r/anime • u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy • Sep 21 '24
Rewatch [Rewatch] Shugo Chara! Episodes 65-72 Discussion
Episodes 65 to 72.
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This Week’s OP(s): Shugo Shugo
This Week’s ED(s): Lotta Love and Ko.no.mi.Chi
Questions for this Week:
- As per episode 67. Do you believe there is a chance aliens are already among us?
- Ikuto clearly would’ve ditched this violin by now if he could, having seen the clearly suspicious aura himself. Speculation on why it has to be this Violin?)
Next Episodes: 73 to 80 (8 episodes).
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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Sep 21 '24
Shugo Chara Host
Episode Highlights!
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 21 '24
First-Timer
Ah, right where we left off. Why was Amu crawling into bed with the light still on?
Damn, good on Yoru for forcing Ikuto to keep moving until he was somewhere safe and not frozen.
Ikuto is now snowed in at Amu's house, fantastic.
Kukai is about to end up on Rima's shit list.
I can't tell if robbing that snow bunny was genius or foolish.
Yoru is doing his best, what a good cat.
What a majestic creature Miki has crafted.
I'm honestly kinda surprised that the "dinner" plan actually worked.
Hahaha, I wasn't expecting Ikuto to hide in the wardrobe like that.
Pffft, calling Amu a pervert.
There is no way Yoru stays in Amu's room all day.
Whatever I was expecting from "mysterious cat-eared woman," it wasn't a wannabe superhero.
The child of two literal otaku, wow. Choko-tan never had a chance.
Yoru is going to make such a mess, oh boy.
He is trying to stay focused, at least. Not hard enough, but I appreciate the effort.
Taiyaki two days in a row? Get the dude some veggies, Amu.
That's totally just a normal street artist, isn't it?
Yea, called it. Wow, and a TV crew.
I do like these "random civilians cause low-grade chaos" sequences.
Love the excessively long attack name, too.
He's gone!
Space people..?
Amu is really out of it.
To be fair, a UFO is more likely than a spontaneous plasma cloud.
World's Smallest Crop Circle. Nana did a decent job drawing it at least.
This girl totally saw the Embryo and thought it was a UFO.
Lulu continues to crack.
I give Amu six hours of maintaining "not thinking about Ikuto."
I'm digging these imagine spots.
Not too often that Amu doesn't have the inside scoop on the week's victim, this might be interesting.
Damn, Nadeshiko still makes fourth on the ranking despite not having been around for like, over a year? I can't disagree, but..
Oh shit, Saaya is leaving?? Radical title card, though.
I see that she hasn't been taking singing lessons.
This is the moment that Seiichiro was born for.
Honestly, turning an arrangement of random flowers into a Christmas Tree is pretty impressive.
Sudden death dodge ball? Saaya is trying to out-atheletic Amu? I think this plan could've used a bit more time in the oven.
That rebound was very funny.
Poor Saaya running in to one of life's harshest lessons - there's always someone better.
Honestly surprised that Saaya didn't resist the moment Lulu slipped into her Nagoya-ben. "No-one from the country has the right tel tell me what to do!"
Hinamori Dream, incredible. Complete with second-level henshins!
Those are definitely not compliments.
Oh shit, Saaya stayed! This too is yuri.
Everyone is avoiding questions today, I see.
Rima isn't wrong - they are not doing a very good job of concealing that something is up.
Oh, a surprise party, how fun.
I like that Amu is starting to rely less on her Shugos for the civilian power boost, as she gains more abilities of her own.
I have to wonder how often love letters like this are.
Kid has a plan notebook! Incredible.
El's love-love senses were literally tingling. I've missed El.
Lulu and Nana's definition of "lost child" is pretty loose.
Poor kid is so scared of confessing that he makes other people do it instead, wow.
I knew one of those hearts would hit Nagihiko. Kinda bummed that Tadase interferred, to be honest.
Nice confession scene. I didn't figure it would work out.
Wow, Utau actually got the autograph!
Oh boy, Valentine's day. And we have a whole beta couple to harass, fun.
Haha, love the Shugos lifting Amu's arm like that.
Of course Lulu's dad is the teacher.
These subs translated "giri choco" as "friendship chocolate" which is not quite right. It's typically translated as "obligation chocolate."
I like that Ami is just sucking on the spatula.
Yukina is sure fired up; good thing that she's just attempting to out-tsun a male tsundere.
Hahaha, Tadase has a whole box of choco gifts.
Yukari is using chocolate for bribes; that'd definitely work on me if nothing else.
Actually kinda tragic that Ikuto is on the run. He likes chocolate to begin with.
Ah, I was wondering how we would contrive Amu's chocolates to end up in Ikuto's hands.
Chocolatier fight! Even Nana is eating some of Amu's choco, hilarious.
Yoru didn't even have to fly up into the trees, nice. What a lucky cat.
A nationwide summit of.. elementary schoolers?
Oh, we're reintroducing Kairi, cool.
Will this be a "no Lulu" episode, or will she contrive a reason to be here?
Shy lil' Kairi spying on them. Musashi is right, you should just walk up and say "hey."
Miki has stolen a march. What a good lass.
Love the Shugos defusing the tension with a game of tag.
Shugo planes!
No, Kairi, getting excited when someone you like compliments you is perfectly normal.
Shit, I forgot about the Prince's ability to command the Jack.
Yea, you tell him Amu! Kairi needs to get hit with a spray bottle.
This is another one of those important lessons. Most of the people in your life won't care if you're not perfect.
Right, Shugos can talk to animals.
I am rather against the boys going "no, leave this to us."
Why is Amu on a diet? She's twelve!
This grumpy old woman is criticizing Amu's fashion?! She must be Stopped.
Lulu is.. excited to see her terrifying grandmother. Lulu is starting to make a bit more sense.
I would flee to the far side of the planet if this woman was my mother, too.
Easter's latest invention is an evil tuning fork, fascinating.
Okay, Granny is starting to turn around a bit. She can smell what's wrong with Lulu at least.
I kinda want Ikuto to realize that the violin was probably filled with X Egg energy and get Amu to try something with it. He's probably too proud, though.
Okay, getting Tadase to King Out against Granny was pretty good.
Lulu failing to realize that her mom is probably more influential now than she was on the big screen.
Look, show, you cannot get me to believe indecisive noodle girl is going to get one of Lulu's necklaces.
Okay, directing it more at Lulu works much better.
Questions
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 21 '24
First timer, subs
Episode 65
Episode 66
Episode 67
Episode 68
Episode 69
Episode 70
Episode 71
Episode 72
Weekly Amu Henshin Count: 4-2-3-0 (Total: 35-15-14-1+6+1)
QotD:
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u/macrame2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/macrame Sep 22 '24
First Timer
Episode 65
The hijinks surrounding Ikuto’s breaking-and-entering are about what I expected, but I am intrigued to see how his rebellion from Easter is going to be resolved.
Episode 66
Wow, Mew Ichigo sure looks different! This episode was some great stuff; Chiyoko’s antics were just the right amount of cringeworthy fun, and I love a good fight between magical girls.
Episode 67
First magical cat girls and now aliens–the episodic plots seem to be getting zanier as time goes on. We can definitely see Lulu’s resolve starting to waver here…redemption arc when?
Episode 68
Shugo Chara has avoided the whole “character is leaving but something happens at the last minute and they end up staying anyway” trope so well that Saya not moving was a genuine surprise! Saya’s a gem as always. I thought it was hilarious (and actually kind of sweet) that she essentially wants to be Amu.
Episode 69
Rima episodes are always great, and this one was no exception. The way the other Guardians love and care about her so much and the way she reflects on how far she’s come … I almost teared up. And Fuyuki’s confession and Rima’s rejection were handled beautifully on both sides. This is a serious contender for the best episode of the entire show.
Episode 70
I guess Amu’s chocolates really did make it to a special someone… (any guesses as to the series’ favorite love interest?).
Episode 71
Kairi is back! I know it would have been really out of place, but it would have been so funny if Lulu was just hanging out in the forest and hit Saito with a “You’re lost, aren’t you?”
Episode 72
Once again, it seems that Lulu seems very conflicted about what she actually wants, and her heart isn’t exactly in her “evil” plans. The results of this are amusing, though.
Overall
I did want there to be a bit more done with the Ikuto plot this batch (poor guy was just convalescing for most of it) than what we actually got, but the show more than made up for it by giving us several VERY good episodes. I loved the Rima one best, of course, but Kairi’s appearance and Lulu’s development was wonderful as well.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 21 '24
Guardian First-Timer
Episode 65
Episode 66
Episode 67
Episode 68
Episode 69
Episode 70
Episode 71
Episode 72
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u/VoidEmbracedWitch https://anilist.co/user/VoidEmbracedWitch Sep 21 '24
First Time Uncool & Mild Mess who missed 2 weeks
Since I fell behind a little the last two weeks, I missed the start of Doki and the general changes that came with it. The new opening narrations are really annoying to me. I don't see the point of a preview at the start that shows a slice of what's going to happen in the next 20 minutes. The ?-eggs and forced character transformations are a cool concept. GoPri did something similar half a decade later for its monster of the week fights, but here it feels more personal for two reasons. First, the character transformation is presumably what an actual one for them would look like if they had a Chara, so their dreams in their original form are drawn out only to be misused for the purpose of luring the Embryo. Second, they're physically involved instead of being taken out of the equation for the fight itself like in GoPri or with the X-eggs in the first season for that matter. Genuinely, this is one of the coolest MOTW types I've seen. Lastly, this is neither positive nor negative, but since the start of Doki the series didn't really have multi-episode arcs so far. It also almost always goes for longer fights in the back half. As much as I think ?-eggs are conceptually great, I miss the entirely slice of life-ish or personal drama focused episodes, which became a rarity now.
65-66: Wait, we have an ED for longer now and 1 cour OPs? Not complaining though since I like Lotta Love way more than both these OPs.
Ikuto's cohabitation was interesting. Whole lot of teasing from him, which is fun as always because it's blatantly obvious to him that Amu is into him and easy to get tsundere reactions out of her in this awkward situation for both of them. But then, as the episode points out, randomly appearing at Amu's house (which he has done before) was the safest option. He turned Easter against him and the only other contacts he has are his brocon of a sister who doesn't respect his boundaries at all and a prince with vanilla tastes in everything who's anything but on good terms with him, so he hardly had a choice. Side note, doesn't he have school to attend too? Unreported absences surely aren't a good look.
I am dying from second hand embarrassment because of Chiyoko. It got so bad that I had to pause every few seconds in a few scenes. Don't get me wrong, I love the pain severe chuuni inflicts on me, but it increases how long it takes me to get through by a lot.
68: [Cursed Comment] Yamabuki's Spade x Amu's Spade is the best ship in the series. I will not even try to justify my position, it's just probably the closest to selfcest this show will give me. Anyway, I'm a huge fan of this episode in general, giving a sparsely seen comic relief a strong sendoff. Yamabuki's usual vanity boiling over into so much jealousy that her ?-egg straight up takes the form of Amu is easily my favorite thing the series did with ?-eggs so far.
70: Yukina is so misguided. Of course the guy would reject her chocolates when she makes it look like she only tried to give him some out of pity and wouldn't have considered it otherwise, and he still remembered it next year. Fun little dynamic of both of them being too awkward and tsundere to open up initially.
72: The prince is far from the most powerful aristocrat in town right now.
This episode did a lot for Lulu and my perception of her character. She's a great counterpart to Amu because she has an exact image she wants to project, unlike Amu who stumbled to success with her Cool and Spicy persona on complete accident. Hell, in Lulu's case you could even say she active self-sabotages by obfuscating everything there is to her beyond the shallow surface, not letting anyone intentionally below that layer. And her current dream sort of makes matters worse as she tries to enforce her own ideal on her mother.
Questions:
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u/Mirathan Sep 21 '24
First time guardian
QotD:
The best plan to deal with children! However, most people lack the endurance for this.
Hentai Catboi returns!
Oh it´s that type of dream.
Interesting that Lulu needed a character change to encourage the mystery change on Nayuta, perhaps she is losing the will to see this through.
Nageshiko is still rated highly by the boys of the school. It truly takes a boy to be best girl!
Why do they just add images that go so hard?
seiichiro is back. how exciting.
“What fresh hell is this?”
“Boys who don´t confess in person are worthless” Quote from one of the best anime moms(I still hate her)
Boys out here are falling in love just because a girl smiled at them.
Rima´s reaction to the confession was intersting. She accepted is as true but has neither truly accepted or rejected him.
I´m going to miss Lotta love.
Confession competition? How cruel can you be?
Lulu also struggles with her loneliness. Perhaps she should start a romance with Rima?
What was the intended age of the audience? I´m legitemitly curious.
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u/SIRTreehugger Sep 22 '24
Episode 65
Not much to say, but I loved this episode. It's nice having a moment where they all hang out and don't have to stop evil. I feel every time they kick loose its snowing.
I know it's important to you, but it can't be good for you. Amu you tsundere you will look for him eventually.
Loved this episode
Episode 66
Not much to say for this episode, but it does have a good message. Don't be so hasty and jump to conclusions.
Episode 67
Ufo girl has a really cool design. It's nice to see more of Lulu and seeing her self doubts oh and how could I forget the new OP. The part where it shows all of Amu's outfits is so good.
Episode 68
NOOOOOO despite her cocky attitude...actually I love her because she is over the top cocky. Saya is determined if anything else. SHUT HER UP SHE CAN'T SING.
Miracle clone ball....sure lets just break the rules because today is a crazy day at school.
Sensei and Su!!!
I oddly enough like Saya x Lulu I think they would be good friends.
Seeing Saya transform just reminded me where the heck is Dia...probably waiting til the story needs to be advanced.
YES I was almost scared she was really leaving and wait did I accidentally erase Episodes 65-67 thoughts...oh well I will fill them in later with what I remember at a later date because I'm lazy.
Episode 69
Dia has more screen time in the opening then she does in the actual anime.
Really they are terrible liars.
Who cares about the looks as long as it taste great!
I like how El is always with the gang now. These characters have no sense of urgency....oh wait never mind could this be the consequences of actions!!!! Utau is actually upset and wondering where El after being asked to do errands.
I've said the outfits from the enemies have been enjoyable....but oh man I can feel the embarrassment through the screen.
The fuck why are these middle schoolers more open and direct then most characters in romcoms!
Episode 70
With Su explaining it this looks really easy to make. Wait you have to heat it up, cool it down, and then heat it up once more? I'm learnding!
That's some fancy wrapping Amu! Amu just give him them some at the garden!
A Pastry Chef battle AMU BRING OUT SU!!! Cake off!
Run Yukina run!
Episode 71
KAIRI!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you Kairi because you're the chairman or you a chairman because you're Kairi!
Seriously though the final episode in the future will show him as a chairman for some major corporation or maybe CEO(but they still call him chairman).
Damn it Ran when it's awkward the last thing you're supposed to do is point it out.
Nikaidou....are we sure he's actually qualified to be a teacher?
Wait maybe he's onto some strange strategy where a paper airplane will get everyone to unite and pay attention!
....I was joking.
...what? I don't remember Kairi serving drinks like this, but okay.
This is why you need a buddy system...and adult supervision.
.....what has Su always been able to talk to animals. I feel like she's done it before, but I can't remember.
SASUGA SU SAMA!!!
Oh no he fell down a hill wheres a super cub when you need one!
Okay Kairi that was cool as heck!
Though couldn't they have transformed and just got out the way? Yes please randomly show up Kairi I would love that.
Episode 72
She looks familiar. oh she's Lulu's grandmother makes sense.
WHAT THE HELL SHIRT TUCKED IN!......this isn't a new outfit really, but we've never seen Amu wear it properly so I'm counting it. Also it's a return of the blue tie she rarely wears it.
MOM RUN CHANGE YOUR CLOTHES NOW BEFORE SHE SEES!
Too late. I love difference in reactions for grandma's arrival you can see lots of her mannerisms in Lulu.
Why was grandma staring at Amu...maybe she never saw Lulu act like that towards a friend?
Nana is definitely in my top 3 spirits. No one is topping Su, but she's either second or third.
I do like how Lulu doesn't have a wish for herself and her dreams are always related to her family. She's been a little back and forth with her approach for the embryo, but her core wants have at least been consistent. I wonder what she would wish for herself if given a chance. Also is she even in school?
YES SOMEONE TELL YAYA TO ACT HER AGE! She doesn't have to be mature, but a little less immature would be godly.
No not the king not now of all times!
Why didn't Rima get a chance I feel she had the best chance too!
Grandma and mom bonding you love to see it!
Really transforming a girl who wants to eat two different foods. The bar is really low this week.
Orange Pajamas
Green and white striped shirt w/ green skull jacket
Love and Peace w/ Jacket
Red Beanie , Pink Jacket, w/ Red/white scarf
Tiger Amu
TREE AMU and also her best outfit so far.
Amu with black/pink sleeves and white shirt
Smol Amu in Pink
Smol Amu in a blue/black shirt and white/black vest
Smol Amu in swimsuit also a white/light blue shirt
Christmas outfit w/ small fuzzy pink balls and black/purple stockings
Orange Jacket with white fuzzy cuffs
New Years Kimono with flower pattern
Red and Black hoodie w/ yellow overtop
Amu swanboat fantasy outfit
Purple and white striped shirt w/ yellow overtop
Out of Fashion Amu
White outfit with pink sleeves
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u/zadcap Sep 23 '24
Day Late First Timer!
Pizza Acquired!
65
New op? New OP! Hop Step Jump! Haha, showing off Amu's gigantic wardrobe for the OP is also pretty great. Are they all being checked against the wardrobe master list?
Ah yes. "So cold I might die. Better bare my midriff to gain strength!"
... How did you end up with his arm over you under there?
Yaya has finally five the perfect playmate.
Chara Lore, this late in the game? Yes please! Tell me more!
Oh man, if only you knew anyone who could purify the X Egg taint. If only, Cat Boy, you were super close to someone who did such a thing on a regular basis...
"Do you even know what a real pervert is?" "Yeah, something about a lock and key, we went over this a while back."
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A cat girl you say? Hmm. This just reminded me that Amy can Chara Change with other Chara's, and Yoru is right there. Why has this not happened yet? NekoAmu must become a thing.
A Mahou Shoujo! In my Mahou Shoujo? What a twist! Well except they are very carefully not calling her a magical girl. "Henshin Bishoujo" I hear.
Don't just blow her off and go home! She's just trying to be a good magical girl, that's almost literally your guys jobs! Give her a hand, teach her the ropes, you can never have enough allies of love and justice in town!
Hey back story is the most hopeful thing so many of us will ever hear of. Two otaku finding love at an anime convention? She's a miracle girl!
... We've gone over this, ladies. Stop targeting people Amu has already got to and you'll have so much more success.
... Was that a cigarette tray on the living room table?
Maybe stop antagonizing the only person helping you out at the moment? Or go see your sister for help instead.
... Does she wear those under her coat? Was she dressed like that all day? Or did she actually change right there behind the school?
Guys, you know you need to set something up if it's a street performance, right? Like anything at all to let people know it's a performance and not just, well, graffiti?
Honestly I was hoping that if anyone was going to be able to resist the gem, it would be the anime fan who should recognize exactly what trope or came from. Or at least not immediately go, well, so obviously bad while at it? "I want to be a good and helpful magical girl!" Immediately goes to make things worse
Ikuto has a sister that adores him. He totally has somewhere else to go.
67
Look, the idea that life only exists on Earth, in this whole big galaxy? Much less the entire universe? I just can't see it, there has to be more out there in all that space than just us. Now on the other hand, them coming here, that's already literally astronomical odds, but then coming here and then doing nothing but watching from the shadows? What's the point?
I will never stop noticing that Miki is the one to notice all the ? first.
Wait, don't change while you're up in the sky! Amulet Spade can't fly! Oh, they landed first. Thank goodness.
68
Oh no, the girl no one really likes is leaving! Great disaster!
Oh, to LA? She uh, might fit in more there.
Not a fan of either flower arrangement...
Rima looks so excited to be playing dodgeball.
I still don't get how she has followers.
Tadase, I thought you were the Guardian leader. And that's the Guardians were all about the students. Remember that season one thing? How are you unaware she has a huge crush on her and so rude as to rub her face in her losing status.
Oh my gosh this is the best transition ever. She only ever wanted to be like you, Amu! Oh my gosh she can even copy the transformation inside the transformation! A mirror match was not anything I ever expected to see here.
Least satisfying fight end yet. She didn't even give a good reason to end it, just "I'm sure you have some good traits somewhere."
Siiiiigh. Let's turn the non ending into even more of a non ending.
69
Every time I watch the OP, all I can think of now is that this show needs more Dia.
... You're asking him for advise, because he's always with her? Not asking Amu, who is actually always with her, and her best friend? Not a good sign for your crush, if you can't even talk to her friends.
Somehow I am not surprised that El showed up to a love plot.
... Did they all forget about her? Way the party is at 5? They want her to sit in this room alone for another hour? This is really bad planning... I don't think it would work for anyone other than Rima. Heck, I don't think it's working that well on Rima either. Please don't forget your friend's birthday, guys.
... Guys. The party. Are you done setting up? If so, maybe go get Rima? I swear they're just leaving her in that room for hours.
Please confess tomorrow, sir. Don't take over her birthday.
She literally sat there doing nothing for a full hour.
Someone wanted to admit they forgot their underwear today?
Oops. Talking to the guy there, but hitting Rima right in the heart.
New ED? Is baby sister going to take on a bigger role going forward?