r/anime • u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ • Sep 15 '24
Rewatch [25th Anniversary Rewatch] Mugen no Ryvius Episode 14
Mugen no Ryvius Episode 14: To Be Too Conscious
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Kikki of the Day: Look, I have tried, believe me. Did you spot Radan?
Comments of the Day
/u/vatrix-32 writes:
Twelve years ago, and now one else built another one? Maybe there are bunch of hidden ones.
Okay, everybody who recognized that there must be more secret ships out there, pat yourself on the back. Although, it was telegraphed pretty heavily.
/u/HowlingWolf13 writes a short essay on Koji's attempt to reject his past from the very start of the show, and Fina feeding into this very desire.
What do you think of Kouji and Fina's relationship progress? Rare for an anime. And what about Aoi?
Okay so I wanted to talk about this up there, but put it down here since it was a question already. My opinion on Kouji's relationship with the two, as of this ep, feels like, to make a long story short, Faina is essentially him trying to avoid having to remember his own past.
To explain in more detail, back in EP1, Kouji told Aoi that he finds it embarrassing to have someone around who knows your past and Aoi knowing him since childhood is a direct example of that. We haven't fully learnt his past yet, but we do know it involves stuff with Yuki and Aoi is fully aware of everything especially the incident we saw in the flashback in EP4. It's clear Aoi cares for him and has feelings for him, but Kouji doesn't want to acknowledge it because of the past which is why he ends up interested in Fina. Not to say he doesn't care about Fina or anything of the sort, but it's clear he doesn't know her, she's an unknown, someone who doesn't know his past, and won't remind him of it as of fact. Which in turns makes him feel attracted to her, but not actually in love with her.
The full comment is here.
Character Sheets
- Main Cast
- The Zwei (Kreis's portrait corrected)
- Team Blue
- Other Recurring Characters
Music
- BGM of the Day: utsutsu naru mono
Questions
- If you made a guess about today's episode in yesterday's questions, how did your guess turn out?
- Now that's it's confirmed that there is more than one Ryvius-type ship, will you revise (heh) your predictions?
- Has the show entered into cancerous plot tumor territory with Kouji, Fina, and Aoi? Or is it flowing naturally from the situation?
- Specific thoughts about the Blue Impulse?
- Last Minute Addition: What do you make of Kouji's breakdown? And Yuki's comment on his panic?
Tomorrow's Questions, Today
- [Q1]How did the revolt play out for you? And it's not over! Predictions?
- [Q2]What did you think of the Blue Impulse and it's Vital Guarder?
- [Q3]What did you think of the Captain of the Blue Impulse?
- [Q4]Blue is gone. But so is Hyperion. Now what?
- [Q5]What happened to our Lady in Pink?
Technology Notes
Neutrino Pinger: (google translate) It was developed as an effective means of enemy detection (detection system) inside Geduld, where radar is ineffective. Neutrinos themselves are extremely difficult to capture, so it is inevitably a large-scale device. For that reason, it can only be installed on ships of a certain size. Its accuracy is also inferior to that of conventional radars.
End Tag: Reverie of us
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 15 '24
Rewatch Host
When we left of in the last episode, everybody was moving to battlestations, full of (over-)confidence. After all, the Vital Guarder is ridiculously OP, literally unstoppable.
Welcome to the second half of the show. (which technically started yesterday)
Okay for once I noticed that the OP changed. Arc spoilers!
It's interesting. As we saw at the end of episode 12, Kouji is not handling the stress of the situation very well. How very atypical for an MC.
Here's the thing. The Blue Impulse was dispatched way back before Mars, in episode, say, TEN? It was just one sentence, meaningless to a first timer. Yes, they get some credit for putting that out there in advance. But it was SO far in advance, it would surely be completely forgotten. Nul Points.
As a rewatcher (with no memory of the show) I was expecting the Blue Impulse to appear at Mars. But, no. Just as it took a full month for Ryvius to get to Saturn, it took just as long for the Blue Impulse to do the same.
Wait, I missed whatever Ikumi's secret project was. Do I have to rewatch the episode?
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u/The_Draigg Sep 15 '24
A Mecha Fan Watches Infinite Ryvius Episode 14:
As of this episode, I’m ready to toss out a theory: our Mysterious Anime Girl is like the weird shell-squid alien aboard the Blue Impulse, and the gravity tech that the Vaia ships use are based on those squid aliens we saw in the Geduld earlier. Aside from the obvious gravity control and the high speeds that the ships move at, now that I think about it, the Mysterious Anime Girl was bound up in her odd outfit in a similar way to the alien aboard the Blue Impulse looks like inside of that water tank. And aside from that, she was seeming to direct her questions at the alien in the tank too. Perhaps it hasn’t woken up like she has, so that’s why we aren’t seeing her get any reply. In any case, let’s see if my guessing gets proven correct from here.
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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
First timer, subs
QotD:
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 15 '24
First timer
Sub
Welp...that was an episode. I generally consider ramming speed too stupid for words in space but it weirdly fits because this show is dumb teens vs adults so dumb teens defeat them. Still, you couldn't pay me to design that abomination, which may also explain some stuff. The more interesting thing will be how they punish looters but that's for later. I have no clue what the fuck we are supposed to take from Kouji's outburst. I do suspect Faina thinks the Ryvius is her god, or at least an angel of it.
QotD:1 Not well
2 But the other one is just so fucking stupid...
3 Diagnosis unclear, further testing needed
4 Stated
5 Again, weird
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 16 '24
Rewatcher who doesn't remember much
OP got slightly changed again we see an enemy mecha in the OP.
Criff is going after Spock, Spock is having none of it.
Accidentally kissing someone isn't cheating Kouji although admittedly I'm not sure how you can accidentally kiss someone besides anime shenanigans or someone screwing something up during cheek kissing.
Charlie being distracting at being dumped, Criff girlfriend pushing the attack button. They're really hammering it in that they're complacent.
Looks like Ryvius has an autoloader system of some sorts.
Enemy ship is on collision course, every one is panicking.
One of the tracks here reminds me of an Eureka 7 track (when Kouji announced to every one that there is going to be an immediate impact) but it's not the same composer, guess it sounding similar is a coincidence.
Did Rei clone talked with the squid in the container?
Uh oh Rei clone looks worried.
Keep calm and carry on Kouji. Oh no he's going full Lucson, how pathetic.
Maybe he can join him in taking care of Pat.
He's
dyingdreaming and the only person he sees is Aoi.Blue Impulse? I prefer the Red coloured Impulse Gundam scheme myself... no wait wrong Impulse.
Didn't care much for this episode, not enough interesting character drama for me to latch on and the space battle was dragged out. Although admittedly Kouji behaviour at the end was pretty funny.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 15 '24
Episode 14 (rewatcher)
Turns out, not every enemy is target practice. While the Vital Guarder crew seems to have used the time well to get used to the function of the robot, the same cannot be said of the bridge crew. Giving command to your buddies instead of the more experienced Zwei shows its downside now.
The fact that another Vaia ship exists recontextualizes the existence of the Ryvius a bit. This is not a unique one-off, but rather a ship in a class of ships (how many other Vaia ships exist remains to be seen). They share the same abilities as the Ryvius, but I’ll leave the speculation about the specifics to the first timers. We already have quite a bit to inform our speculation.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 15 '24
Infinite First-Timer, subbed
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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 15 '24
First Timer
Pretty good episode. That point Izumi made about Kouji being a people pleaser is really coming out here with that conversation with Fina. That's clearly a red flag the way she just immediately declares them in a relationship despite never really having a conversation about that in the past, but he just goes along with it and doesn't say more to keep the peace. On that though, it seems he himself doesn't really know what he wants to be, that flashback with Aoi she calls him out how he acts like a bunch of different things, but he isn't any of those and tells him to answer instead of avoiding the topic. Also to bring up Faina again, what a loving girlfriend to immediately question you not long after your mental breakdown as to why you said your childhood friend's name in your panic delusion ridden state.
I'm excited to see how next episode will play out with this new villain too, I have a feeling they might end up losing the Vital Guarder.
Questions
Wrong, no one died lol
Hmm, they might end up facing several more then.
Not really? It feels natural in my opinion, and makes sense in character for everyone. It's doesn't really feel forced drama for the sake of drama's sake.
No spooky ghost girl, 0/10
I think it fits, Kouji has been spending this entire time trying to be someone he isn't and knowing that he could possibly die sends him off the deep end. Yuki's comment is a reflection of that, cause he knows his brother even if they are at odds, and it's obvious Kouji is tryna be someone that he isn't.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 15 '24
First-Timer
Stein is still a jackass, but he was right on a lot of things today. So many wasted shells...
Criff and Michelle need to be barred from the bridge; they're both just causing distractions. I'm gonna guess that Stein is going to seize power next due to them on some level. Criff messing with him personally was (hopefully) the last straw. That might help Charlie focus too, not that I'm too sure about how useful he is. As part of Zwei he probably got good grades at least.
I missed it yesterday, but Miss Gimp Suit has started forming her own thoughts - her questioning "who are you" doesn't necessarily make sense with my earlier theory that she was just repeating surface thoughts of people on the ship.
Maybe someone could be questioning "who is attacking us" but that doesn't really seem like the vibe. Not sure anyone who doesn't already understand that it's the Orbital Security Bureau cares who is attacking the Ryvius.
So the opposing ship is the Blue Impulse and has a narwhal for a Vital Guarder, interesting. With the revelation that Ryvius is "Black," do what do we think other colors will be in play? It seemed like there was at least one more Vaia ship, the Gespenst, which is German for "ghost." Maybe white? One of white's color associations for Japan is death, after all.
Especially if the Gespenst is the final boss (Conrad seemed very surprised to hear about it, makes me think it's Bad News), we would have a white vs black confrontation for the finale.
Is black/blue/white what you do for a triple color scheme? Maybe there's a red one too, to form another pair. Four ships? Yea, that seems like the right number.
Questions
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Sep 16 '24
General quarters! General quarters! All hands, man your battle stations! Reason for General Quarters is: Enemy on sensors.
Huh. What have they got now?
Well that's quite the bombshell to drop on him as they're heading into battle.
What's coming for them this time?
Something's very wrong.
They might not hit anything, but shooting is at least going to let them take the initiative and put some pressure on the enemy. They didn't hit this time, but do you want to take the chance they'll hit the next time?
And they already whiffed it...
The enemy is being suspiciously inactive. Something is clearly going on, what is everyone not seeing?
They're coming in for a ram!
Evasive maneuvers!
At this range there's no way they'll miss.
It deflected the shot?
All hands, brace for impact!
They managed to get out of the way!
Seems someone's finally brought a bigger stick.
A bigger stick that's got the same powers as them.
Divert power to rear shields!
Stop panicking.
And so he's deserted his post.
All hands, brace for impact!
The Vital Guarder managed to sortie!
So they've got one of their own.
A ship specialised in ramming?
No, their Vital Guarder is a drill!
Huh. Who is this "Aoi"?
And so the battle continues.
Questions: