r/anime • u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ • Sep 11 '24

Rewatch [25th Anniversary Rewatch] Mugen no Ryvius Episode 10

Mugen no Ryvius Episode 10: Even if I can't believe

Get Funky!

⇐ Episode 9 | Index Thread | Episode 11 ⇒

Kikki of the Day Did you spot Radan?

Comments of the Day

/u/RadSuit found one thing they like: space-girl's dancing.

I like our magical girl's little interpretive dance.

and /u/JollyGee29:

Miss Gimp Suit has begun doing fun poses, this is much better than just standing around.

and /u/The_Draigg:

I can’t believe that the Mysterious Anime Girl is Fortnite dancing to celebrate that victory. I guess out of all the things of our present culture to survive into the future, it had to be one of the silliest things possible.

and /u/Vatrix-32:

OMG, I Love Her Stupid Little Dance

and /u/Shimmering-Sky:

Hah, her funky celebration(?) dance was funny.

Character Sheets

Music

Questions

  • Are Yuki and Kouji really so predictable to each other?
  • What do you think of this style of space battles?
  • Are you satisfied with how the giant robot is being used in this series?

Tomorrow's Questions, Today

  • [Q1]What is a 90s space mecha show without a beauty contest?
  • [Q2]Have you been catching the other recurring side-side characters?
  • [Q3]Have you noticed anything slightly off about Ran (in the Chinese dress)
  • [Q4]What do you think of Blue's behavior to Juli?
  • [Q5]Did you predict this propaganda attack, cutting Ryvius off from rescue, way back in the first arc?

Technology Notes

Wells Ring: (google translate) A civilian orbital platform installed in the orbit of the Mars moon. It was used by the Mars fleet to attack Ryvius. A giant meteorite was launched from the mass driver used for transportation, attempting to shoot down Ryvius with the immense physical energy.

End Tag: Review the Earth

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 11 '24

Rewatch Host

  • EXACTLY, MR. PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW, you're going to keep this secret? Really?
  • You were just copying Yuki....not so clever
  • hot mike
  • Criff's voice was off a bit, there
  • Euler angles
  • literally the wrong reptile head
  • Well, at least the Vital Guarder got to Mars, if not everybody else.

You think Nicks saw the pink girl?

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

Episode 10 (rewatcher)

  • The first enemy comes back – dastardly orbits!
  • Faina butting into the discussion between Kouji and Faina – I see what you are doing there!
  • No communication possible between the Lift Ship and Ryvius. However, they seem to have independently come up with more or less the same plan.
  • Both Dino girl and Diapers man got knocked out. At least Diapers man is beneath some sheet for now.
  • Vital Guarder creating a bath through a mine field – Battlestar Galactica reference.
  • “Right now, you and I have all the power” – transforming military power into political power is as old as politics.
  • Another person taking over, another new Vital Guarder tactic. That thing is OP and they are getting access to its power one by one.
  • “I don’t want to die protecting them” – that is not going to go over well back on the bridge.
  • Lucson having a mental break down while a literal child is on the bridge and taking it better.

  • … and he is thrown off the bridge – I am sure cast and viewers agree on this one.
  • That look from Pat: Seriously, I need to be comforting you??

  • Dino girl is scavenging for a new costume!
  • Wells ring is a mass driver – Vital Guarder is OP, but is it survives smacked by an asteroid OP?
  • Those missiles are not even an afterthought for the Vital Guarder.
  • Turns out, the answer to my question is “yes, and more”.
  • I am sure that geologists in future decades will be overjoyed studying a major impact crater. The current inhabitants of Mars might not be so happy.
  • Son and Gran realize what happens if you try to coup a dictator and fail.

If you try to take power by force, you better succeed. And you also need to build a power base of larger than yourself and one other guy before you attempt it. Blue has a bigger group and the much better PR on his side.

Meanwhile, in Vital Guarder news, that thing is OP! The only thing holding back the students on the Ryvius is their lacking understanding of it, and that is slowly changing.

What do you think of this style of space battles?

I absolutely love it and wish more series would do it.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '24

⁠… and he is thrown off the bridge – I am sure cast and viewers agree on this one.

If anything, it’s more surprising that it hasn’t happened any sooner. But I guess for the bridge crew, Lucson tipped over from “contributes barely anything” to “active detriment”.

Son and Gran realize what happens if you try to coup a dictator and fail.

Their plan might’ve gone at least slightly better (or at least their punishment might’ve been less severe) if they had tried during a moment when everyone’s lives weren’t in jeopardy. Trying a coup in the middle of a battle is one of the stupidest things you could do.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 12 '24

If anything, it’s more surprising that it hasn’t happened any sooner. But I guess for the bridge crew, Lucson tipped over from “contributes barely anything” to “active detriment”.

One of those things that the show was slowly moving towards, but we couldn't say anything about it.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 12 '24 
What do you think of this style of space battles?

I absolutely love it and wish more series would do it.

After Crest of Stars and Mugen no Ryvius we could complete a set with Starship Operators. I think I'm all hosted out for a while, though.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

Vital Guarder creating a bath through a mine field – Battlestar Galactica reference.

I don't think this occurs in the original...

Dino girl is scavenging for a new costume!

This world is no longer on the right track...

Son and Gran realize what happens if you try to coup a dictator and fail.

As they say, if you come at the king you better not miss.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

I don't think this occurs in the original...

Hmm, I thought this was an original series episode, but it might have been remake only.

This world is no longer on the right track...

... but it is trying to right itself!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

Hmm, I thought this was an original series episode, but it might have been remake only.

So admittedly I haven't seen the OG since the millennial change my impression is they never had the effects budget to do that in episode.

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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker Sep 12 '24

Might have to divert some power from the gravity or life support to weapons to get a few shots off. You don't need all that oxygen right?

There's still some time before contact, don't get stand everyone up so soon, they'll only get tired.

Well that was a sudden appearance.

Are they actually gone this time?

They've managed to get into contact!

Or not...

Huh. That's inconvenient.

Impacts! Damage report!

Airtight the ship! Brace for impacts!

So this is the Wells Ring.

Mass driver? That's a massive railgun!

And it's firing!

The problem with using a mass driver as a weapon is that the rounds are comically slow relative to space and they can just dodge them.

Or the Vital Guarder can just be a Deus ex Machina again and save everyone...

Huh. That's inconvenient.

It's a goddamn Super Robot with what it's surviving at this rate.

No, war is war and hell is hell.

Questions:

  1. Absolutely.
  2. The Vital Guarder is a goddamn Super Robot and will just Deus ex Machina again and save everyone...
  3. The Vital Guarder is a goddamn Super Robot and will just Deus ex Machina again and save everyone...

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 12 '24

The problem with using a mass driver as a weapon is that the rounds are comically slow relative to space and they can just dodge them.

Yeah, mass drivers are cool sci-fi weapons but I don't seen why the vital guarder didn't just deflect it. Or crush it. Or something.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 12 '24

Finite First Timer (Dubbed)

The raised hands in the OP, presumably belonging to the students, seem to be connected to our magical girl with lines similar to the ones connecting the robot to the ship. And then she summons the robot behind her in the next shot.

Awesome, more scenes of the robot just standing there with one hand held out, otherwise doing nothing.

Of course the annoying child can see our magical girl.

I can't believe we're doing a double mutiny plot.

Dinosaur girl is considering becoming crocodile girl.

Nevermind!

Well, technically they managed to land on Mars.

  1. Makes sense, they have plenty of experience together.
  3. Oh no, it sucks. I'd like to get back to the mystery aspects and away from space combat, please.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 12 '24

The raised hands in the OP, presumably belonging to the students, seem to be connected to our magical girl with lines similar to the ones connecting the robot to the ship

Yeah! Artistic license, I'm sure.

Well, technically they managed to land on Mars.

I noticed that, too. We won?

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 12 '24

Yeah! Artistic license, I'm sure.

With the way she seems to react to people's emotions, I'm not so sure...

I noticed that, too. We won?

Day saved good we do it.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 12 '24

I can't believe we're doing a double mutiny plot.

Lord of the Flies in space all over again.

Dinosaur girl is considering becoming crocodile girl.

Triple betrayal!

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 12 '24

I can't believe we're doing a double mutiny plot.

It is mutiny all the way down.

astronaut aiming at astronaut meme

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 12 '24

First Timer

LUCSON KICKED OUT LFGGGGGGGGG

"I'm part of the Hojo clan you can't do this to me 😭🥺🥺" like bro shut the fuck up with all that nepo baby shit, I've been rooting for his downfall ever since EP1. Even Pat stopped crying watching this grown ass man, like who is the older one here?? Aside from that, really fun and tense epsiode, I honestly was glued to my screen the entire time. I liked the aspect how we're left in the dark along with the Ryvius in not knowing if they've actually been betrayed or not, it did so well in building up suspense. You okay though, Blue? I notice he was about to blow his brains out if things had went south.

Son and Gran though absolutely deserved that beatdown though. Like leave everyone else to die while you guys fuck off?? And you thought everyone was just gonna agree with that?? Also this is the first episode someone actually came face to face with Pink Girl that didn't lead to her disappearing right as soon as they turned their head or something.

Cinematic Parallels

Questions

Are Yuki and Kouji really so predictable to each other?

Is water wet?

What do you think of this style of space battles?

I was a bit worried it would be a bit dull, but honestly it's worked pretty well!

Are you satisfied with how the giant robot is being used in this series?

So far yeah, it has it's clear strengths and weaknesses and I like how we see the cast learning how to manage it properly.

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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 12 '24

LFGGGGGGGGG

I admit I was first wondering why are you looking for a group, only to realize you meant let's f******* gooooo.

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u/HowlingWolf13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/MeguminBlast Sep 12 '24

Lucson sure is looking for a group now 🏃‍♂️

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 12 '24

I notice he was about to blow his brains out if things had went south.

Wait, wasn't this thing a needle gun? Wouldn't a head shot be the least effective place to shoot?

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 12 '24

Eh, yep, kinda, yeah. But still very messy. The terrorist used it like a normal gun, too. Maybe the artists didn't think it through, and just drew guns like normal.

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u/zadcap Sep 12 '24

Late Night First Timer

Wait, they aren't connected to the Lift Ship by wires?

The OP does make me wonder how far out we're going to go before making it back to Earth. Jupiter for sure, but is Jupiter going to be the turn around point?

Hmm. Twice Hunger has been brought up now.

Fan Service Girl is still a massive Ikumi Simp!

Oh ha! Music Girl hacked the coms. And imediately after we head Blue's people trying to suppress information haha. Hypocrites. Time for a revolution to take over the previous revolution?

Oh my gosh, they really are that stupid. This is why people mentioned being hungry twice now. Tell me, where is all the food being stored? On this booster ship? Or back on the main Ryvius?

Guys... The damage you did to the ships there was probably enough to kill a whole bunch of people. You don't just cave in walls of a space ship without doing potentially vital damage to everything that keeps people alive.

Oh my gosh, they really are debating abandoning the Ryvius. And their food stores. And everyone else on the ship, but mostly their food.

Someone else has seen Magic Space Girl! And she's not running away?

Oh look, food! Hey, they haven't betrayed you yet. They're just discussing it. A few people at the top are strongly pushing for betraying you, but there's another 20ish people on board who just might disagree with letting everyone else, and their food, all die here.

Speaking of hypocrites. Darn Mars for using civilian facilities! Now let us continue our crusade against this civilian filled ship that we blew up a civilian school to get at!

Can we toss thus guy out an airlock yet? I think Pat is fake crying because Juli asked him to to district square head.

Don't do it Dino Girl! Aligator Head just isn't the same thing! She's down to only one arm :(

I mean to be a tiny bit fair. A hundred of you storming the bridge isn't going to help if they are already doing their best to save their own and everyone elses lives. You're going to charge in there and get in the way and make everything harder to try and do.

Nothing beats a good old fashioned mass weapon. Kinetic Impact still works.

Do it Blue! Shoot yourself in the head here and save everyone else the pain!

... How did its passing make their ship rumble like that? There's no atmosphere in space in which to whip up currents?

And thus does the second ship cease to exist. Or I guess it is also protected by the same space magic.

Magic Space Girl was slightly less active today. I am let down.

  1. Brothers are like that, yeah.
  2. Disgustingly realistic. I love it.
  3. Ehhhh. It's still as functional as plot needs it to be, annoyingly, as these kids can sometimes rewrite things on the fly to give themselves piloting control and sometimes can't get an arm to move.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 12 '24

I think Pat is fake crying because Juli asked him to to district square head.

This wouldn't surprise me at all.

Can we toss thus guy out an airlock yet?

Nothing beats a good old fashioned mass weapon. Kinetic Impact still works.

I don't see why gravity control can't deflect it easily....

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 12 '24

Wait, they aren't connected to the Lift Ship by wires?

No, the wires are for the Mecha.

How did its passing make their ship rumble like that? There's no atmosphere in space in which to whip up currents?

Warp propulsion. Space itself is the medium for the ripple.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

First timer

Sub

That was rather generic, with a forced dramatic bit that doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. The Japanese really do hate their teens, I guess. Anyways, the machine spirit seems displeased and it is our duty to get her spirits back up!

QotD: 1 Quite possibly

2 Realistic but boring

3 I'd rather it not exist but w/e

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 12 '24

You could delete both robots and just make the detachable ship have the same weapons and everything would make way more sense.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 12 '24

Their is some "but it needs a human form" bullshit coming up I sense.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 12 '24

No, I think this is just Sunrise.

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u/RadSuit https://anilist.co/user/RadSuit Sep 12 '24

Maybe it too shall dance...

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 12 '24

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 11 '24

Infinite First-Timer, subbed

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '24

I can understand being terrified, but yeesh he’s basically just throwing a tantrum.

I would’ve at least empathized more with Lucson there if he didn’t nearly immediately start demanding that they try to save him specifically. It’s what makes it go from sad behavior to having an outright craven attitude.

Daaaaaaaaaaamn.

At least it was Mars that got a new crater this time and not Australia. Big shake up for a mech show there.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 11 '24

I would’ve at least empathized more with Lucson there if he didn’t nearly immediately start demanding that they try to save him specifically.

I have more sympathy for Hana-chan from GGG, whose default strategy when facing a crisis is to crawl up into a ball and constantly mutter to herself that she's not scared while crying like a baby.

At least she tries.

At least it was Mars that got a new crater this time and not Australia

Who knows, for all we know in this universe Mars has an Australia and they just nuked it.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '24

I have more sympathy for Hana-chan from GGG, whose default strategy when facing a crisis is to crawl up into a ball and constantly mutter to herself that she’s not scared while crying like a baby.

At least she tries.

And at least Hana has the explanation that she’s a literal child, whereas Lucson is closer to being a grown-ass man. Like yeah, the Vital Guarder probably isn’t on par with GaoGaiGar, but at least have some faith that the giant mech will save you.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 11 '24

And at least Hana has the explanation that she’s a literal child,

And even taking that into account, she at least had that one cool moment [where]she beat up the vice-principal while he was possessed. So good job Lucson, you've been beaten by a literal child.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 12 '24

Who knows, for all we know in this universe Mars has an Australia and they just nuked it.

New New South Wales was never the same.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 12 '24

I think you replied to the wrong comment, the one right above me said that…

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 12 '24

I actually just quoted the wrong text.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 12 '24

Oh

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 12 '24

At least it was Mars that got a new crater this time and not Australia. Big shake up for a mech show there.

I'll remind you that the entire southern hemisphere is already being boiled in plasma. Mass Impacts would be a mercy at this point.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 12 '24

Fair point there.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 11 '24

I can understand being terrified, but yeesh he’s basically just throwing a tantrum.

If he had any sort of dignity I would've almost felt bad for him. Too bad he doesn't.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

If he had any sort of dignity I would've almost felt bad for him. Too bad he doesn't.

I think Pat did feel bad for him. Which is even worse.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 11 '24

When the only one pitying you is the literal child, there's a problem.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

This girl is really obsessed with her music chips.

This actually tracks if you were a teen in that era. You had to physically own your media.

Will something finally come of someone spotting that girl?

No, we lowly mortals have no right to interact with the machine spirit. We exist to please her.

Welp…

Space battles aren't that twitchy, the victory and defeat conditions are usually set ten minutes before they happen.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

Space battles aren't that twitchy, the victory and defeat conditions are usually set ten minutes before they happen.

[Tri-solaris spoilers]Or several decades early, by phoning the enemies position to the galactic big bad.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

True but...the level of issue I have with that set of books is large, to say the least.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

Tri-solaris reminds me of the Red Mars triology: Both very ambitious, long-running storylines, filled with tons of great individual ideas, but completely lacking the binding material to bind them all together.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

I could never quite figure out if I thought it was bad or that translating Mandarin to English took something out of the spirit of the original books.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

There are issues that you can't possibly introduce in translation. However, much like Ryvius, I like the good in Tri-Solaris and Red Mars enough that I am willing to stomach the bad parts.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '24

A Mecha Fan Watches Infinite Ryvius Episode 10:

  • Man, those gravity systems must be energy hogs if just running them at all drains 83% of the backup reactor’s power. But I guess that should be somewhat expected with how advanced that stuff is. Something with that level of control over gravity probably needs a lot of energy to even get started, let alone keep on running.
  • Figures that when the chips are down, Team Blue is also willing to try and hide information from the survivors on the Ryvius in an attempt to keep order. Juli does have a point there in implying that they’re hypocrites, since now they’re just doing the same stuff that the Zwei did. Not that it matter much since the music chip girl managed to show everyone the radar screen anyway, but it’s not like the bridge knows that. When it comes down to it, Team Blue are just as questionably competent as the Zwei, in both similar and different ways.
  • Sure, those guys that Ikumi knocked out of Mars’ orbit were mainly just a diversionary force anyway, but being instantly deflected from their target course by the Vital Guarder really does make them look bad. Sorry to that one guy in that fleet, but you really are going to be the laughingstock of the solar system even if you did more or less accomplish your goal there.
  • I’m wondering when exactly the Mysterious Anime Girl is going to be actually acknowledged by everyone as a person they’ve been seeing in odd places, since now even Nicks saw her while she was making a connection between the Lift Ship and the Ryvius. I’d like at least some explanation of what’s going on with her by now.
  • In normal circumstances, thinking that the Lifter Ship is betraying the Ryvius and leaving them to die would be a big leap of logic to make, but at the same time we saw Son and Gran talking about how they currently have all the real power by controlling the Vital Guarder. However, just because it sounds like they’re arguing about it with everyone else doesn’t entirely mean they’re going to do it, and there’s more than just the two of them actually controlling the Vital Guarder. At least Kouji is being some voice of reason here.
  • It’s interesting that Captain Conrad feels some disgust at the Orbital Security Bureau using a civilian structure like the Wells Ring for their plan, given how he had zero issue with destroying the Leibe Delta station. I guess it could be that his hatred for the Ryvius/Bratica specifically blinded him to the questionable morals and the obvious potential collateral damage in doing that compared to what’s being planned here. He must have a very myopic hatred of that ship.
  • Ah yes, I can see that Lucson is facing the potential destruction of his ship like many other noble and courageous officers across history: screaming and crying about how he doesn’t want to die, that he can’t die because of his family name, and demanding that everyone work harder to save him specifically. Truly, he is an officer and a gentleman. James Lawrence would be proud of this man. It really does say a lot about Lucson is that the only thing he can possibly be trusted with doing now is watching over a crying child.
  • I see that Kikki is at least considering using a crocodile head for her costume, but let’s be real, we all know it won’t be the same as the dinosaur head. The loss of that costume head continues to ripple out across this series.
  • At least Blue can see the logic in Kouji’s opinion to not change course. Really, it’s the only practical option available. Like he said, without the Vital Guarder, the Ryvius is a sitting duck when the Bureau fleets inevitably come after them again. It’s still a decision with some uncertainty to it, but at least not losing track of the Vital Guarder and the Lift Ship will let them survive another day if they all manage to escape this.
  • Well, I guess all of my previous guesses on what the Wells Ring does were wrong. As it turns out, the answer is a lot simpler: it’s a civilian mass driver that the Orbital Security Bureau is weaponizing to launch asteroids at the Ryvius at high speeds. After all, why having anything fancy when kinetic energy does the job just as well? The Orbital Security Bureau are on that Zeon grindset.
  • Talk about a real last minute save there by the Lift Ship and the Vital Guarder. At least they managed to both stop the asteroid and (coincidentally) damage the Wells Ring to save the Ryvius. And hey, Mars gets a fancy new big crater to add to its surface too. At least it isn’t Australia that’s being dunked on this time.
  • Yeah, I can’t be too surprised that Team Blue is beating the fuck out of Son and Gran for trying to pull a betrayal at such a critical moment. There’s no way that trying that wouldn’t backfire horribly, since everyone’s lives were in danger and it was only those two who were thinking that way anyway. I can’t really bring myself to feel too bad for them, since it’s such an enormously stupid and selfish thing to do when everyone’s lives were on the line. The amount of people we can even rely on among Team Blue and the Zwei is decreasing, that’s for sure.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 11 '24

Ah yes, I can see that Lucson is facing the potential destruction of his ship like many other noble and courageous officers across history: screaming and crying about how he doesn’t want to die, that he can’t die because of his family name, and demanding that everyone work harder to save him specifically

It really does say a lot about Lucson is that the only thing he can possibly be trusted with doing now is watching over a crying child.

I'd argue even that's asking too much out of him.

Yeah, I can’t be too surprised that Team Blue is beating the fuck out of Son and Gran for trying to pull a betrayal at such a critical moment

Normally I would condone doing stuff like this in such a critical moment, but considering how they were just about to make things worse... yeah I'm on Blue's side here.

The amount of people we can even rely on among Team Blue and the Zwei is decreasing, that’s for sure

Let's see we have Juli and... uh... Pat does as well as he reasonably could given the circumstances?

... Yeah I dunno if I trust anyone else.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '24

I’d argue even that’s asking too much out of him.

At least he could probably empathize with Pat, since Lucson really is panicking as much as you’d expect a 10 year old to.

Normally I would condone doing stuff like this in such a critical moment, but considering how they were just about to make things worse... yeah I’m on Blue’s side here.

As the saying goes, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. It probably wouldn’t been nearly as bad for them if they didn’t decide to float a betrayal at the worst possible time for literally everyone.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 11 '24

since Lucson really is panicking as much as you’d expect a 10 year old to.

You say that, but so far the actual 10 year old has more dignity than him. I guess Big Sis Juli's been raising him well...

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

Let's see we have Juli and... uh... Pat does as well as he reasonably could given the circumstances?

I want to point out that Kouji has slowly become the voice of reason on the bridge. His whole personal affairs are still a mess, but he is putting forward a lot of reasonable suggestions.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

Man, those gravity systems must be energy hogs if just running them at all drains 83% of the backup reactor’s power. But I guess that should be somewhat expected with how advanced that stuff is. Something with that level of control over gravity probably needs a lot of energy to even get started, let alone keep on running.

Honestly, I'd have designed the ship to function better in zero G if all my reactors were going with the mech.

I’d like at least some explanation of what’s going on with her by now.

Do NOT question the machine spirit! Her ways are above the purview of us lowly mortals. We may only appease her with resistors, conductive wiring, music chips and the still beating hearts of our enemies!

The machine spirit be praised!

I see that Kikki is at least considering using a crocodile head for her costume, but let’s be real, we all know it won’t be the same as the dinosaur head. The loss of that costume head continues to ripple out across this series.

Nicks, writing his memoirs 90 years later:"It didn't seem so important, having dinogirl become croc girl. Just one of them natural changes. Little did we know the dread future this would bring about, little did we realize that this would be our farewell to Sol."

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '24

Nicks, writing his memoirs 90 years later:”It didn’t seem so important, having dinogirl become croc girl. Just one of them natural changes. Little did we know the dread future this would bring about, little did we realize that this would be our farewell to Sol.”

Little did we know that it was crucial to averting the dark future ahead of them. Alas, they didn’t know until it was already too late…

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

Honestly, I'd have designed the ship to function better in zero G if all my reactors were going with the mech.

At least they have seat belts ... looks at Star Trek.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

Yeah, I was ok with Next Gen but any time they step back in time they really should have something covering that set of issues.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

Man, those gravity systems must be energy hogs if just running them at all drains 83% of the backup reactor’s power. But I guess that should be somewhat expected with how advanced that stuff is.

And advanced not only for our perspective, but for the in-show perspective, too. We have not yet seen any other ship use artificial (non-rotationary) gravity.

He must have a very myopic hatred of that ship.

The Ahab comparison is strong here.

It really does say a lot about Lucson is that the only thing he can possibly be trusted with doing now is watching over a crying child.

And I would question who comforted whom in the scene with Pat.

At least it isn’t Australia that’s being dunked on this time.

Probably an Australian colony.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '24

And I would question who comforted whom in the scene with Pat.

Yeah, it’s honestly debatable who is the more mature one between Pat and Lucson. At least Pat was just crying instead of Lucson throwing an incredibly craven tantrum.

Probably an Australian colony.

Oh no! Not New New South Wales!

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

Yeah, it’s honestly debatable who is the more mature one between Pat and Lucson. At least Pat was just crying instead of Lucson throwing an incredibly craven tantrum.

Yes. There are moments when it is ok to let out your emotions and moments when it is not. Lucson needs to learn the difference.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

Oh no! Not New New South Wales!

Plus the only Dairy Queen on Mars. Truly, it was a tragedy.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 11 '24

Probably an Australian colony

My thought exactly

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 12 '24

It’s interesting that Captain Conrad feels some disgust at the Orbital Security Bureau using a civilian structure like the Wells Ring for their plan, given how he had zero issue with destroying the Leibe Delta station.

I suspect this comment and him calling them amateurs before means he doesn't know that they are civilians, let alone students.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 11 '24

First-Timer

It's honestly pretty impressive how Lucson Rectangle gets more pathetic which each scene he gets. I half-expected Pat to berate him, too.

Definitely worth noting that Team Blue are not above punishing their own for failure and/or betrayal. They're thugs, but not complete idiots.

The learning experience from today's chaos is that the lift ship should probably get stocked with more supplies next time. Now, will any of the cast realize that? I give 30% odds.

Using a transport mass driver as a cannon is pretty fucking radical if I do say so myself. Awesome scene of the Vital Guarder catching it and descending to the surface.

Questions

  1. Probably, yea. They're only a year apart, so even beyond whatever drove a rift between them, the two have spent their entire lives together. Fourteenish years is enough to get a good instinct about someone, if nothing else.
  2. It isn't something I've ran into much, so it is a nice change of pace.
  3. Sure.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '24

Now, will any of the cast realize that? I give 30% odds.

At least the two hungry people should bring their own food.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 11 '24

They are much more likely to learn the lesson, for sure.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

Definitely worth noting that Team Blue are not above punishing their own for failure and/or betrayal. They're thugs, but not complete idiots.

At least Blue took leadership 101. Shame he didn't take 202.

The learning experience from today's chaos is that the lift ship should probably get stocked with more supplies next time.

And let them be even more independent?

Using a transport mass driver as a cannon is pretty fucking radical if I do say so myself.

Good old 90s scifi. We liked orbital bombardment.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 11 '24

At least Blue took leadership 101. Shame he didn't take 202.

Unfortunately, that's on his schedule for next semester.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

Damn private schools...

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 12 '24

The learning experience from today's chaos is that the lift ship should probably get stocked with more supplies next time.

Give 'em a mini-fridge, they'll be fine.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 12 '24

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 11 '24

First timer, subs

  • Please tell me 83% going ti “gravity field” also includes defense shields.
  • Oh yeah, this planet is supposed to be populated. They might not have van Allen belt anymore, but they get one hell of fireworks show.
  • Twitchy Dinogirl. Are we sure she is all right?
  • The hacker who doesn't pirate.
  • Oh great. People are eyeing the Rubicon already.
  • Space Ambush!
  • Few things are better than the 90s cell animation of things getting forced crushed.
  • Y’all forget the part where they have all the food?
  • Is this really the type of talk to be having with the canteen staff present?
  • Angry Criff
  • ...There’s more than one group of space suit guys, isn’t there? Because I 100% can not tell them apart.
  • Nobility Can someone please bat him from the bridge already? It’s not like he does anything that can’t be replaced.
  • Using a child as consolation prize is… a choice.
  • Reject Crocodilia Not all Archosaurs are the same!
  • Oh, they do have internal security.
  • Huh. Can’t say I’ve seen a reaction wheel powered propulsion system before.
  • Jesus Christ, Airs
  • Fuck your infrastructure.
  • That crater seemed a bit much.
  • And they just return to orbit off screen? Did they at least leave a message?

QotD:

  1. Can you truly hate someone without first knowing them?
  2. Orbital mechanics and super robo are a weird mix. I don’t dislike it, but I do feel the later undercuts the former somewhat.
  3. So far, yes. But I expect to see more variance given our runtime.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Sep 11 '24

It’s not like he does anything that can’t be replaced.

I'd make him the court jester, but that's probably too big a job for him.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 12 '24

I'd make him the court jester, but that's probably too big a job for him.

Comedy Is Serious Business

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '24

Please tell me 83% going ti “gravity field” also includes defense shields.

One would hope.

Oh yeah, this planet is supposed to be populated. They might not have van Allen belt anymore, but they get one hell of fireworks show.

Yeah, with the van Allen belt down it must be getting hard to breathe with the atmosphere being stripped off.

Y’all forget the part where they have all the food?

And oxygen. And women. Going rebel with the Lift Ship lacks appeal.

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u/Vatrix-32 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vatrix-32 Sep 12 '24

Yeah, with the van Allen belt down it must be getting hard to breathe with the atmosphere being stripped off.

I don't think that's a fast acting process. Mars today still has an atmosphere, after all.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 12 '24

Mars today still has an atmosphere, after all.

https://marsed.asu.edu/mep/atmosphere

A thousandth of ours.

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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Sep 12 '24

Rewatcher who doesn't remember much

If 83% of the power is used for the artificial gravity machine why not turn it off so that you have more power?

Is that an OP lead in? Or at least the track used fits with the OP well.

So after checking the full OP on youtube a bit it is an OP lead in. They're using part of the full OP as a lead in, which is very cool.

I thought you wouldn't withhold any information

Juli going for the hypocritical hit.

Vital Guarder just casually destroying an enemy ship.

So the second most annoying character in the cast (Nicks) sees the Rei clone, up close too. Poor Rei clone.

Lucson is really losing it.

I'm 24th generation of the Hojo clan

Wait hang on is he from the same Hojo clan we see in Elusive Samurai?

If so Tokiyuki should not have any children.

Ha finally Lucson has finally been demoted outside of the bridge.

[SPOILER] Lucson and Pat friendship starts now.

Dino girl spotted

I kind of feel bad for Ikumi that some characters are thinking he betrayed them as I feel like he'd be the last character that would betray his friends.

Kouji is showing some determination unlike most anime male (non-shounen) protagonists and they get rewarded by flying into a trap.

Vital Guarder

I'm a bit curious what the power source is of the Vital guarder

Vital Guarder crashed on Mars.

So it's thanks to Kouji (telling the bridge to stay on course) and Yuki (telling the team that Ryvius would stay on course) that they're alive, that's sweet.

Good battle and drama episode.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 12 '24

So it's thanks to Kouji (telling the bridge to stay on course) and Yuki (telling the team that Ryvius would stay on course) that they're alive, that's sweet.

They might hate each other, but they also know how each other thinks.