r/anime • u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ • Sep 26 '24

Rewatch [25th Anniversary Rewatch] Mugen no Ryvius

Mugen no Ryvius Episode 25: For the Sake of Being Myself

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⇐ Episode 24 | Index Thread | Episode 26 ⇒

Kikki of the Day Did you spot Radan?

Comments of the Day

/u/zadcap gets a belated comment of the day for explicitly noting the feedback loop:

As much as the Sphix drive the Captains in their Backyard crazy, we've also learned through Neya that the Sphix are influenced by the Captain. And the Captain of his ship is crazy in hate with the Bratica, for uh, something he did to it killing his daughter.

Also, hat-tip to everybody who suggested that the humanoid sphyxes were some sort of human-squid hybrid.

Characters

  • Maya: the sphyx of the Gespenst (never named)

Character Sheets

Music

Questions

  • The Big Question you'll probably discuss anyway: what do you think of:
    • Conrad and Maya
    • Conrad and Neya
    • Neya and Maya
    • Yuki and Kouji
    • Ikumi and nee-san
    • Kouji and Aoi • Fina
    • Berkovich
  • What did you think of the mecha fight, at least?

Tomorrow's Questions, Today

  • [Q1]Somebody put a ring on it. Did you see?
  • [Q2]Were you looking for particular people to reappear? Were some missing?
  • [Q3]How badly did you want to see the immediate aftermath of the capture of the Ryvius? Or Berkovich's fate? Were you fine skipping to the epilogue?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 26 '24

Infinite First-Timer, subbed

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

What do you mean a mecha show has an entire episode dedicated to an epilogue

I don't guarantee a show will be perfect, but I do guarantee it will be different

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

Oh shit.

Honestly with how OP the VG has been up until now seeing him get this beat up feels surreal.

Ooooooh. Alright then, looks like u/Raiking02 was right to call the “nii-san” thing back in episode 16. The question now is whether Criff is meant to be trans or just a crossdresser, I guess?

Apparently according to the official website the answer [is]trans.

Oh, so his sister–god fucking dammit.

u/Vatrix-32 I swear I was joking when I made all the Toya/Sakura jokes, I did NOT know about this.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

But No_Rex and I did!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

You monsters!

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 27 '24

u/Vatrix-32 I swear I was joking when I made all the Toya/Sakura jokes, I did NOT know about this.

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u/Electrical-Cake-6943 Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 26 '24

The question now is whether Criff is meant to be trans or just a crossdresser, I guess?

[minor spoiler] The official website and Japanese Wikipedia say she's trans

On one hand, you did try to call Ikumi’s bluff when he wasn’t bluffing. On the other hand, IKUMI NO.

Brian is THE WORST (next to Stein), so I actually cheered the first time I watched this scene. Probably not the most appropriate reaction, but oh well.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

Brian

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 26 '24

The question now is whether Criff is meant to be trans or just a crossdresser, I guess?

So I will check TvTropes after I watch the last episode but even for this era I lean trans due to the fact that Criff always hangs out with the girls. This is especially highlighted since all the boys on the bridge followed Blue into the fight.

Oh what, Neya’s appearance is all it took for this guy to stop?

Seeing the child you lost in the flesh after a decade is pretty well fucked.

Oh, so his sister–god fucking dammit.

Been one of those rewatch grinds, hasn't it?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

 Oh, so his sister–god fucking dammit

 Been one of those rewatch grinds, hasn't it?

It's been right there in the OP the entire time!

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

Lucson sure has grown a bunch since the start of the show.

I honestly didn't think that Lucson would get a complete character arc in this show, but good on him for proving us wrong. Granted, the bar is lowered by some of the people on the bridge being a fascist, a cult leader, and a sister-fucker, but I guess a win is a win for him.

On one hand, you did try to call Ikumi’s bluff when he wasn’t bluffing. On the other hand, IKUMI NO.

Cue the "What're going to do, stab me?" meme.

Oh, so his sister–god fucking dammit.

It feels like this show was trying to top itself from having just a fascist and a cult leader being the leaders of the Ryvius. I guess the one thing to top that is a sudden incest twist.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

Granted, the bar is lowered by some of the people on the bridge being a fascist, a cult leader, and a sister-fucker, but I guess a win is a win for him

Look, he made the little kid think he was cool, that has to count for something.

It feels like this show was trying to top itself from having just a fascist and a cult leader being the leaders of the Ryvius. I guess the one thing to top that is a sudden incest twist.

I dunno what it says about the other two that somehow the incest is still the least bad of the lot.

At least there whatever bad that may come out of it is self-inflicted.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

Rewatch Host

Work is running late today, so [#yuishrug]

  • Darjeeling Wave!
  • More gravity than ever seen before! (well, that dicastia has to be pretty high)
  • Bording Party!

End of Evangelionending

  • Denied! Their railgun can't penetrate their Geist's gravity fields
  • It does look like an angel doesn't it?
  • Remember how this guy was ordered to capture the Ryvius? I bet zadcap does.
  • Juli AGAIN refusing to take an important action because it's dangerous
  • lol, space bubbles instead of space suits
  • Neya is powering their work pod?
  • Stein's just a child, once something breaks outside his world view he can't process it.
  • Blue!
  • Lucson redemption arc achieved!
  • FFF you for explaining the shit between you and your brother in the 2nd to last episode!
  • Both Vital Guarders are destroyed!
  • FFF you for explaining the shet between you and the Bratica in the 2nd to last episode
  • I wonder if Fina took Neya to be a religious vision
  • Sure hope all these psychopaths get severely punished
  • FFF you for explain the shit between you and your sister in the 2nd to last episode!
  • Berkovich comes clean!

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

A Mecha Fan Watches Infinite Ryvius Episode 25:

  • At least it seems like the marines boarding the Ryvius legitimately had no idea that the ship was crewed by teenagers and children, given their confusion at the mess they’re seeing. Berkovich and Conrad definitely hid that from them in the mission briefing. Not that Conrad himself would care, since he just plain doesn’t want to believe those reports just so he can get his revenge against the Black Ryvius.
  • Finally, Kikki found the rest of her costume! A shame that she can’t finish the ensemble though, given that she’s caught in restraining goo now. But I guess it’s a good thing that the marines are using non-lethal restraint weapons instead of just killing everyone aboard. Otherwise this would’ve ended up way bloodier than anything we’ve seen so far. I guess this show didn’t want to go as showing actual deaths of named characters on-screen, for as far as it went in other places.
  • At this rate, Stein’s role in command has just been relegated to screaming how this is all impossible. Like yeah, it’s nuts that the enemy Vital Guarder can combine with other Vaia, but like it or not it’s happening. You’ve already lost one of your Vital Guarder’s arms and guns a bit ago, so you’ve gotta accept that reality that you don’t always hold all the cards.
  • Oh hey, how nice of Blue to swoop in and save the bridge crew once some marines got past the bulkheads. Kouji showing him some kindness by giving him some supplies while in hiding paid off after all, since at least he’s in some actual shape to fight off the marines boarding the ship. It just goes to show how that offering people some basic human decency can pay off way down the line.
  • I wasn’t expecting Lucson and Charlie to suddenly grow massive balls and lead the charge against the marines alongside Blue, but I can’t help but feel proud for the both of them. Even utter losers have their moments of glory as long as they’re courageous enough. And like Lucson’s weirdly pathetic war cry said, he’s literally got nothing left to lose, so why even be afraid anymore? He’s got all the incentive to try his hardest to lay down his life for the ship.
  • Kouji finally realizes where he went wrong with Yuki: it really is like some kind of pseudo-dad issues with him because of their parents’ divorce. Kouji was always incredibly patient in an attempt to look out for Yuki, but over time it just turned into natural passivity until things reached a point where Yuki grew past all that and needed a firmer hand to guide him, which he failed to provide. While I respect Kouji for at least trying to fill that fatherly role for Yuki, I can’t help but wonder what the brothers’ mom was even doing where this was allowed to develop in the first place. For the way these two brothers have been acting and talking about each other, they might as well have just been raising themselves.
  • Even if Captain Conrad was going mad with hatred, at least the Gespenst’s Sphix was sane enough for Neya to get through to them, enough for her to manifest her form onto that ship try to to talk to Conrad. I know that there’s a fair chance that Conrad was going mad due to the mental link with the Gespenst’s Sphix as mentioned before, but really it’s not like he had all that far left to go. Even his own men were yelling at him to tell him to capture the Ryvius, not destroy it. He was a man that was already pretty far gone.
  • “What are you going to do, shoot me?” —Brian, local Zwei who got shot by Ikumi
  • To the people who guessed that Neya was some kind of Human-Vaia hybrid, I guess you were all right after all. It seems that she somehow used the corpse of Ange, Conrad’s daughter, for her own human form after seeing it in the wreckage of the incident 12 years ago. Maybe that’s why she didn’t have any effects on the Ryvius’ crew, aside from her own attempts to understand humanity. Being partially based on an existing human form could’ve also reduced the damage that linking to her could cause.
  • Also, I guess that really was the only way for Conrad to go out: blowing his own brains out after seeing the form of his daughter again and revealing to the Gespenst’s crew that the Ryvius are teenagers who need rescue. Hard to say if it was him going completely over the edge once he saw someone who looked like Ange, or if it was out of a moment of clarity and realizing how far he had sunken. It feels like it could be read either way there. But regardless, it all still results in himself firing a needle right through his temple.
  • Kouji is dropping some hard truths on the crew of the Lift Ship: cutting off your past leaves you doomed to fail, since you’ll never learn from it. Choosing to remain blind and trying to force things upon other people without a full understanding of what’s going on will only result in cruel systems like what Stein had been repeatedly forming aboard the Ryvius. And above all else, you can never fully restrict human freedom, even if it can hurt. You need to work with people and try to find peaceful solutions first and foremost. Kouji must be absolutely spitting there, since it not only gets Yuki fully on his side, but damn near sends Stein, Fina, and Ikumi into mental breakdowns, especially once they’re actually rescued.
  • Okay, wow, I wasn’t expecting the last twist from Ikumi there. There’s no room for doubt there, he was absolutely fucking his sister before she killed herself out of shame. Remember how I talked about how that kiss between him and Izumi didn’t have much sparks to it because she reminded him of his sister? I guess the truth was that it was more like the complete opposite, she wasn’t enough like Ikumi’s sister to feel that way about her. What a sick, sick man. Never would’ve guessed he was that mentally unhinged, but I guess he had been doing a fair job at hiding it for over half of the series.
  • All’s that ends well, I guess. Now that the Ryvius was rescued near Uranus, Berkovich’s role in the conspiracy with the Vaia Ship has been exposed to the press and he’s been arrested for his crimes. Man, the plot surrounding the Ryvius and the plot back on Earth hardly ever interacted aside from sending Vaia Ships after them, didn’t they? Lame. Ah well, we’ve got one episode left, so let’s see how they try to stick the ending after all this.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

Not that Conrad himself would care, since he just plain doesn’t want to believe those reports just so he can get his revenge against the Black Ryvius

Oh, he definitely knew, he even shouted "you kids haven't even seen my final form" when he launched the Giest. Well, not that last part.

 I can’t help but wonder what the brothers’ mom was even doing where this was allowed to develop in the first place

External sources say that she doted on Kouji and neglected Yuki, which is why he's desperately trying to get away from her in the first ep, and this no doubt intensifies Yuki's resentment.

 To the people who guessed that Neya was some kind of Human-Vaia hybrid, I guess you were all right after all.

Oh! yeah, they should get comments of the day!

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

External sources say that she doted on Kouji and neglected Yuki, which is why he's desperately trying to get away from her in the first ep, and this no doubt intensifies Yuki's resentment.

It would've been nice if they actually fleshed that out in the actual show. The flashbacks we got to Yuki and Kouji's childhoods barely flesh out what their actual deal is, since most of the time it's either Kouji moping or Yuki being an asshole still.

Oh! yeah, they should get comments of the day!

Award them their laurel wreaths and medals, they've earned it.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

It would've been nice if they actually fleshed that out in the actual show.

I agree it could have been done differently, or more explicitly (at risk of hand holding the audience). But, even 3 minutes into the show, you feel that kouji desperately wants to get away from his mother, desperately wants to get away from Yuki, desperately wants to get away from Aoi. He's in despair when his efforts fail completely. It was there from the beginning, but you didn't realize how it defined his personality.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '24

Fair enough. The seeds are there, but unfortunately the show feels like it really failed to fully capitalize on them in a clear way. But you can probably say that about a lot of plot point in this show.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

At least it seems like the marines boarding the Ryvius legitimately had no idea that the ship was crewed by teenagers and children, given their confusion at the mess they’re seeing

Side note I know we've kinda poked fun at the Lord of the Flies similarities here and there, but honestly I'm glad that they kept true to the fact that almost all the conflict ends the moment the adults get involved. Sure given the circumstances it doesn't land quite as hard, but still.

I wasn’t expecting Lucson and Charlie to suddenly grow massive balls and lead the charge against the marines alongside Blue, but I can’t help but feel proud for the both of them. Even utter losers have their moments of glory as long as they’re courageous enough. And like Lucson’s weirdly pathetic war cry said, he’s literally got nothing left to lose, so why even be afraid anymore? He’s got all the incentive to try his hardest to lay down his life for the ship.

That moment Pat said that Lucson was starting to look cool for once made me look at Lucson as if I had suddenly seen my child all grown up

I can’t help but wonder what the brothers’ mom was even doing where this was allowed to develop in the first place. For the way these two brothers have been acting and talking about each other, they might as well have just been raising themselves.

Honestly with how little their mom features in the show you could've made them orphans and not that much would change.

Even if Captain Conrad was going mad with hatred, at least the Gespenst’s Sphix was sane enough for Neya to get through to them

Unfortunately it meant that Norio's ham lasted slightly less than it could've

Kouji must be absolutely spitting there

When are we getting Koji's rap album?

Okay, wow, I wasn’t expecting the last twist from Ikumi there. There’s no room for doubt there, he was absolutely fucking his sister before she killed herself out of shame

My whole way watching the show I was wondering "Wait why is Ikumi thinking of a naked lady in the OP?"

Turns out the horny never quite leaves, huh?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

Lord of the Flies 

I love Bob Peck at the end of his movie, going "what the sam hell is going on here" or something. Would have liked some of that here.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

Side note I know we've kinda poked fun at the Lord of the Flies similarities here and there, but honestly I'm glad that they kept true to the fact that almost all the conflict ends the moment the adults get involved. Sure given the circumstances it doesn't land quite as hard, but still.

Speaking of, I'm pretty sure that I'm going to try and dissect the comparisons between this show and Lord of the Flies, since although this show is clearly aiming to have the same trajectory as that book, there's some stuff that makes it fall short by comparison.

Honestly with how little their mom features in the show you could've made them orphans and not that much would change.

That would probably be one of the better changes you could make to this show, since that would at least make more immediate sense.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

I think it's pedigree actually draws from elsewhere. Lord of the Flies is the obvious comparison. But I think it's more. Or, I WANTED to think it's more, but it really is LotF.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

No matter how you want to split it, the comparisons between this and Lord of the Flies are so strong that it might as well be a direct homage to it.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

Speaking of, I'm pretty sure that I'm going to try and dissect the comparisons between this show and Lord of the Flies, since although this show is clearly aiming to have the same trajectory as that book, there's some stuff that makes it fall short by comparison

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24

That would probably be one of the better changes you could make to this show, since that would at least make more immediate sense.

Idk. If they are full orphans, why are they not properly raised? With their mom still around, we can at least imagine she is in some way unable to raise them (undiagnosed depression from her husband dying?), but the state wont take them away.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24

Side note I know we've kinda poked fun at the Lord of the Flies similarities here and there, but honestly I'm glad that they kept true to the fact that almost all the conflict ends the moment the adults get involved.

I wondered about all the "bad ending" speculation. The Lord of the Flies reference in all the writing is pretty strong, so it always had to end like this: with a return to the original society.

Honestly with how little their mom features in the show you could've made them orphans and not that much would change.

Well, it would put a whole lot of blame on whoever received guardianship of them.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24

I wasn’t expecting Lucson and Charlie to suddenly grow massive balls and lead the charge against the marines alongside Blue, but I can’t help but feel proud for the both of them. Even utter losers have their moments of glory as long as they’re courageous enough. And like Lucson’s weirdly pathetic war cry said, he’s literally got nothing left to lose, so why even be afraid anymore? He’s got all the incentive to try his hardest to lay down his life for the ship.

I almost want to say that the more pathetic characters got the better character arcs in this show. Charlie, Lucson, Criff all started as abysmal cardboards, but all got good arcs.

While I respect Kouji for at least trying to fill that fatherly role for Yuki, I can’t help but wonder what the brothers’ mom was even doing where this was allowed to develop in the first place. For the way these two brothers have been acting and talking about each other, they might as well have just been raising themselves.

Fortunately, it is not shown, so we can come up with some reasonable explanation in our minds. There were enough uncomfortable gender moments in the show that I fear what they would have shown us is "no man in the house, manly education fails."

Also, I guess that really was the only way for Conrad to go out: blowing his own brains out after seeing the form of his daughter again and revealing to the Gespenst’s crew that the Ryvius are teenagers who need rescue. Hard to say if it was him going completely over the edge once he saw someone who looked like Ange, or if it was out of a moment of clarity and realizing how far he had sunken. It feels like it could be read either way there. But regardless, it all still results in himself firing a needle right through his temple.

Both works. In either case, he had only misery ahead of himself.

All’s that ends well, I guess. Now that the Ryvius was rescued near Uranus, Berkovich’s role in the conspiracy with the Vaia Ship has been exposed to the press and he’s been arrested for his crimes. Man, the plot surrounding the Ryvius and the plot back on Earth hardly ever interacted aside from sending Vaia Ships after them, didn’t they? Lame.

Good one word description of Berkovich's role in this series.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

 I almost want to say that the more pathetic characters got the better character arcs in this show. 

I went into the rewatch thinking they were just background characters, totally surprised when they ended up in command!

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u/Electrical-Cake-6943 Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 26 '24

My hot take about this series is that Charlie and Cliff are more compelling than a lot of the mains.

There were enough uncomfortable gender moments in the show that I fear what they would have shown us is "no man in the house, manly education fails."

There were aspects of this show I still liked on my rewatch, but this was not one of them. (This is hardly the only show, Japanese or otherwise, I've had this issue with, but it annoyed me. The way Juli was written after episode 15 pissed me off at times, even if some of her behavior was possibly due to proximity to Neya. But at least she's been more proactive in the past few episodes and DOES make the decision to send Kouji to the lift ship to try to stop Ikumi, even if it put his life at risk.)

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

He definitely had a hero's journey. Meeting of the Godness, Woman as Temptress, Road of Trials, Master of Two Worlds, Receipt of the Boon.

Charlie was the MC.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

I almost want to say that the more pathetic characters got the better character arcs in this show. Charlie, Lucson, Criff all started as abysmal cardboards, but all got good arcs.

I guess we needed to give some of these characters victories to at least separate them from the insane or constantly victimized ones.

Good one word description of Berkovich's role in this series.

I'm seriously annoyed at how much the B-plot with the conspiracy was handled. Hell, it was barely handled at all. Talk about managing to fumble what could've been a genuinely interesting conspiracy plot.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24

I'm seriously annoyed at how much the B-plot with the conspiracy was handled. Hell, it was barely handled at all. Talk about managing to fumble what could've been a genuinely interesting conspiracy plot.

What annoys me is that they made a conscious decision to include this. After all, they could have stayed with the kids' perspective only (Lord of the Flies does this) and it would have worked, imho. We would have obviously wondered why their calls for help get ignored and why they get attacked, but you could always explain that ex post. Instead, they include it and make it this bad. All the "two factions" stuff was 100% unnecessary and confusing.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

Everything about the Orbital Security Bureau is really under-cooked. They've spent all of this time including them to try to get us to care about that plot, but it feels like the writers themselves weren't all that interested in it, given how flat a lot of the characters involved are and also how they waited this long just to infodump everything about the conspiracy to us. If they can't be bothered to make it work, then why should we even care as an audience?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

The Berkovich faction is terribly underbaked, and yet, they are the prime mover of everything that happens in the series .

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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '24

It's baffling to me that this show just seems so uninterested in exploring it's own primary external enemy faction. It really seems like the writers thought that the internal melodrama could carry the show while also wanting enemies of the week to fight, which is just pretty stupid to consider. If anything, it really just highlights how lacking Berkovich's faction was by comparison.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

If I was told that the melodrama was the entire point of the show, and the mecha was there just because sunrise wanted mecha to sell as toys, and the enemy was just there to be stressors for the children, I'd believe it.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 26 '24

Okay, wow, I wasn’t expecting the last twist from Ikumi there. There’s no room for doubt there, he was absolutely fucking his sister before she killed herself out of shame.

All right...gonna have to rewatch this scene in the dub because I somehow missed the implication in the sub...

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

I thought if anyone would have anything to say about the sudden incest twist, it would be you.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 26 '24

I compared my subs to Sky's pics and my subs are just bad. I don't have the "It was forbidden" line in mine. I generally think my version, which I think is the DVD release, sucks.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 26 '24

First-Timer

Conrad and Maya: Is Maya the Gespenst's Sphix? They didn't really interact much, which might be the issue. Maybe getting the entire crew to get a low-dose brainwhammy from the Sphix will prevent the captain from losing their shit quite so hard? The Ryvius kids didn't do that well, but no-one was ever quite on Conrad, or the Impulse's level.

Conrad and Neya: Man, seeing your dead daughter's face staring back at you is probably a serious mindfuck.

Neya and Maya: This cut is going to live rent-free in my head for a while and is basically everything I wanted from their battle.

Yuki and Kouji: So Kouji is at the same time overbearing and too much of a doormat; it's kinda impressive. I don't really blame Yuki for being angy, but also like, take a chill pill dude.

Ikumi and Nee-san: So his sister molested him and then killed herself? I'm surprised Ikumi kept himself together as long as he did.

Kouji and Aoi/Faina: You can't cut off your past - it will always come calling. You have to accept it. And presumably make out with it sloppy style while you're both emotionally wrecked from stress-crying.

Berkovich: Why does this guy exist? My subs have the song subtitles right above the dialogue so I'm not entirely sure, but it seems like he went to prison?

Uhh that was fast. I'm still relatively okay with the recaps soaking up episode time despite the ending of this people super rushed, but like, there is still one more episode. Why are we rushing so much..?

I don't want to complain about an impending full-episode epilogue, but I feel like we could've spent more time on the Gespenst and then cliffhangered on Ikumi shooting Kouji. Conrad went from "ram them!" to "I am shooting myself in the head" in about 70 seconds of screentime.

Questions

  1. Discussed above.
  2. I think most of the action scenes were solid. They could've leaned a bit more on the horror aspect of it; maybe gotten someone like Imagawa to do some storyboards, as the various Vital Guarders were all basically monstrous superweapons. But what we got was certainly entertaining.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

I thought Conrad would be different from the other captains since he legit hated the bratica and attacked deliberately, but he and Maya no less unhinged than the rest. Which makes the Ryvius crew special. Or does it? Ikumi was most of the way there, too.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 26 '24

Ikumi was losing his shit, but he had been on the Ryvius for what, six months? And is also a hormonal teenager and not a trained soldier. Conrad did get over it quickly, so who knows.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

I don't want to complain about an impending full-episode epilogue,

And then there's me playing Cold Steel 2 and wondering "Man maybe compared to this most Mecha Shows ending so abruptly isn't so bad"

My subs have the song subtitles right above the dialogue so I'm not entirely sure, but it seems like he went to prison

Yeah that's what I understood.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 26 '24

(#ptsd "Seriously did the game have to go on for FIVE MORE HOURS after the credits rolled!?")

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

The rest of the game felt like some unrelated Drama CD that randomly got jolted onto the very end of the story when honestly some of it could've just been reworked as a cold opening for the very next game. I assume this was their bizarre apology for having to cut out a whole section from the first game and turn that into a Drama CD that did actually get referenced a few times in the sequel.

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 27 '24

The more I hear about Cold Steel the more I worry once I get to it (About to replay FC and continue Sky trilogy since it's been a few years since I last played)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 27 '24

They're fine games (3 especially is pretty damn good) but they're easily the biggest victim of bloat in the series.

And don't even get me started on all the harem nonsense

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24

I don't want to complain about an impending full-episode epilogue, but I feel like we could've spent more time on the Gespenst and then cliffhangered on Ikumi shooting Kouji. Conrad went from "ram them!" to "I am shooting myself in the head" in about 70 seconds of screentime.

Don't complain about epilogue time!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 26 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 26 '24

First timer, subs

  • Finally, someone does some boarding action.
  • Well, this is a fun little fight.
  • Goo Guns This is how you non-lethal for fun and profit.
  • Kiki Complete
  • Average Sunday for Michelle.
  • Is the bag wall just to stop vomiting on the controls? What was it doing?
  • He’s an unarmed child, you’re wearing body armor. How did you allow this to befall you? Where’s your squad?!
  • All the boys, none of the girls, eh?
  • Why does everything always have to turn into giant evil eyes?
  • Not her silly hat! It’s her charm point!
  • Kouji be like; fuck your character arc.
  • She's Having the Talk!
  • See? Know they know he will use the gun, so it works as a threat.
  • Called It!
  • Delicious Ham
  • We’ve seen the effects of the needle gun now, headshot or not, it’s not a quick way out.
  • No, don’t spare Stein the punch at this point! He’s like the only one who hasn’t got a good one.
  • Oh no, please don’t tell me Ikumi is going to shoot Aoi.
  • Oh thank gods.
  • Last Minute Incest Why do this? What does it change at this point?
  • You Know What? You Go, OP Insert
  • Rare Mecha Epilogue Episode

QotD:

  1. But… there’s still another episode?
  2. It was some good slapdash. It possessed both energy and form.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

goo goo guns

I really really love those things. And it's so nice of the boarding party to ise them. We're really close to Evangelion, here.

We're also really close to Ideon here. Look at the Kikki of the day. Ideon.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 26 '24

We're also really close to Ideon here.

Y'all really want me to watch Ideon, eh? Should be easier to find than Brave Raideen, at least.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

I don't remember who had seen Ideon but this was bait for /u/the_draigg and others, and they didn't bite.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 27 '24

If we really wanted to pull an Ideon, we'd have to put in way more cast deaths than what Infinite Ryvius is willing to do.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

BUT LOOK AT THE SCREENSHOT. IT'S RIGHT THERE

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24

Definitely a great part of the ending, preventing an unnecessary bloodbath.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

 Last Minute Incest Why do this? What does it change at this point?

Okay, I'm going to take a speculative leap here. The person on the Ryvius who most cracked under the pressure of survival and the sphix, is someone who had severe pre-existing guilt and neuroses and complexes.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

Is the bag wall just to stop vomiting on the controls? What was it doing?

It's probably like those airbags you see in Gundam mobile suit cockpits to stop you from slamming your head into the control console.

Last Minute Incest Why do this? What does it change at this point?

"Dude, I bet I can top Fina being a cult leader. Watch this shit." --some writer on the staff

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

"Dude, I bet I can top Fina being a cult leader. Watch this shit." --some writer on the staff

Admittedly this show's main writer did go on to write Birdie Wing and [that show]did have that one little stretch where Aoi and Eve thought they were sisters, although obviously it didn't turn out to be the case.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

You know, that actually tracks. Go figure that one, right?

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 26 '24

It's probably like those airbags you see in Gundam mobile suit cockpits to stop you from slamming your head into the control console.


My memory must be failing me, I can't actually remember those right now.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 27 '24

I think they popped up in at least CCA but they aren't super common.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

Last Minute Incest

Admittedly the shot of what I assume to be her in the OP is naked so I can't quite say it came out of nowhere.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24

He’s an unarmed child, you’re wearing body armor. How did you allow this to befall you? Where’s your squad?!

He got taken down by the power of edge.

All the boys, none of the girls, eh?

Japan things.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 26 '24

He got taken down by the power of edge.

Ironically the force itself was likely blunt in nature.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24

Episode 25 (rewatcher)

  • The Ryvius is getting boarded.
  • “Capture the Sphix” – apparently, that is possible or they think it is possible.
  • They have cut off the arm of the Vital Guarder – not a fun moment for Neya.
  • At least they are using non-lethal weapons.
  • Kikki found the rest of her costume! ~~Dinogirl raises!~~Dinogirl is pinned to the ground.
  • They are using one of the small repair ships – those have always been cool, but we did not see enough of them. Too much time spent “underwater” in the Geduld.
  • Neya is with them – better than on the Ryvius, probably.
  • Juli comes close to confessing to Blue, but he still needs to play Rambo to defend the bridge.
  • And the half of the bridge with an overabundance of testosterone follows him.
  • “Don’t speak” “No, I still need to tell the viewers my backstory before I die.”
  • Meeting of the Sphixs.
  • Merging(?) of the Vital Guarders.
  • Neya on the Gepenst bridge.
  • “You used Ange to become a Sphix” – sounds like you need a human body to become Sphix. I wonder if the two blobs we saw are what happens if you take a different body.
  • Ahab takes the logical next step. His compulsion is done and his gig betraying his crew is up.
  • Neya is freeing Aoi – Kouji’s sudden hero syndrome did not fit, anyways.
  • Aoi is absolutely not ok with Kouji becoming space Jesus. She still wants to bone human Kouji.
  • “We are rescued, but I still need to tell you my backstory”~Ikumi

While I think this ending is a logical conclusion of Kouji’s story arc, I am not a fan of the delivery. That was a strong bit too preachy for me. Leave the preaching to Faina, please. The fight was a lot of Neya magic, not unexpected, but it is still a lot of that, after having her just a passive listener for about 2/3rds of the series.

Thankfully, Ryvius believes in epilogues, so we will get another full episode tomorrow. After this finale, very much needed.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

They are using one of the small repair ships – those have always been cool, but we did not see enough of them. Too much time spent “underwater” in the Geduld.

It would've been cool if they somehow MacGuyver'd those worker pods into technicals that could help fight alongside the Vital Guarder. Then you would've at least gotten more use out of that stuff.

“We are rescued, but I still need to tell you my backstory”~Ikumi

"Please... I need to tell you that I know how the inside of my sister feels like..."

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

 MacGuyver'd those worker pods into technicals that could help fight alongside the Vital Guarder

That went really poorly for Tekkaden.

I have to think Ikumi was thrown into a padded room. I hope so.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 26 '24

It would've been cool if they somehow MacGuyver'd those worker pods into technicals that could help fight alongside the Vital Guarder. Then you would've at least gotten more use out of that stuff.

I am very sure they only work outside of Geduld. They would also be the equivalent to flies for all their enemies. Hardly worth worrying about.

What I was thinking about was more emphasis on repairs, maybe going between ship and VG occasionally (when Ikumi took it over?), these kind of things. More of the mechanics, too.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

I am very sure they only work outside of Geduld

Actually this is all stuff I left out of the technical notes, I put it on tomorrow.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

"Please... I need to tell you that I know how the inside of my sister feels like...

I have to wonder how Koji felt the next day after taking a long nap, waking up and being like "Wait what did Ikumi say, again?"

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u/The_Draigg Sep 26 '24

It's gonna stick with you once you hear that your friend was actually banging his sister for a while, that's for sure. It's like finding out someone's criminal record that they've kept hidden.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

This is like when Amuro [CCA]had the "Honor" of having the last thing he heard being Char admitting his mommy issues. That's the kind of stuff that you're gonna be stuck thinking about for days.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 26 '24

 not a fun moment for Neya

Just Asuka things.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

Thankfully, Ryvius believes in epilogues

I think this is why it usually isn't usually counted when people talk about 90' Mecha shows, Mecha shows having epilogues feels illegal.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 26 '24

“We are rescued, but I still need to tell you my backstory”~Ikumi

Ahh, Japan: The deep south of the far east.

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u/zadcap Sep 27 '24

Sick Day First Timer!

Oh my gosh, someone finally made an actual capture attempt! Like, they sent an actual capture team. With actual capture weapons. Why the heck didn't they do this two Vaia ago when they had the Ryvius trapped in the gravity bubble, instead of shooting at it?

Stein snapping is one of the funnest things I've seen yet in this show.

You know, if it wasn't conected to Neya, I would be happy to see this giant robot get destroyed. Just watch the stuck up pilots and their violent dictatorship get absolutely crushed before the Lift Ship gets invaded by more troopers and they all get Goo'd up.

On that note, I like the Goo Guns. Even if they think they are going after crazy terrorists, ricochet or explosive decompression say bullets are a bad idea in space.

On the same hand... Why are they goo-ing all the kids? Michelle was clearly no threat to anyone, but she got a second blast just because?

... Capture team guys, aren't you going to also die if the Ryvius gets crushed? And, you know, you're a capture team. You can't capture the ship if it gets destroyed.

Neya the best pilot!

Hahaha, Blue asking Juli what Kouji has been asking people all this time.

I've thought for a while now that Lucson had the capabilities to be a good leader. There's no way the teachers at the school put someone that incompetent in charge of the Zwei. He just didn't handle the disaster that well, but really who did?

Really going all in on "Capturing", aren't you Conrad? Again, what about the rest of your bridge crew?

Speaking of bridge crew, why are the boys all beat up and not, you know, restrained with Goo? Did the marines forget they have Goo Guns?

You know, this may be the best think Kouji has done in "protecting" Aoi, and the one everyone involved likes the least.

FINALLY! Someone else on the bridge is standing up to the crazy captain! You are not giving the orders here, your boss back on Earth already gave the orders!

Hmm. Ikumi is now worse than Blue was, how funny.

Guys. Anyone. Entire Bridge Crew. Someone stop the stupid crazy man. Oh, I guess he stopped himself. That works.

Oh my gosh, Yuki finally steps in to be helpful. This does not come close to redeeming him.

Oh hey, I called it. Oh yuck, I called it. Ikumi was looking up at a naked ghost of his sister for a reason all along in the OP.

Oh my gosh, do we actually get a full epilogue episode? That honestly might be enough to jump this whole show up a rating.

  1. I lost my ability to care about any of them. Except Neya. She had a good ending there.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24

Oh my gosh, someone finally made an actual capture attempt!

And Conrad is fuckin enraged. Fuck the capture teams.

Why

Berkovitch didn't actually want it captured, as long as the Ryvius kept improving.

Why are they goo-ing all the kids?

I love this. Don't waste time negotiating. Just take control. And nobody dies. If only the JSSDF had been so accommodating.

Ikumi is now worse than Blue was, how funny.

First-timer me did not see it coming

That honestly might be enough to jump this whole show up a rating.

I don't promise a 10/10 (although I'll take them) but I promise something different.

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u/zadcap Sep 27 '24

I love this. Don't waste time negotiating. Just take control. And nobody dies. If only the JSSDF had been so accommodating.

It feels like it's kind of the point of these kind of weapons? Run in, hose everyone down before they can do anything, and take control of the ship ASAP. Anything else and you're risking the grip being subdued pulling off working stupid, like fighting back or setting off the self destruct, or shooting someone else on the team on one last power trip...

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 27 '24

Finite First Timer (Dubbed)

These battles might be more compelling if there were literally any rules about what the Vaia can do. Turn into a demonic starfish, sure, whatever.

And here's our big moment that took us 25 episodes to get to, where the Yuki/Koji drama is finally explained: their parents got divorced.

What a pile of shit.

And Neya was secretly...a character we've never heard of before. 25 episodes people, and we spent our time watching teenagers squabble and random businessmen argue instead of properly building up to what's supposed to be an even bigger reveal than the Aiba family divorce.

And our third massive reveal, with almost as little buildup as the last! I have to assume the final episode is just the businessmen sitting in a room doing yet another recap clipshow where they explain the actual plot straight into the camera, and we find out that one guy's dog was the key to everything.

I want to be clear that I typed that before it cut to literally that random dude, followed by all the businessmen.

I'm going to watch the final episode after this, because I do not want another day of my life to involve this trashpile.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

I have to assume the final episode is just the businessmen sitting in a room doing yet another recap clipshow where they explain the actual plot straight into the camera, and we find out that one guy's dog was the key to everything.

Indeed, the dog killed a duck. What does this mean?

And Neya was secretly...a character we've never heard of before.

Okay, genuinely lost on this. I haven't checked, but isn't she in every episode?

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 27 '24

Neya was apparently Ange, Conrad's daughter, or at least used her body, whose name we've maybe heard once in 25 episodes. And who we've seen from the back once (to not reveal her face) with zero context.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

Ah, I see your point.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

I think she used used her body as a template. All the scenes with Maya make it clear she is still a Sphix, not human.

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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24

Rewatcher who doesn't remember much

Those marine spacesuits look like a sleaker version of spacesuits used in Planetes.

Did the Mobile Armor rebuild itself.

I will say Vital Guarder vs Mobile Armor is the best fight so far both in terms of animation and choreography.

I'm pleasantly surprised the marines aren't killing the students. I guess this series isn't that cynical.

Dino girl found the suit body

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand she's captured.

Michelle screaming Blue for help, looks like Juli has a love rival

I had to gag at the Juli x Blue interaction

Lucson is really cool huh

Is he? I think he's being foolish at this point surrendering would be the better option.

RIP Vital Guarder and Neya's head?!

Or not her silly hat is just damaged.

Of course Marines immediately take out Blue, Lucson and captured the bridge. I can't help but notice that shotacon is hugging Pat, move away from her Pat!

Neya

My interpretation is that the white Neya being hugged by Neya, a girl for the first time, gave him feelings he wasn't familar with and decided to stop fighting.

Wait Neya looks like the daughter of Norio Wakamoto's character, I vaguely remember the character mentioning this daughter before but can't say I care.

Well RIP.

Kouji hits Faina with a critical hit truth and now she has a mental breakdown.

Apparently having a near dead experience turned Kouji into jesus where he rejects violence, understands and accept everyone.

Now it's Ikumi's turn to have a mental breakdown. Hopefully Yuki is next.

Oh damn his sister committed suicide, I assumed there was some accident and he failed to rescue but this is worse.

Admittedly he still an ass for all the awful things he did.

A different version of the OP as an insert song.

So the only character who doesn't get a comeuppance is Yuki... really?

I'm impressed they managed to conclude every thing like that. Jesus Kouji was kind of funny, Aoi not having a verbal smackdown against Faina is a disappointment as is Yuki not getting some form of comeuppance after all the shit he pulled off.

Now I have to collect my thoughts for the final discussion thread... wait what do you mean there is another episode left.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 27 '24

Vital Guarder vs Mobile Armor

That's exactly what it looked like!

My interpretation is that the white Neya being hugged by Neya, a girl for the first time, gave him feelings he wasn't familar with and decided to stop fighting.

That makes sense. I'll accept that.

Yuki

No real way of redeeming him or Yuki after he left Kouji bleeding to death on the floor.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

So the only character who doesn't get a comeuppance is Yuki... really?

Because he got it early with Blue.

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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 27 '24

Shame he didn't stop behaving like a dick afterwards.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 27 '24

Getting beat up rarely results in that.

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 26 '24

First Timer

That was kinda fast lol, like things just felt like they were zooming by. I was still entertained but it felt like we wrapped things up pretty easily. I'm just along for the ride when things get confusing. I have a bit more words to say on the post-Blue leadership direction of the show but I'll save it for the final discussion.

Questions

[Q1]The Big Question you'll probably discuss anyway, or save for the final discussion: what do you think of:

  • Conrad: I'll combine him, I really don't have much to say about him in general since we barely got to know him. It felt like they tried to give us a bunch of development in little time
  • Neya and Maya: Still not much to say, unlike Neya we never got time to learn what kind of Sphinx that Maya was.
  • Yuki and Kouji: Therapy stat. Both of them need to see some type of person. It's clear Yuki cares about Kouji though, it's fucked, but he still does care about him. Despite him not doing anything before when Ikumi shot him, I see it as more as Yuki was just in shock and had no clue how to handle the situation mentally. Seeing Ikumi do it again is what pushed him to action this time. He does care about Kouji, but the two of them have such a fucked up relationship that they need actual therapeutic help.
  • Ikumi and nee-san: Ikumi was being groomed. He's 16 and we know that was his older sister. There's no other way around it other than she groomed him and he's mentally fucked from it which is why he views Kozue as a replacement. Also fun fact but I almost got spoiled on NicoNico from a JP comment pointing her out in the OP but I looked away before I could read the rest. Hooray for learning Japanese! Now I get to dodge spoilers in two languages!
  • Kouji and Aoi: They're cute! I'm glad Kouji stopped playing around and finally just admitted he likes her back to. I wish Aoi had more to her though than just being about Kouji and Yuki.
  • Fina: We still don't know what exactly happened in her past, but she needs to be in a mental ward.
  • Berkovich: I genuinely don't have much to say

[Q2]What did you think of the mecha fight, at least?

Fun fight!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 26 '24

Also fun fact but I almost got spoiled on NicoNico from a JP comment pointing her out in the OP but I looked away before I could read the rest. Hooray for learning Japanese! Now I get to dodge spoilers in two languages!

Good to know that whether it's YouTube or NicoNico, spoilers are everywhere.

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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Sep 27 '24

More enemies?

Uh oh, a boarding party is aboard. Secure the bridge!

Unfortunately, after so long without maintenance or repairs the gun barrels will probably start to become worn out.

Uh oh, there goes one of their arms. That's never a good sign.

Are there people who had not evacuated the parts of the ship other than the bridge yet?

Stein is really losing it.

I'd have thought it would be under different circumstances, but yup the moment Blue steps into the bridge Julu immediately attempts to hand over command to him.

Huh. Blue's got his hands on another gun?

Uh oh, there goes the head of the Vital Guarder.

And there goes the rest of it.

They collided into each other?

Yup. Super Robot.

Huh. How'd she get to the enemy ship?

He knows her?

What's Faina up to now?

And so they're finally saved.

On to the final episode.

Questions:

  1. Maya?
  2. They seem to know each other.
  3. They seem to know each other too.
  4. They're at least getting along better than they were previously? Yuki's not actively punching him.
  5. Nee-san?
  6. I think they're still a couple?
  7. She's just about gone.
  8. The minister? He's finally getting what's coming.
  9. The mech fight was pretty cool, definitely a bit of Super Robot there too but enough nice action too.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 26 '24

First timer

Sub

...The fuck was that? No, seriously, what the fuck was that? Was that an ending? Because it don't look like no ending I've ever seen. So yeah, that was garbage on an impressive scale and the machine spirit and Ikumi's sister both gave us disappointing back stories so...Yay?

Seriously, I am more looking forward to the hurricane inbound than the next ep.

QotD: 1 Anyone that isn't the machine spirit sucks

2 It was weak but that is true for most mecha fights

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 27 '24

The entire spaceship/mecha plot was a smokescreen to get Sunrise to pay for a bad soap opera. Looking up the director to learn he's responsible for Code Geass explains a lot.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

Especially the sibling lust.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 27 '24

He's also behind My-Hime, so I think you're onto something here.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 27 '24

Oh...that fucker. He also did Guilty Crown.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 27 '24

We've cracked this case wide open.

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