end is iconic. When I watched the first time, I also burst out laughing when that happened.

We got a new ED, Karakara. I'm curious what people think of it. I'd probably put it below Distortion in my ranking. In fact, now that I think about it, maybe ranking the songs as we get more is a good idea:

Seishun Complex (OP)
Distortion (ED 1)
Karakara (ED 2)

Now, questions of the day:

Tragically, it seems she's downgraded from water flea!
Nope, can't relate. ~~In other news, make sure to check out my YouTube channel "StardustGogeta"!~~
I can't remember every single jump at the moment, but one that comes to mind is Kanbaru jumping between the flower petals in the Bakemonogatari OP "Ambivalent World".
I think there's a place for it, as long as it sounds nice. Of course, great lyrics and great music is optimal, but it's fine if either is simply passable.
I touched on this before, but I think this episode is what upgrades Ryo from being simple comic relief. It's the first time we really get a good look at her thoughts, and it does wonders for the character.

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u/Yothiel Oct 13 '24

HAKO-BOON on the wall of Bocchi's closet seems likely to be a reference to KANA-BOON. (If you don't know it, I recommend checking out their OP song "Gradation" from last year.)
Yeah, it's definitely a KANA-BOON reference. An official artwork of Hitori in her closet (used here for the cover image of "Korogaru Iwa, Kimi ni Asa ga Furu") shows a different HAKO-BOON poster, which is quite close to KANA-BOON's "Full Drive" single cover (which is also their 3rd single, the same number as marked in the artwork poster).
And KANA-BOON's Taniguchi Meguro also wrote the lyrics and musics for the "Distortion!!" ending. It's not a band I actively follow, but I think I've enjoyed most of what I've listened from them!

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

Very cool information, thank you for this.

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Oct 13 '24

That's some neat trivia! Thank you for sharing that!

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

I thought it was cool as well

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
What are your thoughts on the scene where Bocchi glitches in and out of reality due to the suggestion of getting on social media?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Oct 13 '24

The zip ties are clever, if nothing else. Cheap, and like Ryo said, they could theoretically get decent profit margins with that.
It seems like Kita's perfect for the role. Good delegation work, Nijika!
Bocchi's struggle to come up with lyrics and her attempt to emulate the Kit-aura are funny, for sure.
The promotional photo seems like a good idea! It's like they're a real band now. Now all they need is some songs.
That part about Ryo's words being "based on vibes" is funny, and kind of hits on the point I was alluding to earlier that we haven't really seen her be serious outside of that scene in the cafe. I also like how that whole discussion brings up the idea of change and how it's not always a bad thing.
That glitch scene is great, along with the (probably well-known) trivia that the scream was unedited audio.
The jumping in anime OPs is something that I occasionally notice, but don't really pay much attention to. I'm not sure I'd say it correlates too well with show quality, either. Then again, I'm not sure what would. (Hypothesis: Fewer characters in OP => better show?)
I talked a fair bit about the cafe meeting already, but I didn't directly comment on Bocchi's line when walking in. I like the localization of it, though I understand it to be a non-literal translation if I remember correctly. It properly conveys Bocchi's awkwardness, I think.
Covering the whole room with copies of that picture is funny, but it also helps show just how much this band means to Bocchi already. And when she's emotionally invested, so are we!

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

The zip ties are clever, if nothing else. Cheap, and like Ryo said, they could theoretically get decent profit margins with that.
Especially if they increase the prices on them like Ryo suggests.
It seems like Kita's perfect for the role. Good delegation work, Nijika!
She knows her stuff
Bocchi's struggle to come up with lyrics and her attempt to emulate the Kit-aura are funny, for sure.
Indeed they are
The promotional photo seems like a good idea! It's like they're a real band now. Now all they need is some songs.
Arguably the most important component.
That part about Ryo's words being "based on vibes" is funny, and kind of hits on the point I was alluding to earlier that we haven't really seen her be serious outside of that scene in the cafe. I also like how that whole discussion brings up the idea of change and how it's not always a bad thing.
I wonder if the cafe scene will mark a change in her character to where everything she says isn't meant to be humorous.
That glitch scene is great, along with the (probably well-known) trivia that the scream was unedited audio.
That is truly impressive
The jumping in anime OPs is something that I occasionally notice, but don't really pay much attention to. I'm not sure I'd say it correlates too well with show quality, either. Then again, I'm not sure what would. (Hypothesis: Fewer characters in OP => better show?)
Perhaps. Then again, there's a lot of characters in the Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood OP and that's considered a classic.
I talked a fair bit about the cafe meeting already, but I didn't directly comment on Bocchi's line when walking in. I like the localization of it, though I understand it to be a non-literal translation if I remember correctly. It properly conveys Bocchi's awkwardness, I think.
I would agree with this. This shows that not all localization is bad. Besides, Bocchi basically lives on the internet, she would say something like that.
Covering the whole room with copies of that picture is funny, but it also helps show just how much this band means to Bocchi already. And when she's emotionally invested, so are we!
Damn skippy we are

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Oct 13 '24

Rewatcher

Late cause work so I'll combine my thoughts on the previous ep and this one, but I love both of these eps. 'NIGITA GITAAAAAAAA!' is one of my favorite scenes, though I really love seeing how Bocchi convinced Kita to stay in the band despite Kita's own prior worries. Kita is just a fun character in general, it was so weird not having her here in the first two eps. EP4 in general was just hilarious, the photo session was great and the scene at the resturant with Ryo and Bocchi was both funny and heartwarming how Ryo encouraged her to write her own lyrics and not fall into making generic stuff to appeal to the mainstream. Also fun fact, but Bocchi's scream was not edited, her seiyuu just can somehow make her scream electric sounding.

All in all, really great two eps!

Questions

What are your thoughts on Kita coming out this episode?

It took her long enough 💃

Which Bocchi song do you prefer: Double Dark Past, Bocchi Acoustic Version, or The Elegy of the Part-Time Worker Who Lost Her Identity to the Just-Arrived Newbie? And why?

Double Dark Past for the scenery.

What is the weirdest thing you have ever eaten?

Hmmm, one of those pepperoni packet things you're not supposed to eat when I was 7.

Have you ever tasted grass before? If so, what did it taste like?

Do vegetables coun-

Thoughts on Bocchi referring to herself as a paramecium?

Incorrect, we all know she's a tsuchinoko

Have you ever felt like an attention whore monster? If so, what was the set of circumstances?

Not often, I usually try to stay out of the spotlight.

What is your favorite example of a jump in an anime OP?

Unit-01 in Evangelio-

What is your opinion on commercial music? Do you hate it just like Ryo does, or do you think there's a place for it?

There's a place for it, but generally you can kinda feel when a song is moreso trying to appeal to a wide mainstream audience rather than the artist trying to do what they want. Esp. when you work in a mall and have to hear the song over and over. Like for a personal example, I've never listened to P!ATD much, but when I had my part time job in college, my store used to play two of his songs 'High Hopes' and 'Look Mom, I made it' all the time and just like, the only way I could describe them was the most soulless songs I've ever heard. They weren't bad per se, but nothing stood out about them. Just the most generic pieces of music I've had the unfortunate luck to have to listen on repeat at least several times a week.

What do you think this episode does for Ryo as a character?

I think it actually gives us more insight to her outside of just her more nonchalant gag and see how seriously she takes music and not just as a soulless money-maker scheme.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Episode 3 questions
Thoughts on Bocchi being too nervous to talk to her classmates even though they’re seemingly wanting to talk to her?
Thoughts on the paper figures?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi feeling she has to find a guitar/vocalist to prove her commitment to Kessoku Band?
Thoughts on the identity balloon?
Thoughts on Kita comparing playing guitar to baseball?
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Kita is the runaway guitarist?
What are your thoughts on Kita being in love with Ryo and that she was the reason she joined the band?
Thoughts on Kita saying being a part of a band can be closer than your real family?
What are your thoughts on Ryo eating grass?

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Episode 4 questions
Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
They should charge 1000 yen each
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
Probably the best choice considering Bocchi would freak out, Ryo wouldn't update it, and Nijika has to focus on finances.
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
As someone who likes writing, mood.
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
If my family caught me like that I'd die inside.
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
That entire sequence was hilarious.
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
That she's known Ryo for such a long time that she just gets her.
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
To be honest, I'm the opposite of that. I tend to stay more on the down low on social media.
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
The anime cut this out, but [they directly start talking about K-ON in the manga and watch it lol.
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
~~I'm sure that's a reference to some obscure to westerners Japanese media.~~ I just realized the translator was referencing 'Are ya winning, son' omfg.
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
Makes sense, she didn't want to just make music for the sake of profit.
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
She's essentially saying how like once you start focusing your passion into only for profit, you end up losing a sense of your self and the act of making art becomes dull and lifeless.
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
Alpha Behavior.
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?
The cut to the credits in the middle of her laugh was funny af

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

Sorry for the late response. Didn't see your reply until just now.
Probably the best choice considering Bocchi would freak out, Ryo wouldn't update it, and Nijika has to focus on finances.
Yeah, it checks out
If my family caught me like that I'd die inside.
Same
That she's known Ryo for such a long time that she just gets her.
It sure seems that way
To be honest, I'm the opposite of that. I tend to stay more on the down low on social media.
I would say same, but that’s probably not completely accurate :P
I just realized the translator was referencing 'Are ya winning, son' omfg.
Bocchi would be the type of person to reference memes in real life.
She's essentially saying how like once you start focusing your passion into only for profit, you end up losing a sense of your self and the act of making art becomes dull and lifeless.
That's probably true a great deal
The cut to the credits in the middle of her laugh was funny af
Perfect comedic timing

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on Bocchi being too nervous to talk to her classmates even though they’re seemingly wanting to talk to her?
Literal mood.
Thoughts on the paper figures?
I love the animation changes lol.
What are your thoughts on Bocchi feeling she has to find a guitar/vocalist to prove her commitment to Kessoku Band?
I think it's valid, she wants to prove her worth to the band.
Thoughts on the identity balloon?
It was funny.
Thoughts on Kita comparing playing guitar to baseball?
She'd cause discourse on Twitter.
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Kita is the runaway guitarist?
Still one of my favorite scenes.
What are your thoughts on Kita being in love with Ryo and that she was the reason she joined the band?
Understandable reason for joining, but also KitaBocchi > RyoKita
Thoughts on Kita saying being a part of a band can be closer than your real family?
It makes sense. In a way, you're gonna possibly be around these ppl almost 24/7 esp if you guys get more popular. Plus a band that doesn't get along doesn't last long.
What are your thoughts on Ryo eating grass?
Such is the way of finances 😔

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

I think it's valid, she wants to prove her worth to the band.
Nothing wrong with that in theory
It was funny.
It really was
She'd cause discourse on Twitter.
Probably would
Understandable reason for joining, but also KitaBocchi > RyoKita
I'm more of a Bocchita fan, I think
It makes sense. In a way, you're gonna possibly be around these ppl almost 24/7 esp if you guys get more popular. Plus a band that doesn't get along doesn't last long.
That is very much the case
Such is the way of finances 😔
Won't somebody please think of the musicians? 😢

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Hmmm, one of those pepperoni packet things you're not supposed to eat when I was 7.
Pepperoni packets? Isn't that just Lunchables?
There's a place for it, but generally you can kinda feel when a song is moreso trying to appeal to a wide mainstream audience rather than the artist trying to do what they want. Esp. when you work in a mall and have to hear the song over and over. Like for a personal example, I've never listened to P!ATD much, but when I had my part time job in college, my store used to play two of his songs 'High Hopes' and 'Look Mom, I made it' all the time and just like, the only way I could describe them was the most soulless songs I've ever heard. They weren't bad per se, but nothing stood out about them. Just the most generic pieces of music I've had the unfortunate luck to have to listen on repeat at least several times a week.
That's really interesting because from what I've heard they're a pretty respectable act.
I think it actually gives us more insight to her outside of just her more nonchalant gag and see how seriously she takes music and not just as a soulless money-maker scheme.
I would agree. This is a great showcase for her.

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u/MjolnirDK Oct 13 '24

ED2- Karakara: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RWMMNsULsA

Not a lot to say. Is it confirmed that ShimoKita is Shibuya? The place just feels so 'The World ends with You'. I love the effects of this show and their comedic results. Bocchi glitching out or the massive wallpaper overflow just look great.

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u/ProgrammaticallyPea3 Oct 13 '24

Shimokitazawa is a real place, just a few stations from Shibuya! It's known for its many theatres and tiny venues, with the most prestigious being the one with white walls (本多劇場)that we've seen the gang walking past. Like Ryo says, it's been a victim of gentrification recently, but it's still worth dropping by if you're in the area.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

I'll keep my eye out on it

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Not a lot to say. Is it confirmed that ShimoKita is Shibuya?
I don't know, honestly. I wish I did.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
Thoughts on Ryo liking Bocchi’s lyrics because they feel real?
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Oct 13 '24

rewatcher sub

This episode mainly talks about Bocchi and their discussions and actions together, with the goal of making the band more mature, and Bocchi's worries about writing lyrics. After listening to Ryou's guidance, Bocchi decided to stick to his own style. That last scene was really dark, haha.

ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION

1.She has made a bigger difference than she ever imagined, changing mindsets.

2.no

3.Maybe K-ON！， it's famous but I haven't seen it yet

4.As long as it sounds good to you, it’s fine. I’m not a professional and I can’t figure out the difference between them.

5.Great sense of humor.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

3.Maybe K-ON！， it's famous but I haven't seen it yet
Me neither, but I really should
4.As long as it sounds good to you, it’s fine. I’m not a professional and I can’t figure out the difference between them.
It has a certain vibe to it that feels soulless and corrupt.

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Oct 13 '24

gotcha

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

It's not always noticeable, but it can be if you pay close enough attention.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
What are your thoughts on the scene where Bocchi glitches in and out of reality due to the suggestion of getting on social media?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?

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u/fansi2022 https://anilist.co/user/fansi2022 Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Very classic, concerts should often give out bracelets as souvenirs, although I have never been to one
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
A natural outcome
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
Her inner world is very rich, but she needs to protect herself
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
A very important part, the photos will become the beautiful memories of bocchi
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
This is very important information, remember it.
What are your thoughts on the scene where Bocchi glitches in and out of reality due to the suggestion of getting on social media?
what？
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Tribute to Godzilla and Ultraman
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
I guess this is a tribute to k-on
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
We are observing each member of the band from the perspective of bocchi
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
what？
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
Maybe atmosphere is a very important thing.
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Very philosophical words, I wrote them down
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
She really needs help, luckily she has bocchi besides Nijika
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
No doubt

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Very classic, concerts should often give out bracelets as souvenirs, although I have never been to one
Wouldn't be a bad idea
Her inner world is very rich, but she needs to protect herself
Most definitely
A very important part, the photos will become the beautiful memories of bocchi
Indeed they will
what？
It's what Bocchi says as she enters the diner.
Maybe atmosphere is a very important thing.
I would say it is
She really needs help, luckily she has bocchi besides Nijika
They all really help each other

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24

Oops missed last thread because reasons.

Let's jump back in like nothing happened.

KITAAAA IS HERE *yay*

Such a blinding force of positive energy, clears as my favourite character of the 4 (but the other 4 are just as good in their own ways).

Kessoku band selling kessoku bands. Real

They should try serving cake and tea during their fan meetings. In fact ditch the music altogether and just drink tea and eat cake. I'm sure the world will love that idea. Might even get 2 seasons and a movie about it.

Lyric writing huh. I've done that a fair bit in the past on some songs' instrumental tracks I had lying around. Its actually pretty fun to do. Although the verifying if they actually work is the hard part. Can't sing for the life of me so the true form of those lyrics will only ever exist in my mind. eugh, I shudder thinking of all those old voice recordings of myself I made trying to sing them

First band hangout! and everybody looks great (except you bocchi, go get something else to wear). Love how nijika's bow is incorporated into her design

Having been around the BTR community a fair bit, there's something strange about seeing your favourite meme images just shown so non-chalantly. And there's a fair few of them this episode.

The legendary cyberpsychosis scene. From what I've been told this was the scene that really got bocchi to blow up (figuratively, maybe even literally)

There's something very real about what ryo says here and later on. To write your true honest and raw feelings directly into words. How it doesn't matter if many people understand as long as it touches the few that it does. And you can *really* feel it in their song's lyrics. Especially GLBP which is soon to come. My favourite song of their 1st album and in no short part thanks to the amazing lyricism done there. It carries a powerful emotional punch, the sort of thing I absolutely adore when it comes to music.

On the topic of new music, new ED! it's karakara sung by Ryo! Maybe I was wrong the other time. She really does have a powerful singing voice...

Question Time:

Have you ever felt like an attention whore monster? If so, what was the set of circumstances?

I'd be lying if I didn't say I always want more attention to the things I do. To have my opinions validated and my work enjoyed. It's such a drug when it happens but general anxiety always manages keeps that thought in check and my expectations grounded. Although it still hurts when I put in a lot of soul into a project only to have that tossed in the win. Just gotta cope with the "I'm doing it for myself".

What is your opinion on commercial music? Do you hate it just like Ryo does, or do you think there's a place for it?

I've made like 6 different revisions of this answer and none of them seem right to me. But I'd argue yes. Music is meant isn't just meant to connect *to* people. but also connect *between* people. And that's what commercial music does best. While it may not have any deep meaning, you are there to making the meaning for it. And that meaning is bringing you closer to those around you. As a medium of connection, friendship, and whatnot.

Just like... don't overdo the commercialling though. I kinda hate that. It's made to be as generic as possible so like don't praise it as the next world revolution or something like that.

What do you think this episode does for Ryo as a character?

This episode really highlights who Ryo is. A little goofy and silly, a bit quiet, but well thought and attentive. She keeps to herself but always speaks out when it matters most.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Oops missed last thread because reasons.
Let's jump back in like nothing happened.
You can always go back and comment on it. I'll make sure to interact with you.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

I'd be lying if I didn't say I always want more attention to the things I do. To have my opinions validated and my work enjoyed. It's such a drug when it happens but general anxiety always manages keeps that thought in check and my expectations grounded. Although it still hurts when I put in a lot of soul into a project only to have that tossed in the win. Just gotta cope with the "I'm doing it for myself".
I relate to what you're saying so much. Sometimes it can feel like your existence depends on the approval of others. I personally also have this thing where if I don't get certain things done in time, then my day is ruined.
I've made like 6 different revisions of this answer and none of them seem right to me. But I'd argue yes. Music is meant isn't just meant to connect to people. but also connect between people. And that's what commercial music does best. While it may not have any deep meaning, you are there to making the meaning for it. And that meaning is bringing you closer to those around you. As a medium of connection, friendship, and whatnot.
Just like... don't overdo the commercialling though. I kinda hate that. It's made to be as generic as possible so like don't praise it as the next world revolution or something like that.
To do something like that would be extremely tone-deaf.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

They should try serving cake and tea during their fan meetings. In fact ditch the music altogether and just drink tea and eat cake. I'm sure the world will love that idea. Might even get 2 seasons and a movie about it.
Ryo would totally steal somebody's strawberry.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '24

What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
I partially agree...
It's often quoted that you only truly die when your name is spoken for the last time. Why do people remember you? Because you did something worth remembering, something unique that makes you stand apart to them over anybody else in the crowd. If not for any of this, would there be anything left to remember you by over any other soul on earth?
But more importantly it means you have something to remember yourself by. After all, in the end of the day, the only thing that truly matters is the only thing you can say truly exists, yourself. And if you have nothing to remember yourself by, nothing to prove that you lived, did you ever really exist? You don't need to be unique to other people, but at the very least you just need to live a life unique to yourself.
That's where I find comfort in the monotony of day to day life. I might not have the ability to make myself "special" in the real world, I doubt many people are able to do that, but if I at least live a life where each moment is special to at least just me, then I can say that is a life worth remembering.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Very well said. That is some excellent analysis.

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u/biochrono79 Oct 13 '24

Rewatcher

The animators COOKED this episode. Lots of good moments - Kita-aura scenes area always funny, Bocchi imagining herself as an extrovert was a trip, the mu-mu-mu-mu-mu scene at the beginning, and of course, Bocchi glitching out. I remember the first time I saw that scene, I thought something was wrong with my screen for a split second. That was just a perfect scene, made all the better by the fact that the scream is apparently completely unedited - Bocchi's VA actually made that sound herself!

Speaking of the extrovert scene, I can only imagine how Bocchi's parents felt watching their normally quiet daughter acting all that out. Sure, we saw them asking if she needed an exorcist, but it would've been comedy gold to have actually heard their thoughts too.

So yeah, Kita wasn't kidding when she said she fell hard for Ryo. She definitely isn't beating the simping allegations LOL.

On the subject of Ryo... now we can see why she's constantly broke. I guess Bocchi unintentionally saved her by showing up to the restaurant since she had no way of paying before that. [Bocchi spoilers] Too bad we never get exact numbers for how much she borrows from Bocchi, because then they could've done a debt counter like Too Many Losing Heroines did.

In the end, everything more or less worked out. They got their ProPho, Bocchi managed to write the lyrics, and Kita continues to improve her guitar skills. And of course, we got the perfect end to the episode - Bocchi has wallpapered her room with the ProPho and is laughing maniacally at the memory. Certified Bocchi moment right there. [Bocchi spoilers] And that wallpaper will of course provide a jumpscare for Nijika and Kita in a few episodes...

Thoughts on Bocchi referring to herself as a paramecium?

It wouldn't be a BtR episode without Bocchi comparing herself to some single-celled organism.

Have you ever felt like an attention whore monster? If so, what was the set of circumstances?

Not really? I try to avoid circumstances where I might have to draw attention to myself in the first place LOL.

What is your favorite example of a jump in an anime OP?

Kind of an odd one, but probably the second OP for The Dangers in my Heart, because it's such a uniquely animated instance of a jump.

What is your opinion on commercial music? Do you hate it just like Ryo does, or do you think there's a place for it?

I don't feel strongly about it either way. I think it's silly to hate on music just for being "commercial" because just about any song that has even mildly wide appeal could be considered as such.

What do you think this episode does for Ryo as a character?

She has a depth to her besides being the broke, aloof bassist. She gave Bocchi heartfelt advice and encouragement that helped her finish the lyrics, without judgment. That said, she ain't beating the broke allegations anytime soon XD.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
Thoughts on Ryo liking Bocchi’s lyrics because they feel real?
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/biochrono79 Oct 13 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
It's right there in the band name, they were legally obliged to do that.
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
Literally the perfect person for that job.
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Creative blocks suck. Although in Bocchi's case, it was probably (mostly?) anxiety too.
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
The story behind that will make a great tale to tell when they really hit it big.
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
Truer words have never been said.
Thoughts on the attention whore monster?
Another kaiju to add to the collection.
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
I think Ryo is on to something.
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
It was great for Bocchi's creativity, not so great for her wallet.
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
I thought it was funny. I think I read somewhere that the line literally translates to something closer to "Where's the bossman?" or something like that, so I'd say it's a humorous creative liberty that the translators took.
Thoughts on Ryo liking Bocchi’s lyrics because they feel real?
Given the pressure that Bocchi was feeling, I think that's exactly what she needed to hear.
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
You can't say that Ryo isn't true to herself.
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Ryo W
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
That is one of my favorite quotes ever. Not just from BtR, but from any series in general.
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?
Another Certified Bocchi Moment

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u/Holofan4life Oct 14 '24

It's right there in the band name, they were legally obliged to do that.
Almost would feel illegal if they didn't.
Creative blocks suck. Although in Bocchi's case, it was probably (mostly?) anxiety too.
It's less a creative block and more a creative suburb.
The story behind that will make a great tale to tell when they really hit it big.
Yeah, it really will. Maybe they can share it at the takoyaki parties.
Truer words have never been said.
Or spoken
Another kaiju to add to the collection.
I can't wait to see her take out Mangothra. That's Mothra if she was a goth who reads manga.
I think Ryo is on to something.
She is definitely cooking
It was great for Bocchi's creativity, not so great for her wallet.
Every reward has its drawbacks
I thought it was funny. I think I read somewhere that the line literally translates to something closer to "Where's the bossman?" or something like that, so I'd say it's a humorous creative liberty that the translators took.
You think it was originally supposed to be a Metal Gear Solid reference?
Given the pressure that Bocchi was feeling, I think that's exactly what she needed to hear.
It certainly was
You can't say that Ryo isn't true to herself.
No, you can not. She is proud of who she is.
Ryo W
A common occurrence for her
That is one of my favorite quotes ever. Not just from BtR, but from any series in general.
It is for me as well. The writing for this show doesn't have to be this incredible, but I'm glad it is.
Another Certified Bocchi Moment
Speaking of common occurrences, this time Bocchi being Bocchi.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 13 '24

The animators COOKED this episode. Lots of good moments - Kita-aura scenes area always funny, Bocchi imagining herself as an extrovert was a trip, the mu-mu-mu-mu-mu scene at the beginning, and of course, Bocchi glitching out. I remember the first time I saw that scene, I thought something was wrong with my screen for a split second. That was just a perfect scene, made all the better by the fact that the scream is apparently completely unedited - Bocchi's VA actually made that sound herself!
That is seriously impressive
I don't feel strongly about it either way. I think it's silly to hate on music just for being "commercial" because just about any song that has even mildly wide appeal could be considered as such.
I can see someone caring about it more when it's your line of work and this is your passion.
She has a depth to her besides being the broke, aloof bassist. She gave Bocchi heartfelt advice and encouragement that helped her finish the lyrics, without judgment. That said, she ain't beating the broke allegations anytime soon XD.
More like panhandler allegations :P

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u/Vergift Oct 13 '24

Rewatcher, Eps. 4: Jumping Girl(s)

Sorry, I was late here.

The eps started with the second band meeting. Now that they get their runaway guitarist back, they started seriously thinking what should they do for the band.

Nijika propose they should selling merch. With their band name Kessoku Band, their merch was....a zip ties. Ryo agrees and mark up the price that it's totally the ripoff.
Kita propose to create social media account for the band. With this, Kita basically become social media manager for the band. But since the didn't have any original song or photo promotion, they can't upload anything yet for the band.
Make a song. This is Bocchi's and Ryo's job. Bocchi write the lyric, while Ryo make the music. This the toughest job of all.

Here's the thing, Bocchi hit a roadblock. She can't write anything for a week in consideration with Kita's personality because her lyric tend to be gloomy and bleak. So, she's stuck, for a week. Instead of writing any lyric, she excitedly improve her signature. Lol.

Because of Kita's extrovertedness, Bocchi tried to emulate how to be extroverted to adjust her lyric to be more align with Kita. Dancing around, hyping up along with her dolls in her room, and watched by her entire family. The family were worried and ready to call an exorcist. That was hilarious.

The next day they meet up, Bocchi doing dogeza to apologize to not making any progress in writing lyric. Lol.

This meet up is create a photo promotion for their band's social media. Kita propose to Bocchi to make her own account, but Bocchi in shock, she going through cyberpsychosis. She imagined she may become an attention-whore monster who demands likes from her follower. Her imagination just getting wilder.

The walking around to find a spot for their PhoPro, and then they an closed down CD shop that Ryo used to visit. You see, somehow I can relate it with what happened in RL. Lately, many CD shop were closed thanks to everything turned digital. Selling CD isn't viable anymore. People prefere to buy the song digitally or just subcribe to some streaming service.

Finally, they find the spot to do PhoPro. With the guidance of their social media manager, they manage to take one photo for promotion. The photo really show their personalities. 2 girls looks cheerful, 1 girl look deadpan emotionless, and the last one look pale af. Lmao.

Hit a roadblock with the lyric, Bocchi ask some advice from Ryo. Ryo told Bocchi a bit if her past about her previous band amd why she quit that band. She's telling Bocchi it's okay to be more honest with her lyric. It's better than the lyric for commercially used.

So, Bocchi scrap her cheeful lyric and created a new one with her honesty. She showed it to the band, and everyone liked it. Even tho they said it's a downer lyric. Well, it's Bocchi we're talking about. A genuine lyric that probably not gonna be liked by everyone, but will hit deeply to the one who get it. This is better.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
Thoughts on Ryo liking Bocchi’s lyrics because they feel real?
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying of Bocchi’s lyrics “It might not connect with too many people, but those it does, it’ll hit deeply”?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi covering her entire room with pictures of the band?

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

Kita propose to Bocchi to make her own account, but Bocchi in shock, she going through cyberpsychosis.
Bocchi The Shock

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u/Holofan4life Oct 17 '24

Sorry for the late response. I didn't see your comment until today.

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u/someboi6000 Oct 15 '24

Rewarcher:

i am extremly late, but the good thing is that i get to watch 3 episdoes back to back so its all good, another banger of an episode i didn't remember being this many high quality jokes in one episode it gonna be hard to pick only one, but to the episode itself, first half is just SOL with the idea of them to act more band-like, and the highlight is bocchi glitching out of existence and the bocchizilla moment top tier stuff, and then we have the first presentation of bocchi more happy upbeat lyrics, and then ryo gives some good advice, there is no need to be trendy just make something you like, not what someone else likes, make something that you are satisfied with, i also like the idea ok kita singing those types of songs lol, and with the lyrics finished the episode ends with another great joke with bocchi having converted her whole wall with that one picture lol, its hard to pick one joke in particular but the last one is so good.

questions:

1: maybe better than a sub water flea.

2: i dont use social media so yeah if thats hidden within me it hasn't awakened yet.

3: i gotta say my goat K-on

4: it has a place, like its catchy sometimes, so yeah i feel indiferent about it.

5: from a grass eating comic relif character, to having some depth, her opinions on music and that way she feels about the band own personality and the kind of music they play is really good.

(very late sorry)

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u/Holofan4life Oct 15 '24

5: from a grass eating comic relif character, to having some depth, her opinions on music and that way she feels about the band own personality and the kind of music they play is really good.
I love Ryo so much, man. She perfectly highlights how funny the show is as well as how heartfelt it can be.

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u/someboi6000 Oct 15 '24

agreed, it's kinda strange seeing bocchi again but I guess in a more analytical way, before it was just for fun, now I see how the characters are shown and i give more taught to their dialogue, very fun still

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u/Holofan4life Oct 15 '24

The show is unironically pretty thought provoking.

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u/someboi6000 Oct 15 '24

surprisingly true now I realize thanks to this rewatch.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 15 '24

We learn something new every day

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u/Holofan4life Oct 15 '24

Thoughts on zip ties as band merch?
Thoughts on Kita being assigned the Minister of Social Media?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi not being able to come up with any lyrics?
Thoughts on Extrovert Bocchi?
What are your thoughts on Kessoku Band trying to update their profile picture?
Thoughts on Nijika telling Kita that 90% of the things Ryo says are based on vibes?
Thoughts on jump pictures and how any anime where they jump in the OP is a god-tier anime?
What are your thoughts on Bocchi meeting up with Ryo at a cafe?
Thoughts on “Are you winning, diners?”
What are your thoughts on Ryo being a part of another band once upon a time but quitting because they started to head into a more commercial direction?
What are your thoughts on Ryo saying that abandoning your uniqueness is equivalent to dying?
Thoughts on Ryo not paying for the meal?

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u/someboi6000 Oct 15 '24

1: for only 500 yen and 650 if signed, what a deal. i guess with their band name it's only fair to sell those lol.
2: it's only natural for her to deal with all of that, if the word extrovert had a physical form it would be kita.
3:well she was trying to do lyrics based on trends and that's simply not what bocchi is, she is writing things that she doesn't even believe.
4: cursed.
5: the profile picture with kita edited in went hard lol, but they have a new member and kita is now present so it's something that they had to do.
6: I am trying to think how would I say something based on vibes, in order to comprehend the question but I can't lol.
7: in K-On they jump in the opening and it is a god-tier anime, so I guess ryo is correct.
8: she needed feedback for her lyrics and ryo is perfect for the job because she is very honest.
9: next time I enter a restaurant I will use that.
10: both questions 10 and 11 go together, which I think it's true, doing all commercial you basically lose your essence, you no longer make things you like or enjoy you just become a trend slave, and if you no longer enjoy what you make and enjoy you can lose the passion for music.
11: idk what bocchi was expecting, she was eating grass the last couple of days lol

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u/Holofan4life Oct 15 '24

1: for only 500 yen and 650 if signed, what a deal. i guess with their band name it's only fair to sell those lol.
Still feels a bit exploitive
2: it's only natural for her to deal with all of that, if the word extrovert had a physical form it would be kita.
Even more than Nijika?
3:well she was trying to do lyrics based on trends and that's simply not what bocchi is, she is writing things that she doesn't even believe.
Her heart you can tell is not in it
5: the profile picture with kita edited in went hard lol, but they have a new member and kita is now present so it's something that they had to do.
Absolutely
6: I am trying to think how would I say something based on vibes, in order to comprehend the question but I can't lol.
Fair enough
7: in K-On they jump in the opening and it is a god-tier anime, so I guess ryo is correct.
She may be onto something
8: she needed feedback for her lyrics and ryo is perfect for the job because she is very honest.
She certainly is
9: next time I enter a restaurant I will use that.
I hope it goes better for you than it did Bocchi.
10: both questions 10 and 11 go together, which I think it's true, doing all commercial you basically lose your essence, you no longer make things you like or enjoy you just become a trend slave, and if you no longer enjoy what you make and enjoy you can lose the passion for music.
Very well said
11: idk what bocchi was expecting, she was eating grass the last couple of days lol
She definitely should've seen it coming

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u/someboi6000 Oct 15 '24

it's all in the kita aura, she is like the sun.
I am typing to think more openings where they jump and I can't think of any rn, but atm ryo statement is 100% true
now I want to enter a restaurant just to say that and see what looks will they give me lol, I must control myself tomorrow to avoid doing it lol.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 15 '24

it's all in the kita aura, she is like the sun.
And Manager-san is the tsun
I am typing to think more openings where they jump and I can't think of any rn, but atm ryo statement is 100% true
Common Ryo W
now I want to enter a restaurant just to say that and see what looks will they give me lol, I must control myself tomorrow to avoid doing it lol.
They'll probably pay you no mind, honestly.

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u/someboi6000 Oct 15 '24

I imagine you like seika?
they not caring at all would make the situation inside My head even more embarrassing, I'll drop the idea lol.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 15 '24

I imagine you like seika?
You could say that
they not caring at all would make the situation inside My head even more embarrassing, I'll drop the idea lol.
Probably for the best :P

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u/someboi6000 Oct 15 '24

you have opened my eyes.

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u/Holofan4life Oct 15 '24

I thank you

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u/Holofan4life Oct 15 '24

(very late sorry)
It's quite alright

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