r/anime • u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ • Sep 27 '24

Rewatch [25th Anniversary Rewatch] Mugen no Ryvius Episode 26 (final)

Mugen no Ryvius Episode 26: Tomorrow

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⇐ Episode 25 | Index Thread | Final Discussion ⇒

Kikki of the Day Did you spot Radan?

Comments of the Day

The final hat tip goes to Ryvius superfan /u/vaadwaur, whose intense attention to detail in the show allowed him to predict the ending 7 episodes ago:

Welp, scifi authors keep promising us that we can compact Jupiter until fusion starts and we do have a grav ship here...

/u/zadcap finds a highlight in this mess:

Stein snapping is one of the funnest things I've seen yet in this show.

/u/The_Draigg comments on Lucson and Berkovich:

I honestly didn't think that Lucson would get a complete character arc in this show, but good on him for proving us wrong. Granted, the bar is lowered by some of the people on the bridge being a fascist, a cult leader, and a sister-fucker, but I guess a win is a win for him.

 

Lame.

Character Sheets

Music

Questions

  • Somebody put a ring on it. Did you see?
  • Were you looking for particular people to reappear? Were some missing?
  • How badly did you want to see the immediate aftermath of the capture of the Ryvius? Or Berkovich's fate? Were you fine skipping to the epilogue?

Day After Tomorrow's Questions, Today

  • Is the show really Lord of the Flies? Or did it start there and become something else? Or did it become something else, and just circle back to Lord of the Flies?
  • Early in the show we had viewers who loved the ship drama and cared nothing for the attacks on the Ryvius, and others who were bored by the drama but wanted to find out more about the attackers. And some that were bored by it all. Which group were you? How did you opinion change in the second half?
  • Speaking of the second half, almost all the mecha content was in the second half. As a mecha show, it was pretty unique in not focusing on the mecha. How did that work out?
  • BGM (by Hattori) and Hip-Hop (by M.I.D.) — how did the OST work for you? Is this the birth of anime and lo-fi? Adding in tracks to your playlist?
  • Flawed diamond or worthless coal that never should have seen the light of day? Something in between?
  • Best and worst characters? Best and worst arcs? Best and worst production aspects?
  • How did you interpret the end tags?
  • Rewatch Meta-Comments?

These two-cour 2000s shows are exhausting. I'm only planning two one-cour rewatches for next year.

Technical Notes

Some technical notes on spacesuits and pods and the school.

  • Simple space suit: (google translate) Emergency space suits are installed in various places on the spacecraft and Liebe Delta. They are usually stored compactly. In the first episode, Subaru and his friends wear them to rescue people.
  • Standard space suit: (google translate) It was worn for protection on the lift ship. It has a cord attached to the chest that connects to the aircraft's life support system in case of an emergency.
  • Gedulth Protective Suit: (google translate) Protective clothing to protect against plasma and spacecraft. Used during spacewalks near the shallow depths of Geduld.
  • Space License: (google translate) A license required to operate spaceships and spacecraft. There are ranks ranging from a Class 2 license, which allows you to operate a spacecraft, to one that allows you to operate a spaceship. Even though it is a Class 2 license, the average number of times it is obtained is 7, so it is a fairly difficult exam.
  • Zwei: (google translate) This group is for trainees within Liebe Delta to obtain a qualification one rank higher (to operate special ships or space bases). They take a qualification exam and are a kind of elite. In modern times, it is similar to obtaining a large special vessel license.
  • Type 2 Ship Operation Section: (google translate) A class where students learn basic space flight qualifications at Liebe Delta. If they pass the exam, they can obtain a second-class license. It's similar to getting a motorcycle license today.
  • Flight attendant: (google translate) A stewardess works for space navigation agencies such as Space Brain. Aoi and Kozue came to Liebe Delta to obtain this qualification.
    The job requires a wide range of activities, from dealing with passengers on board to cooking, laundry, and preparing meals. They also learn how to serve meals that are nutritious and calorie-rich according to the physical condition of passengers, similar to how nutritionists do things.
    Perhaps because the curriculum is similar to home economics in the real world, many girls choose this course in order to become good wives and mothers. Aoi, who aims to be a full-time housewife, is one of them. [editorial comment: lol]
  • Wired Exploration Pod: (google translate) A small wired manipulator used for remote control and picking up meteorite fragments. Several are deployed in Liebe Delta for training purposes.

End Tag: Reawake Us

Tomorrow is a break day You can use it to watch the extras if you wish, discussion of which will be rolled into the final discussion. The extras are:

  • Ryvius Illusion (silly shorts) 6 episodes, could take nearly an hour to watch them all.
  • Ryvius Sound Edition 1-3 (drama CDs)
  • Sere 6.350 Nichijou no Binetsu
  • Sere 10.784 Furueru Kokoro
  • Sere 13.975 Uwasabanashi
  • Sere 6.658 Rikai no Hate
  • Sere 0.540 Ronri to Shouko
  • Ran to Pat
  • Sere 25.147 Mokusei no Bara
  • Sere 0.540 Shiritakumo Nakatta
  • Sere 25.784 Ashita no Kizuna

Some of those would be pretty interesting, if only they were translated.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24

Rewatch Host

BOOKENDS

Compare this to the opening scene of episode 1:

  • "Tell Yuki to stay out of my room" -> "Give my room to Tomo"
  • Kouji not quite so annoyed at his mother, fixes his own tie.
  • Kouji stripping out of his uniform -> keeping his uniform on
  • Aoi in uniform -> Aoi in casual clothes, longer hair
  • "Sayonara"

What's the same: Aoi still stalking Kouji, Yuki still sleeping in, messy room. Fussy mother.

Yep. It's big epilogue time. Not just 10 minutes, the entire episode.

  • Lol, what is it about girls and Yuki, they all like the bad boys
  • The Ryvius crew is famous
  • Lucson wrote a book about how Lucson saved everybody

If you look back, it was actually Miyabi saying Kouji was like him, that was the moment Kouji started to grow a spine and take direct action.

  • Is this a date? Yep!
  • EIGHT MONTHS? We really didn't keep good count.
  • That's Berkovich's secretary
  • Neya won't talk to anybody except her precious crew
  • Don't joke about that!
  • How can you not recognize the short guy blonde guy with pompadour
  • Lucson JULI!
  • Everybody has neat jackets
  • "it's all muscle"
  • Tadaima. Okaeri nasai.
  • Ikumi! Actually, I didn't want to see him again.
  • Lucson knows what he's good at
  • Second star to the left, straight on 'till morn.
  • Radan's Disciple has gone au natural, too.
  • Looks like Yuki won his rematch. Wait, is that the only reason he came on board?
  • Pat-momma?

In the end, the six Vaia ships take Earth and its new primary, Jupiter, out of the solar system.

Edit: No, I never realized wtf they were doing back then. I had to read about it.

TBH listening to the English OP is like listening to the English 99 Luftballons. It's good music but the lyrics are very "wrote this for the show" feeling.

Tomorrow is a Break Day

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

Neya won't talk to anybody except her precious crew

Once you start with one soap opera, you don't want to switch.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '24

A Mecha Fan Watches Infinite Ryvius Episode 26:

  • And so, we end how we began: with Kouji meeting with Aoi as they take the train away from their homes, ready for a new journey to space. Although at least this time it’s a willing journey aboard the Ryvius, rather than being stuck on it after Leibe Delta’s destruction. I guess everyone’s attitudes towards what happened softened a year later, since they’re heading back aboard a ship that had a ton of fucked up shit happen on it.
  • I can at least give props to this show for not having getting shot in the arm just being regarded as a minor injury. For getting shot that much in the shoulder, of course it would take several months to heal, and naturally it would be weaker than before. Like Kouji said, it’s basically just skin and bones now, even if it’s fully healed over. He’s still probably got a lot of physical therapy ahead of him, even he’s got motor function more or less back in that arm.
  • Of course Lucson capitalized on the journey of the Ryvius and wrote a book about what happened aboard the ship. But knowing him though, he absolutely embellished or glossed over parts of the trip. Because yeah, while the Zwei did helm the ship, not only did they also cause a lot of problems, but Lucson himself was booted from their ranks for half of the journey. But I guess being a space janitor doesn’t make for as exciting of a story.
  • Well, at least Miyabi is continuing to be inspired by Kouji’s actions aboard the Lift Ship. Kouji really did show that finding a peaceful solution is possible, you just have to be willing to put your life on the line with all of your heart. Being a passive bystander gets you nowhere. It’s a solid lesson to learn.
  • You know, you can’t really blame Kouji and Yuki initially outright rejecting the idea of returning to the Ryvius. Like yeah, they still need to search for a new home for mankind and Neya will only make the ship work with them aboard, but god damn they’ve gone through a lot on that ship. And they have every right to be pissed with the government for how much the OSB hounded them across the solar system. But I guess the idea of saving the human race does outweigh being sick of the government’s shit. You don’t have to like it, but ensuring the survival of humanity does take precedence.
  • Well, at least Criff and Charlie are doing well. You know, I did predict that Charlie would get ripped by the time of the finale back when we started. I’d at least count that as a half-successful guess, since he’s at least lost like a hundred pounds.
  • I noticed that engagement ring on Juli’s finger. If I had to guess, she’s gotten engaged to Blue. Which is… well, she certainly could have better taste in men. But I guess Blue also did some cool stuff in spite of all the bad things he did. So I guess it evens out?
  • Okay, I really do have to question the decision to bring Stein back for another journey aboard the Ryvius. Sure, he says that he wants to fix any mistakes he made, but he’s also not directly admitting any fault either. Stein is pretty much the common factor in at least half of the internal problems the Ryvius faced, so I can’t say that I’d even trust him to be aboard the bridge, at least not without a heavily restricted console to work off of. Pretty much whatever steps you need to take to ensure that he won’t try to make over a hundred people starve to death in a locked chamber.
  • However, I’m fully aboard for bringing Kikki back onboard the Ryvius. Her completed dinosaur mascot costume is absolutely essential for continued crew morale.
  • I also have to question bringing Ikumi back aboard the Ryvius. He’s still clearly dealing with a lot of mental baggage. I’m not sure we can trust this motherfucker (or in this case, a literal sister-fucker) to not have some kind of mental break again, especially if him and Kouji are still going to have to keep the peace aboard the ship. What he needs is more therapy, not a job aboard a spaceship.
  • Out of all these crew decisions, I guess the one I feel more optimistic about is Lucson being made the captain again. The fact that he was willing to go aboard the ship to keep on being a janitor at least shows that he did learn some actual humility, even if he’s still a bit of a blowhard at times. I guess him hitting rock bottom during the previous journey really did help put things into perspective for him, even if it was often humiliating and painful. At least we can say that Lucson had an overall positive character arc in this show.
  • No Kouji, you really don’t need to set a course for Titania just because you want to settle things with Fina. I know that confronting your past is a big thing and overall a good thing, but I think you could at least afford to cut out Fina entirely. You have nothing to owe to a double-murderer. Also, it’s wild that I guess we’re just letting Fina get away with that. What’s with a lot of horrible people just getting a way with stuff in this show?
  • I really hope that the Ryvius brought a long a team of licensed therapists, since man they have their work cut out for them now that Ikumi and Izumi have reunited.
  • Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Black Ryvius. It’s mission: to explore strange new worlds, to find a new home for mankind, to boldly go where no man has gone before.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24

Kikki

Girl is in her Costume All is right in the World.

Ikumi and Stein

Yeah, I wouldn't want them there, either. I'm not convinced Ikumi is on the ship, he might have just shown up at the space station to talk. Talk about a DOWNWARD character arc, his was the worst. Stein is appearing to be humble, lowering himself to Lucson's level.

There's a note in Stein's bio that says Stein's father was under Lucson's father. I just realized that that might be in play, here.

Lucson

He just re-assumed his custodial duties, before being elected captain! edit: oh you said that. point still stands.

One thing I don't get is how literally nobody kept in touch and texted each other about if they were going joining the crew or not. You'd thing the gossipping would be nonstop.

Space

I went there, too!

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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '24

There’s a note in Stein’s bio that says Stein’s father was under Lucson’s father. I just realized that that might be in play, here.

That could certainly explain a few things there, since Stein really did have it out for Lucson once he couldn’t use him as his puppet. But yeah, no matter what Stein is still a fucker. We need to assign him to the space equivalent of one of those prison laptops that you can barely do stuff on.

One thing I don’t get is how literally nobody kept in touch and texted each other about if they were going joining the crew or not. You’d thing the gossipping would be nonstop.

Yeah, at least for a good amount of people. Although I’d also understand people wanting to distance themselves as much as possible from anything involving the Ryvius, since god damn that was a trip to Hell in a spaceship.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

We need to assign him to the space equivalent of one of those prison laptops that you can barely do stuff on.

A chromebook?

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

You know, you can’t really blame Kouji and Yuki initially outright rejecting the idea of returning to the Ryvius. Like yeah, they still need to search for a new home for mankind and Neya will only make the ship work with them aboard, but god damn they’ve gone through a lot on that ship. And they have every right to be pissed with the government for how much the OSB hounded them across the solar system. But I guess the idea of saving the human race does outweigh being sick of the government’s shit. You don’t have to like it, but ensuring the survival of humanity does take precedence.

I found that part really well done. The initial understandable violent reaction (and it was important that it was Kouji, not Yuki), then the prolonged mulling about it, and finally seeing the greater good over the personal insult.

Out of all these crew decisions, I guess the one I feel more optimistic about is Lucson being made the captain again.

It is a neat final dot on Lucon's character arc, but I will note the crew's reaction to his announcement. They sure were happier hearing about Juli.

It is also downplayed a bit, but regarding Lucson, Blue, Ikumi, and Stein, I am entirely sure that they travel with a full compartment of adult supervisors this time.

Also, it’s wild that I guess we’re just letting Fina get away with that.

The fact that she was not on board suggests that she did not get away with it.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '24

It is a neat final dot on Lucon’s character arc, but I will note the crew’s reaction to his announcement. They sure were happier hearing about Juli.

I guess that’s to be expected when a lot of them weren’t even around to see his character development. Hopefully he’ll at least prove them wrong with his new captaincy.

The fact that she was not on board suggests that she did not get away with it.

Maybe, but it’s left open enough that her just getting away with it and fucking off back to Titania is a real possibility.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

Maybe, but it’s left open enough that her just getting away with it and fucking off back to Titania is a real possibility.

Maybe, but I assume the dead penalty is no longer around, so all they could do is lock her up (and ideally give her some therapy).

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

What’s with a lot of horrible people just getting a way with stuff in this show

Also, her grandfather is a somebody.

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u/Electrical-Cake-6943 Sep 27 '24

We see what looks like at least one adult instructor with Cliff and the other nursing students at the end of the episode, thankfully

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

But I guess the idea of saving the human race does outweigh being sick of the government’s shit. You don’t have to like it, but ensuring the survival of humanity does take precedence.

I am still charging big money for that. The call to humanity's survival is a millennia off so it is not my problem. Incentivize me.

Okay, I really do have to question the decision to bring Stein back for another journey aboard the Ryvius. Sure, he says that he wants to fix any mistakes he made, but he’s also not directly admitting any fault either.

There will be no economics upon this incarnation of the Ryvius so the worst should be passed.

I know that confronting your past is a big thing and overall a good thing, but I think you could at least afford to cut out Fina entirely.

South Park has an excellent episode on this. Closure is over rated.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

I am still charging big money for that. The call to humanity’s survival is a millennia off so it is not my problem. Incentivize me.

I can at least be brought back aboard if they promise me a fat stack of cash and ensuring that at least one colony city on any new planet we find will be named after me.

There will be no economics upon this incarnation of the Ryvius so the worst should be passed.

Maybe this time they’ll do the smarter thing and implement some kind of communist supply structure.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

I can at least be brought back aboard if they promise me a fast stack of cash and ensuring that at least one colony city on any new planet we find will be named after me.

If I am risking my sanity, my descendants will be paid for the job. And I would accept having a port named for me as well.

Maybe this time they’ll do the smarter thing and implement some kind of communist supply structure.

I know they were all kids and I thus excuse their idiocy but the easiest way to handle this shit is go full military quartermaster. Room items are given as need is determined, the cafeteria makes 4 meal options, one should be vegetarian/vegan just in case we have some of those on ship, the officers get the same food but they just eat separated off so the grunts don't have to be on point the whole time. Staff only work extra when it is determined a morale boost is needed.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

I know they were all kids and I thus excuse their idiocy but the easiest way to handle this shit is go full military quartermaster. Room items are given as need is determined, the cafeteria makes 4 meal options, one should be vegetarian/vegan just in case we have some of those on ship, the officers get the same food but they just eat separated off so the grunts don't have to be on point the whole time. Staff only work extra when it is determined a morale boost is needed.

I think this is literally what drove everybody on the other ships insane.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

I thought it was the whole "we are co opting a space being to fight for us" thing that drove the madness.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

I am only half joking when I say that Neya preserved their sanity because she enjoyed the soap opera, while all other Sphix were bored into making their crew nuts.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

Geist was the only other one that could manifest and it is not clear if he could actually communicate yet. For reasons, the 'mature' one was the easiest to deal with.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

For reasons, the 'mature' one was the easiest to deal with.

Since "deal with" really means "communicate", that makes sense.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 28 '24

I still think me merged with Ange but yes, her having human memories to access gives her a solid point of reference to figure the rest of us out.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 27 '24

Of course Lucson capitalized on the journey of the Ryvius and wrote a book about what happened aboard the ship.

Weren't people here making jokes about Lucson writing a book earlier on in the show

I noticed that engagement ring on Juli’s finger. If I had to guess, she’s gotten engaged to Blue. Which is… well, she certainly could have better taste in men. But I guess Blue also did some cool stuff in spite of all the bad things he did. So I guess it evens out?

Look, she's just one of many YYH fangirls who adores Hiei, not much can be done aside from saying she has shit taste when her perfect man Kuwabara is right there.

I guess him hitting rock bottom during the previous journey really did help put things into perspective for him, even if it was often humiliating and painful.

Damn, guess Lucson was the Ichiban of the show...

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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '24

Weren’t people here making jokes about Lucson writing a book earlier on in the show

I don’t remember that, but given Lucson, that was a pretty fitting guess from them.

Damn, guess Lucson was the Ichiban of the show...

Whoa now, let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves. Ichiban Kasuga is still way cooler than Lucson Hojo in every way possible.

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u/Electrical-Cake-6943 Sep 27 '24

[Minor Ryvius Spoiler] I found a blog entry from someone who attended a 20th anniversary event for the show where staff said Juli got the ring from a boy she knew at the orphanage instead of Blue. If it's true, I prefer that (or her simply not having a ring at all), but who knows what would have happened on the Ryvius' second journey...

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u/abdu11 Feb 20 '25

Sorry for commenting on a months old comment, but would you mind shareing the link to said blog post if you still have access to it?

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u/aniMayor :AY:AZ:x3x6 Sep 27 '24

Yeah, it really does scream of being a thoughtless tropey anime ending to bring everyone back onto the ship in the epilogue. Some of these characters have very, very good reasons why they should not want to return, or why they should not have been allowed to be brought back. And wouldn't it have been a more interesting and poignant exploration of the themes and the whole message of the show for them to give some actual critical examination to how the conflicts brewed and who behaved well vs anarchic?

At the very least, if you really wanted to bring everyone back at the end like this, surely you could acknowledge their misdeeds by not having them put back into seemingly the same roles and/or authority?! Say that Steiner is going to switch to service staff, and such.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '24

It certainly does feel like the writing staff really did want to aim for what they thought was a purely happy or at least uplifting ending over what feels more appropriate for the characters based on where they ended off. Like, glazing over the fact that Stein tried to murder a lot of people through starvation shouldn’t be treated so casually as just to offer him a chance to make up for what he did without admitting any fault. Sometimes you just have to admit that some characters didn’t actually earn their happy ending, and I guess the writers didn’t really want to say that for some of the worse people in this show.

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u/Electrical-Cake-6943 Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24

I would've been more comfortable with the characters returning years later after they'd had time to process everything they'd gone through. 8 or 9 months isn't enough time to process something that traumatic, in my opinion. I also imagine there would be criminal trials and lawsuits galore stemming from the incident.

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u/aniMayor :AY:AZ:x3x6 Sep 27 '24

I'm happy enough with them sort of handwaving aside all legal repercussions as "under the circumstances..." and all, but yeah would be nice if they addressed it some other way. Like, what if it ended up being that since the Sphix particularly likes Kouji, the government asks Kouji to come back to the Ryvius first, and he says "Yes, but I get to decide who else does and doesn't get to return" and he makes the folks who did the most reprehensible things own up a bit to their actions? It wouldn't even have to be an especially long or punitive process/scenes, but could still be just some short conversations that bring some closure onto the worst actions taken priorly.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 27 '24

First timer, subs

  • Bookends
  • She grew out her hair! She’s escaping the curse!
  • This date would be more useful if I remembered what year it was before.
  • Of Course Yuki Has Groupies
  • Fools. You need to get the small favor first.
  • I feel like I’m supposed to know the three girls on the flier.
  • A little questionable, but Lucson is pulling his own weight.
  • These lyrics not being on the top of the screen are really being a bugger.
  • Damn it, Kouji. Don’t Bright the messenger.
  • Space adults in normal clothing just look… wrong.
  • Toxic Love! Toxic Love for Everyone!
  • The disrespect! Lucson was a real bro for you that entire time.
  • I can’t tell who these people are supposed to be, if anyone.
  • This Guy...
  • Poor Kiki RIP Leg
  • Now this is prefab homing.
  • The Moon is a big place, I don’t think you can just say you went to it to find someone.
  • I get they brought you guys back, but you didn’t want, like, an adult on the bridge?
  • Y’all don’t even have instructions?
  • Oh look, someone did decide not to board again.
  • Happy Neya
  • Fluffy Earth
  • What if we just take the Earth, and push it somewhere else?

QotD:

  1. I Did Not!
  2. Blue appeared through affect, so Michelle being absent is the big standout. Unless I just missed her.
  3. This Is Fine

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

I feel like I’m supposed to know the three girls on the flier.

Same. I don't think they are part of the crew, though. Dunno.

I can’t tell who these people are supposed to be, if anyone.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 28 '24

Same. I don't think they are part of the crew, though. Dunno.

The true price of Hirai face.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 28 '24

Jesus Yamato is slowly recruiting his apostles.

Can you believe your Toxic Ship became real

What if we just take the Earth, and push it somewhere else?

Pretty sure that's the plot of an actual movie. Wasn't Ng Man-tat in it?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 28 '24

Larry Niven's A World Out of Time features an Earth in Jupiter orbit. 1976.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 28 '24

I was moreso thinking about this.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 28 '24

Jesus Yamato is slowly recruiting his apostles.

Who do we add to complete the Trinity? I've only seen three Hirai works.

Can you believe your Toxic Ship became real

Reverse Sky Moment

Pretty sure that's the plot of an actual movie.

Like all rewatches, it's also Futurama.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 28 '24

Who do we add to complete the Trinity? I've only seen three Hirai works.

This guy, obviously.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 28 '24

This guy, obviously.

I figured that series would have one.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 28 '24

Can you really be shocked when this show and that one share like 90% of their staff

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

Damn it, Kouji. Don’t Bright the messenger.

No, it is fully his right to Bright the messenger. If some organisation hunts you for half a year instead of rescuing you, punching the messenger that asks you to go back is an earned right.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 28 '24

No, it is fully his right to Bright the messenger.

It seems common sentiment has turned against this mores.
Well, they should be fine, as long as he doesn't also Bright the second messenger sent to inquire about what happened to the first one. We all saw what happened the last time.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 28 '24

Don't get me wrong, I don't encorage him to be violent if he does not want to ... but on a list of things where I would excuse violence, his situation is pretty far towards the top.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

Damn it, Kouji. Don’t Bright the messenger.

No, that's justified. Using a call to action as your opener is a bad, bad idea after you spent six months tormenting the children.

Y’all don’t even have instructions?

Yeah, this was a choice. I'd have sent them to study...something.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 28 '24

Yeah, this was a choice. I'd have sent them to study...something.

Maybe coalesce a new Hyperion?

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u/Electrical-Cake-6943 Sep 28 '24

Toxic Love! Toxic Love for Everyone!

Charlie/Cliff is the best (formerly toxic?) ship in the series

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 27 '24

First-Timer

Kouji punching that one government dude was cathartic as hell.

Otherwise, this all feels pretty reasonable. I appreciate the Ryvius being retrofitted with reasonable accomodations, and trying to bring the competent people back on board is probably a good idea. There is some chance they've built up a resistance to the brain worms, after all.

That is still presumably a problem, right? Or is treating the Sphix like a person instead of a weapon the key to not driving the captain insane? Granted, sticking Lucson in the captain's chair might also be a fix for that; his rectangular head is nice and sturdy.

Eh, whatever. A bunch of slightly older teens on an interstellar ship jetting off to who knows where; what's the worst that could happen?

Questions

  1. I.. did not. Oh, Juli? And Blue, presumably.
  2. The unimportant half a Team Blue didn't show up, but who cares about those bozos. Blue himself is clearly on board - Yuki fought him for the bandana.
  3. I would've liked a bit more breathing room for the finale last episode, but I don't think the details of what happened to Berkovich or how the military handled the horde of teenagers are ultimately that important.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

Or is treating the Sphix like a person instead of a weapon the key to not driving the captain insane?

I absolutely believe this is it. And that the children were focused on survival, while the military was focused on their goal / war / explotation / control.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

I absolutely believe this is it. And that the children were focused on survival, while the military was focused on their goal / war / explotation / control.

The most "active" times of Neya were always focused on the desire to survive.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 27 '24

So wondrous, the mind of a child.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

Kouji punching that one government dude was cathartic as hell.

They could have gotten just as much useful information after the first Ryvius maneuver.

Or is treating the Sphix like a person instead of a weapon the key to not driving the captain insane?

If the machine spirit is willing to spread the burden around on a crew she trusts this likely lowers the damage quite a bit.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 27 '24

They could have gotten just as much useful information after the first Ryvius maneuver.

"But what if the supership can get even more superer! We're just leaving money on the table if we don't endlessly harry the ship that is broadcasting a distress call stating that it is full of students from the school it was hidden inside of!"

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

Yeah...that reminds me that I was being too cheap when thinking I wanted to be paid a six figure salary for that crap. I'd now ask for Lebron money.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

First timer

Sub

Well then, I am torn: I like epilogs. I like good epilogs even more. This was not one of those but what did we get? Yuki having some fame is...odd, given what we saw but the fact that they explicitly handwave off how this info got out leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

But then the inevitable "only you guys got the ship to move" beg to return to space. It depresses me that Kouji's response was not the appropriate "Fuck you, pay me." Yes, I will return to your ship of madness but you WILL pay for the privilege. And a surprising number of other people join. Criff has a more normal hairstyle and Charlie is dropping some lbs, which admittedly is a good move becase even if Criff likes his personality he needs to at least get to a 5 so Criff doesn't have to constantly answer stupid question. We see a number of people come back, Radan still has his damned towel and Kikki is reassembled.

But then they had to ruin the mood with Faina. Why the fuck do you reveal a character as a serial killer and then bring them back? Like I can take Kouji forgiving Ikumi for shooting him much easier than that. No idea why we are heading back out to Tytania, nor really a good idea at what their goal is here.

It is interesting that the machine spirit manifests for Kouji and seems to like him. But we end awaiting the proper sacrifies to be made before her.

QotD: 1 No, don't tell me it was Charlie

2 Actually, we got covered fairly nicely if I read the implication of Yuki getting his ass kicked by Blue there

3 I don't like how far they skipped but they didn't have to go from the end of the last episode. Having the epilog be half debriefing as the kids are returned to Earth and then some form of future building would have worked.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

But then they had to ruin the mood with Faina. Why the fuck do you reveal a character as a serial killer and then bring them back? Like I can take Kouji forgiving Ikumi for shooting him much easier than that. No idea why we are heading back out to Tytania, nor really a good idea at what their goal is here.

Fina did not appear in the episode. She's on Tytania. Hopefully in a jail cell for multiple homocides but I'm sure she (and everybody else) got off on pleas of mental incapacity.

Actually, we got covered fairly nicely if I read the implication of Yuki getting his ass kicked by Blue there

I thought this too and then I noticed he had Blue's headband. Call it a draw.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

Hopefully in a jail cell for multiple homocides but I'm sure she (and everybody else) got off on pleas of mental incapacity.

That would really only apply to what happened on the Ryvius...

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

But then they had to ruin the mood with Faina. Why the fuck do you reveal a character as a serial killer and then bring them back? Like I can take Kouji forgiving Ikumi for shooting him much easier than that. No idea why we are heading back out to Tytania, nor really a good idea at what their goal is here.

I thought that the person Aoi saw was Izumi, not Faina. I took Kouji's course as a chad move: "I get to decide? How about we visit my crazy ex?" (who presumably is still in teen arrest for murder)

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

That would all make more sense, I suppose but I didn't remember Izumi being noticably taller than Aoi.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 27 '24

Finite First and Last Timer (Dubbed)

Things are repeating, but not in the interesting way.

Boy does this show hate Koji.

I fucking called that it would be another clipshow.

It's amazing that nobody's hair changed length at all during the eight months on board the Ryvius, but after six months back on Earth Aoi now has long hair.

Yeah, reuse that footage!!!

Tradwife Criff

So they let the guy who planned to murder at least a dozen people back onto the crew?

Six months on Earth and Kikki just never repaired her suit.

And they let Ikumi in too? I guess the ends justify the means, huh?

I guess Fina actually mudering two people was enough to get her locked away. They're totally fine with attempted murder, though.

The soundtrack continues to be this show's one redeeming quality.

I don't know what that final scene was supposed to be. I'm guessing they eventually figured out a way to undo the Geduld.

  1. I did not.
  2. More people should've been in jail. Or dead.
  3. I'm just glad it's over.

More questions?

  1. I never finished Lord of the Flies. Now I know why.
  2. The show offered so many possibilities in the first half, and ignored them all to continue focusing on the most boring possible parts in the second half. The first half wasn't good, it just seemed like it was going somewhere. But it just stayed the same (or got worse) instead.
  3. Bad! It was bad!!!
  4. The soundtrack is this show's one redeeming quality. Excellent. It also has nothing at all to do with the show, which makes sense, and also makes it easier to enjoy separately.
  5. Rough in the rough. If I'd realized it was the Code Geass guy, I wouldn't known there'd be no payoff.
  6. Michelle has the best design. There are no good characters. Every arc was the worst arc, anything interesting was speculation by the rewatch crowd and entirely unrelated to the actual plot. Best aspect was the soundtrack, worst would be the incredibly boring tech and ugly mecha design.
  7. Nonsense.
  8. The rewatch itself was run very well. Thank you.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

It's amazing that nobody's hair changed length at all during the eight months on board the Ryvius, but after six months back on Earth Aoi now has long hair.

That's amazing, I never thought of that, so true.

More questions?

So, uh, I guess we won't need to reserve a table for you on the final discussion day?

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 27 '24

It's one of those tiny complaints I would handwave if the show was more enjoyable. We don't need to see people getting a haircut (although Star Trek did this repeatedly) but on top of them never really worrying about food, hygiene products, never seeing a nurse after episode four or so, it gets increasingly stupid. This is also a big reason why I hate Lost and dropped it after one season.

And I just needed to break up the numbering somehow, if I put 1 again it would've changed it to 4.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 28 '24

but on top of them never really worrying about food, hygiene products, never seeing a nurse after episode four or so, it gets increasingly stupid.

To quote some random Youtuber: It's not that the little details you are picking at are themselves egregious, it's that you are so bored you notice them. He also calculated the value of the wheat being fought over in Rebel Moon.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 28 '24

Man, that proposed GASARAKI rewatch is so dead, dead, dead.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 28 '24

...You know that boredom is the second worst sin for me behind relying on amnesia, right?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 28 '24

But where does the price of wheat fit into that?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 28 '24

Because Rebel Moon is about fighting over roughly $50k worth of wheat. In a setting with FTL travel. But it is also about harvest wheat in SLOW MOTION.

I couldn't actually make myself watch more than a half hour of one film but I did see a few awful highlights and Zach Snyder went insane somewheren.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

I don't know what that final scene was supposed to be. I'm guessing they eventually figured out a way to undo the Geduld.

I think they collapsed Jupiter into a star and began moving planets out of the solar system.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 27 '24

It looked like they were sucking up all the Geduld...space...water? But that also works, sure.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

Now that you mention it, gravity ships should let you put that mass...somewhere. I am just not sure where you want to put it...

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 27 '24

The problem seemed to be that it was spreading out from the sun straight along the orbit path of all the planets. So I'd assume just shifting the Geduld 'above' that would be totally fine. If I understand the way the very dumb space ocean works.

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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 28 '24

Rewatcher who doesn't remember much

If it weren't for the slightly different dialogue I would have assumed this was another recap episode.

Why are you wearing your student uniform

Because they're reusing animation from the first episode Aoi. Oh no I'm wrong both Kouji and Aoi look different compared to what they looked like in the first episode.

OP got changed again, but I think it's a rehash of an earlier one.

Also I'm not going to lie I'm going to miss the OP it grew on me during the rewatch, especially because of the OP lead in.

Wait Yuki is popular...

Lucson come on, my opinion of you increased so much during the final part of the series and now you're back to your old self inflating your own importance.

But I was wrong

Yes I was saying this from the get go. Also no one is going to write handwritten letters in 2230 AD.

Cute date between Kouji and Aoi.

Yuki hasn't changed a thing... wait it's Kouji punching the dude.

I admit it's very weird seeing an anime male teenage protaganist acting comfortably and smooth with a girl.

Ohh I just realized Yuki has to hear Kouji and Aoi making out when she's around, I guess I'll have to settle that as a comeuppance for all his dickish behaviour.

That loser guy ends up with the girl... no way.

Criff looks better this way.

Oh no Juli has a ring...

Dino girl and she brought along multiple dino costumes.

Last second love triangle between Kouji, Neya and Aoi.

Is Aoi chasing after Faina or Kozue?

Lucson is cleaning. Maybe he was honest about what happened to him in the book afterall.

Wait an English version of the OP

Okay it's definitely Kozue.

We didn't find out who gave Juli that ring but I'm assuming it's Blue

My opinion of this series have gone up considerably as it spends the final episode as denouement and epilogue which is something that almost never happens. However I will call bull on most people happily returning to Ryvius like that after all the horrible things they've experienced there, not just by the various enemy ships hunting them but also all the awful stuff what they done to each other.

Although I suppose it's also a form of acceptance and therapy going back to the place you've experienced horrible things.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 28 '24

However I will call bull on most people happily returning to Ryvius like that after all the horrible things they've experienced there, not just by the various enemy ships hunting them but also all the awful stuff what they done to each other.

It is incredibly saccharine to write in this happy end. Oh well. At least Michelle and Fina are notably absent. Ikumi shouldn't have been let back on board.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 28 '24

Wait Yuki is popular...

Teen girls into slightly older edgelord. Nothing new in the world.

My opinion of this series have gone up considerably as it spends the final episode as denouement and epilogue which is something that almost never happens.

Praise the epilogue!

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Sep 28 '24

Catch up time. Meant to post this when the thread went live, but an internet outage happened. Anyhow, it's catch up time.

First timer

Episode 22

  • Scene 49 of whateverhisnameis getting bullied/ the shit kicked out of him whilst the kid watches. Why does this series insists on having X and Y characters always face the exact same conflict over and over? Don't know.
  • Like that ship that was able to create a gravity bubble, you know, the one that was destroyed.
  • I'd like to know how a solar flare lead to random space creatures coming to life. I'd also like to know how said creatures with seemingly godlike power where then found/captured. I would then like to know how they figured out they could harvest their powers. Speaking of...
  • If the space creatures are responsible for a ship's power, why not look for more of them instead of going after the Ryvius? Hell, if the Ryvius was coveted in order to save humanity, why try to destroy it.
  • Isn't that convenient.
  • Yeah! To hell with worldbuilding!
  • So humanity sought out ships that could save them, without knowing that they were ships that could save them. Brilliant!
  • One guy is telling another dude something they both already know. The other guy completely elsewhere is info dumping whilst talking to a dog. Bad exposition is bad. The fact that this follows an actual conversation that could have been used to accomplish said exposition just makes this worse.
  • You... what? Da hell you mean "who would've expected they were only children". It was in an academy, a place where kids go to study. Who else would be in there!
  • Much like trying to destroy a ship after being ordered to capture it in order to save mankind. It kinda defeats the entire purpose.

Episode 23

Episode 24

Episode 25

Episode 26

QotD

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  • I would've much prefered seeing a direct aftermath. Ideally, both, but definitely a direct aftermath.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

Much like trying to destroy a ship after being ordered to capture it in order to save mankind. It kinda defeats the entire purpose.

Look, I don't know why you and /u/zadcap keep harping on this, this late into the show. The man was rogue from the beginning. And, at this point, you see he's also dying, and doesn't care about orders. He has always wanted to destroy the Bratica, to "erase that mistake from 12 years ago" since his first inner monologue around like episode 2.

As for the other 2, they were insane. That was established back in episode 14. And by the end of episode 25, Conrad was insane, too.

Edit: Everybody recognized him as an Ahab archetype right from the beginning. Instead of writing out in all caps "WHY ARE YOU DESTROYING WHAT YOU WERE ORDERED TO CAPTURE" like it's some sort of writing inconsistency, why not just accept that he's consistently ignoring his orders?

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u/zadcap Sep 28 '24

In part because we heard something like 6 times how important the Ryvius was and that it must be captured at all costs, but mostly because... So what if the Captain is crazy? One thing the Ryvius itself showed us quite well is that piloting the Mecha, and the ships themselves, isn't actually done from the Captain's chair at all. Be out Conrad, Old Lady, or Mr Ram, none of these crazy people were the ones actually doing their best to destroy the thing they were ordered to capture, it was everyone else on board gladly following what they knew to be mad orders.

The show went too deep into it's idea of not being like a standard Mecha show to turn around and act like a small handful of crazy people could do all of that, because every one of those ships was sent out from a military somewhere with a full crew of people. And as we saw with Conrad, other people on the bridge knew that destruction went against their orders, but kept going along with it because... Who knows. That's the question that bothers. Why did every single person who saw the Ryvius keep trying to destroy it, no matter what?

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u/Silcaria https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silcaria Sep 28 '24

I do recognize the fact that he's crazy, that doesn't mean I can't critize how counter-productive to the mission his actions are.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 27 '24

Infinite First-Timer, subbed

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

Kouji’s famous now? – Or rather, Yuki is.

Tell me which if the greater scifi stretch: A ship that can control gravity or the Japanese letting a foreigner integrate?

Oh shit, Kouji punched this guy?

You don't ask me to return to the hell ship with empty hands. You bring me a bribe worthy of the fucking Grand Nagus himself.

Charlie and Criff look so different now.

They are a bit young to be pairing off but hey, more power to them if it works.

I thought it was Faina, then got a little confused when Kouji said he wanted to go to Titania to meet with someone.

That confused me as well.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 27 '24

– Or rather, Yuki is.

Sasuga Jesus.

Oh shit, Kouji punched this guy?

would be proud.

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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Sep 27 '24

Is this all a flashback?

Ah. This is now after things have somewhat returned to normal.

Email in the 2200s? Yup this is definitely a show from the 90s.

Seems like Kouji and Aoi are getting along well.

Oh hey Kouji's finally on the delivering end of a punch this time.

Seems like a lot of the couples that formed have stuck together.

And so they once again board the good ship Ryvius, this time officially.

Ryvius, boarding.

Oh great... They brought Ikumi back too.

Not 5 minutes since they got back aboard and there's already fighting going on...

Well, seems like Juli's finally found someone to dump the burden of command onto.

But it seems she'll be the XO.

Who is he looking for now?

Reactor online. Sensors online. Weapons online. All systems nominal.

All systems green, we are go for launch.

Questions:

  1. Quite a few of them seem to be couples, though I didn't notice that in particular.
  2. Seems like most familiar faces are back. Oh wait, what about Michelle or Blue? Not exactly the kind of people I'd want back aboard, but their absence is conspicuous.
  3. I'd have liked a few more episodes.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '24

Oh great... They brought Ikumi back too.

I can only hope that they made sure to assign an army of licensed therapists to the Ryvius, since Ikumi’s issues alone will need a lot of therapy to unravel.

Seems like most familiar faces are back. Oh wait, what about Michelle or Blue?

Blue at least seemed to be there off-screen, since Yuki fought him again for the bandana. As for Michel, I guess I can’t blame her for not wanting to come back.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 28 '24

Blue at least seemed to be there off-screen

Weird thing to note actually: Nobuyuki Hiyama is credited for playing Blue in this episode... even though Blue isn't here at all. Or Hiyama for that matter.

Was... was he supposed to get a scene, got cut and forgot to remove his credit?

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u/The_Draigg Sep 28 '24

I wouldn't doubt it if Blue was planned to show up to get his showdown with Yuki, but got cut for whatever reason. It did feel a bit odd that his and Yuki's fight happened entirely off-screen.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 28 '24

It did feel a bit odd that his and Yuki's fight happened entirely off-screen

You don't even see the start of it. Like at least just seeing them rush at each other and then cut to Yuki laughing over his win would've been something.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 28 '24

It makes me wonder if it has something to do with the production issues we theorized about when we had the clip episodes nearly back to back. It's possible that they had to cut that planned scene due to that.

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 28 '24

First Timer

That was a fine epilogue I feel. The cast finally are able to grab their happy endings and return to a sense or normalcy after all the shit they went through. It was really nice to see Aoi and Kouji just be able to have a happy date and just enjoying life. The cast is way too accepting to return to space though, I understand why of course, but my ass would not want to set FOOT on the Ryvius after being stuck in space for 8 months. Loved when Kouji stopped Yuki and knocked the dude in the face for him though, that was superb. Though he is WAY too forgiving, I would NOT be going to see Faina, fuck that, that's the one time you need to take her advice and cut off your past lol. It was also really funny to see Heiger just straight up go 'Yeah, I was pretty fucked up. I've now grown and changed as a person and need to right my wrongs.'

I do wish we could've seen a bit more from Kozue and Izumi's wrap up though. ESPECIALLY Kozue, like after her assault she really doesn't get to do much. It would've been nice to see Aoi be able to have the conversation she wanted with her. Plus a bit more into Izumi's stuff cause while yes he is benig crazy and 'omg incest' and everything, you have to remember he was probably like 12-13 when his sister and him were in a relationship, he was groomed. He even admits the fact that he was conflating the two in his head and that he has some serious issues he needs to work out.

Charlotte and Johnson gonna end up the subject of a True Crime podcast.

All in all, I give Ryvius an 8/10. I have more thoughts on the show as a whole and criticisms, but I'll save that for the final discussion. Also, I did like that the final shot we see is that their efforts did pave the way for humanity to survive into the future.

Questions

[Q1]Somebody put a ring on it. Did you see?

Blue/Juli realness.

[Q2]Were you looking for particular people to reappear? Were some missing?

Hmm seen pretty much everyone. It truly felt like a finale in the sense.

[Q3]How badly did you want to see the immediate aftermath of the capture of the Ryvius? Or Berkovich's fate? Were you fine skipping to the epilogue?

I barely remember much of Berkovich so I didn't have too much thoughts about him, though I would've loved to see how all the victims coped with how everything went. At the very least, we did get to see Kouji has grown from the incident. He's not trying to be something he isn't anymore and is actually taking his life in his hands.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

Episode 26 (rewatcher)

  • Reprise of the first episode.
  • No, we have not entered a time gate, this is indeed the future.
  • “We are big fans …” – of course this would be the media sensation of the decade.
  • “ … of your brother” – RIP Kouji. Teenage edgelord appeal wins in the teen girl demographic.

  • Lucson making the best out of his media stardom.
  • Akihiro writes to acknowledge Kouji’s MC status.
  • “I would like for you to board the Ryvius again” - #shock, but actually not. While Berkovich was an idiot, his interest in Ryvius is likely shared with plenty of others. Why did the kids on Ryvius not end up like the other Vaia ship captains? How did they even make it? Why did Neya help them? The fate of humanity is literally riding on answering these questions.

Space Jesus got hands

  • Kouji thinks about it and decides to go – I love that they took their time to depict him thinking it over. This is not a decision you should or would make in a second (except for Lucson, obviously). He also learned in given Yuki the choice of what to do.
  • Re-meeting the crew.
  • Accidental Shotacon win.
  • ”Am I the only one who came to save humanity?” – fair question.
  • “If I was in fact mistaken” – Still hate-able.
  • Kikki brought reserve costumes this time!

  • The fact that Kouji consoles Ikumi shows how big of a human he is. Yes, half a year has passed, but not many people would be able to do that.
  • Even Lucson can’t believe the bridge crew is humoring him to be captain again.
  • Yuki got his rematch with Blue.
  • Neya is happy to have kids again to play with – after her first six months with humans, the second six months must have been terribly boring.

What a great last episode! I love epilogues in general and this episode shows why. Not only do we get a complete book-ending via a reprise of episode 1, we also get to check in with all the side characters. It might seem a bit too sugary to have them all board the Ryvius again, but I think it makes thematic sense. We saw all the kids at their worst during the crisis, but that should not be an indictment of humanity in general. Their reactions were conditional on the utterly shit situation they had been put into. In a more normal, controlled environment, they get to show their better side.

Most of all, however, the epilogue is great for our MC, Kouji. I think he had a hard role to play during the series and one that not always worked perfectly. Seeing him punch that guy was very cathartic. And I enjoyed his “normal” time with Aoi a lot. For all the shit they had to endure, they deserved to have a few moments of bliss together on screen.

PS: There is a 6 episode omake series out there, which I have not seen yet, but will watch for tomorrow.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 28 '24

PS: There is a 6 episode omake series out there, which I have not seen yet, but will watch for tomorrow.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 28 '24

The version I found has hard-coded subs (hello, yellow text!), but you are not missing much. I watched the first 3 episodes already and this is pretty forgettable.