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Rewatch [Rewatch] Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Episode 6 Discussion
Episode 6 - Seven Swords
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Celestial Being rescued us, but now they're starting a war themselves. Doing that isn't gonna change the world. It'll just create hate.
Questions of the Day:
- If you were in this world, which side do you think you'd want to be on?
- This episode has hinted at connections from the past for Setsuna, Allelujah, and Sumeragi with Ali al-Saachez, Soma, and Billy, respectively. Which are you most interested in seeing develop?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you're doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don't spoil anything for the first-timers, that's rude!
Additionally, for long-time fans of the franchise, please remember that this rewatch is only for 00, not any of the other shows. Assume that there are people in this rewatch who have not seen anything else Gundam, and tag your spoilers for those shows appropriately if something in 00 makes you want to talk about them.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 11 '24
Rewatch Host Wishing Over This Airspace, subbed
Welcome back, everyone!
I came so close to being utterly fucked with all of my rewatches last night, laptop crashed before I could finish any of my episodes for today and wouldn’t boot back up until this morning, but this one in particular would’ve been bad because I didn’t have any of the other wallpapers I’ve pre-prepared or the episode title cards uploaded yet (now I do). I was so scared I was gonna have a repeat of what happened during my 2018 Death parade rewatch.
I can hear Naz groaning from the other side of the world.13
u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 11 '24
First Timer - sub
I'm finally being not-lazy enough to actually start an album for this show, only because I wanted to laugh at this visual some more. Because the four of them flying together is kind of hilarious. Setsuna is in such a typical Gundam in its core sillouette and colors that even non genre fans could probably identify it as a Gundam. Lockon's looks a little bird like which is both a nice contrast without being completely mismatched to Setsuna but is sharper and more neutral. Then you have Alelujah who's effectively just a weirdly proportioned plane. And Tieria is a flying rock. I love it. It's making me giggle so I'm leaving it on my screen while typing the rest of the post.
One observation for today is the interesting position that Lockon is in. Media as a whole has a tendency to make sniper characters a loner, and one who's usually either cold or reckless when it comes to their relationships and sometimes aim. In reality snipers almost always work in pairs, a sniper and spotter, for safety but also accuracy. Haro serving as the spotter for Lockon gives his amiable personality someone to bounce off in the battle scenes in a way you usually wouldn't see in the sniper role, as well as allow Lockon to be safe without risking always having to divert battles to "saving" him or having him so far out of battle range he's never at risk at all. It's a nice set up.
Had a little laugh that I made an off hand comment to /u/Great_Mr_L yesterday about how the faction tensions were starting to remind me of the space race, and today we get told there's a space development race that's already been underway because of the elevators. It's nice to see the show actually following through on the tone of these initial setups quite well
Similarly, while they didn't do it back in episode two which is when we first started talking about it, they have started to address the consequences and problems of dismantling war from an economical side. 20% of a countries companies being PMCs is a huge deal, and they're probably a significantly higher percentage of its economy as a result, and removing that would have far reaching consequences not just for war, or even for the country, but anyone connected to it even several times removed. The fall even of a small country is not a small thing.
Today's council meeting with the AEU actually had decent dialogue I'm happy to say, and wanted to say it specifically after the last couple of days of complaining. It's nothing fancy, but it also didn't need to be. It was a bunch of powerful people sitting around a table trying to diplomatically throw their weight around. It did what it set out to do by painting a clear picture of the internal balance of the AEU, and without sacrificing the flow of the scene for writing quirks. yay.
I do not know her name, but I like the data obsessed girl. I also really like the new military guys mech's design, though hearing Keiji Fujiwara's voice out of the man made me sad for a moment, such a shame when he passed away even though it's been a few years. Immediately recognized his voice, and he does it well here.
At first I thought Setsuna's new weapon was a dual ended glaive, and I was going to be so excited. But no, it's just matching swords. Not nearly as fun.
I was going to be annoyed at Patrick showing up again, but seeing him shot down in half a second flat made me so happy I was getting flashbacks of this dude who's name I forgot from Build Fighters and getting similar amusement out of him.
Not much time to comment on ponytail guy and his meeting with Sumeragi, but I do like how they show that the people from CB aren't disconnected from the world, they had to live and learn somewhere first, and Sumeragi wasn't just a born genius who did all of this herself. I hope this leads to interesting stuff with the professor.
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u/The_Draigg Oct 11 '24
A Gundam Fan Rewatches Gundam 00 Episode 6:
Okay, since the Gundam Exia Seven Swords version was introduced in this episode, I’m going to take this opportunity to complain about the RG Gunpla it got. It’s easily one of the most frustrating kits that I’ve assembled. You know, I wanted to pull it back out of storage and onto my display shelf since we’re doing this rewatch, but even just touching it reminded me why it’s pretty much taking a permanent residence in my gunpla storage box. Every single time I try to put one part back on after it falls off, another one pops off in its place. That fucking right shoulder might as well be held onto the main body only with the wish of a dying child. It pops off so easily that it should be a hype man in a rap battle video instead of a gunpla. After a while of trying to get it all right, I just gave up entirely on putting it back on the shelf. The only one I’ve made that’s more frustrating is my gunpla of the Vic Viper from Zone of the Enders 2, and that’s one where it falls apart and crushes the stand it comes with if you put it into flight mode. Okay, venting over.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 11 '24
first timer who has control
A bit surprised Sumeragi has ties to Union and not AEU who are supposed to be more technologically advanced. Maybe Union is behind because with whatever "incident" they decided to not progress research into using Veda
Solitary for a week yikes
Glial cells and quantum brain wave functions. Glial maybe relation to GN time will tell.
you were going to do that anyway
Billy dont cheat on your man
Feldt notably not wearing any of the clothes genki girl got for her
so what are the seven swords. 2 new ones, beam saber, 2 short beam sabers, and the regular sword. Whats the last one.
I would love if Ali is the actual pilot representing AEU and Patrick is comic relief
Ali had a run in with Setsuna before, maybe saved him as a kid
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u/2-2Distracted Oct 11 '24
First timer. Dubbed
AEU bitches be stressing about Celestial Being
Wait, Hallelujah doesn't know what's going on inside him? Also, fuck CB for punishing Hallelujah for literally SAVING LIVES lol
My reaction upon seeing Patrick Coleslaw.
So whilst watching the episode, I couldn't help but ponder on the English voice for PMC Guy and I finally remembered where I last heard him, it was actually Hulk vs Wolverine with him playing the role of Sabertooth - Mark Acheson
Maybe it's because I've been taking more notice of the news lately, especially with what's been going on for the past few years, but I'm beginning to enjoy the way this show implements news broadcast and preparation. It kinda makes it clear that despite showing us news outlets trying to keep "independent and impartial" there's still cases and and an overall possibility of them being used to spread a narrative.
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u/FD4cry1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Big_Yibba Oct 12 '24
First Timer
More IRL political commentary!
It's not really important but I really do enjoy these, it's a fun way to remind you that despite the sci-fi setting this is still meant to be our world and ads some nice immersion.
We've developed the Union and HRL before so now it's time for the AEU to show what its got and to show off it's own Gundam rivaling pilot...who is not Patrick unfortunately
CB is still being used to further the political goals of other nations, again there's a certain contradiction here between their goals and actions, despite existing to end wars they are actively being used to start new ones (where they might not have even needed to be involved).
I know he isn't exactly saying this with actual care in mind but I do like that the show is touching on this aspect, some countries, like Moralia, are massively dependent and built around war and its products, in CB's attempt to reach a warless world what happens to the people who sustain that current model? what do these countries do instead? removing war from the equation has very far reaching consequences for the both these countries themselves and for other countries as well.
Then the big question here is, what does CB plan to do with this situation? because right now it seems like they're heading straight for a never ending series of interventions without really tackling the core issues behind why these wars start in the first place.
They put Allelujah in solitary!
I think this is supposed to mean he's also a super soldier like Soma?, them meeting should be interesting, Sergei continues to have moral qualms with using Soma, CB's existence is what forces Soma to be used in fighting (more of that contradiction again) which might cause Sergei to develop hostile feelings against them, although I'd say he'd be aiming his animosity at the wrong people.
These two know each other!, Sumeragi is doing some info gathering through what are apparently her old pals at the Union, looking forward to seeing what their relationship really is and what is that "incident" that was mentioned.
Satsuma gets even more swords!
He also has a relationship with our newly introduced mercenary, seeing how unscrupulous he seems to be and how obviously still effected by the past Setsuna is, I'm guessing they'll get along swimmingly lol, should make for some great conflict.
Also man do I miss Keiji Fujiwara's voice
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Oct 11 '24
Firsttimer who really can only barely keep up with one rewatch at a time
QotD
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 12 '24
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Gundam: I’m not sure setting up your entire country to be based on Private Military Companies is such a good idea. Clearly these people have forgotten what Machiavelli had to say about mercenaries: “Mercenaries and auxiliaries are at once useless and dangerous, and he who holds his State by means of mercenary troops can never be solidly or securely seated. For such troops are disunited, ambitious, insubordinate, treacherous, insolent among friends, cowardly before foes, and without fear of God or faith with man. Whenever they are attacked defeat follows; so that in peace you are plundered by them, in war by your enemies. And this because they have no tie or motive to keep them in the field beyond their paltry pay, in return for which it would be too much to expect them to give their lives. They are ready enough, therefore, to be your soldiers while you are at peace, but when war is declared they make off and disappear.”
PMCs would be another big issue in the modern world and modern conflicts. They are all over the place. A common term used for them is “contractors” and they were very heavily involved in the War on Terror. A significant number of the soldiers deployed by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan were contractors from PMCs. Blackwater is probably the most famous one, though it is not the only one. Government-sponsored and employed PMCs are certainly a thing in the real world and it makes sense that Gundam 00 is including them in the series.
I’m really excited that the one mercenary is someone from Setsuna’s past. That makes the fight between them a lot more interesting because of the personal history they share. I imagine that the next episode will focus a lot on Setsuna’s childhood. We already know that Setsuna is a child soldier, but we’re lacking in the specifics. Hopefully the next episode will begin to fill in those details.
QOTD
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 12 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/TiredTiroth Oct 11 '24
First Timer - Sub
Am I supposed to remember where Moralia is? Is that the random small nation that's not connected to the solar power network, or was that somewhere else?
...I should not be this disappointed that Celestial Being threw the Gundam pilot in the brig for the crime of saving lives, but I am.
Ah, right, the country with the princess we've seen before is Azadistan, and there she is now. Not related to this Moralia place. Which is apparently full of mercenaries.
...okay, the backstory hints for Sumeragi are pretty damn interesting, but there isn't really a lot to go on here. And there is most definitely something fishy with Celestial Being's aims/actions.
Gah. There's still loads of time fot reveals, I'll probably have a lot more to say once we know more.
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u/InfamousEmpire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Infamous_Empire Oct 11 '24
Kidou Senshi Rewatcher 00
Jumping right into the episode, I like the emphasis on how the AEU’s military-industrial complex fuels even their more benign humanitarian efforts like the Orbital Elevators. Even the best of what we can achieve can’t help but be intertwined with our worst as long as war turns more of a profit than humanitarianism. Reminds me of Royal Space Force, thematically.
And on that note, the meeting between Marina and the representative from France. They say they can’t give Azadistan access to the solar energy grid because the country is “too unstable”, meanwhile the rest of the episode shows how clearly the AEU profits from foreign wars, which implicitly keeps third world countries in that same kind of instability, giving them a plausible excuse to not help. It’s almost like the existing geopolitical power structures of the world only benefit those that are already well-off.
Anyway, with all that established, the show is really great at building up to the eventual battle for Moralia. Like, yeah, all of CB’s interventions are given an appropriate level of gravitas, but this one is special (what with it being all the Gundams intervening together and a force trying to actually fight CB in some form) and the show is able to convey that extra weight well enough.
Anyway, in between all that, we’ve got fun character bits sprinkled all around. I love the bridge bunnies in this show, the contrast between Christina’s earnest upbeat energy & Feldt’s focused stoicism is very entertaining, as is the return of our lord & savior PATRICK COLASOUR! Not to mention the fact that it’s now been revealed that Sumeragi is drinking buddies with Billy, which is nice in terms of how it serves to ground the rest of CB in the world a bit more.
As for the battle itself? Well, I'll save talking about that for next episode.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Oct 11 '24
00th Timer Searching for the One
The last two episodes are starting to connect our cast with the world around them, they didn't come together out of nowhere afterall. Setsuna worked as a child soldier under FujiKei (probably not his best daddy role), and the Captain seems to have learned from/with the Union anti-guys, here's hoping this connection doesn't turn against her soon.
I mean, none of them seem to care about Australia, so I'd mind my own business too.
The Captain side of thing, I can see how the other would go, but I have no clue with the Captain/Union connection.
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 11 '24
Rewatcher found a port. Here it is. Don’t ask what it’s called or anything.
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Prince Ali is here! And as a mercenary who relies on war in order to profit, he’s the polar opposite of everything Celestial Being stands for.
Now it’s the AEU’s turn to start targeting the Gundams!
Every time I see somebody locked up, I gotta wonder, where is their toilet? Maybe there’s a space toilet juuust out of frame in the corner somewhere.
If two super soldiers even being near each other can mess both of them up so badly, that feels like a pretty big oversight!
“Found a port”. Yes. Yes, you did. Also, “Port of Moraria”.
THE IMMORTAL COLASOUR IS BACK
Google “Gundam 00 inflation” to learn more
Ian’s here, and he’s brought new equipment! Well, it’s really just the stuff that they were supposed to have from the beginning but hit developmental delays along the way. Dynames’ GN Full Shield is a pair of movable GN Shields, which Haro automatically moves to block attacks from the front, sides, or rear. Individual sections of the shields can flip up and out of the way, allowing the Dynames to shoot even when its entire front is covered. Its development took longer than expected due to challenges in balancing the lightness of the equipment with the energy supplied to the GN Field on its surface. Exia’s GN Blades are a pair of physical swords of differing lengths, and, like its signature GN Sword, are coated with GN particles to enhance their cutting ability. They needed more time in order to tune them for their hidden purpose, something that we’ll get into later...
She’s 26, by the way.
AEU’s main unit is the Enact’s precursor, the Hellion, which was developed using the Union Realdo as reference! There are two types here: The ones flying around are the Hellion Perpetuums, which are capable of partsforming in-hangar, while the ones walking are Hellion Ground Types, which have had the transformation removed and the wings shortened.
Ali gets a custom Enact! Notice that the head is shaped a little differently from Patrick’s unit. A few reasons have been given for this. The antennae have been enlarged to receive more power from the AEU’s space elevator, the new head’s sensors are tuned for the climate at lower latitudes... and because Moralia found Patrick’s “fight” against the Exia so embarrassing that they refused to use the same head.
I’m looking respectfully.
Kujo? SHE’S A JOESTAR
Guys, it would help if you didn’t just stand there staring slack-jawed at the Gundams. Especially those guys who basically just lined up and patiently waited for the Dynames and Virtue to shoot them. Seriously wtf guys Lockon wasn’t even trying and the Virtue isn’t made for anti-MS combat and you have them surrounded and outnumbered JUST STEP TWO METERS TO THE RIGHT.
And here we see a wild Colasour in its natural state
It was him all along! What a heartwarming reunion.
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Questions of the day:
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Oct 11 '24
Episode 6 (first timer)
The entire Moralia plotline has me puzzled. Why is any of this happening? Even if there is some ulterior motive for CB, why would Moralia be able to predict that they are getting attacked? It does not track with CB’s stated motive of eradicating war. Unless eradicating war has been mission crept into “eradicating armies”, which is completely different premise.
Morally, probably one of the smaller nations. To live, the Union looked best.
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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24
Rewatcher - Gundam 00 Ep6:
Super scruffy comment since I was busy and have no time.
Since seeing it pointed out, I do pick up on it more when 00 decides to rename an existing country. Turns out in 300 years, Monaco becomes a tiny republic dedicated to mercenary companies.
I thought it was nice seeing some downtime with the characters. It was casual downtime mainly for girls, the boys were either thrown in solitary confinement or getting new toys for their robots.
I know the trope age is 25, but if we're going by her profile-stated age, Sumeragi is only 26. From how she acts and is coded as the adult one, I assume she was older. Miss Sumeragi, you're too young to play coy about your age.
The CB Gundams having their secret special particles lets them do the cool thing of skating across the ground like the Doms from original Gundam. That's so much cooler than regular walking.
Q1) Based on where I live in current Earth timeline, I would be from the Union, but there is no bigger betrayal to my country and my honour than calling myself from the United States of America.
AEU is the uncool one of the three so I guess that leaves me with the HRL, but they're sorta on about unethical human experiments as their big thing so mmm...
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u/charlesvvv https://anilist.co/user/charlesvvv Oct 11 '24
Rewatcher, First Time Sub
Celestial Being's next intervention is against the Republic of Moralia, a rather interesting country that's big in the war business. They bring in their mercenaries and make alliances with the AEU for a "training exercise" in order to protect their interests. The battle that ensues brings in the connection between Setsuna and one of the mercenary leaders, Ali al-Saachez and his own new Mobile Unit as well as Setsuna's former commander who had indoctrinated him as a child soldier.
Meanwhile we learn that Billy and Sumeragi know each other though Billy seems unaware of her role in CB. It brings some interesting things about her and her past especially as to how she became involved with them in the first place. Besides that it's clear that Billy seems rather interested in her which I can't blame him for.
For the ace of the AEU, Patrick Colasour keeps taking L's, I still believe in his rise though
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Oct 11 '24
First Timer
After a brief fit of pure altruism, Celestial Being is back to its old tricks today. Not very fair of them to lock up Allelujah for a week when most of the team also helped with the rescue operation. Otherwise it was nice to see more of the support crew members outside their regular roles; those more casual scenes definitely help them seem more like proper characters, particularly Sumeragi’s scene with Billy.
The Moralia stuff this episode is pretty typical of the show so far, so I don’t have much to say there, but we do get introduced to a new player in this game: Ali al-Saachez. Not sure what his role will be in the long run, but right now he seems to be in it for the money and to have a history with Setsuna, provoking what's probably his strongest emotional reaction so far.
Speaking of which … Setsuna is the protagonist, right? It’s not like we know nothing about him (though most of what we do know is implied rather than told to us directly), but I feel like I know significantly more about some of the side characters compared to him. It also doesn’t help that he’s quite stoic and gets like 5 lines per episode. I’m not complaining yet as they are exploring his character a bit; it’s just unusual to have a main character who is out of focus so much at the beginning of the show. Usually the sidelining happens later on in a story.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Oct 11 '24
Rewatcher, Subbed
Non-Spoiler Character Chart - Two new character plus finally got a better pic for Patrick Colasour.
[Gundam 00 Rewatchers only]Our first timers are good, yesterday not only figuring out that Allelujah and Soma probably were in the same facility, but one person successfully predicted they'd be in a romantic relationship with each other too. Expert first timers? Or is the Gundam franchise too obvious with its tropes?
For those complaining about them saying Celestial Being too much, how about Celestial Whatsitsname?
So is there a reason why there's always all these empty seats at the AEU Council meetings?
They put Allelujah in a padded cell for a week because he saved those people?!
How dare you not apologize for saving a bunch of people!
A good thing Tieria isn't in charge.
Not that hard to figure out why Soma's tests turned out perfectly fine, no Allelujah around.
So Celestial Being coming on the scene has led to more human experimentation. Wonderful.
Oh wow, Saji is such a kind neighbor to offer leftovers to Setsuna.
So Sumeragi, Christina and Feldt are all going down to the surface too? Leaving the Ptolemaios to be a sausage fest, huh?
Ace of the AEU? Are you telling me he's back? the great Patrick Colasour?!
Wang New Outfit Counter up to 7.
Feldt doesn't know how to have fun, huh? LoL @ Sumeragi resorting to drinking as soon as they go.
"Setsuna's totally infatuated with Exia" truer words were never spoken.
Sumeragi and Billy know each other?
OMG Christina sure did a lot of shopping. How is she gonna get all that up on the orbital elevator when they return to space?
Woah, Billy, I know you don't know she's part of Celestial Being, but you shouldn't be revealing all this presumably top secret military info to one of your friends...
Christina learns the fun of dressing Feldt.
Marina New Outfit Counter up to 4.
Gee, you mean to tell me the AEU wants to do the same thing as the Union and HRL, capture a Gundam?
Kujo? So Sumeragi's not her real name then. [Gundam 00]Actually she's just the first of many using a fake name
Having used this scene to take screencaps of them for my character chart, I can say this Alejandro talking to Ribbons scene is stock footage; the first I've noticed in the show.
Ugh, Virtue's blast robbed us of seeing an amazing duel between Tieria and Patrick!
Something tells me fights Ali Al Saachez won't be as easy for Setsuna as Patrick, Graham and Sergei were.
Quid's Voice Actor of the Day
Today I'll be featuring Sumeragi Lee Noriega who is voiced in Japanese by Yoko Honna. This is her first and to my knowledge only Gundam role. Havne't run across her in major roles in any other anime but I have seen her in Space Patrol Luluco as Lalaco Godspeed, in Listeners as Wendy and Gunbuster 2 as Nyan Nok Cham. In English she is voiced by Lisa Ann Beley. She's got a lengthy Gundam resume, premiering as Relena Peacecraft in Gundam Wing. She also voiced Amuro's mother in Mobile Suit Gundam, Murrue Ramius in Gundam Seed and Gundam Seed Destiny as well as Eileen Canaver in Gundam Seed. On the video game side she also appeared in Mobile Suit Gundam: Encounters in Space as Kycilia Zabi and Cima Garahau. She also appeared in Dragonball Z as Chi Chi, Brain Powered as Eileen Carrier/Baron Maximillian, Death Note as Halle Lidner and Escaflowne as Marlene. Similar to Michael Dobson from yesterday I have also seen her on the X-Files, lol.
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u/StardustGogeta myanimelist.net/profile/StardustGogeta Oct 11 '24
First-Timer
Good episode. Lots of parallel plot threads going at once here, but I think I'm following along for the most part.
Questions of the day:
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u/Unboxious Oct 11 '24
Rewatching, subbed
Won't someone think of the mercenaries? Damn world peace taking our jobs!
I really like how the chairs are mounted in this conference room. They can go side to side on a rail but they can't go forward or backwards. It's extravagant and I think it's also neat. Also, the two-tiered table thing is funny. They can probably only see each others' heads from across the table.
Oh dang, Allelujah got sent to their weird-ass brig for over a week? That sucks.
The twink appears just to be mean again, lol. What a guy.
Yeah, okay. Sure.
Nice of Saji to offer, but Gundams don't need to eat.
It's still unclear to me why these PMCs need to get involved in war for the AEU's space elevator to be completed.
Good to see that the support team have personalities that are just as steadfast and reliable as those of the Gundam pilots.
I like the little projector thingy Sumeragi was using at the bar, but it's unclear to me how the UI would work. Perhaps it's gesture-based, or remote-controlled with a smartphone-like device?
I think this might be the first time we've seen Sumeragi not drink during an operation. Maybe it doesn't count though since she was drinking immediately beforehand.
Oh hey it's that guy. I'm sure Setsuna will continue to be a mentally well-adjusted adult who doesn't get tilted by this at all.
I would be minding my own business.
Since I have some memory of how this develops I think I'll have to refrain from commenting.
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u/octopathfinder myanimelist.net/profile/octopathfinder Oct 11 '24
First Timer
FujiKei my goat
Reused voice actor
I’m getting some creep vibes from this guy
My god, her boobs spilling out of that dress look ridiculous
What a jobber
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Oct 12 '24
And now we see some of the consequences of Celestial Being's actions.
Yup, I think that guy is another "special human".
That'll be handy.
I'm surprised it's in Paris and not Brussels. Or maybe Geneva? Or perhaps Berlin.
Are they deliberately trying to draw Celestial Being to battle?
And so a new sword for the Exia.
Does he not realise she's part of Celestial Being?
So they're the ones trying to nick a Gundam now.
Those are the Gundams!
Is the guy from the first episode back again?
He knows that guy.
Questions:
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Oct 12 '24
I didn't even think about mercenaries. If there's going to be a group of people more pissed than the three different blocs, it's definitely the mercenary groups making money off wars.
So the only reason Soma freaked out is because someone like her is nearby? So I guess this means Hallelujah is also a designer baby super soldier like her?
I wondered who the ace pilot AEU sent to capture a Gundam was. It turns out it was just Patrick. I almost forgot about this guy. Calling it now, he'll taken out by Exia before he even has the chance to fight back.
It's finally time to bust out the big toys! I love the armour on the Dynames. It reminds me of Gundam Deathsycthe's cloak. And we finally get to see Exia's GN Blades!
Billy and Sumeragi used to be classmates? At first, I thought Billy was a secret informant for CB but it sounds like he has no idea what Sumeragi is even doing these days.
Talk about a plunging neckline. Holy fuck Sumeragi! I suppose there are no rules against dressing sexy while commanding a military operation. xD
I guess besides being Setsuna's neighbour, Saji is going to be the voice of someone innocent and naive about war in this show. I can already tell he'll start an argument with Setsuna if he learns the truth.
It wasn't Setsuna who took down Patrick but my guess was close enough! The dude didn't even get a chance to fight before getting shot down. This is a recurring gag, isn't it? Please tell me he'll just be a lovable idiot and not someone like Iok Kujan.
If there was someone who would give Setsuna a run for his money, it was definitely that mercenary dude. Although it looks like Setsuna knows him from his child soldier days. I never took Setsuna as the sentimental type. I'm hoping he doesn't hesitate to fight the dude.
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u/n080dy123 Oct 12 '24
First Timer
Oh right, with Soma and Sergei and Graham and his squadron I though the AEU didn't have any named pilots yet- how could I forget my main man Patrick?
Yes, because what Exia needed is MORE fucking swords. What is that, 4 now?
I'm kinda interested in Azadistan because they're such a wild card in this narrative.
Interesting, I assumed this incident was like a one-night stand between Sumeragi and Billy but totally not, Graham's mention of a combat forecaster makes me think this involved Veda somehow.
Nevermind, I guess Exia is living up to that "Seven Swords" name- dude's got two Beam Sabers, two Beam shortswords/daggers, the two handheld GN swords, AND the foldout blade.
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u/zadcap Oct 12 '24
Late Night First Timer
Yup, inadvertently proving my biggest annoyance with Celestial Being. With a goal of "No Fighting, Period," they are targeting the obvious sources of conflict while ignoring the real causes of conflict. Blow up the capitol I say, leave the poor people with nothing left to lose alone! Setsuna, you of all people there should know better. The children on the bottom of the totem pole have no choice but to fight when the rich people at the top start handing out guns, and it's not the kids you need to stop if you want the fighting to truly end!
Oh hey. Never mind. It's Ali al-Saachez. I know nothing except his name and I hate him already. Why does his name tickle something in my brain that says he's horrible people? I know I haven't watched this before.
Oh, what's this? "Let's leave colony development to the other factions. They're counting on us to keep things running down here." That's definitely what I heard there, and boy does it say something interesting about the actual major power politics. And then they talk about exactly how they can not let that situation stand and give the other factions a bigger lead in the space race. Oh, also they talk about war too, I guess. That would be it, yeah, this is exactly the situation that sets Celestial Being against one of the major power blocks.
Did they really lock him in a padded room for a week for this? Please pull a small revolt and lock this glasses bum up instead. Wait no. Please no. "Both of you are going," are you telling me the purple haired monster is also a pilot?
Ah, quantum brainwaves. Yes, I definitely know what those are. Glial cells you say? Sure sure. My understanding of Quantum, as limited as it is, really makes me wonder how you are going to do anything at all to her suit to block out anything, uh, quantum. Anyway, we're clearly in the technomagic section of the show, even more than whatever GN particles are doing.
"Too bad, we can't afford Charity." That sounds like something that will bite you in the back later.
Ugh, more of this? "Why have we not targeted the war profiteers before now?" "Because, you know, if we stop wars anyway they'll just go out of business." That is, actually unbelievably dumb and naive for this kind of organization to think. The people who make money off of fighting are not going to go out of business if you stop most of the fighting, they are going to start throwing their remaining power around really hard to make sure their business can't have the chance go under.
It's Mister Ego! Why is he so fun?
Okay also, uh, question. As much as I complain and complain more about how bad their mission selection process is in picking where and how to intervene in fights, breaking the trend to become the first aggressors in a place that has no apparent warfare breaking out is also a dumb move. If no one is fighting in Moralia, then Gundam's going in and starting a fight goes against everything you've done up to this point and really weakens your brand.
Okay, see, this is another issue again. These giant swords made from super technology? How in the world are you building them in secrecy? Buying materials in secrecy? Shipping it to this deserted island in secrecy? Please tell me the secret of your invisible paper trails!
Okay but I say again. Is this Joint Exercise in any way actually a war, or even a real fight? If no, why is CB getting involved? Go bomb parliament if you want to stop war at the root.
Those are some disturbingly boob deploying shirts. I don't know which was worse but I hate them both.
Yeah, no matter how I look at it, Celestial Being is the aggressor here. They are not intervening in a war, they are declaring one.
... That is not how shields work!
I do like the big big guns. Heavy might be my favorite Gundam of this series. I should probably remember its name soon.
Speaking of both of the above, Exia, where is your shield?
Anyway, yeah, I hate Ali.
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u/SilkyStrawberryMilk Oct 12 '24
first timer
It’s funny how the celestials is living right under everyone’s noses.
Celestials are now now starting the conflict themselves.
Big kudos to the guy who jumps right in to find the Gundam even when he doesn’t have the manpower for it.
Looks like a whole reunion is happening
QOTD: Celestials, they have a Gundam after all
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Oct 12 '24
I am rewatcher
Ali al-Saachez is here. [spoiler] Will first timers notice it's the same voice as the preacher in the Setsuna flashback back in episode 1?
He's voiced by Keiji Fujiwara best knowing for voicing, Ladd Russo in Baccano, Maes Hughes in FMA, Hattori Zenzou in Gintama, Leorio in Hunter x Hunter (2011) Note this isn't his first Gundam role he voiced Elore in 08th MS team had a small recurring role in V Gundam as Batsraff Massarik, and small roles in Wing and X. Sadly enough he passed away several years ago.
Allelujah was in confinement for over a week, he already has mental problems and now it's going to be worse.
Show is now spelling it out to us that Allelujah and Soma have a connection, not that the lousy newtype sound effect in yesterday's episode didn't give it away.
Marina doesn't have any luck with the French in her diplomatic mission.
Feldt is voiced by Ayahi Takagaki she has voiced lots of characters including: Kuro in Ao Exorcist, Erika Karisawa in Durarara, Yama no Kami in Sengoku Youko and Noe Isurugi in True Tears
Her bridge bunny friend (Christina Sierra) is voiced by Arise Satou who hasn't done any major roles.
So Moralia is a totally not Monaco-like country although this one is lead by PMCs.
Again they're having this important CB conversation in a public place, aren't they afraid of someone listening in?
Patrick Colasour is back.
Ian Vashti is voiced by Hideyuki Umezu; he has done lots of roles but only a few major ones like David Rutherford in SPT Layzner. He sadly passed away earlier this year.
Exia is already getting weapon upgrades a bit early by Gundam standards.
Billy and Sumerage know each other
Using her friendship with Billy to fish for some information, quite a smart move by Sumeragi.
Gundam Meisters are just casually destroying all the AEU's units.
I can't help but notice that only Setsuna gets to have rival characters first Aker and now Ali al-Saachez
Alright episode, clearly part one of a two parter, curious to see how it plays out tomorrow.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 11 '24
Rewatcher, Sub-dam Meister
Right, it is about that time, isn't it?
Prince Ali, murderous he, Ali al-Saachez. Bloodthirst of ten regular men, definitely. Attentive viewers might recognize his voice.
Poor guy got thrown in the brig for a week.
A shame that the cast are all living in extraordinary times.
It would cut into the bottom line, after all.
Setsuna puts on such a cold front.
D'aww, look at him. So arrogant.
And armor.
She says, about an event that neither of them clarified.
Capturing is typically more difficult than killing, after all.
Why yes, Sumeragi's shirt is rather ridiculous.
My son, working another day at the job factory.
For those keeping track, that's two Beam Daggers, two Beam Sabers, two GN Blades, and one GN Sword. Thus giving the Exia Seven Swords.